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Quick question about root status and bootloader

Sorry about making a thread I just need quick ask something. I wasn't really looking for a new phone but I jumped on the Pixel deal for $10 a month from best buy. The fact that I can unlock the bootloader got me excited cause there's a lot of development for it.
I haven't received it yet but part of me wonders if I should go with the s7 instead. I like the build better I feel it's mor e durable and it's also waterproof/resistant which the Pixel is not.. I've never really gotten my S5 wet but it's scaring me..
So if I get an s7 and it has whatever the latest build is.. is it rootable as of now?? I'm guessing the bootloader is locked like ever other Verizon phone?? By the time the s5 bootloader was unlocked there weren't many devs left.
Thanks!!

Anyoneee

aholeinthewor1d said:
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If you get one now it'll have marshmallow on it and will be rootable using the engboot method. If you do so be sure to install the fixes and mods available here on xda. I would rather have a pixel personally.

Root method not really good. Bootloader is locked. Not worth rooting on this phone in my opinion. I had a lot of issues even after tweaking and following some guides. This was before the 2 roms were released though i haven't tried those out.
I'm on stock nougat beta also and i love it.
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Sorry about making a thread I just need quick ask something. I wasn't really looking for a new phone but I jumped on the Pixel deal for $10 a month from best buy. The fact that I can unlock the bootloader got me excited cause there's a lot of development for it.
I haven't received it yet but part of me wonders if I should go with the s7 instead. I like the build better I feel it's mor e durable and it's also waterproof/resistant which the Pixel is not.. I've never really gotten my S5 wet but it's scaring me..
So if I get an s7 and it has whatever the latest build is.. is it rootable as of now?? I'm guessing the bootloader is locked like ever other Verizon phone?? By the time the s5 bootloader was unlocked there weren't many devs left.
Thanks!!
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I love my S7. I've rooted and unrooted. Currently I've updated it to Nougat with the Update.zip. It's running beautifully!
But I got a Pixel for my wife, and I would trade mine for hers any day of the week.
I've never gotten a phone wet, so that wouldn't be a concern for me.

I had an S7 before getting my Pixel and unfortunately for me I NEED root. The S7 root method is FAR from perfect and it just affects the phones performance and battery life too much so I went with the Pixel instead where I can have root and an unlocked bootloader. The S7 by itself is a great phone, and if I didn't need root I would have kept it but if you are like me and want/need root then I'd keep the Pixel.

will the S2 Exynos (2015)edition get Nougat?

What do you think, will samsung limit Nougat on the S2 to the newer Snapdragon version of the tablet?

I dont think Samsung is going to have Nougat for S2. That will be in the Tab S3.

Yes, it's been reported that the T810 is testing and will be released soon.
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Yes, it's been reported that the T810 is testing and will be released soon.
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As long as we have it by Easter, I will be happy. Nougat is awesome on my OnePlus 3 and the split screen mode will be great on the Tab S2.

Now this is interesting.

wilson_smyth said:
What do you think, will samsung limit Nougat on the S2 to the newer Snapdragon version of the tablet
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The rumours about Nougat is getting louder:
https://www.sammobile.com/2016/12/19/galaxy-tab-s2-running-nougat-surfaces-on-gfxbench/

My galaxy tab s2 wifi only (t710) is still in 5.0.2 on sammobile but thanks to flashing, I was able to get MM. Now I am worried that my tab s2 will not get a proper nougat update because the update rolls out only to LTE versions.

According to this source (https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-begins-rollout-of-android-7-0-nougat) the "Galaxy Tab S2 (LTE unlock)" will be included in the Android 7.0 update rollout for Samsung devices this year. Seems legit, considering it's from Samsung themselves

I think the S2 will get Nougat. It's just a case of when and how good it will be?
However, I also think that will be it. Absolutely no chance at all of getting Android 8.

Given my experience with Samsung tablets, I'm not even clear T813 will see an update to 7.x.
That would be 2 in a row for me (poorly supported Samsung tablets), and probably my last purchase from them.

zim2dive said:
Given my experience with Samsung tablets, I'm not even clear T813 will see an update to 7.x.
That would be 2 in a row for me (poorly supported Samsung tablets), and probably my last purchase from them.
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Guys Tab S2 9.7 is getting Nougat soon!
According to many sources, Samsung has already made Nougat & is testing it now (nougat benchmarks seen on GFXBench).
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...t-spotted-on-gfxbench-update-nears-launch.htm

https://www.sammobile.com/2017/01/26/galaxy-tab-s2-nougat-update-gets-wi-fi-certification/
So you guys can knock the negative crap off....
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zim2dive said:
Given my experience with Samsung tablets, I'm not even clear T813 will see an update to 7.x.
That would be 2 in a row for me (poorly supported Samsung tablets), and probably my last purchase from them.
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The problem is, who else is making good spec Android tablets with Amoled screens? From my point of view, MM is running well and has been for the last 6 months. A Nougat upgrade would be nice, (especially for the multi window mode,) but I wouldn't loose any sleep if it wasn't updated. They do need to release a recent security update though.
As my experience with the One Plus 3 has been so good, I'd like to see them shake Samsung up by entering the tablet market. I know it wont happen but I can dream. :angel:

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The problem is, who else is making good spec Android tablets with Amoled screens? From my point of view, MM is running well and has been for the last 6 months. A Nougat upgrade would be nice, (especially for the multi window mode,) but I wouldn't loose any sleep if it wasn't updated. They do need to release a recent security update though.
As my experience with the One Plus 3 has been so good, I'd like to see them shake Samsung up by entering the tablet market. I know it wont happen but I can dream. :angel:
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It would be a great thing for the tablet market to have OP enter. (maybe not great for the OP bottom line, as the tablet market seems to be stagnant.. still I think there is room for a Nexus-like tablet.. and Google seems to have abandoned that niche)

zim2dive said:
It would be a great thing for the tablet market to have OP enter. (maybe not great for the OP bottom line, as the tablet market seems to be stagnant.. still I think there is room for a Nexus-like tablet.. and Google seems to have abandoned that niche)
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So it begs the question, what specs and how much would you be prepared to pay?
For me, take a OP3, put it in the tab S2 body and I'd happily pay £400 (~$450) all day long. Of course, it would have to be running OOS.

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So it begs the question, what specs and how much would you be prepared to pay?
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I bought a T813... hard to find a more expensive Android tablet
Coming from OP, I would expect it to cost less

Itchiee said:
https://www.sammobile.com/2017/01/26/galaxy-tab-s2-nougat-update-gets-wi-fi-certification/
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No mention of the 710

Masteryates said:
As long as we have it by Easter, I will be happy. Nougat is awesome on my OnePlus 3 and the split screen mode will be great on the Tab S2.
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isnt this tab has multitask already ? using 2 apps in the same time ?

zim2dive said:
I bought a T813... hard to find a more expensive Android tablet
Coming from OP, I would expect it to cost less
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Out of curiosity, how much did you have to give for it? I got my 32GB T813 as an impulse buy for $399 the other day, and while I've seen used ones for less, it felt like a decent deal for a new unit.

So confused - nexus 6p vs s7 edge exynos

Hello,
I am about to buy nexus 6p. The main reason is the pure android for app development.
There is also the s7 edge for 50 euros more in my country.
Considering google stops guaranteed updates on September 2017 for nexus devices, does the s7 opens the possibility for continous support by updates and custom roms, so i can keep on latest features and stuff ?
Really need some help here.
Thanks a lot

left13 said:
Hello,
I am about to buy nexus 6p. The main reason is the pure android for app development.
There is also the s7 edge for 50 euros more in my country.
Considering google stops guaranteed updates on September 2017 for nexus devices, does the s7 opens the possibility for continous support by updates and custom roms, so i can keep on latest features and stuff ?
Really need some help here.
Thanks a lot
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If you want original android and Google`s guaranteed Update then you should go for Pixel devices (obviously if money doesn`t matter). Though nexus 6P is an excellent device,and the Nexus 6P is the best Nexus ever made, but it`s bit old(2015),though it has also excellent XDA support.
But my vote goes to S7 Edge.It`s an awesome device with faster processors, a better camera and a bigger battery to boot and full of features and excellent XDA support.google may stops guaranteed updates for Nexus Devices in future, but I think it`s impossible for Samsung to do the same for S7/S7 edge.But you`ve to spend some extra (as you`ve already mentioned).
Go for S7 Edge and hope you`ll not be regretted.
Now it`s your choice.

Had 6p sold because poor performance and Zero battery, buy s7 edge it is better phone

I've had both! I prefer the S7 Edge, and it's what I'd recommend simply because it's much newer, the camera is better and well, even though you don't get the speedy updates from Google via the Nexus 6P, Samsung are pulling their fingers out of their butts and they're improving it!

The S7 Edge will have longer support, be faster, better battery life, batter camera, better screen, more ram................hmm which one to get

Supportwise wait for the S8 since once that is released the S7 will be in second row.

Micheal86 said:
If you want original android and Google`s guaranteed Update then you should go for Pixel devices
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yeah, I would love a pixel one, when it gets lower in price, maybe later.

I really don't see why you're "so confused". The very first thing that you say you want is "pure android", which isn't and never will be Samsung's goal or target market. And since that is your #1 priority, why would you consider a device that's 2+ years old?
I like my S7e. But you need a Pixel.?

B3311 said:
I really don't see why your "so confused". The very first thing that you say you want is "pure android", which isn't and never will be Samsung's goal or target market. And since that is your #1 priority, why would you consider a device that's 2+ years old?
I like my S7e. But you need a Pixel.
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Thanks for your response,
As I said in my first post 'is about google stopping updates' after september that's trouble me.
Sure, pure android is the way to go for me but i'm not gonna spend so much for a pixel atm.
As long s7 takes the nougat update or maybe even the next version that's ok with me.
Is there a chart or something for s7-s8 upcoming android versions/updates?

Go on Galaxy s7 edge.
is nice device and have alot custon rons and aplication.

left13 said:
i'm not gonna spend so much for a pixel atm.
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Not worth the money in my idea, too.
left13 said:
As long s7 takes the nougat update or maybe even the next version that's ok with me.
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Nougat is already on the way and the S7 will get Android O as well; just a question of time.
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Is there a chart or something for s7-s8 upcoming android versions/updates?
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No and if it would not be reliable at this time.
However, for Galaxy flagships you can always count on release version plus two more (S7 was released with M and will get N and O, S8 will be N with O and P).
Google itself says two years for its devices which is usually release plus one and probably one more for its devices.

andiling said:
Supportwise wait for the S8 since once that is released the S7 will be in second row.
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From what we know the S8 has the same camera and battery, smaller on the 8+ so it makes more sense to get the cheaper S7 Edge

But the S8 will have one year longer support and will be in the front row regarding updates once released.

andiling said:
But the S8 will have one year longer support and will be in the front row regarding updates once released.
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And, I've got the S7 Edge (G9350) now and still waiting for Android 7!

andiling said:
But the S8 will have one year longer support and will be in the front row regarding updates once released.
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I'm sure it will.
But what about its cost ?
range of 700-800 euros ?
Because i'm talking about 500 euros here, for the s7 edge exynos

Google Pixel: 2 years later

It's been 2 years since Google Pixel (XL) was released.
Unfortunately, this means no more major releases for these phones.
I hope the community would still be able to create some porting of next versions of Android, because the OG Pixel still rocks nowadays.
Too bad that a powerful phone like this one will only get security patches for only one year from now.

I still hope they give us 9.1

"No guaranteed Android version updates after" does not mean that there is no chance, if next Android versions don't require to much tinkering to be ported to the Pixel I think they will do it.

bafforosso said:
"No guaranteed Android version updates after" does not mean that there is no chance, if next Android versions don't require to much tinkering to be ported to the Pixel I think they will do it.
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I was thinking the same thing about "guaranteed." I found no compelling reason to move to Pixel 2. I still see nothing in Pixel 3 that makes me want to spend the money especially to guarantee bootloader unlock.

sliding_billy said:
I was thinking the same thing about "guaranteed." I found no compelling reason to move to Pixel 2. I still see nothing in Pixel 3 that makes me want to spend the money especially to guarantee bootloader unlock.
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I second that. Pixel is still kicking.

What's with the Treble thing? Do you think we could get future versions ported easily?

I purchased a Pixel second hand off eBay about 2 months ago, switch from a Samsung Galaxy S6 Active and I can say without a doubt. It out does the Galaxy without a problem. Though I miss the heartbeat monitor. It is sad to see that this powerful phone doesn't have any more Android version updates anymore but the community probably will be updating it more and more. My favorite thing about this phone I have to say is just the usability and ease or finding everything where it makes sense to find.

Keyword is "minimum" at the top. Google like Samsung and many other makers are only obligated to provide support for two years. That is all they are saying. Also, with Google having the Pixel /XL on Android P, do you really they will drop support with only a few makers with Pie? Other makers say only two year support. Most phone like this one has gotten two major Android os updates. Since this also is their first in house phone with full Google logo inside and out, I highly doubtful they will just drop support. Why even put out Android P on the pixel? They could stuck at 8.1 and not updated to P. They are keeping their phones out there viable. With most their testing of new OS on their in house phones, and it being HTC, which they now own half of, no way do I see them dropping support. Especially how close all three versions are. A few different drivers per phone, but highly used chipsets across the board. The Sailfish and Marlin still have more development than say Samsung flagships, lg flagships, and any other phones out there. Go look threw XDA. I got tired of waiting for root again on the s8 I sold that pos and got a pixel and pixel 2 xl. These phones are far from done. This pixel rooted on stock kernel still kills my old s8. Quad core vs octo core. Pixel quad smashes it.

S8rooted&tooted said:
Keyword is "minimum" at the top. Google like Samsung and many other makers are only obligated to provide support for two years. That is all they are saying. Also, with Google having the Pixel /XL on Android P, do you really they will drop support with only a few makers with Pie? Other makers say only two year support. Most phone like this one has gotten two major Android os updates. Since this also is their first in house phone with full Google logo inside and out, I highly doubtful they will just drop support. Why even put out Android P on the pixel? They could stuck at 8.1 and not updated to P. They are keeping their phones out there viable. With most their testing of new OS on their in house phones, and it being HTC, which they now own half of, no way do I see them dropping support. Especially how close all three versions are. A few different drivers per phone, but highly used chipsets across the board. The Sailfish and Marlin still have more development than say Samsung flagships, lg flagships, and any other phones out there. Go look threw XDA. I got tired of waiting for root again on the s8 I sold that pos and got a pixel and pixel 2 xl. These phones are far from done. This pixel rooted on stock kernel still kills my old s8. Quad core vs octo core. Pixel quad smashes it.
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You can always install a Custom Rom like Lineage OS to get the newest Android when Google stops updating the phone...

maddvector said:
You can always install a Custom Rom like Lineage OS to get the newest Android when Google stops updating the phone...
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Oh for sure. Lineageos rocks. Got that on old s5. Oreo on a s5. Unreal. A lot of extra features. Really got that phone for a house phone now and works great.

is possible that they will do the 'same' thing? I mean, they give new update to 'slow down' the old devices, so the current user will feel need to upgrade
even they do, we still have custom rom, which always want make our device running more fast, rite?

TENN3R said:
It's been 2 years since Google Pixel (XL) was released.
Unfortunately, this means no more major releases for these phones.
I hope the community would still be able to create some porting of next versions of Android, because the OG Pixel still rocks nowadays.
Too bad that a powerful phone like this one will only get security patches for only one year from now.
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Until we stop actually getting updates, I wouldn't worry about it. And we'll probably know before hand when that will be. Plus with Pixel 3 out we're going to get some of the software, whether Google wants us to have it or not. Night Shot with the Pixel 3 camera on my original Pixel.

November updates have been released, and..... no updates for sailfish and marlin.
Factory Images
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Booo!!:crying:

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November updates have been released, and..... no updates for sailfish and marlin
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Unfortunately I just saw it, I'm very disappointed, Google is slowly dropping support

Does anybody else had the image quality reduced on Google Photos?
Size on phone
Size stored on Google Photos

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Unfortunately I just saw it, I'm very disappointed, Google is slowly dropping support
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I doubt that. Probably an issue with the update for us.

Still rocking my OG pixel but tomorrow I am getting a battery replacement. Phone works great but watching the battery level is like watching the gas gauge on a race car... no desire to upgrade as everything else works great.

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November updates have been released, and..... no updates for sailfish and marlin.
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Booo!!:crying:
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TENN3R said:
Unfortunately I just saw it, I'm very disappointed, Google is slowly dropping support
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Until they announce they do drop sailfish Pixel, I won't worry.
Google confirms it's still working on the November update for 2016 Pixels

I have Nexus 5x with 4gigs of RAM as my second phone and it was officially updated up to 8.1. And also it is quite suitable for the pixel2 ROM port with almost all the features working without any problems. I don't see why Pixel 1 can be less capable to be updated in future at least two android versions up

This phone is amazing still now we have offical night shot I am do happy

We might get Android Q!

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2019/3/13/18264330/android-q-google-pixel-beta-update

We have Q beta.
Q beta is released for marlin/sailfish. The pixel 1 lives on:
https://developer.android.com/preview/download
flash it with fastboot.

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Not looking forward to this: Android Q - Magisk

Homeboy76 said:
Not looking forward to this: Android Q - Magisk
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Reading the comments to that tweet, I think it'll just take some time

Anonturtle said:
Reading the comments to that tweet, I think it'll just take some time
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Yup!

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Yup!
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Im really hoping we get q, not just cause the features but to hopefully keep this device going in an official way for a bit longer
Edit: looks like he already figured something out for the other devices minus the og xl
Edit 2: Q is now rootable on all devices minus the pixel 3 line

It would have been a surprise if the Original Pixel Didn't Get Q
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Im really hoping we get q, not just cause the features but to hopefully keep this device going in an official way for a bit longer
Edit: looks like he already figured something out for the other devices minus the og xl
Edit 2: Q is now rootable on all devices minus the pixel 3 line
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Thing is, it would have been a surprise if the Original Pixel (and XL) did not get Q.
Let's face facts - there are two - and only two - phone ODMs that have been keeping every phone of the past three device cycles current - not just with security updates, but with OS updates as well - Google and Apple. (That's it.) That is not merely why there is a used/refurbished Pixel market (my mom just pulled the trigger on a refurb Pixel XL), but why I pulled the trigger on my 3a last month. Pixel pricing - new or otherwise - is sane. (The 3a and 3a XL drive that point home with a sledgehammer - and especially in the US.) Unless you have a network-locked or network-specific model, you can take them to any carrier in North America. Lastly, Pixels are like utility infielders in baseball - they largely don't surprise.

I've had the beta version of q for a couple of months now. Just waiting for the official one to hopefully get rid of the few annoying bugs I have occasionally.
My phone is not rooted, completely stock. I don't care for doing that stuff anymore.

Curious - Exactly what bugs have you had?
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I've had the beta version of q for a couple of months now. Just waiting for the official one to hopefully get rid of the few annoying bugs I have occasionally.
My phone is not rooted, completely stock. I don't care for doing that stuff anymore.
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I'm running RC2 of Q on my sargo (also dead-stock); first time I've run dead-stock Android (on anything) since Ice Cream Sandwich on a Lenovo tablet.
The reason I'm over here in Pixel XL turf is for my mom (not me) - she's joining #teampixel and specifically has a Pixel XL (refurbished) enroute. When it arrives, she is taking it to the nearest Verizon store to have her settings/apps/etc. migrated from her old phone (Samsung J3) to the Big Pixel. She's used to running dead-stock (remember, Verizon customer); however, her J3 is running Nougat- how much of a learning curve will she have with Pie?

I think most of the learning curve would be from switching from Samsung UI to stock Android.
I went from OnePlus 5 (for 2 years straight) to a Samsung s8 after I killed the OnePlus in saltwater. I didn't hate the s8 but ended up selling the s8 for a pixel XL. For most people it's what they're used to.

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Android 10 release date confirmed: Here's when Google will release it to Pixel phones

Android 10 factory images have been posted for pixel XL

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Android 10 factory images have been posted for pixel XL
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Yeah, I don't know what to use for the global unlock version. Is it QP1A.190711.019? or is it QP1A.190711.020?

edwaine said:
Yeah, I don't know what to use for the global unlock version. Is it QP1A.190711.019? or is it QP1A.190711.020?
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I have the Verizon model,. I used QP1A.190711.020.
Everything seems to be running well.

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I have the Verizon model,. I used QP1A.190711.020.
Everything seems to be running well.
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Thanks for clearing that up, I was curious which one to use as well.
You were able to get rooted no problem?
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