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[Q] The best pay as you go in US

Hi everybody!
Looking for some advice from US members.
I'm gonna travel in US for almost a month: couple weeks at Hawaii and couple weeks for LA, SF and NY.
Could somebody suggest a best pay as you go plan for this trip not for calls but for unlimited data or something looks like unlimited. I got Nexus S 3G. And is there this roaming prices or it doesn't matter where you actually is in US?
PS: Surely I can look through all the networks websites but I just thought that locals should know this and the answer won't take much time.
Thanks!

T-Mobile USA offers a no-contract package for US$30 a month that gives you 100 minutes talk, unlimited (to the US) SMS and unlimited 3g data (speeds throttled to 2g after 5gb use).
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans
Nationwide coverage, roaming included. You might have to pay the activation fee (usually US$35) but that's about the only option in the US that is GSM, works with any unlocked phone, and offers what you're looking for.

Thanks a lot! That's what I needed
Cheers!

lol, you forgot about boost, $50 for unlimited everything with shrinkage to $35 i believe unless it changed, really don't remember

A2CKilla said:
lol, you forgot about boost, $50 for unlimited everything with shrinkage to $35 i believe unless it changed, really don't remember
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This won't work for a Nexus S though (Boost is CDMA I believe)... and the shrinkage wouldn't happen for a long time. I'm on the $30 a month T-Mobile one and it works great! Make sure you have the right radios for your phone to work on T-Mobile though. Also, the plan does come with 4G (at least if you consider HSPA+ 4G...). Otherwise, AT&T will give you 500 MB on prepaid for $25 a month and you can combine that with a few options for text and talk. The only problem with the T-Mobile deal is that it is online only (unless you get it at Walmart), so you will have to go a few days without service while you wait for your sim to arrive.

A2CKilla said:
lol, you forgot about boost, $50 for unlimited everything with shrinkage to $35 i believe unless it changed, really don't remember
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Shrinkage kicks in after how many months?
Antoxin said:
I'm gonna travel in US for almost a month: couple weeks at Hawaii and couple weeks for LA, SF and NY.
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He said about a month.
T-Mobile also has a unlimited $50 plan.
He also said he has his own phone. GSM. Won't work on the CDMA / iDEN network. CDMA phones just being locked.
Antoxin said:
I got Nexus S 3G.
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You weren't very helpful A2CKilla.

zigzackattack said:
This won't work for a Nexus S though (Boost is CDMA I believe)... and the shrinkage wouldn't happen for a long time. I'm on the $30 a month T-Mobile one and it works great! Make sure you have the right radios for your phone to work on T-Mobile though. Also, the plan does come with 4G (at least if you consider HSPA+ 4G...). Otherwise, AT&T will give you 500 MB on prepaid for $25 a month and you can combine that with a few options for text and talk. The only problem with the T-Mobile deal is that it is online only (unless you get it at Walmart), so you will have to go a few days without service while you wait for your sim to arrive.
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IS there some special radio required?
AT&T with 25$ for 500 Mb is not even close to T-Mobile's offer.
Probably I have to order sim few days prior arrival. Does Walmart always have these sim's in stock?
What I didn't get is how to buy this plan. There is no option to buy simcard with this plan. So do I have to buy just simcard without a plan than activate it and choose a plan? If so why I can't do it by buing sim at tmobile office?

There are Walmart stores all across the country. When you buy it there they'll give you the activated sim right there in store. US GSM carriers toss the sim in free when you buy the plan... part of the activation fee. And no special radios required. T-Mobile uses the international 3g bands. Its at&t that uses weird frequencies
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Andassaran said:
There are Walmart stores all across the country. When you buy it there they'll give you the activated sim right there in store. US GSM carriers toss the sim in free when you buy the plan... part of the activation fee
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Cool thanks!

I edited my last post right as you replied lol.
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Andassaran said:
I edited my last post right as you replied lol.
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Got it thanks!

Straight Talk BYOD!!!!!

Didn't know if this had been posted but ST just into'd new bring your own device plans! Now we can take our unlocked GSII's and use them on ATT network for $45 unlimited talk/text/web! Obviously this is not a big deal for those that live in Tmobiles 3g/4g footprint but it is for me since I don't.

I wonder if their data speeds are like simple mobile

SevenSe7enSeven said:
I wonder if their data speeds are like simple mobile
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What speeds are you getting with simple mobile? Here are some reported speeds from users on ST byod.--> http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1737642-Post-Your-Straight-Talk-Speedtests

Oh I'm not on simple mobile I just remember a thread about their 3g speeds being under 200kbps. Haven't heard much good or bad with straight talk

Is there data throttle caps?
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im switching to simple mobile this month, this month's TMO bill was 119.00 dollars, i say F to that when i can pay 60.

welcome to Simple! lol i keep trolling my presence wherever SIMple is talked about. sorry deah suh.

Yeah simple isn't bad I was getting good speeds I'm on T-Mobile prepay now just because I get to have a ringback tone
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Doesn't t-mobile have a 50 dollar unlimited everything for prepaid...?

tspx23 said:
Doesn't t-mobile have a 50 dollar unlimited everything for prepaid...?
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i think its unlimite talk and text and 200mb data
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Vinsane said:
Is there data throttle caps?
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Generally they begin capping around 2gigs. Not bad though for $45. Only reason this appeals to me is I can't get T-Mobile 3/4g service but I can get AT&T hspda service. As far as I know, this is the cheapest unlimited plan that runs on AT&T's network.

tspx23 said:
Doesn't t-mobile have a 50 dollar unlimited everything for prepaid...?
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It does, unlimited minutes and messages, 4G with speeds throttled after the first 2G - but it's only available as a family plan: 2 phones, 2 plans, 2 x $50 / mo.
Great if you've got a family member who's interested, and you both live in the t-m ob footprint.
The same plan's available BYOD for $60/mo, which is a lot more when you consider that the family plan includes phones.
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reocej said:
Didn't know if this had been posted but ST just into'd new bring your own device plans! Now we can take our unlocked GSII's and use them on ATT network for $45 unlimited talk/text/web! Obviously this is not a big deal for those that live in Tmobiles 3g/4g footprint but it is for me since I don't.
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I'm on the T-Mobile 'fringes', so, yeah, this is interesting.
I can use my T989 on ST? Is there an unlocker?
Got a link to the ST BYOD plan(s)?
Thanks!

Might be good add a back up

I used Simple Mobile's $40 per month plan and data speeds were horrible. It was so bad I switched to their $60 unlimited. Then this past weekend T-mo had that free phone giveaway thing for new customers, so I ended up signing up for the $60 plan for 2GB of data. Same price as Simple and I only really use about 2GB per month anyway, so it works well for me plus a free Galaxy S 2 is always cool with me.
The one thing about t-mo I really like is that if you call them there are a lot more options than what you see on the web. For example, I use Google Voice so I don't need SMS. That cuts $10 out of the bill right there, but you have to call to get them to take that out, can't do it via the web I don't think.

When is the Straight Talk SIM plan coming out?! Will they do 4G? God, I hope so, $45 bucks for all the **** they offer is a STEAL, especially if you use it with a smartphone... Unlike I am doing with GoPhone ATM

olm3ca said:
The one thing about t-mo I really like is that if you call them there are a lot more options than what you see on the web. For example, I use Google Voice so I don't need SMS. That cuts $10 out of the bill right there, but you have to call to get them to take that out, can't do it via the web I don't think.
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I hadn't realized there were call-only deals. I'll have to call them. No idea if they're flexible on their BYOD plans (I don't need SMS either)

funziebear said:
i think its unlimite talk and text and 200mb data
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the 200mb is 4g, but its unlimited internet access just slows to edge. but the $60 optioin is better, comes w/2gb of 4g speeds then edge. About $64.80 after taxes on monthly 4g plan.

thebigcheese44 said:
When is the Straight Talk SIM plan coming out?! Will they do 4G? God, I hope so, $45 bucks for all the **** they offer is a STEAL, especially if you use it with a smartphone... Unlike I am doing with GoPhone ATM
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Knowing AT&T, if you use Straight Talk, the data speeds are probably capped at 512kbps.

Didn't work for me. I cannot even use SMS with their unlimited $45 plan. Data is down as well. I'm on Straighttalk AT&T SIM card. Customer support reset the options on their side twice, but it didn't help. I tried two different phones with this SIM card to no avail.

texts should be working but for data, did you put in the new APNs? Data wont just work if you just insert the SIM card in since AT&T and ST have different APN's

TMOBILE vs SPRINT

Thinking of jumping ship to tmobile since 4G has never been offered in my area for Sprint. Also the pricing is a little better than Sprint? However outside of my area service is non-existent unless I force my phone into roaming? I like the data plan Sprint has but believe Sprint will change there data plan in the coming months. With that I will be grandfathered in until my contract ends. So if someone could tell me if they have trouble with data and signal or if it is great, or what they have to do get signal since tmobile is gsm instead of cdma?

mikerowes69 said:
Thinking of jumping ship to tmobile since 4G has never been offered in my area for Sprint. Also the pricing is a little better than Sprint? However outside of my area service is non-existent unless I force my phone into roaming? I like the data plan Sprint has but believe Sprint will change there data plan in the coming months. With that I will be grandfathered in until my contract ends. So if someone could tell me if they have trouble with data and signal or if it is great, or what they have to do get signal since tmobile is gsm instead of cdma?
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What?!?!
I'm not sure what you are asking. Not knowing where you are at, generally speaking if you have good sprint signal you would have good t-mobile signal. If you do not have good sprint signal, you may have just as poor t-mobile signal as their tower footprints are similar. If you live out from a city or something, AT&T or most especially Verizon have much larger footprints.

Do you mean they have a better price but for less services? Like not having unlimited texting or something? I thought Sprint had the best price.

Evo_Shift said:
Do you mean they have a better price but for less services? Like not having unlimited texting or something? I thought Sprint had the best price.
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I believe the pricing is very similar, but you get speed cut back on data once you go over the limit of your specific plan. Sprint data on thier network is not throttled or limited.

raptoro07 said:
What?!?!
I'm not sure what you are asking. Not knowing where you are at, generally speaking if you have good sprint signal you would have good t-mobile signal. If you do not have good sprint signal, you may have just as poor t-mobile signal as their tower footprints are similar. If you live out from a city or something, AT&T or most especially Verizon have much larger footprints.
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Sprint and Tmobile have very good signal in my area. However No 4G for Sprint, but 4G for Tmobile is here. Once you leave my city since I travel outside it for work alot the signal fades. I then use "ROAM Control" to force into to roam mode. I need to know is there a way to force Roaming on the Nexus S or any other phone on the TMobile network?
US Cellular is very good in the rural areas but it is CDMA and the pricing is quite a bit higher.

Well TMobile post paid plans are better, I think for 45 dollars you get, one hundred mins, unlimited texts, and five gbs of data
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I believe the pricing is very similar, but you get speed cut back on data once you go over the limit of your specific plan. Sprint data on thier network is not throttled or limited.
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Thanks for your info. It will not bother too much since I dont use over 2 GB a month.

BrianDigital said:
Well TMobile post paid plans are better, I think for 45 dollars you get, one hundred mins, unlimited texts, and five gbs of data
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T-Mobile pre paid is 30 dollars for this same plan. Just throwing that out there. That's what I'm using right now. Unlimited data but it gets throttled at 5gb
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tycruickshank said:
T-Mobile pre paid is 30 dollars for this same plan. Just throwing that out there. That's what I'm using right now. Unlimited data but it gets throttled at 5gb
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What are the limitations of your plan, and the cost outright for the phone?

tycruickshank said:
T-Mobile pre paid is 30 dollars for this same plan. Just throwing that out there. That's what I'm using right now. Unlimited data but it gets throttled at 5gb
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That's what I meant do you have any trouble getting phones to work, or is it as simple as popping the Sim in, I'm really thinking about jumping ship I'm getting sick of paying 80ISH dollars a month
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mikerowes69 said:
Sprint and Tmobile have very good signal in my area. However No 4G for Sprint, but 4G for Tmobile is here. Once you leave my city since I travel outside it for work alot the signal fades. I then use "ROAM Control" to force into to roam mode. I need to know is there a way to force Roaming on the Nexus S or any other phone on the TMobile network?
US Cellular is very good in the rural areas but it is CDMA and the pricing is quite a bit higher.
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Sprint is CDMA and T-Mobile is GSM, the phones are not interchangable on each other's network. You would have to get a GSM phone, and it would have to have T-Mobile specific frequencies for HSPDA+ (Their "4G" which is 1700mhz, different that AT&T's 1900mhz) in order to get 4G speeds.

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What are the limitations of your plan, and the cost outright for the phone?
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BrianDigital said:
That's what I meant do you have any trouble getting phones to work, or is it as simple as popping the Sim in, I'm really thinking about jumping ship I'm getting sick of paying 80ISH dollars a month
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I bought my phone (i9020T) used for around 200, but you can still find new ones around on the internet for I think around 400-500 USD maybe cheaper if you can find a good deal. The i9023 (the SLCD screen) is usually cheaper. I found some online for around 300 - 350 USD. Both the i9023 and the i9020T will work with 3G on T-Mobile's network. The data speeds I get are quite good as well. Some places I'll get as much as 5 megs down but the norm is usually around 3 to 4 for me. There are no limitation with the plan really that I can think of. I mean the only thing is that you only get 100 minutes but I've bought Groove IP (VOIP app in the Play Store) so essentially I have unlimited minutes now as well. Only paying $30 a month.
All you have to do is get a T-Mobile prepaid sim from the website and pop it in the phone and you're good to go.

I did exact as user above, $30 and then Groove IP. For my location T-Mobile is vastly faster, but you have to check your location coverage. In big cities Sprint can be fast. Since their phone is CDMA they don't use SIM so their phones goes for slighty lower value. You can get Sprint Nexus S cheaper than GSM version.
Check here for some prepaid plans: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21604722&postcount=2
I hope this doesn't seem like an ass move but, but I have a Nexus S t-mobile for sale.

I can't wait my etc goes down to a hundred in a month, I'm debating just going galaxy nexus or HTC one x, either one that's for sale at best buy and use that buy back plan which my girl didbwith her new iPhone 4s she's been guarenteed 400 bucks before six months, it almost worth it to be a phone whore
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I like the Pre-Paid Montly plans in T-Mobile.
$30 100 mins/UL SMS/ 5GB 4G data Walmart and online?
$30 1500 min-SMS /30Mb
$50 UL min/UL SMS/ UL Data(1st 100 mb at 4G)
$60 UL /UL /UL Data (1st 2GB 4G)
I use the $50, You can change every month to any of the plans.
Tip :If you buy the Card in Calling Mart $100 goes for $95 no tax charged.
So if you pick the $50 it would be like paying around 44+Tax in a post paid (Yes $44 for an unlimited everything).
About Signal, I don't have problems, ATT is a little better(3G+) but much more expensive.
Now I don't like Sprint or Verizon because I like the flexibility of having a GSM unlocked phone.

Will Nexus 4 be OK on Simple Mobile?

Sorry If has been asked, I searched and found no thread similar with the name.
But my T Mobile 2 year contract expires soon, and I was thinking of switching BACK over to Simple Mobile, Unlimited everything 50$ a month.
I am guessing there shouldn't be a problem since simple mobile use t mobiles network towers, but I just want to make sure. Thank You.

it will be fine, simple mobile runs on tmobile. Just do some research on howard forums on prepaid networks. Simple mobile is good if you have to do some international calls as they give u 5 bix a month credit for their unlimited plam.
However based on reports i have read, their unlimited is really about 2gigs. And sometimes they may even cut off data completely. With Straight talk you can choose between tmobile and att and they only throttle you.....

ijip said:
it will be fine, simple mobile runs on tmobile. Just do some research on howard forums on prepaid networks. Simple mobile is good if you have to do some international calls as they give u 5 bix a month credit for their unlimited plam.
However based on reports i have read, their unlimited is really about 2gigs. And sometimes they may even cut off data completely. With Straight talk you can choose between tmobile and att and they only throttle you.....
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So are you saying simple mobile's data on their $50 plan is only 2 gig? How about their $40 plan...im planning on getting that!!!!

sLiKK said:
So are you saying simple mobile's data on their $50 plan is only 2 gig? How about their $40 plan...im planning on getting that!!!!
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Actually, not he $50 SimpleMobile plan is not limited to 2gigs, its "Unlimited" - To what they define as "Unlimited" I can not say for certain.
They claim to be truly Unlimited; After speaking with their Customer Service, they stated they have not data cap. They will have ever Throttle your speeds (from 4G to 3G) if you violate their TOU/T&C (which you can find on their website; and states crap like do not run a server over their network [technically t-mobiles network] no pirating stuff, etc.. the usual stuff)
With the $40 plan, you are limited to 250mb of 4G, so why not spend the extra $10 and have "Unlimited"
My cousin uses Simple Mobile in Florida, he uses the hell out of it.. He turns his Nexus7 into a Hotspot and connects his laptop to it (while this is a violation of the T&C) and he has yet to be throttled or had service terminated... (the trick to the Hotspot/Tether is to mirror your laptops MAC to that of the device you have the data service through, so they don't notice 2 different device accessing the same data connection)
So you get the $50 Unlimited plan, you max out your usage, they throttle you, you wait until the next month to start fresh, or you Port your number to a new carrier and max out that internet.. No where in the US will you find truly Unlimited Data anymore (Sprint Lies!)

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No where in the US will you find truly Unlimited Data anymore (Sprint Lies!)
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Sprints definitely unlimited...I once used 30gb of their 4g wimax in a month tethering a dd-wrt router to my whole house while time warner was down. But that apartment seemed to be the only place in the city where 4g worked well. Everywhere else its 100kbps max 3g. Lots of places barely get 10kbps and have >1 sec ping. Really hope my nexus 4 gets here soon so I can kick sprint to the curb.
Also check your crappy local stores for simple mobile sims. I just bought one from a shady liquor store for less than the website.
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From personal experience the $40 plan is capped at 2gigs then throttled and $50 plan is capped at 5gigs then they cut it of completely so I switched to T-Mobile $30 100 minutes unlimited text and 5gigs of 4g data then I get throttled
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OK IMHO if you're considering simple mobile, which is a tracfone, I would recommend getting straight talk/telcel $45 or net10 $50 byop tmobile Sim instead (also tracfone). You can use telcel or net10 that can be bought on ebay for $1 interchanably. NOTE this is NOT the same when using the AT&T byop Sim.
At least they are sorta *unlimited... Simple mobile has these issues; 2gb high speed then throttled, 2gb cap, or instant throttle at 119Kbs from day one.
I am in Florida and I speak from experience, but this may have changed since tmobile themselves changed their $70 from 5gb to unlimited recently.
*I've seen a data screen cap or someone claiming having used 100gb without issues.
I also used T-Mobile/Walmart $30 plan but 100 min was not enough for me, even when using VoIP calling. I also hit the 5gb data limit.
Switched back to st but using tmo byop Sim this time. Got refills currently from $33-42/m no taxes but its not always the case.
YMMV

clockcycle said:
OK IMHO if you're considering simple mobile, which is a tracfone, I would recommend getting straight talk/telcel $45 or net10 $50 byop tmobile Sim instead (also tracfone). You can use telcel or net10 that can be bought on ebay for $1 interchanably. NOTE this is NOT the same when using the AT&T byop Sim.
At least they are sorta *unlimited... Simple mobile has these issues; 2gb high speed then throttled, 2gb cap, or instant throttle at 119Kbs from day one.
I am in Florida and I speak from experience, but this may have changed since tmkbile themselves changed their $70 from 5gb to unlimited.
*I've seen a data screen cap or someone claiming having used 100gb without issues.
YMMV
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If you can live with the data cap look into ptel. Their $40.00 unlimited plan is the same as simple mobile's. Your can order a sim and $40.00 pin and use the promo code "ptelslick20" and pay $20.00. The pins are good for a year so order 12 of these. I am switching when my 30 days expire with simple mobile

Simple Mobile raised their 50 dollar plan to 55 dollars after taxes and fees etc. Thinking about switching to Straight Talk.

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If you can live with the data cap look into ptel. Their $40.00 unlimited plan is the same as simple mobile's. Your can order a sim and $40.00 pin and use the promo code "ptelslick20" and pay $20.00. The pins are good for a year so order 12 of these. I am switching when my 30 days expire with simple mobile
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Nice find, thanks for sharing. I got some of the $99/90day refills for straight talk. But that might not be bad for mom or dad, anyone that doesn't use much but likes the choice..

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Nice find, thanks for sharing. I got some of the $99/90day refills for straight talk. But that might not be bad for mom or dad, anyone that doesn't use much but likes the choice..
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I order so many pins for my family and friends that they called me to make sure it wasn't a mistake

Simple Mobile Sim
I didn't want to create another thread but hoping someone can answer this since it's related to my Nexus 4 and Simple mobile.
I already am using Simple Mobile on my Gnex, but can I cut my sim that I am currently using and stick it in my N4? I am following these instructions: http://www.airportal.de/nanosim/
Any tips or tricks or warnings will be helpful.
Thanks in advance.

New Verizon Unlimited Plan

Anyone switch to the new verizon unlimited plan who is grandfather in the old unlimited plan? I see the difference in savings but is it worth it? Any fine print we are missing?
https://www.verizonwireless.com/plans/verizon-plan/#plan-details

rsalas187 said:
Anyone switch to the new verizon unlimited plan who is grandfather in the old unlimited plan? I see the difference in savings but is it worth it? Any fine print we are missing?
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I would say it's worth it if you use a lot of data and if it saves you money why not??

I don't know if they're planning on changing it but right now you'll lose your employee discount(s) per the CS rep I spoke to and his supervisor.
ETA I read the 1st post wrong, I don't know if you get discounts with the old UL plan. If not,disregard....

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I don't know if they're planning on changing it but right now you'll lose your employee discount(s) per the CS rep I spoke to and his supervisor.
ETA I read the 1st post wrong, I don't know if you get discounts with the old UL plan. If not,disregard....
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You are correct, Discounts will no longer happen on new plans.
Update***
I went by the my local verizon store and the new plan is 22gb shared for all lines and not 22gigs per line. You also get 10 gig for your hotpspot shared. #FinePrint #VerizonFail
If it was 22gigs per line I would switch today but to get that it would $100 per line.
One side note: Because I'm on the grandfathered plan, phone upgrades were never possible. The system now lets me do a payment plan on all phones. They tried this on a pixel XL in the system and everything went through with no issues.
Hope it helps!

rsalas187 said:
You are correct, Discounts will no longer happen on new plans.
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I went by the my local verizon store and the new plan is 22gb shared for all lines and not 22gigs per line. You also get 10 gig for your hotpspot shared. #FinePrint #VerizonFail
If it was 22gigs per line I would switch today but to get that it would $100 per line.
One side note: Because I'm on the grandfathered plan, phone upgrades were never possible. The system now lets me do a payment plan on all phones. They tried this on a pixel XL in the system and everything went through with no issues.
Hope it helps!
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The 22 gigs isn't a soft cap, they just might throttle you if the network is congested in your area. I don't see them doing it often though since they don't on legacy UDP users and AT&T says the same thing on their UDP (for DirecTV customers) and I've seen people on that plan use over 50GBs without throttling on that plan. Verizon usually mirrors AT&T plans/policies, which is why I think that's relevant.
I don't think Verizon reps are very reliable either, as I've asked different reps the same question several times before and got different answers on technical things like this before. I would ask another one or two more on the phone or in store and you'll see how useless they are.

rsalas187 said:
Anyone switch to the new verizon unlimited plan who is grandfather in the old unlimited plan? I see the difference in savings but is it worth it? Any fine print we are missing?
https://www.verizonwireless.com/plans/verizon-plan/#plan-details
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I have the exact same question!
I hate to make this move after struggling for years to keep grandfathered UDP. The only downside I see is that currently we wouldn't be throttled above 22 GB, but with the new plan, we could be. If that is the only downside (even after losing company discount), it is so worth it to save $50/month in my case.
I did ask Verizon and they said I'm not losing anything by making the switch, but I don't exactly trust them.
How can we determine for sure?

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I have the exact same question!
I hate to make this move after struggling for years to keep grandfathered UDP. The only downside I see is that currently we wouldn't be throttled above 22 GB, but with the new plan, we could be. If that is the only downside (even after losing company discount), it is so worth it to save $50/month in my case.
I did ask Verizon and they said I'm not losing anything by making the switch, but I don't exactly trust them.
How can we determine for sure?
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I switched the day it came out. I'm currently at 30GB for the month and haven't noticed any throttling yet, and I've been steaming a lot and watching quite a bit of YouTube. I've been running speed tests to check randomly. They said throttling or being prioritized on the network might happen to the top 3% I believe. It probably all depends on your location as far as any of the fine print goes. It's a leap of faith, but worth it in the long run I'd imagine unless you need peak speeds at all times. Which most people probably don't.

T-Mobile is still the best deal with the best price. $70 1 line, $100 for 2 lines full HD 1080p streaming (VZW is 720p) 10gb HotSpot 28gb before de-prioritization (VZW 22gb). It's the 2 line deal thats the no brainer.

Eric214 said:
T-Mobile is still the best deal with the best price. $70 1 line, $100 for 2 lines full HD 1080p streaming (VZW is 720p) 10gb HotSpot 28gb before de-prioritization (VZW 22gb). It's the 2 line deal thats the no brainer.
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Yeah as long as you live in a larger city where they actually have coverage. I get 110mbps download speeds at my house in the middle of nowhere with Verizon. T-Mobile barely has 3G and no building penetration back here. Pass.

JRJ442 said:
Yeah as long as you live in a larger city where they actually have coverage. I get 110mbps download speeds at my house in the middle of nowhere with Verizon. T-Mobile barely has 3G and no building penetration back here. Pass.
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Stupid question regarding building penetration - I live in Atlanta where the coverage is great except for my condo. If I was in the middle of the building, I'd expect crappy signal due to concrete structure, etc; however, with floor to ceiling windows and being very close to them, why would I still get crappy signal?
I've never pulled 110 mbps down - that is nice! What am I doing wrong?

JRJ442 said:
Yeah as long as you live in a larger city where they actually have coverage. I get 110mbps download speeds at my house in the middle of nowhere with Verizon. T-Mobile barely has 3G and no building penetration back here. Pass.
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Well I don't live in a big city. I live in a rural area 40 miles south of Philly and about 60 miles north of Baltimore. I get 80-90mbps . The thinking of T-Mobile having only coverage in big cities hasn't held true for well over a year or 2 now. Plus, I doubt you're truly in the middle of nowhere if you're getting 110mbps. That would mean you would have a cell tower on your property basically.

You get up to 22 gigs then it slows down. But if people in your area are not crowding the towers you should be good
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My question is: for anyone who tethers on the grandfathered unlimited data plan without paying extra because you have an unlocked nexus 6p, will verizon be able to detect the 10GB of tethering if you switch to the new Unlimited plan, even if you didn't buy your phone from verizon (ie no software to detect tethering to force you to pay more, as would happen on grandfathered unlimited data)?