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Every time I track down what is sucking my battery Google come up with a new way for Android to suck even more. I have sorted out various apps, location services, underclocking, etc. Now I find that when there is an update waiting the Play Store punishes me by sucking the juice out of the battery - even though I have it set to automatic updates and to give me notifications if there are updates waiting. No notifications and sometimes the waiting update doesn't even show up in My Apps, unless you switch to the Store Home and then back to My Apps. It might make a little bit of sense if these app updates were waiting for you to approve a change to the permissions but that isn't the case.
I have this problem on my Nexus 4 running rooted stock Android 4.4.4 AND on my waterproof Moto Defy+ running uprooted stock 2.3, so I'm guessing it is the Play Store which is junk. Does anybody know a solution to this? Please? I have tried searching for solutions but there are SO many battery/Android OS problems that I haven't been able to find the answer for this particular one.
I'm almost tempted to go for an iPhone - except that they are junk too. Maybe my next phone should be a Nokia 3310.
(BTW "junk" wasn't the word I originally used)
You're never going to get zero percent battery use, maybe your expectations are out of line?
How much screen on time do you out of a full charge? And what's your %/hour drop when the phone is sitting untouched?
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Every time I track down what is sucking my battery Google come up with a new way for Android to suck even more. I have sorted out various apps, location services, underclocking, etc. Now I find that when there is an update waiting the Play Store punishes me by sucking the juice out of the battery - even though I have it set to automatic updates and to give me notifications if there are updates waiting. No notifications and sometimes the waiting update doesn't even show up in My Apps, unless you switch to the Store Home and then back to My Apps. It might make a little bit of sense if these app updates were waiting for you to approve a change to the permissions but that isn't the case.
I have this problem on my Nexus 4 running rooted stock Android 4.4.4 AND on my waterproof Moto Defy+ running uprooted stock 2.3, so I'm guessing it is the Play Store which is junk. Does anybody know a solution to this? Please? I have tried searching for solutions but there are SO many battery/Android OS problems that I haven't been able to find the answer for this particular one.
I'm almost tempted to go for an iPhone - except that they are junk too. Maybe my next phone should be a Nokia 3310.
(BTW "junk" wasn't the word I originally used)
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google doesnt come up with a new way for android to suck more battery , YOU DO , note the keyword is YOU , now figure it out .
I was getting under 2% per hour drain then, without me making any changes, when updates came along and Android didn't tell me and Android decided to suck my battery it goes to something like 10% per hour
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I was getting under 2% per hour drain then, without me making any changes, when updates came along and Android didn't tell me and Android decided to suck my battery it goes to something like 10% per hour
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battery life is all dependent on YOUR personal usage, your personal setup, your personal decision to install whatever apps, and very much your phone/data signal. if your data/phone signal is only so so, then youyr battery life will only be so so. if you have things draining your battery besides for your signal and use, its up to you to figure out why. thye battery klife of my nexus 4 and nexus 5, actually, all androids that ive ever owned, has been wonderful. i get the same google apps updates as you, no less. so you have to figure it out.
OK, so as I said previously, with no changes made by Me I am finding that when app updates come along my Nexus doesn't alert me to the need to update but if I don't spot that an update is needed "Android OS" usage climbs and drains my battery until I look for an app update and update it. This is without loading any new apps and with the good signal I always have and all the things I normally have turned off (wifi, BT, location history, Google Now, etc) and slightly underclocked (1.2 GHz).
I'm sorry if criticising Android has offended people but I'm asking if anyone can help me solve yet another battery drain. Assuming that I'm doing something wrong isn't helping unless you can point me at what I'm doing wrong. All I am seeing is that I've sorted out all the known battery drains in my personal set up and yet updates, over which I have no apparent control, are causing another drain. I would like to hear from anyone who might be able to help and I apologise to anyone who is offended that I see an imperfection in the phone we have all chosen.
Thanks in anticipation.
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OK, so as I said previously, with no changes made by Me I am finding that when app updates come along my Nexus doesn't alert me to the need to update but if I don't spot that an update is needed "Android OS" usage climbs and drains my battery until I look for an app update and update it. This is without loading any new apps and with the good signal I always have and all the things I normally have turned off (wifi, BT, location history, Google Now, etc) and slightly underclocked (1.2 GHz).
I'm sorry if criticising Android has offended people but I'm asking if anyone can help me solve yet another battery drain. Assuming that I'm doing something wrong isn't helping unless you can point me at what I'm doing wrong. All I am seeing is that I've sorted out all the known battery drains in my personal set up and yet updates, over which I have no apparent control, are causing another drain. I would like to hear from anyone who might be able to help and I apologise to anyone who is offended that I see an imperfection in the phone we have all chosen.
Thanks in anticipation.
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You need to find out what's causing the battery drain. Get gsam or betterbatterystats. Without one of those you're just guessing.
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You need to find out what's causing the battery drain. Get gsam or betterbatterystats. Without one of those you're just guessing.
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App updates come along. Play Store is set to give notifications and to auto-update. Some app updates don't give notifications and "Android OS" causes a load of wakelocks until I spot that the update needs doing and do it manually. Same thing happens on my wife's stock Nexus 4. We are both in the Uk on Three network and have good signal.
I have BBS but I need to see what it says when I get this app update problem. I will post my findings when I get the info. If nobody here recognises this problem maybe I need to look at what is similar between our two Nexus 4s. I know we both have WhatsApp and, of course, all the Google apps, both on 4.4.4 but there the similarities end.
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Every time I track down what is sucking my battery Google come up with a new way for Android to suck even more. I have sorted out various apps, location services, underclocking, etc. Now I find that when there is an update waiting the Play Store punishes me by sucking the juice out of the battery - even though I have it set to automatic updates and to give me notifications if there are updates waiting. No notifications and sometimes the waiting update doesn't even show up in My Apps, unless you switch to the Store Home and then back to My Apps. It might make a little bit of sense if these app updates were waiting for you to approve a change to the permissions but that isn't the case.
I have this problem on my Nexus 4 running rooted stock Android 4.4.4 AND on my waterproof Moto Defy+ running uprooted stock 2.3, so I'm guessing it is the Play Store which is junk. Does anybody know a solution to this? Please? I have tried searching for solutions but there are SO many battery/Android OS problems that I haven't been able to find the answer for this particular one.
I'm almost tempted to go for an iPhone - except that they are junk too. Maybe my next phone should be a Nokia 3310.
(BTW "junk" wasn't the word I originally used)
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Why don't you try a ROM other than stock? I have flashed countless phones and tuned ROMs always offer better battery life. I don't understand why people go through all the effort of rooting then stick with stock ROMs. I know the general consensus is that the stock ROM (on the Nexus anyway) is one of the best, but let me tell you the general consensus is wrong. It is good, but there are much better custom ROMs.
Oh, and stock 2.3 on the Defy??? Come on man, why are you on XDA? This isn't the Carphone Warehouse helpdesk.
Try something barebones - no bloatware/small rom and choose barebones GAPPS. This will make a huge difference in battery life before you even dive in and stark tweaking further.
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Why don't you try a ROM other than stock? I have flashed countless phones and tuned ROMs always offer better battery life. I don't understand why people go through all the effort of rooting then stick with stock ROMs. I know the general consensus is that the stock ROM (on the Nexus anyway) is one of the best, but let me tell you the general consensus is wrong. It is good, but there are much better custom ROMs.
Oh, and stock 2.3 on the Defy??? Come on man, why are you on XDA? This isn't the Carphone Warehouse helpdesk.
Try something barebones - no bloatware/small rom and choose barebones GAPPS. This will make a huge difference in battery life before you even dive in and stark tweaking further.
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You're wrong. The rom will make very little difference. I constantly get far over 5 hours sot with stock rom and kernel. It's your signal quality and the apps you use and how you set then up that makes the difference
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Why don't you try a ROM other than stock? I have flashed countless phones and tuned ROMs always offer better battery life. I don't understand why people go through all the effort of rooting then stick with stock ROMs. I know the general consensus is that the stock ROM (on the Nexus anyway) is one of the best, but let me tell you the general consensus is wrong. It is good, but there are much better custom ROMs.
Oh, and stock 2.3 on the Defy??? Come on man, why are you on XDA? This isn't the Carphone Warehouse helpdesk.
Try something barebones - no bloatware/small rom and choose barebones GAPPS. This will make a huge difference in battery life before you even dive in and stark tweaking further.
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one more thing, you do not need root or to be rooted to run a custom rom or kernel. the only thing that root is need for is to change system files or to run root apps. but yea, you can get great battery life on stock.
I have been getting great battery life from the stock ROM after a few tweaks apart from this problem with updates. I have had a couple of other ROMs on this phone but went back to stock after the last couple of system updates. When I'm not having this particular battery drain then, if I leave the phone alone, I'm getting about 1%/hr battery drain. Also my wife doesn't want her Nexus "messed about with" and it helps if the two are fairly similar. Xposed is the big difference between the two.
The Defy+ is on 2.3 because I only use it when I'm out hiking and it might rain. The Defy is not easy to upgrade and 2.3 was where Android got good, so I'm OK with it, if that's all right with you.
BTW I have a degree in Electronics & Physics plus 17 years postgraduate experience in software engineering in the defence sector. So it's not that I'm not technical I just choose not to make a hobby out of keeping my phones working.
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BTW I have a degree in Electronics & Physics plus 17 years postgraduate experience in software engineering in the defence sector. So it's not that I'm not technical I just choose not to make a hobby out of keeping my phones working.
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That's nice
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jd1639 said:
You're wrong. The rom will make very little difference. I constantly get far over 5 hours sot with stock rom and kernel. It's your signal quality and the apps you use and how you set then up that makes the difference
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over 5hr sot with stock kernel and rom? impossible......do you even use any 3rd party app on your phone? i get tops 3,5h all stock with NO DATA at ALL, and i turn off sync/wifi when i dont use the phone, with a custom kernel i get close to 5h
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over 5hr sot with stock kernel and rom? impossible......do you even use any 3rd party app on your phone? i get tops 3,5h all stock with NO DATA at ALL, and i turn off sync/wifi when i dont use the phone, with a custom kernel i get close to 5h
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i see 5h sot nearly every day i use n4, so its not impossible. its a matter of your signal quality and usage. when im using LTE, i always se 5h sot. on hspa+, i see 4-4.5h sot. i have everything enabled and am a heavy user, plus have 96 apps installed. no facebook on any of my devices though. and i never ever disable data.
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You're wrong. The rom will make very little difference. I constantly get far over 5 hours sot with stock rom and kernel. It's your signal quality and the apps you use and how you set then up that makes the difference
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A stripped down ROM running only the bare minimum can greatly improve battery life! Just have a sift through some custom ROMs and you will find the ones that are tuned to do such a thing.
Also in reply to others here, the advantage of being rooted means you can remove unwanted system apps, underclock etc which if you're concerned about battery life would be quite important I would have thought.
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You need to find out what's causing the battery drain. Get gsam or betterbatterystats. Without one of those you're just guessing.
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This is what you need to do if you want to persist with the stock ROM. I personally have used betterbatterystats with success. Use this to check wakelocks as these are often the cause of mystery battery drain. There is an old but useful guide to that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827676
PS. Your Electronics degree gave me a semi
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PS. Your Electronics degree gave me a semi
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Me too. That was a difficult three years.
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i see 5h sot nearly every day i use n4, so its not impossible. its a matter of your signal quality and usage. when im using LTE, i always se 5h sot. on hspa+, i see 4-4.5h sot. i have everything enabled and am a heavy user, plus have 96 apps installed. no facebook on any of my devices though. and i never ever disable data.
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Not possible with the 2100mah that n4 has! I have the same set up and I'm getting 3h sot..
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i see 5h sot nearly every day i use n4, so its not impossible. its a matter of your signal quality and usage. when im using LTE, i always se 5h sot. on hspa+, i see 4-4.5h sot. i have everything enabled and am a heavy user, plus have 96 apps installed. no facebook on any of my devices though. and i never ever disable data.
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i never use data and i average 3,5-4h sot?
I wanted to start a semi-general discussion about battery life/issues/bugs on Lollipop. I'm using the VZW 2014 X, but I'm sure that the Pure Edition discussion will be similar (especially now that we're both on 22.21.11).
The two topics I'd like to discuss to start are:
1. What's draining your battery most (and why is it Google Play Services)? Solutions/bugs? For example, today I'm seeing what happens when I disable Location Reporting (and not History, for now).
2. Does the usage percentage reporting seem off to anyone else? The percentages are always very small (I'm guessing maybe they're supposed to add up to the total battery drain percentage), especially the Screen. When I use mine heavily, Screen will never take much more than 5-7%, if that.
All that aside I have been happy with battery life--it's at least 1.5 times better than my 2013 Moto X. I get down to 30% or so after a full day, can push 3.5-4 hours screen on time, and normally projects to last 20-24 hours with moderate usage.
I've been using the 22.21.6 OTA on my Pure Edition for a little while, rooted with Greenify. Google Play Services is taking up the most battery, it seems. No Facebook, although I do have some other social networks (Twitter, Instagram). It lasts me a day although I don't have too much SOT on it. I think yesterday it went from 7:00 to 23:00 (16 hours) with an hour or two of SOT with 30% or so left. Not great but it suits my needs. That was the first day since I got it that I've actually tested a full day of usage, in previous days I had been either messing with stuff over USB (rooting and programming) or on a long road trip with my hockey team that pushed me to way heavier than normal usage so I was charging a lot. Can't really blame Moto for that, though, it was hours of SOT for sure.
Today I deleted Google Fit (I just wanted to see it, but I don't think I'll use it that much and I feel like it might have something to do with it) and am using a different locations policy by turning off reporting and switching from always-on battery saver to using high accuracy and only enabling when needed. It'll be an ongoing experiment to maximize the life but to me that's part of the fun!
I've heard good things about 22.21.11 but I'm disappointed that I'll have to wipe again. Hopefully now that I'm rooted I can use Titanium Backup properly, last time I had to wipe was when I unlocked my bootloader to root, and Helium (unbeknownst to me) didn't support restoring from copy/paste (copied Helium backups to my computer then back onto the device, but wouldn't recognize them for restore).
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Hopefully now that I'm rooted I can use Titanium Backup properly, last time I had to wipe was when I unlocked my bootloader to root, and Helium (unbeknownst to me) didn't support restoring from copy/paste (copied Helium backups to my computer then back onto the device, but wouldn't recognize them for restore).
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FYI, in case Titanium doesn't work for you when/if you upgrade, I was able to backup my apps using Helium and then use adb restore to restore the data after I'd installed them again on the phone. Here's the guide in case it's helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-how-to-restore-app-data-to-moto-x-t2604423
Downside is having to restore each app individually, but I never even had to root the phone so it was pretty simple.
Hey at least u have root. Us VZW users are dying for some root in our lives.
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FYI, in case Titanium doesn't work for you when/if you upgrade, I was able to backup my apps using Helium and then use adb restore to restore the data after I'd installed them again on the phone. Here's the guide in case it's helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-how-to-restore-app-data-to-moto-x-t2604423
Downside is having to restore each app individually, but I never even had to root the phone so it was pretty simple.
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Does Helium not work to restore the app data on Lollipop?
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Does Helium not work to restore the app data on Lollipop?
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In my case, I was downgrading from 5.0 to 4.4.4 since the build I was on was missing incoming calls. As far as I've heard, restoring to Moto devices is not supported at all by Helium, but it may be worth a try on Lollipop.
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In my case, I was downgrading from 5.0 to 4.4.4 since the build I was on was missing incoming calls. As far as I've heard, restoring to Moto devices is not supported at all by Helium, but it may be worth a try on Lollipop.
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From what I read it's only older devices. This thread, for example, says you just need the right drivers for the 2013 Moto X.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/moto-x-2013/333316-moto-x-helium-backup.html
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From what I read it's only older devices. This thread, for example, says you just need the right drivers for the 2013 Moto X.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/moto-x-2013/333316-moto-x-helium-backup.html
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Could be. I can confirm that Helium did not recognize any backups for me on KitKat and it looks like the user above had the same issue. I haven't yet tested on Lollipop.
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Could be. I can confirm that Helium did not recognize any backups for me on KitKat and it looks like the user above had the same issue. I haven't yet tested on Lollipop.
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From what I heard the way I stored the backups was unsupported. I just copied them off my device and pasted them back later instead of storing on one of the cloud options or something. Maybe if I had it would be a different story. Now that I have root and Titanium I don't think I'm going to try again with Helium, though.
Updating on my trial today with Location reporting off: somehow, battery life ended up worse (need a large sample, I suppose). I'm on track for 2.5 hours screen on and 18 total hours on. Android OS had high reporting, just above Google Play Services.
Anyone else have experience tinkering with these settings? I may give it another day or two before turning off Location History completely.
Im on a pure edition X, newest update, and my battery life is ridiculous. Location on battery saving, NFC off, everything else on. Screen on adaptuve brightness. Heres the thread i started about it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/22-21-11-pure-edition-insane-battery-t2960474
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Im on a pure edition X, newest update, and my battery life is ridiculous. Location on battery saving, NFC off, everything else on. Screen on adaptuve brightness. Heres the thread i started about it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/22-21-11-pure-edition-insane-battery-t2960474
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Looks like I'll have to get the -11 release and see how it goes. What were you getting on kitkat or 22.21.6?
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Im on a pure edition X, newest update, and my battery life is ridiculous. Location on battery saving, NFC off, everything else on. Screen on adaptuve brightness. Heres the thread i started about it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/22-21-11-pure-edition-insane-battery-t2960474
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That's just unfathomable to me. I saw your post before I made this one. It's not as if I need 7 hours screen on time, but if it's possible then I sure as hell want it. I have brightness fixed just above the lowest, NFC off, location on battery saving, Location reporting off... just huge drain from Google Play Services and Android OS. I bet if I used the phone straight after unplugging I could reach 5 hours screen on, but it's the general/standby drain that's bothering me. I don't know what specifically would contribute to drain by Google Play Services aside from location reporting.
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That's just unfathomable to me. I saw your post before I made this one. It's not as if I need 7 hours screen on time, but if it's possible then I sure as hell want it. I have brightness fixed just above the lowest, NFC off, location on battery saving, Location reporting off... just huge drain from Google Play Services and Android OS. I bet if I used the phone straight after unplugging I could reach 5 hours screen on, but it's the general/standby drain that's bothering me. I don't know what specifically would contribute to drain by Google Play Services aside from location reporting.
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What version of google play services are you on, and how are your location settings?
I'd honestly never need 7 hours either. I really just wanted to push it and see. Yesterday I plugged in with 38% left, was off the charger for 14 hours and had 4:15 SOT. And that's normal/slightly above normal usage for me. Its just nice to know I won't have to worry if I need to use it more.
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What version of google play services are you on, and how are your location settings?
I'd honestly never need 7 hours either. I really just wanted to push it and see. Yesterday I plugged in with 38% left, was off the charger for 14 hours and had 4:15 SOT. And that's normal/slightly above normal usage for me. Its just nice to know I won't have to worry if I need to use it more.
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The latest--6.5.87 I think. I'm on battery saving as well. Dialer, Play Services, Google Search, Moto, and Motorola Modem service all report low battery usage. I turned Location Reporting off two days ago and somehow battery life got worse!
Also, I have Facebook and Twitter installed, but neither report high usage. Twitter syncing is also off.
Hmmm only difference is I don't use Facebook or twitter. No social media. But other than that, I use everything except for NFC. Google now. All moto enhancements.
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Hmmm only difference is I don't use Facebook or twitter. No social media. But other than that, I use everything except for NFC. Google now. All moto enhancements.
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Do you have the Wi-Fi scanning always on setting turned on as well?
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Do you have the Wi-Fi scanning always on setting turned on as well?
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Yes, I don't shut it off. No WiFi toggler either.
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Yes, I don't shut it off. No WiFi toggler either.
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Well, I can't think of anything else. Guess you're just a lucky bastard haha. Thanks for the info.
Gunna grab a Moto X as I have a Cyber Monday code. My concern though, is the battery. 2300mAh just seems too little. I own a SGS3, and it barely gets by the day.
To those who own the Moto X 2nd Gen, what are you guys looking at for screen on time and whatnot for an entire day? I saw the post about the guy getting 7 hours screen on, but that's without social media. I tend to be chatting continuously on WhatsApp and using Facebook quite a bit as well...
So I would like this tip to be there for as many people as possible and not let it get lost in some thread. Already got some great feedback from other who tried this too.
I do not have any feedback yet from snapdragon users, so results could be different there
In settings ==> apps==> show system apps.
Disable and then enable the following:
- Google Services Framework
- Google play store
- Google Play services (here, only wipe all data en cache).
After you enabled it, these services will update themselves again in a few minutes. But with one big change: a great standby battery usage!
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So it seems I had forgotten some other settings that I changed also, until I read someone else his post. So for here some additional steps:
- privacy -> location -> increase precision: set wifi en bluetooth off
- privacy -> location> location history: remove location history, and turn all other devices other then THIS DEVICE, to off.
After doing all steps, do a restart. Just to be sure .
Let me know if it helped you too
Just did it, will report back with results
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What i did last night was disable it that 3 and go to bed and charge the phone and this morning i turn in the 4G to go to work , and what i notice was the battery last i bit more , i notice the difference.
But as we know we can live without google services.
Now i see google services is one of the problem.
The standby only at night i can tell something.
Already losing only 2% battery overnight on wifi lol
How do I wipe the cache here? Also no option to disable or even stop here.
Nevermind I figured it out.
Unfortunately, this didn't help me. I'm still losing ~2% / hour, even overnight on WiFi.
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Unfortunately, this didn't help me. I'm still losing ~2% / hour, even overnight on WiFi.
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This will not help, I don't know who can believe this stuff.
It worked for one day...after a day the drain come back and still eating my battery!
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It worked for one day...after a day the drain come back and still eating my battery!
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Did you enable Google backup? Just trying to find out why it works. It's the only thing I have disabled while using this trick.
I have had Google backup disabled prior. Battery life still miserable. Did this trick seeing how it works.
This is where I am at now. I don't think this solution had any impact on my battery life. I was able to achieve these kinds of stats day one of the upgrade on tmobile with APG1 FIRMWARE. prior to that update less than 4 hours SOT. Where I'm at now isn't terrible, but it certainly could be better
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This is where I am at now. I don't think this solution had any impact on my battery life. I was able to achieve these kinds of stats day one of the upgrade on tmobile with APG1 FIRMWARE. prior to that update less than 4 hours SOT. Where I'm at now isn't terrible, but it certainly could be better
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well this is a great SOT for a mix usage..... I will test this method tonight and I will comeback tomorrow with the solution I used for the past week.
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well this is a great SOT for a mix usage..... I will test this method tonight and I will comeback tomorrow with the solution I used for the past week.
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You're saying my stats are great? I have GPS toggled off and Google back up disabled. I think battery life largely depends on what you're doing. Seems like you get much more life out of watching YouTube versus texting, or something similar. Also, no wifi usage today.
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You're saying my stats are great? I have GPS toggled off and Google back up disabled. I think battery life largely depends on what you're doing. Seems like you get much more life out of watching YouTube versus texting, or something similar. Also, no wifi usage today.
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you have the snapdragon right?
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you have the snapdragon right?
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Yeah, I do unfortunately.
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Yeah, I do unfortunately.
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sad indeed... try this for a change.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67638646&postcount=146
report there if you saw some improvement, for me doing that stuff really changed everything and keep in mind that I have everything enabled.
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sad indeed... try this for a change.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67638646&postcount=146
report there if you saw some improvement, for me doing that stuff really changed everything and keep in mind that I have everything enabled.
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I'm assuming you're referencing the WiFi glitch you noted on your device? In that case I generally don't use wifi much. Even when I'm at home I just never think to turn it on. I'm a nurse, so at work I'm moving around and jumping from modem to modem, plus all lines are monitored and I just feel uncomfortable with that. There is one unsecured connection which happens to be where my office is located, but like I said I bounce around at work a lot.
While I never thought I would see the day that I was able to achieve 6 hours SOT, somehow I did. I'm attributing it mostly to the most recent Tmobile update although I did follow the instructions in this video, but based upon previous usage drain prior to applying this method, it seems to be on par.
Granted I do have location services turned off as well as Google back up, which has not been of any help historically. So with that being said I am finally pleased with the battery life I managed to achieved. However I will continue to monitor it as battery drain on this phone just seems so day to day.
nevermind. Happy it helped
I got the notification today that there's Oreo available for my U Ultra (I'm in Germany, Hessen) and just wanted to ask if someone's already done the update and if they could share their opinions on it
I've done the update yesterday and i guess twrp ****ed it up. Now i'm using a custom rom cause I haven't done an backup of my old system.
Amphibius2 said:
I got the notification today that there's Oreo available for my U Ultra (I'm in Germany, Hessen) and just wanted to ask if someone's already done the update and if they could share their opinions on it
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I guess you are on the Single SIM phone. From what I've been reading here and there, people are saying it is more finished than the DualSIM. Although it has a very aggressive battery saving settings so many of your apps will be terminated while the phone is on idle (apps such as Skype, Signal, WhatsApp etc.) unless you grant them exemption from battery saving.
The SOT is said to be shorter than Nougat.
However, to properly install the OTA you do have to have the factory recovery (not the TWRP).
(I'm on DualSIM and still Nougat so take my words just as a hint.)
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I guess you are on the Single SIM phone. From what I've been reading here and there, people are saying it is more finished than the DualSIM. Although it has a very aggressive battery saving settings so many of your apps will be terminated while the phone is on idle (apps such as Skype, Signal, WhatsApp etc.) unless you grant them exemption from battery saving.
The SOT is said to be shorter than Nougat.
However, to properly install the OTA you do have to have the factory recovery (not the TWRP).
(I'm on DualSIM and still Nougat so take my words just as a hint.)
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I've been on Oreo for a while now and I would say that the battery life got better after a bit of use. Kinda like if the phone had to get used to my usage? Went from 2h SOT to nearly 4 and a half hours SOT. I didn't reset it or anything. Just went with it and it works fine for me. No real increase in power since nougat was already very smooth and powerful for me. I like the design though. Don't regret installing the update:victory:
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I've been on Oreo for a while now and I would say that the battery life got better after a bit of use. Kinda like if the phone had to get used to my usage? Went from 2h SOT to nearly 4 and a half hours SOT. I didn't reset it or anything. Just went with it and it works fine for me. No real increase in power since nougat was already very smooth and powerful for me. I like the design though. Don't regret installing the update:victory:
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So, since I've just messed up with my Xposed/Magisk install I think I use the 1st of May for upgrade and tweaks.
On 9.0.5 was getting around 8-9hrs SOT now it's down to around 6. Have erased cache in recovery and restarted. I shouldn't have to do a hard reset after every update so I don't know what the issue is. I haven't installed anything else and have the same settings on as I did before the update. I'm unrooted add well.I just curious if anyone else is experiencing a decrease in battery life quality after the 9.0.6 OTA?
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On 9.0.5 was getting around 8-9hrs SOT now it's down to around 6. Have erased cache in recovery and restarted. I shouldn't have to do a hard reset after every update so I don't know what the issue is. I haven't installed anything else and have the same settings on as I did before the update. I'm unrooted add well.I just curious if anyone else is experiencing a decrease in battery life quality after the 9.0.6 OTA?
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I'm experiencing the same thing
Same, checked what is draining the battery but everything seems fine.
Same for me: after update SOT 6.5-7h, before around 9h. No root
Mine was worse on 9.0.6 unlocked bl with magisk.
After that I used the MSM tool just to use it so I can learn.
After the MSM tool full restore battery was life was better.
I was also stock kernel and after the restore I put ElementalX.
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Mine was worse on 9.0.6 unlocked bl with magisk.
After that I used the MSM tool just to use it so I can learn.
After the MSM tool full restore battery was life was better.
I was also stock kernel and after the restore I put ElementalX.
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That's one of my points though, we shouldn't have to do a full restore every single time when taking an update
Have anyone found solution to this problem? This thread is holding me back from purchase.
9.0.6, drains fast...just wait for update
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Have anyone found solution to this problem? This thread is holding me back from purchase.
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Honestly, the battery life is still ridiculous, still a no brainier to get this phone, even with this update, but no doubt they'll fix it in the next one, it's just a pain, I'm really wondering if anyone's found a fix, and waiting for the next update is going to be anoying, but patience is a virtue lol
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Honestly, the battery life is still ridiculous, still a no brainier to get this phone, even with this update, but no doubt they'll fix it in the next one, it's just a pain, I'm really wondering if anyone's found a fix, and waiting for the next update is going to be anoying, but patience is a virtue lol
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Very true. I'm experiencing worse battery like but I'm still going 6+ hours sot and 30+ hours on a charge. It's like a Moto z play but flagship speed.
My idle drain is amazing still. Drops 2-3% in 8 hours if deep sleep. It's just seems to drain faster while screen is on.
Has this issue been fixed with 9.0.7?
There are no battery drain issues with this device.
If you're expereincing bad battery life, tweak your settings or put your brain to work and figure out why. Stop blaming it on the OS, as it should be common knowledge by now to understand that battery life is completely subjective to the user and their location and usage habits, so it will vary widely from user to user...it is what it is. This device is capable of astounding battery life, period.
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There are no battery drain issues with this device.
If you're expereincing bad battery life, tweak your settings or put your brain to work and figure out why. Stop blaming it on the OS, as it should be common knowledge by now to understand that battery life is completely subjective to the user and their location and usage habits, so it will vary widely from user to user...it is what it is. This device is capable of astounding battery life, period.
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I agree.
I have not experienced worse battery on 9.0.6 at all. What I have noticed is my usage has changed over time (honey moon period)
Perhaps your usages /locations have changed?
Switching from WiFi to celullars (especially outdoors when your removing about) make a big difference.
I agree the battery is great.
After being on 9.0.7 since release I feel its slightly better so far.
hoevito said:
There are no battery drain issues with this device.
If you're expereincing bad battery life, tweak your settings or put your brain to work and figure out why. Stop blaming it on the OS, as it should be common knowledge by now to understand that battery life is completely subjective to the user and their location and usage habits, so it will vary widely from user to user...it is what it is. This device is capable of astounding battery life, period.
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vhc said:
I agree.
I have not experienced worse battery on 9.0.6 at all. What I have noticed is my usage has changed over time (honey moon period)
Perhaps your usages /locations have changed?
Switching from WiFi to celullars (especially outdoors when your removing about) make a big difference.
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See that's what I initially thought, but even with the 9.0.7 update, the fact is there is no usage difference at all on my part, no change of location, no change of settings, literally not a single thing different from the day before apart from the cache wipe. I have the exact same app usage and no major apps have been updated. For me personally I don't change my habits at all, and whether I or anyone else use any app 10 min more or less than the day before shouldn't make this big of a difference, especially such a drop. I'm not saying the battery life is bad after the update, don't get me wrong 6-7 hrs of SOT is amazing on any phone, i'm just pointing out that clearly then at this point it does in fact have something to do with a change in the OS right, especially if these minor differences in less then what I would give everyone's 5 most used apps they use daily are causing a 1-2hr drop in average SOT...
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See that's what I initially thought, but even with the 9.0.7 update, the fact is there is no usage difference at all on my part, no change of location, no change of settings, literally not a single thing different from the day before apart from the cache wipe. I have the exact same app usage and no major apps have been updated. For me personally I don't change my habits at all, and whether I or anyone else use any app 10 min more or less than the day before shouldn't make this big of a difference, especially such a drop. I'm not saying the battery life is bad after the update, don't get me wrong 6-7 hrs of SOT is amazing on any phone, i'm just pointing out that clearly then at this point it does in fact have something to do with a change in the OS right, especially if these minor differences in less then what I would give everyone's 5 most used apps they use daily are causing a 1-2hr drop in average SOT...
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Fair point I guess.
I've never gotten 8 hrs SOT, 6 hrs at most and it's always been like that since day 1.
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See that's what I initially thought, but even with the 9.0.7 update, the fact is there is no usage difference at all on my part, no change of location, no change of settings, literally not a single thing different from the day before apart from the cache wipe. I have the exact same app usage and no major apps have been updated. For me personally I don't change my habits at all, and whether I or anyone else use any app 10 min more or less than the day before shouldn't make this big of a difference, especially such a drop. I'm not saying the battery life is bad after the update, don't get me wrong 6-7 hrs of SOT is amazing on any phone, i'm just pointing out that clearly then at this point it does in fact have something to do with a change in the OS right, especially if these minor differences in less then what I would give everyone's 5 most used apps they use daily are causing a 1-2hr drop in average SOT...
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And what if it's an app which got updated and started behaving strangely and sucking battery juice ? I would start with that then use BBS to look for detailed battery usage ...