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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409429
thanks Martin
you got the point , i am new here also
and from 3 days i am trying to know what you talking about and frankly some guys try to explain for me but still a lot of things are not understood
they must make a sticky thread for what Rom and how to install it and all the principles things
first port of call. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ start reading.
ayman morsy said:
thanks Martin
you got the point , i am new here also
and from 3 days i am trying to know what you talking about and frankly some guys try to explain for me but still a lot of things are not understood
they must make a sticky thread for what Rom and how to install it and all the principles things
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haha, you joined this forum this month, and you think you can undestand it all?
I have been here a little while..I still get surprised with what I can find on this forum.
If I want to learn something new, I spend a great deal of hours trying to find something I can use, and when I find something, I spend alot of time reading up on it, searching even more in the same topic.
All in all. The wiki is not perfect, the forum is not perfect, but in my oppinion, its dam close. I know a bunch of paysites that provides alot less info then you find here.
We are a bunch of ppl who love what we are doing, but demanding more and more and more is not the way to do it.
And the funny thing here is: Imagine if you got all the answers, and are happy with it
Imagine then...In a few days, another guy ask the same question, ofcourse you help him....and then, in a few days, another thread is started with similar questions. and so on...
Then you start thinking; hmmm, maybe we should make a sticky with this info, so that the noobs dont ask so many times, I will make it easy for them.
So there..you got a sticky with the topic, and alot of good answers (now you have become a more experienced user, uyou are getting good with the terms used here, you know what stuff means, like in.ex RUU, ROM, Hard-SPL etc..)
And again, you are happy to help ppl out, you start using the language used on this forum, you use the knowlege you have mastered in some degree.
And your sticky is full of wisdom and knowlege.
But...after 50 guys have asked the same question (in many diffrent ways, nice, begging, cursing, hateful and so on) you start thinking:
Dam, will those huys never learn to read? Hell, I have given them everything I know, the best way I can.
You are starting to become lazy with posting in your sticky, cause you have done so before, so many times...even on pm (private messages) ppl are asking for personal guidence, and they need it now (and your girlfriend is waiting in the bedroom, or dinner is ready, or you need to go to work, or you have damn much stuff you need to fix with the latest w/e, and are quite finished with that old ****, cause you have moved way past that stage long time ago )
And suddenly you find yourself writing something like I am writing now...
welcome to XDA
@itje
wow. nothin more to add
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409429
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OK. we will change ALL...we will make it like in other forums...a "How 2 post" so that EVERY post looks the same...so that noob can follow...
BUT YOU check ALL NEW post if they are posted the right way.
hahahahahahaahaha
NO man. IF you cannnot follow the instructions in the threads...DO NOT FLASH!!!
I spent 1 year ONLY READING before flashing my first rom!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SO don´t come here with 5 posts and tell us how to do our job
Well i dont wish to be this forum like any other "plx crack this phorumzz", i think its just as it should be.
besides, when i started flashing my htc devices, it took me 10 mins to find xda-dev's, and another 30 min to figure out what buttons to press to get the stuff i wanted to have.
so dont tell us its too difficult - if youre not smart enough its not our concern.
use google for other forums if youre not pleased with the offers in here.
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Well i dont wish to be this forum like any other "plx crack this phorumzz", i think its just as it should be.
besides, when i started flashing my htc devices, it took me 10 mins to find xda-dev's, and another 30 min to figure out what buttons to press to get the stuff i wanted to have.
so dont tell us its too difficult - if youre not smart enough its not our concern.
use google for other forums if youre not pleased with the offers in here.
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if you need something, use search and READ ALL, schmidler
i know, it takes time ...
Hi everyone, just wondering if anyone else is having this problem.
But i can not seem to keep a H Signal for very long before it keeps going back to 3G.
and it has only started happening since installing VillainROM 3.4!.
When i am on the net it works fine, but when i am not active for about 10seconds is drops connection..
and this is a real problem when i am using Soccer Centre and i have to come out the program and back in for it to active H again..
Anyone else having this issue?
Thanks
Marc
didnt need a thread to itself
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didnt need a thread to itself
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I felt it did - cause i did not want it getting lost in the
7,417 Post and 792,965 Views of the other topic...
Works perfect for me
Flash the latest radio (my sig) if you have not already got it.
If you do then reflash it
@Redpizzi
Please do NOT start new threads with Villain issues. PLEASE use the Villain thread.
Regarding to your issue, flash the latest radio again like Lenny said.
Thanks Lennyuk, will try that...i have the latest rom, but will re-install it..
Like i am sat here and the icon is 3G - but when i load up internet or market then it changes to H, then if i leave it for a few mins it goes back to 3g....i thought i might have been a battery saving thing in the rom or in the 2.1 FW....
Thanks again
And Phanes / ermacwins. i got that answer i needed, and now other people dont have to look though 700 pages of posts to find the same answer if they have that problem.
So sorry if you dont like it but it is how i have done thing in forums for 20 years...
@Redpizzi
... didn´t know that there where forums and INTERNET in 1990 ...
I don´t think I want to give you a hand in the future ...
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And Phanes / ermacwins. i got that answer i needed, and now other people dont have to look though 700 pages of posts to find the same answer if they have that problem.
So sorry if you dont like it but it is how i have done thing in forums for 20 years...
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awesome, continue like that and ppl who are actually interested in DEVELOPING will have to go through 700 threads of noob mistakes before they find something interesting. and no, there was no internet 20 years ago. if you had at least 20 days of forum experience you might have learned to post in the correct section...
Forums - are not just related to the internet -forums have been around for a long time people.
Phanes you never gave me a hand anyway...
I asked for some help and i got the help i asked for. Fine i should not have but VillainROM in the Thread - but when i posted in the Villain thread before about another problem it never got answered.
Job is a good one, just dont need people ermacwins/Phanes and the **** kendong2 trying to noob bash.
I dont give a **** how many posts you have done, i have been here since 2005 and help when i can no matter where the ****ing post is....
The main man Lennyuk gave me am answer and i will try that. if that does not work, then please just direct me to the right place, DONT start giving me **** for it.
END OF CURRENT THREAD - DELETE IF YOU WANT...
****ing hate people trying to noob bash.....
so if you are that know-it-all guy that has done it all forever and before everybody else, why is it asked too much that you stick to the rules like everybody else does?
and for the record: you are the only one flaming around here, i for example never called anyone a **** around here.
Yer i was flaming cause i asked for help and instead i got noob bashes trying it on..so dont piss me off again, and drop it.....no more slagging off the topic, will ask for help elsewhere
Now the problem has not been solved, so i am gonna try another rom to see if that has the same problem. i have even parked right next to my local Antenna.....
Thanks again Lennyuk
Well not familiar with forum rules but agree with OP that it's nightmare to browse through all the posts when there are 50+ (most of them repetitive and useless) replies on single day.
and just realised that i added one now.........
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Well not familiar with forum rules but agree with OP that it's nightmare to browse through all the posts when there are 50+ (most of them repetitive and useless) replies on single day.
and just realised that i added one now.........
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well this topic is not repetitive not useless and if it was against the forum rules then i cannot see why..
260 views mean people are interested untill they find out omeone needs help.
tell me about it. Asked something earlier and the same two were right on queue, no help at all, complaining like I just shat in their cereal. There really is no need for that.
Obviously I'm new to these forums, but been around many other forums for years and years, when I read their response I was literally like oh here we go, I guess this is just another one of those elitist forums, full of mod wannabes and keyboard warriors. Thats until helpful people like lenny weighs in and restores some faith.
Let us know how you get on with reflashing the radio Redpizzi, I have this same "problem", I thought thats just how it was since I got the hero not long ago, and the internet was like that before I flashed it with a custom rom as well. Its minor though but would be good to get the best out of the phone.
your thread was moved by a mod and you still don't get it? so you are also resistant to learning?
well, i guess we have to blame your parents, for not raising you right. other kids have learned not to talk in between while adults are talking.
you guys are so annoying, ive never seen such ganging on someone for simply a post, so cut the crap and either tell him wat he wants or not.
I've also had this issue and the latest radio hasnt resolved it either, I'm also having trouble with slow internet and reception cutting and coming back, ive tried all the 2.1 eris and legend roms and found that behero is the one with the least issues but still isnt all that perfect, i still get cut off sometimes and find no reception, so for the wifi aswell.
kendong2 fair enough if its was in the wrong forum, as im new here I thought something customrom related goes here in the development forum.
the mod moved the thread I thought nothing of it, you on the other hand must've thought it was a personal victory for you and thought it was the equivalent of a public spanking lol. Did you somehow think you were secretly pulling the strings by pointing it out?
Is your whole ambition to be a mod on here or something? just to point out where people are posting wrong and try to insult them lol. Just from a few posts I find it hard to believe that you have any friends. I wont be surprised if you're actually some 13 year old who gets bullied everyday at school and trying to get your power trip on the internet. Next thing you know you'll be pointing out spelling mistakes and missed capital letters. Get a life you loser cos this forum is obviously all you have. You really give this forum a bad name. you're on a phone forum but I doubt anyone ever rings your phone.
Just knock it off. It´s really enough now.
Why don´t you accept that WE how we care about those issues want to see the issues posted IN THE THREAD not somewhere else.
It is done for you guys, for those who have issues and not being able to help themselves.
And stop this passive/aggressive game.
fair enough phanes. he started getting personal first so could only return like for like.
but you do have to concede for new users some things on here are not just there in plain sight to be found out. Not just a simple search away. There's a 700 page thread and everything else is in technobabble. Its simple and intuitive for you cos you already know it. Its like telling someone to learn how to do keyhole surgery by just telling them to read a book. Not even a specific book, just "a" book.
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fair enough phanes. he started getting personal first so could only return like for like.
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yeah right, because it was me calling ppl a "****" around here. read my posts, i point people out where they are wrong, and usually offer help in the very same post. you are complaining that you can not learn if nobody explains it to you, yet when i explain what you did wrong you still complain. seriously dude, it is not that bad to make mistakes, and i never blamed anyone for that (prove me wrong otherwise!), but it is bad if you don't accept that you made a mistake and learn from it. the fact that about ten threads got moved from the dev section to general or q&a in the last week alone is proof enough that everybody is just posting whatever he wants whereever he wants. i don't think i am secretly pulling any strings (actually i don't even know what you are trying to say...?), and it was for sure not a personal victory, all i did was one neutral post about the thread being in the wrong forum. if you can not deal with critics about your behaviour then you shouldn't come to the internet. go to your gazillions of friends, if they support that behaviour. this is a community, and if it is asked too much from you to stick to the most simple, general rules (that apply to ALL forums on the internet btw!) you won't find people to be that helpful. and obviously you need help.
you have contributed absolutely zero so far, except spamming the dev forum and flaming around here, you think you make friends like that? if it wasn't for lenny and his endless patience you'd still be crying like a little baby whose toy is broken...
Sorry if there is something about this i might of missed search dident help to much.
i saw on youtube of people who have managed to replace the Windows OS alltogether on the HTC HD2 and i was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction for going from Windows to Android.
preferably with a self installer as im not the best with this kind of thing.
Thank you for any help in advance
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Sorry if there is something about this i might of missed search dident help to much.
i saw on youtube of people who have managed to replace the Windows OS alltogether on the HTC HD2 and i was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction for going from Windows to Android.
preferably with a self installer as im not the best with this kind of thing.
Thank you for any help in advance
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HA!!! REALLY??? Wow!
GTdave91 said:
Sorry if there is something about this i might of missed search dident help to much.
i saw on youtube of people who have managed to replace the Windows OS alltogether on the HTC HD2 and i was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction for going from Windows to Android.
preferably with a self installer as im not the best with this kind of thing.
Thank you for any help in advance
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alright, i'm going to try and do this without flaming; how can i put this?...hmmm....READ! if you would take the time to look at the post about 3 down from yours you would've found a discussion about NAND, sit back and read up.
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HA!!! REALLY??? Wow!
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what?
You didnt search good enough...IT'S FAKE
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732160&page=57
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what?
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i believe that comment was because this has been addressed a LOT!! when new users ask questions without doing a little research on their own first people are less likely to help you in this forum. just a heads up for next time. good luck finding the information you need and next time try to spend a little time reading previous posts to find answers first. take care
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i believe that comment was because this has been addressed a LOT!! when new users ask questions without doing a little research on their own first people are less likely to help you in this forum. just a heads up for next time. good luck finding the information you need and next time try to spend a little time reading previous posts to find answers first. take care
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The reasons why people less likely to help are
1) they don't really have enough or reliable information to give you an exact answer.
2)It is angry when you answer question like this: 1000times
are you a boy?yes
what is your name?noob
are you a boy?yes
what is your name?noob
are you a male?yes
what is your first name?freaking
you sure you are a boy?yes
what is your name again? freaking noob.......
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However, mostly XDA users are polite. please read and search...Before you start a thread, if you are lazy...press ALT+F4,it definitely help you heaps.....
Search dude....
I can help u locate the search box on this page..let me know
Dudes, I'm all for arguing but your going a bit too far.
Recently I've seen more than plenty of people getting pissed at newbies because they ask a commonly asked question.
They don't call them newbies because they know everything I just want you to take it a bit easier on them.
Who knows that newbie might be the next Dev that amazes us.
I'm sure most of you weren't treated like **** when you first joined and asked a question or made a error...
Just calm down and remember their new and they will learn.
Thanks
P.s. I hope I don't sound like a hippie.
+1!!
Sent from Bionix powered vibrant! If I helped, hit the thanks button!
it's not really new. it's been like that in the vibrant section since i started coming to it back in like june....
but i agree.
You have some good points! At the same time some of the frustration people have on here is that people or newbies don't use yhe search option.
They go and asked the same question that was asked a page back or so!
The newbies are getting more and more lazy and aren't doing enough research before they ask a question!
I'm not an expert at any of this stuff, but when I got started with all this flashing stuff last year I did my homework are researched everything I could before I did my first flash!
If I had a question or even today when I have a question I make sure I browse the tread to see if I find the answer or use the search option before I go posting it for the 100th time!
Just my 2¢!
Rockin that Bionix V 1.2 w/ Androdena V4
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it's not really new. it's been like that in the vibrant section since i started coming to it back in like june....
but i agree.
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The interwebz has always been this way. You should of seen the G1 forums back on the day. I have noticed recently though that this happens when the natives get restless... aka: there are no new Roms or updates to flash and/or ppl check the forums way tooooo much and so it turns into the state we have now.
This will never end just to let you know. PMs and reporting post work wonders.
Know this. It isnt just these threads for this forum.
Its Apart of life and people get very fustrated with it. Case in point I had a guy call me at work and ask me how to work his computer.
Its people like this customer that make my head hurt.
He then proceed's to ask me how to get internet.
I say sir you must call att or timewarner or who ever can provide internet to you.
He then says " cant I just sign up over the internet with a credit card"
I think to myself "how in the hell are you going to sign up for internet over the internet when you do not have internet.
point of this is 1) its funny! 2) I get how you feel I use to get very fustrated with this sight. Some people just do not read or comprehend what we do. Other times I am just as dumb as they are.
xriderx66 said:
Dudes, I'm all for arguing but your going a bit too far.
Recently I've seen more than plenty of people getting pissed at newbies because they ask a commonly asked question.
They don't call them newbies because they know everything I just want you to take it a bit easier on them.
Who knows that newbie might be the next Dev that amazes us.
I'm sure most of you weren't treated like **** when you first joined and asked a question or made a error...
Just calm down and remember their new and they will learn.
Thanks
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You have some good points! At the same time some of the frustration people have on here is that people or newbies don't use yhe search option.
They go and asked the same question that was asked a page back or so!
The newbies are getting more and more lazy and aren't doing enough research before they ask a question!
I'm not an expert at any of this stuff, but when I got started with all this flashing stuff last year I did my homework are researched everything I could before I did my first flash!
If I had a question or even today when I have a question I make sure I browse the tread to see if I find the answer or use the search option before I go posting it for the 100th time!
Just my 2¢!
Rockin that Bionix V 1.2 w/ Androdena V4
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Both points, have hit the marks!
I started to search for the newbie's and just post them as answers to people that are new to this.
But if i don't have the time of my life (I have a family too, and i'm damn old for this, lol), then I would just answer but with a courteous and politely tell them to search next time.
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The interwebz has always been this way. You should of seen the G1 forums back on the day. I have noticed recently though that this happens when the natives get restless... aka: there are no new Roms or updates to flash and/or ppl check the forums way tooooo much and so it turns into the state we have now.
This will never end just to let you know. PMs and reporting post work wonders.
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LOL, yeah, G1 days was...umm... let's just say, it was 'busy'. Shoot, the Symbian forums in the olden days was the same. People pester me with updates and crap, and making this change, and do that.... Oy.
I agree with All~G1, sometimes there are 'certain users' who can't take a joke, or too serious, or just plain jerk. So those I do report to Mods and it does work wonders...
The problem is that people expect everyone else to take time to help them but don't take anytime to help themselves (ie, searching for a solution before asking for one)
Ill admit I'm a noob to the android bit but to the tech or fourm world but iv learned in my years the google and forum search are your best friends when learnong something new that's how I found this site. However I have noticed that some threads on here may have 1000+ replys and the forum search here as with most boards don't always put you close to the answer you need so and I can see how other noobs who really arnt familuar with forums like this could find it overwhelimg trying to go through that amount of posts
Sent from my hero running froyo with the XDA APP
Like any forum, search is your friend. You have a problem? First search and check stickies before asking. Them are the laws of the internets plain and simple. I'm not the most educated when it comes to android, but I try and answer questions the best I can to help out. When I see pages 1,2 and three of general chat all asking for help about kies update to 2.2, I get pissed too.
I think vibrant members are on the nicer side of the spectrum.
I understand using search isn't that hard, but new users may not be familiar to vbulletin forums and search feautures, but yes most of them don't even bother.
i went from stock 2.1 to rooted 2.2 flagship v4 just by using the search button. getting pissed might be going a bit far, but they do deserve a good jerkin!
I highly doubt a newbie or n00b who expects everything handed to him and his phone to be automagically rooted and flashed with roms will be the next greatest developer and i haven't even heard anyone be called a newbie ever in any forum but i get where your coming from
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I highly doubt a newbie or n00b who expects everything handed to him and his phone to be automagically rooted and flashed with roms will be the next greatest developer and i haven't even heard anyone be called a newbie ever in any forum but i get where your coming from
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Lol automagically... i'm writing that one down
Sent from Bionix powered vibrant! If I helped, hit the thanks button!
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P.s. I hope I don't sound like a hippie.
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A little bit but you are right, I don't know why but the Vibrant crowd get REALLY rough and terse...... people need to show some compassion.........we were all newbies at one time........ good post
Search really isn't that hard. I've been flashing roms on here since Bionix 4 for 2.1 and I never did so until I read the stickies and did research. It's sad that they're not used as much as they should be and it's even sadder that in this day and age, searching key phrases for specific information is still comparable to college level calculus for many internet users.
Sent from my Bionix-V powered Samsung Vibrant that I customized by actually using search intelligently and never cluttering threads. Imagine that!
i haven't been around here for so long but i already know how devs and the experienced get so easily pissed at noob questions. i refrain myself from asking questions AT LEAST in dev threads unless it's absolutely necessary and my googling and searching forums wouldn't give me any clues.
i think devs must have been pretty passionate and must have offered to help, but with growing number of noobs-not all noobs- throwing dumb questions, making threads run hundreds of pages, i understand being passionate no longer is possible
Is there a newbie or beginner section? I think I looked at the xda forum a year ago and it just overwhelmed me at one point where I just didn't care about rooting. Then I met the samsung vibrant and it frustrated me to no end where I had to start reading up a little bit.
Hello, I'm a noob to rooting, but figured I'd slip in a hello, I barely got my Evo 4G rooted with Revolutionary since going to 2.3. I used to do a lot of iPhone jail breaking and figured this would be the same....I'm learning that it's not...still not sure what a kernel really is hah, anyway, yeah. Hello.
kshortes said:
Hello, I'm a noob to rooting, but figured I'd slip in a hello, I barely got my Evo 4G rooted with Revolutionary since going to 2.3. I used to do a lot of iPhone jail breaking and figured this would be the same....I'm learning that it's not...still not sure what a kernel really is hah, anyway, yeah. Hello.
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Welcome to the community. Just read a lot through the posts and all of your questions will be answered. Just remember to search before you post a question! Once again, welcome!
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Welcome to the community. Just read a lot through the posts and all of your questions will be answered. Just remember to search before you post a question! Once again, welcome!
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I was getting ready to post a question, then i searched it and there was my answer, but it came with a new question....which the answer was found the same way, people weren't kidding about this site when they tell me you can literally find anything here. Looking forward to getting more active here. Cheers.
Welcome to android. This site has really helped me learn a lot and I now feel comfortable modding all sorts of things on my evo. And like it was said, always search. There is a ton of info on here and if you can't find an answer, there are plenty of people to help
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Hello and welcome! Lots of info here, just start browsing.
Welcome. Agree with the OP about reading.
What I did to help me learn before rooting my Evo was to just read through the threads in Q&A and General. It gave me a lot of small bits of information that I didn't find in the guides and stickies, and really helped me familiarize myself with what I was getting into. Once I started knowing the answers to some of those questions, I tried to help out. That's really helped me to continue learning.
I'm in the process of doing it again for my boyfriend's Thunderbolt, trying to decipher what small differences there are between the two devices. I know it's usually the other way around - the boyfriend does the rooting stuff for his girl - but we're a couple of odd birds.
Anyway, great to see someone new taking the initiative to search out their questions! It's refreshing to say the least. Welcome to XDA
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk
good place to start
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245
this helped me mucho!
plainjane said:
What I did to help me learn before rooting my Evo was to just read through the threads in Q&A and General. It gave me a lot of small bits of information that I didn't find in the guides and stickies, and really helped me familiarize myself with what I was getting into. Once I started knowing the answers to some of those questions, I tried to help out. That's really helped me to continue learning.
I'm in the process of doing it again for my boyfriend's Thunderbolt, trying to decipher what small differences there are between the two devices. I know it's usually the other way around - the boyfriend does the rooting stuff for his girl - but we're a couple of odd birds.
Anyway, great to see someone new taking the initiative to search out their questions! It's refreshing to say the least. Welcome to XDA
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk
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I had to help my boy root his Thunderbolt and I just skimmed through the Thunderbolt threads for a root method that look similar and one that a lot of people seemed to say had little to no problems and went with it. He came from an Iphone as well and now has become quite a flashaholic. Every time I see him he has a new theme or trying new stuff. From what I have seen from that forum we share some of the same developers so it should not be an issue for you.
Honestly I know a lot of people get scared when messing with their phone but most things are common sense and if in doubt a search in here will help you out. Always read the OP over and over till you feel you got it down....
Enjoy and welcome to Android and XDA ...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245
this helped me mucho!
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I second this as well. Really helped me out at first.