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Did Developers avoided this Device or work on custom roms on?

As we all know Mi a1 makes it difficult for custom rom building coz of A/B partitions ..
But i wanted to whether all the developers are in to make a lot of stable custom roms or they have moved away from the device.
I am not asking for customs roms now itself just wanted to know there is support and working on in the background or not.

I don't think they're avoiding it, it's just taking time to bring up the device tree.. I might dig into it a bit this weekend and try to bring up the device tree to 8.1, the problem is that even in 7.1.2 we don't have everything working. also, Xiaomi did a terrible job with the kernel, took them 4 months to release it and when they did they released an old 7.1.2 based kernel with the commits squashed into one commit over an older CAF tree

Developers are hampered by the lack of availability of source code that is yet to be released by xiaomi, (they have released the code, but not Oreo) otherwise we would have good ROMs by now

sooti said:
I don't think they're avoiding it, it's just taking time to bring up the device tree.. I might dig into it a bit this weekend and try to bring up the device tree to 8.1, the problem is that even in 7.1.2 we don't have everything working. also, Xiaomi did a terrible job with the kernel, took them 4 months to release it and when they did they released an old 7.1.2 based kernel with the commits squashed into one commit over an older CAF tree
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Yes that ok .. Waiting is worth the wait . But can we expect stable custom roms within a month

Vibun said:
Yes that ok .. Waiting is worth the wait . But can we expect stable custom roms within a month
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LineageOS is out. And I'll say yes.
Once LineageOS is perfectly stable you'll see many more ROMs.
No, developers are not purposely avoiding the device. On the contrary the day after the sources dropped we had 3 ROMs (broken nonetheless, only RIL worked) by three different devs.
As of right now, everyone has joined hands and are fixing LOS14.1
Even Francisco Franco said he's getting his kernel to this device, just be a bit patient.
Sent from my Mi A1 using XDA Labs

Ron1209 said:
LineageOS is out. And I'll say yes.
Once LineageOS is perfectly stable you'll see many more ROMs.
No, developers are not purposely avoiding the device. On the contrary the day after the sources dropped we had 3 ROMs (broken nonetheless, only RIL worked) by three different devs.
As of right now, everyone has joined hands and are fixing LOS14.1
Even Francisco Franco said he's getting his kernel to this device, just be a bit patient.
Sent from my Mi A1 using XDA Labs
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Yes , I totally agree with u .. It's a new type of device (a/b partition ) it would take time .. just wanted to know that work is going around on it

Vibun said:
But can I expect stable custom roms within a month
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Are you gonna pay them?

iMewo said:
Are you gonna pay them?
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Dude !! Read my thread properly at the beginning. I said I am not asking for custom roms now ... Just wanted to know whether the device is under work or not ....

Vibun said:
Dude !! Read my thread properly at the beginning. I said I am not asking for custom roms now ... Just wanted to know whether the device is under work or not ....
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Vibun said:
Yes that ok .. Waiting is worth the wait . But can we expect stable custom roms within a month
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try give whoever it is an extra day or 2 maybe.just wait am sure were gonna see a lot of roms coming up

If your waiting for development then you have not done your research. Development devs dont buy from this oem. They even avoid it. The best you can hope for is some of the users porting the roms over but they will most likely be buggy as they always are with this oem.

zelendel said:
If your waiting for development then you have not done your research. Development devs dont buy from this oem. They even avoid it. The best you can hope for is some of the users porting the roms over but they will most likely be buggy as they always are with this oem.
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Then what are your thoughts about Pixel Experience on Redmi Note 4? It has a very few bugs, and in fact gives better battery life than MIUI 9. That ROM isn't considered to be a port, right?

guy_infinity said:
Then what are your thoughts about Pixel Experience on Redmi Note 4? It has a very few bugs, and in fact gives better battery life than MIUI 9. That ROM isn't considered to be a port, right?
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Any rom will give better batter battery life then miui. That is due to all the background syncing that it does in the back ground.
As for that rom. Any rom that brings over a pixel like rom is a port.
I wouldn't really know as this device isn't sold in my country nor does anyone I know even look twice at the oem.

Stop this A/B partitioning scheme BS. Of course, it does not make life easier for the developers but it certainly isn't the biggest obstacle.

gougous3 said:
Stop this A/B partitioning scheme BS. Of course, it does not make life easier for the developers but it certainly isn't the biggest obstacle.
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Really. Ask the devs that got the pixel and after that won't touch a device with the partition setup. It makes things almost impossible to get working right. Me, I would just repatriation the device and remove the partition all together.

zelendel said:
Really. Ask the devs that got the pixel and after that won't touch a device with the partition setup. It makes things almost impossible to get working right. Me, I would just repatriation the device and remove the partition all together.
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I'm not neglecting that but, in my opinion, it isn't that big of a deal anymore. I'm sure that even we if we didn't had it, things wouldn't be much better.

gougous3 said:
I'm not neglecting that but, in my opinion, it isn't that big of a deal anymore. I'm sure that even we if we didn't had it, things wouldn't be much better.
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Well considering the oem you are right. But for normal devices those that don't have the partition are the more dev friendly. Just talk to some of the devs. Most have sworn off anything that uses the dual partition.

zelendel said:
Really. Ask the devs that got the pixel and after that won't touch a device with the partition setup. It makes things almost impossible to get working right. Me, I would just repatriation the device and remove the partition all together.
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Absolutely true, it took months to see a stable release of TWRP for the Pixel. And there's still no official LOS as well.
However there are a few ROMs and more device with A/B are out like PH-1 and Moto Z2

For reals though, devs working on ROMs for this device, feel free to create/list your PayPal accounts for donations.
We ask so much of the devs it's only fair we buy them a drink/meal for all their hard work and persistence!
Sign me up for a donation

zelendel said:
If your waiting for development then you have not done your research. Development devs dont buy from this oem. They even avoid it. The best you can hope for is some of the users porting the roms over but they will most likely be buggy as they always are with this oem.
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You are wrong.. mi phone's has great support on xda..look at rn3,4..and other mi phone threads

sooti said:
I don't think they're avoiding it, it's just taking time to bring up the device tree.. I might dig into it a bit this weekend and try to bring up the device tree to 8.1, the problem is that even in 7.1.2 we don't have everything working. also, Xiaomi did a terrible job with the kernel, took them 4 months to release it and when they did they released an old 7.1.2 based kernel with the commits squashed into one commit over an older CAF tree
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eeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyy od israeli

Lineage ROM support dropped ... what a pity ! Is there an alternative ?

Does anyone know what ROM to install on a LG G6 to keep it safe for at least 2-3 years ?
A few months ago, I bought a second hand LG G6 H870 for its camera quality !
At that time, I thought that I could keep it "updated" at least for safety patches with a LINEAGE ROM beyond "the usual 2-years limit" more or less granted by sellers and Brands.
Unfortunately, Lineage DEV dropped their support for this phone ...
In other words, I was cheated by LG ... and i was cheated by LINEAGE ....
Who's next ?
Help me make sense !

You can use the camera even if you don't have the last update
You can simply use stock rom, debloat it and you will see, it's quite good experience. You can use Gcam also, there is thread with the best version in this forum

Silver Wx said:
You can use the camera even if you don't have the last update
You can simply use stock rom, debloat it and you will see, it's quite good experience. You can use Gcam also, there is thread with the best version in this forum
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Yeah we still have one major update and a few security patches left from LG. It's not like the phone is completely abandoned.
Also, yup this man is right, you can perfectly use GCAM on stock software.

xabzzz said:
Unfortunately, Lineage DEV dropped their support for this phone ...
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What makes you say that?
Lineage 16.0 is currently being developed for all LG msm8996 devices (g5,g6,v20).

askermk2000 said:
What makes you say that?
Lineage 16.0 is currently being developed for all LG msm8996 devices (g5,g6,v20).
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The info is on the official Wiki : https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/h870
Of course, I don't talk about any Lineage roms eventually and unofficially developped on xda ... by a "lone" developper ...
I hate to say so, but if the official Lineage OS (or any other official and alternative ROM to the stock one) is droppred after 2 years, it defeats the purpose .... if the game is to extend the support for expensive gadgets ... and break the commercial practices BRANDS enforce on consumer ....

xabzzz said:
The info is on the official Wiki : https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/h870
Of course, I don't talk about any Lineage roms eventually and unofficially developped on xda ... by a "lone" developper ...
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That page probably says that because in the past G6 was officially supported (I didn't check, but probably Lineage 14?).
Anyway, like I said Lineage 16.0 is being developed. It's not official, but you can't expect it to be when it's not quite ready yet.
Development has been slow on these LG devices. For me personally, on G5, it's not been an attractive option, but it's getting there
and likely will be official when it's ready.
Edit: It's mainly x86cpu which is developing now https://review.lineageos.org/q/owner:x86cpu.
So you see, I'm not talking about all those random roms that are about. Although some of their work probably will help.

Silver Wx said:
You can use the camera even if you don't have the last update
You can simply use stock rom, debloat it and you will see, it's quite good experience. You can use Gcam also, there is thread with the best version in this forum
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Thanks Silver Wx,
You seem to understand very well what is going on with BRANDS such as LG, SAMSUNG, ONEPLUS, APPLE, and whatever **** !
Yes stock rom is a good experience ! Except when security support is dropped after 2 years ...
In case you missed my point, LINEAGE OS "was" a warranty a +3-5 years supported phone ...
What kind of buyer are you Silver Wx ?
Every 2 years, you buy a new phone ?
Go back to school ....

Why are there so few ROMs for the S10+ ?

Hey guys!
I recently bought the S10+ been wondering why there are only 2 custom Roms available.
Normally you have thousands and more after a few month and you can't even decide which one to take.
Greez, skrippi

It's a fairly new device lol

Ok. I normally had the feeling that on other devices it went much faster. But ok THank you!

Compared to OnePlus devices for instance it is true, development starts as soon OnePlus releases a device ( OP7pro for example).

skrippi said:
Ok. I normally had the feeling that on other devices it went much faster. But ok THank you!
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Just read about how root is achieved on S10, then you will get an idea as to why there are so few custom roms.

S10s one ui has everything so why do you want a rom thats gonna be full of bugsand unstable just buy a oneplus if you want roms

kevinireland11 said:
S10s one ui has everything so why do you want a rom thats gonna be full of bugsand unstable just buy a oneplus if you want roms
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Because the roms do mostly have much more features and give you more control over your phone.
Besides my roms used in past have always had a better battery life than the original firmware.

why less custom roms

hii learned people
why now a days less ans less custom roms?. say it for samsung etc. look at our one plus no stable custom roms. i have a fear that after some years our xad must be irrelevant which i really dont want. the best place. i am asking from my heart. other than my profession i used to spend more time on xda before. now a days its becoming less. whch makes me very sad.
thank you
regards
dr.mouli

ayurmouli said:
hii learned people
why now a days less ans less custom roms?. say it for samsung etc. look at our one plus no stable custom roms. i have a fear that after some years our xad must be irrelevant which i really dont want. the best place. i am asking from my heart. other than my profession i used to spend more time on xda before. now a days its becoming less. whch makes me very sad.
thank you
regards
dr.mouli
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We have Resurrection Remix that is stable

There's a few stable OP 8 series Roms. I don't quite understand what you are going on about.

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FreshlyBaked 420 said:
There's a few stable OP 8 series Roms. I don't quite understand what you are going on about.
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the amount of custom roms are getting lesser and lesser every day. we dont even have stable twrp of our one plus. rooting is getting difficult day by day. are we heading for ios scenario
thank you

ayurmouli said:
the amount of custom roms are getting lesser and lesser every day. we dont even have stable twrp of our one plus. rooting is getting difficult day by day. are we heading for ios scenario
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Yes custom Roms aren't what they used to be. There's still options though. We do have stable TWRP on A10, A11 is going to take time. Not everything happens overnight. Rooting isn't hard either really.

The overall OS have improved a lot...

ayurmouli said:
hii learned people
why now a days less ans less custom roms?. say it for samsung etc. look at our one plus no stable custom roms. i have a fear that after some years our xad must be irrelevant which i really dont want. the best place. i am asking from my heart. other than my profession i used to spend more time on xda before. now a days its becoming less. whch makes me very sad.
thank you
regards
dr.mouli
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You can thank the dynamic super partition as the culprit behind this.
This is the real underlying cause of very few custom roms. It's also the cost of the device. many people can't afford a thousand bucks.

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Burt Squirtz said:
You can thank the dynamic super partition as the culprit behind this.
This is the real underlying cause of very few customer roms. It's also the cost of the device. many people can't afford a thousand bucks.
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exactly the base of android os is open source but slowly we are reaching for the closed eco system. unfortunately

ayurmouli said:
exactly the base of android os is open source but slowly we are reaching for the closed eco system. unfortunately
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That's right. I'm flashing roms since my galaxy S1. Ive never had a phone without custom rom. But nowadays stock roms starting to be better an better. Even MIUI is a great rom if you debloat it a lot! Today I'm only rooted with a custom kernel. I don't want to miss OEM feature and just want to have a stable rom! And with OxygenOS we have it!

There are ROMs and there is root, we really don't need twrp.
Root is extremely easy, as is unlocking the bootloader.
Personally I'm not a fan of the dual slot system, I think it just confuses the crap out of people, but what can you do.
I'm coming from a Huawei p20 pro. If you think it's bad here, just check out the "development" over there, and they were thriving not so long ago, now it's just as dead as death over there.
(They actually made a development section for the p40 Pro lol why? )
We'll have development for some time yet and will more than likely be root and development for many years to come.
Plus the developers we have here, a lot of them are self taught so why wait for someone else to do it for you?
Make yourself a ROM..
I've done it before (many moons ago) its a great feeling making a ROM you made yourself that boots, of course if it's a non OOS ROM you'll need twrp but that'll come in due course.
I agree in part that development has declined but we should be grateful for what we do have, which is more than a lot of other devices..
I think partly with 1+ it's because the OS is already pretty damn good, plus OnePlus haven't exactly made it impossible for us to mod things..

I also look at another flagship phone that released this year, almost low to none custom ROMs.

Yes thx, I've been on pixels for the last few years & always on a custom rom. I got kona soon as I could and have been loving it. While I have used magisk modules and custom kernel, this is the first time in a really long time that I've stayed on the stock os. The os has came a long way and am thankful to have kona and wouldn't change it for nothing. I've really enjoyed this device so far. Anyway thanks for sharing and just thought I'd share my thoughts.

ps000000 said:
I also look at another flagship phone that released this year, almost low to none custom ROMs.
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Aye I've done the same, even the pixel seems lacking.
Are we looking at it wrong though? I mean back on the HTC devices I've owned sure I did a tonne of flashing but I usually settled on 1 or 2 ROMs and we do have more than that here, so do we have what we need rather than what we want?
Lol I'm sure we'd all prefer the latter, I would too, but it's something to think about, I mean Paranoid Android is here, sure it's had less updates than an rtx 3090 but it's here

To add to what others are saying... Cooking a ROM is a very time consuming project. Not a lot of people want to spend the time on it anymore. When I first got a smart phone, it was an HTC touch diamond. Windows phone OS. Back then, tons of people were learning to create custom ROMs and mods for them. That has slowly dwindled over time. On Android, ROMs were mostly created to get AOSP ported to most devices. Nowadays, all phones have custom hardware that needs a factory ROM to be useful. AOSP is not very desirable as it is the most basic form of Android with only basic functionality for mostly Pixel phones. Most people are now only concerned with using a debloated stock ROM and rooting for modules etc. This is the norm. I don't think it will change. It is what things have evolved into over time.

Also we can install treble ROMs can't we?
I've talked about this before.
There should be dedicated sections for functional treble ROMs where common issues can be laid bare so they can at least be worked on with specific device owners.
Asking a question about your own device in a treble thread seldom gets an answer.
AFAIK we'd need twrp unless Fastboot can be used? Not sure, have only managed to get one treble ROM to boot back on the p20 pro when I had it unlocked.
Most of it worked if memory serves..I'll give them a whirl next time I Bork my system or i get bored and will make a thread detailing which ones work.

i will never go for huawei
dladz said:
There are ROMs and there is root, we really don't need twrp.
Root is extremely easy, as is unlocking the bootloader.
Personally I'm not a fan of the dual slot system, I think it just confuses the crap out of people, but what can you do.
I'm coming from a Huawei p20 pro. If you think it's bad here, just check out the "development" over there, and they were thriving not so long ago, now it's just as dead as death over there.
(They actually made a development section for the p40 Pro lol why? )
We'll have development for some time yet and will more than likely be root and development for many years to come.
Plus the developers we have here, a lot of them are self taught so why wait for someone else to do it for you?
Make yourself a ROM..
I've done it before (many moons ago) its a great feeling making a ROM you made yourself that boots, of course if it's a non OOS ROM you'll need twrp but that'll come in due course.
I agree in part that development has declined but we should be grateful for what we do have, which is more than a lot of other devices..
I think partly with 1+ it's because the OS is already pretty damn good, plus OnePlus haven't exactly made it impossible for us to mod things..
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never allow us to open boot loader. u cant even root. i sold p30 pro after using it for 3 months. i always come back to android because we can root. other wise iphone is better in all the departments and it has value also. but if android is same as ios i.e closed eco system then who needs it. we do flashing etc because its fun. as a doctor this things makes me feel; good because i do something (rooting etc) which is beyond my profession. which is fun and entertaining

ayurmouli said:
never allow us to open boot loader. u cant even root. i sold p30 pro after using it for 3 months. i always come back to android because we can root. other wise iphone is better in all the departments and it has value also. but if android is same as ios i.e closed eco system then who needs it. we do flashing etc because its fun. as a doctor this things makes me feel; good because i do something (rooting etc) which is beyond my profession. which is fun and entertaining
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Actually I couldn't disagree more.
Point being the OS even without root is still better, still more open and content is still better.
Think Apple TV Vs Shield TV Pro, I can play Wii, GameCube, Dreamcast, arcade, neogeo, SNES, megadrive, Atari, Amiga, spectrum commodore, Amstrad, pc engine, pc games, Android games, can watch any movie, listen to any music, connect any controller (multiple controllers) wired or wireless, have it as a searchable Nas drive in my network, watch IPTV through it.
Apple TV can be used for apps like Netflix, that is it.
No file manager, no emulators, nothing.
iOS is not better than Android, not even close, maybe the camera and that's due to singular hardware.
Also Huawei/ honor devices DID allow bootloader unlocking, I know this as I unlocked my p20 pro they stopped it in July 2018 and then reopened it briefly in late 2018, nothing since.
Before this time it was always open, they partnered with XDA to promote their devices and then when they gathered ground they pulled the rug out from underneath everyone's feet, Huawei are slime, they deserve to be hit financially.
Anyone who bought a p30 or p40 is either not bothered about rooting or doesn't want the latest and greatest hardware (Mali GPU is horrific, Kirin is a joke)
If anyone does buy Huawei, they're contributing to the problem as they're still giving money to a company who went against everything that Android stands for.
There is literally no point of there being a P40 forum or P30. It's not even Android in my eyes.
The only way that will reverse is if people stop buying from Huawei/honor, if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.
Going back to Apple, the only device I like from them is their MacBook Pro simply for it's trackpad as I love the features it offers, but as an OS? No I'm always the phone nor OSX can cut it Vs Windows/Android..
And would you pay £2,500 for the privilege of using their trackpad? No I'd rather buy a top gaming rig.
It'll always be this way, Jesus iOS just got widgets lmfao,, welcome to 2007 Apple, haha.
And you think is better? You must be joking.

SM-T510

Hi all,
Does anyone know what roms are compatible with the Tab A 10.1 2019 version? I see a lot of roms for 2016 version but not for the 2019.
Running stock Nexus, and I don't have any complaints except that you hardly can customize it yourself. I have a bought icon pack but can't use it for example.
Greetings Rick

I've actually just flashed a number of ROM's for this baby in the last few weeks - there are plenty to play with.
I settled on this as I think it was the best overall:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...rom-nexus-stock-2019-galaxy-tab-10-1-t4056233
Have fun.

Thank you for the time to respond Where are you looking for when finding a Rom. Im on Nexus stock aosp based. But there are still some things I would like to see different. As I only use the tab for 1 game. Still chrashes, issues with keyboard. So I don't mind customizing it.
Greetings from Holland

Yeah it's a good tab, for its price. So I'm kinda buffels by the fact that there is hardly one on this forum.

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BoBoRicky said:
Thank you for the time to respond Where are you looking for when finding a Rom. Im on Nexus stock aosp based. But there are still some things I would like to see different. As I only use the tab for 1 game. Still chrashes, issues with keyboard. So I don't mind customizing it.
Greetings from Holland
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There are two other custom ROMs for the T510. LOS 17.1 and a Nexus version based on Android 9. I've been using the Nexus 10 one for months and have never had a crash or keyboard problem. Maybe it is the one game you play that has the problems.

4929york said:
[/COLOR]There are two other custom ROMs for the T510. LOS 17.1 and a Nexus version based on Android 9. I've been using the Nexus 10 one for months and have never had a crash or keyboard problem. Maybe it is the one game you play that has the problems.
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Always a posibility, still i seem to have a habbit of trying stuff out.

Don't know if I should post this under OP but it's in the same line of it. Like I said love to tinker around with software for 10 years ago or something I got a budget phone that in the end would not update Android anymore so that was the moment I came to the conclusion that my model then was a better version of the original. Kinda like in this case, tab a 2016 and 2019 will differ in chipset etc. But tab a is tab a. So I started to go head in and toke a dive into the Android world, met some interesting people including the legendary Mr Carvalho. But... Im not posting this because I like to write or want you to read a book so let's cut to the case, im reading up a bit with customizing etc. Starting where I left off, installing ADB drivers again MTK drivers C++ all that good stuff. But then I kept reading, and correct me if I'm wrong but did you guys crack the code? The sometimes impossible to port source code? Or am I getting that GSI wrong. The software from the OD will be used to power the custom Rom so finding and combining code is almost a thing of the past? I tried to flash one last night to see if it really was that easy. Managed to get the tablet into a recovery bootloop. Installed the Nexus Rom again now the Los version. So I guess I did something wrong I think to know what it whas but before I make a paperweight from it, I think it's better to ask first.
So GSI, restrictions? Things to look for. Is it possible on this device?
Device is Treble ready
Supports A/B Arm
So it should right?
Off topic. This is a question for the Nexus Rom. Why are some Samsung features disabled? Like screen recording. Used multiple now all end up recording 0 or no internal audio. Other Samsung features like the camera, mail service etc. Only thing I'm searching for is the screen recording function with internal sound. Anny way to enable it or an alternative?
Thanks in advance.

BoBoRicky said:
Don't know if I should post this under OP but it's in the same line of it. Like I said love to tinker around with software for 10 years ago or something I got a budget phone that in the end would not update Android anymore so that was the moment I came to the conclusion that my model then was a better version of the original. Kinda like in this case, tab a 2016 and 2019 will differ in chipset etc. But tab a is tab a. ...
Thanks in advance.
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Utter nonsense. The only thing "Tab A" tablets have in common is the name.

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Utter nonsense. The only thing "Tab A" tablets have in common is the name.
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I understand that.

wHEN TO PAY
So I would like to start by saying great job, I agree with house things where set in place in the long run, I would say lets wait on future runs, just because it was future runs that caused an issuee. Either way thqanks for the recommendations but this seems like it will be a judge appointed issue., i appreciate everything but+

I use the Nexus, Android 10, AOSP-based rom from Magedanz. I works great, I tried LOS 17.1 and LOS based Nexus as well, but settled on the AOSP based due to the lack of support of the 400GB microsd I have in my T510 from LOS and the LOS based Nexus rom not able to read my microsd. The AOSP rom read it just fine and was able to format it correctly.