Redmi 4 prime PWM (screen flickering) - Xiaomi Redmi 4 Prime Questions & Answers

Hi all!
Does anybody know, if Xiaomi uses PWM (pulse-width modulation) in this model to manage screen brightness?
I really hate it - my eyes get very tired after using screen with PWM and I haven't found any review with this information so far.
Thank you!

even S7 use this
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/pulse-width-modulation-problem-t3477108

Yep, that's why I hate OLED displays. Samsung has found a way to build one, but hasn't found a proper way to manage its brightness.
Moreover, I created a similar thread in the S7 section: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/samsung-galaxy-s7-pwm-flickering-t3323284 You can see an oscillogram there. That's what I need, but for Redmi 4 prime.
Also, Redmi 4 prime has an IPS LCD screen (not OLED), which means it could have a non-PWM brightness management.

The predessecor Redmi 3 doesn't use PWM-Management as described in http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Xiaomi-Redmi-3-Smartphone.158664.0.html. Maybe it could be an advice about the technique of the display in the Redmi4.

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Think the edge+ is going to have that weird brightness programming issue?

Remember the regular Galaxy S6 edge? How it was about 60-70 cm/knits less bright than the regular S6 at maximum manual brightness in darker environments? This would be a deal breaker for me if this is the case because I like to ratchet up my phone on full brightness and experience all the best color reproduction at the highest contrast. Anyone with the early edge+ units confirm if Samsung did away with this weird programming? Edge+ and Note 5 should be around the same manual max brightness as the regular S6 and S6 edge.
S6 edge+ still has brightness bug
yes the s6 edge plus has the brightness bug. Checked demo units at all major carriers at the mall. Note 5 does not have the issue. Can't believe Samsung still has this problem. I will also pass on the edge plus and the note 5 does not have enough new features to make me upgrade. So I guess it is no new phone for me!
megagodx said:
Remember the regular Galaxy S6 edge? How it was about 60-70 cm/knits less bright than the regular S6 at maximum manual brightness in darker environments? This would be a deal breaker for me if this is the case because I like to ratchet up my phone on full brightness and experience all the best color reproduction at the highest contrast. Anyone with the early edge+ units confirm if Samsung did away with this weird programming? Edge+ and Note 5 should be around the same manual max brightness as the regular S6 and S6 edge.
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cdexpert3782 said:
yes the s6 edge plus has the brightness bug. Checked demo units at all major carriers at the mall. Note 5 does not have the issue. Can't believe Samsung still has this problem. I will also pass on the edge plus and the note 5 does not have enough new features to make me upgrade. So I guess it is no new phone for me!
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I can now also confirm that the "bug" is in place. It has to be intentional, because this is the second time it's specific to an edge variant. Whatever the case, I am going to have to settle for a Note 5. Which is disappointing, because the color selection is generic black or white. I wanted the edge just for that gold color. I am annoyed they couldn't bring the silver variant of the Note 5 to North America at least.
can one of you guys try velis auto brightness and see if that works!!!! im considering this device but i want to make sure I can also use it with out this weird brightness bug !!!
ubuntunerd said:
can one of you guys try velis auto brightness and see if that works!!!! im considering this device but i want to make sure I can also use it with out this weird brightness bug !!!
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I can't answer to max brightness on manual-mode being different between devices.
But do want to let you folks know that max manual brightness will never be as bright as max auto brightness, even when using 3rd party apps such as Lux or Velis.
Just in case ya'll didn't already know.
I know, I've tried.
There are hacks (search my threads for the script I created) to make manual brightness just as bright as auto brightness, but the hack does not work very well.
I have the tmobile variant and it has this bug , very annoying how could they screw this up twice and on the best looking screen display they have ever made
+1 but
Is not a brightness bug. This is our limit I guess due to the curved screen edges...
And is not that bad at all people.
Only for 10% lower????....pfff take it who cares.
But yeah it's surprised me too.....at least they fixed that stupid sharp edges.
If this screen isn't bright enough for someone, they need to go to a doctor immediately.
It's not that it's not bright enough lol, it when max brightness dims when going into a low lighted area even with auto brightness turned off.
I'd have bought the S6 if the screen brightness could be manually adjusted from 0 to 600 nits like any normal phone. The S6 is not as bright indoors as an iphone and apparently despite all the customizations available on Android, this is still not possible.
The Note 5, however, has a bright enough screen that max brightness is as bright as an iphone. The Note 5 has a clearly superior screen to the S6. It's got to be a different panel in terms of quality. Had they made a 128 gb Note 5 I would have thought long and hard about a Note 5.
Samsung stop overthinking this. Unlock the full range of autobrightness regardless of whether we are out in the sun or not.
It's pretty obnoxious that it adjusts the brightness by itself even if it's turned off, it's unbearable if you're outdoors since it dims the screen so much on it's own:\. Is there not a fix?
Can't believe there's no official patch for this. Got a software update this morning and it did not fix it.

Yotaphone 2 display compared to Galaxy S4 / S5 / Xiaomi Redmi Pro OLED

Hi there,
After 3-4 months with my yotaphone 2 I want to share my experiences with it's and other display technologies...
Yotaphone 2 has a very good OLED display. I directly compared it to Samsung Galaxy S4 / S5 and my new Xiaomi Redmi Pro 32GB/3GB version (not to confuse with Xiami Redmi Note 3/4 pro which use IPS LCDs).
S4 / S5 / Yotaphone 2 seem to have the same display panel. Colors and overall image match 99% (they are great). Just the S4 and S5 seem to allow a higher brightness than the yotaphone 2 does. On the other hand yotaphone 2 allows you to go very dark while keeping a good image quality.
Compared to Xiaomi Redmi Pro (chinese OLED) the redmi pro doesn't convince too much. Especially green colors on the redmi pro look somewhat synthetic. Red is OK but not as embracing as on Yotaphone 2. Other colors seem similarily good.
Furthermore (not that much hardware related) yotaphone 2 has a perfect automated brightess control. The best i've seen yet. With S4/S5 and redmi pro I always need to fine-tune in some situations because of auto brightess reacting slowly or brightness going max when not needed.
Maybe someone here or out there on the interwebz cares about comparison of OLED technology displays. They are NOT the same. My opinion:
Most tests / reviews only state that there's LCD and OLED with some of their pros and cons. That's all. But of course there are differences in OLED technologies. Chinese OLED's like that of the redmi pro tend to being not that advanced. They feature sharp image and high resolution but color / black and overall image quality don't match advanced OLEDs like samsung's I would say they reach about 80% of samsung's / yotaphones display quality.
Nice info. Thanks for sharing.
On my side I have to admit that I am deeply impressed with some feautures of my Yotaphone 2, being one the AMOLED display. Although it is not as good as the one I had with my Samsung Note 4, something quite expected, as the other one was one of the top displays with better pixel density and area.
The only complain for the panel might be the maximun brightness that it is also lower to top samsung ones and that the display shows some more reflections that those, making it a little worse on direct sunlight. I also tend to believe that this display tends to be a little more energy conservative than the top Samsung ones, as with a smaller battery, I usually get better screen time than with those Samsung top models (which have a better/bigger screen, but also a bigger battery).
Anyway, it is one of the top displays I've seen.
Best regards,

Adaptive Brightness

Is anyone else having issues with adaptive brightness taking a while to adjust? I am on stock 8.0 with latest security update. When I open the phone it can take 3 seconds or so to apply before I can see the screen.
yes there is a problem, and it is even more irritating for me when in low light room i turn on the screen and it takes 3-4 sec to turn down the brightness
Yes, I have the same issue. Also, my friend has Xiaomi Mi A1 and he also has the same issue. The ambient light sensor responds slowly for some reason. My wife has Redmi Note 4X and its ambient light sensor is much better. Responds instantly when the light changes (e.g. exposing it to direct sunlight). Also, the screen is so much better on the Redmi Note 4X, I couldn't believe. I compared them side by side, and the whites are so white on Redmi Note 4X. On my Xiaomi Mi A1 the white is...yellow, wtf.
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Yes, I have the same issue. Also, my friend has Xiaomi Mi A1 and he also has the same issue. The ambient light sensor responds slowly for some reason. My wife has Redmi Note 4X and its ambient light sensor is much better. Responds instantly when the light changes (e.g. exposing it to direct sunlight). Also, the screen is so much better on the Redmi Note 4X, I couldn't believe. I compared them side by side, and the whites are so white on Redmi Note 4X. On my Xiaomi Mi A1 the white is...yellow, wtf.
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Are you sure night light isn't turned on on your phone ?
there are 2 types of screens used in Mi A1, and apparently one of them is showing yellowish colors like you described. the other one is much better and i am really satisfied with color reproduction even with the blacks (not like amoled ofc but really deep).
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Are you sure night light isn't turned on on your phone ?
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Of course not. It's just that the display on Redmi Note 4X has better color accuracy. Before I thought Mi A1 has identical hardware as Redmi Note 4X, buy it seems that's not the case.
By now the only thing that annoys me on my Mi A1 is this ambient light sensor being too slow. Apart from that, the phone is OK for the price.
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Nikola_zr said:
there are 2 types of screens used in Mi A1, and apparently one of them is showing yellowish colors like you described. the other one is much better and i am really satisfied with color reproduction even with the blacks (not like amoled ofc but really deep).
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I guess I wasn't the lucky one to get the "right" display.
Ok, after I posted this I turned up the brightness to 50% and still have adaptive switched on, it seems to have sorted it. Previously it was on 5% so maybe there is a bug there that is seeing what brightness setting level it is and adjusting that way and taking too long. Try it and see if it helps (or lower from 50%)
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Before I thought Mi A1 has identical hardware as Redmi Note 4X, buy it seems that's not the case.
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Mi A1 has identical hardware as Mi 5x. And you will be able to adjust the colour of the screen if you root (I'm not sure if it will make it better, because I've got the "right' display, so can't test it)
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I guess I wasn't the lucky one to get the "right" display.
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you can check which display is used in you phone by entering specific code in dialer (i cant remember the code :/), there you can see which components are used, 2 sets of different screens, memories and cameras( not 100% sure for this one) are used.
Haizum74 said:
Ok, after I posted this I turned up the brightness to 50% and still have adaptive switched on, it seems to have sorted it. Previously it was on 5% so maybe there is a bug there that is seeing what brightness setting level it is and adjusting that way and taking too long. Try it and see if it helps (or lower from 50%)
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i always keep it on 50% with the adaptive on and the problem is there..
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you can check which display is used in you phone by entering specific code in dialer (i cant remember the code :/), there you can see which components are used, 2 sets of different screens, memories and cameras
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*#*#6484#*#*, under version information, I guess it Tianma since is yellowish.
Sent from my Red Mi A1
NITRO_100 said:
*#*#6484#*#*, under version information, I guess it Tianma since is yellowish.
Sent from my Red Mi A1
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Did it and the app (Factorykit Test) hangs with a black screen on version info. I think all the other options are fine.
Does it work with the phone rooted with magisk with the stock rom+recovery?
Edit- disabling magisk and xposed solved the issue. The rear modules are OV12A10ii and OV13880ii.
barrack1 said:
Did it and the app (Factorykit Test) hangs with a black screen on version info. I think all the other options are fine.
Does it work with the phone rooted with magisk with the stock rom+recovery?
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Doesn't work with Xposed. Disable Xposed, reboot, do the tests and enable it again.

VR/Cardboard quality

Hello everyone,
I enjoy using VR apps on my phone from time to time.
Currently, I own a Redmi Note 3 Pro (Kate) and a Redmi Note 5 Pro (Whyred), and I have to use the RN3 for VR, since the RN5 screen has somewhat a higher latency, which results in nausea and blurry image when moving my head.
I am wondering whether the Mi 9T/Redmi K20 screen offers a good experience for VR.
I know that usually OLED panels are associated with lower latencies, and less screen door effect, and that FHD resolution is not really high, but I was wondering if anyone has tested how Mi 9T/K20 performs in this regards, and is enjoable for really sporadic usage.
Thanks in advance!

Ambient display for Redmi Note 7

Has anyone successful forced enabled ambient display on Redmi Note 7 on MIUI 10/11
If yes can you explain the steps as to how it is achieved
Ambient occlusion is just for AMOLED displays
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dejan1471 said:
Ambient occlusion is just for AMOLED displays
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I know that for most official stock phones that is the case but custom ROMs are able to implement it with much issues so it is possible
Also MIUI 11 codes do have Ambient display feature irrespective of the device as i kind of enabled it in settings but does not work on display

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