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not happy with jelly bean

ok, so few days ago I updated my note to official samsung ota jb release. After updating I did not see much improvement, apps open/close faster, not sure if they actually do or is it just faster animation then there is some blocking mode in the settings which is like a new feature, also virtual keyboard is easier to move around the screen, so this is the good stuff, now the bad.
I have haptic feedback off or I HAD, now everytime time I move icons tablet vibrates, also when shutting down. How do I completely swith it off? also notifications, I have spen detection swithed off, now everytime I remove spen the ugly notification appears informing me i just removed spen and stays in the notifications menu... unnesesary and a waste of screen space?
The notification menu is a mess now, it can now scroll up and down
also when shutting down ugly message appears telling me the tablet is shuting down
also had to download from internet and install additional keyboard language, when previously just had to set it in options and that was all
is it possible to bring back the old look and feel while keeping the new features(the butter thingy and a new keyboard)?

ziprar said:
Is it possible to bring back the old look and feel while keeping the new features(the butter thingy and a new keyboard)?
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No. And a lot of the changes you're referencing are between Android 4.0.4 and 4.1 and have nothing to do with Samsung's implementation of JB. Some features are changed in the OS, Samsung's apps (EG: S Note, the Gallery), and the behavior of some functions, settings, and apps are different too. ICS to JB on the Note was a big overhaul so I wouldn't expect another one during the Note's lifespan; future changes are likely to be simple tweaks. So things that are gone are gone and things we have aren't likely to change significantly. If you want ICS back search on "Odin" and follow the instructions.

Cant I do a factory reset? or my original firmware is no more?

ziprar said:
Cant I do a factory reset? or my original firmware is no more?
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When you update the new s/w becomes your recovery so if you reset it'll still be JB. You can download the ICS version for your region from Samsung-Updates or Samfirmware and install it via Odin.

Reads as a bad update to me unless JB is a special firmware for you .
Wipe phone and as said flash stock rom .
Or contact Samsung service centre .
jje

Its not that a tablet is unusable, everything works fine, its because with ics it was all nice and tidy and now with jb its annoying with its excesive notifications. To me it feels a bit like a step back.

ziprar said:
Its not that a tablet is unusable, everything works fine, its because with ics it was all nice and tidy and now with jb its annoying with its excesive notifications. To me it feels a bit like a step back.
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Do what I did, buy an extra pen and a case that will hold it. Make sure that power saving for pen is disabled,
Use the new pen and leave the old on in it's slot. Since you don't remove it, then it doesn't notify, but all works with the new one

Ive got the case already, but the extra pen idea is sweet, also because the original pen while works well feels a bit cheap and plastic(also too small and too thin and has no eraser).
What pen did you buy?

I have noticed much of a change myself

ok so another thing I just noticed, when opening youtube links in opera (my current browser, also useragent set to desktop) youtube app launches and it tries to display the vid and in case with several music vids Ive just tried it gives me a message saying that user has not made this vid available for mobile users or smth like that. now wtf is this bullcrap? this has never happened while i was on ics and also the same vids used to work both in the browser and in youtube app. now I am seriously considering a downgrade
Ive disabled youtube app and now when opening a link I get a message that no application is available to open it (and then opera still opens it). I guess I need to change file association thing (which app opens which files so basicly disable youtube app opening links) does anyone know how to do that?
edit: also youtube playback stops when switching to other tab
So I have decided to downgrade, now just have to find original firmware and Iam set.

ziprar said:
ok, so few days ago I updated my note to official samsung ota jb release. After updating I did not see much improvement, apps open/close faster, not sure if they actually do or is it just faster animation then there is some blocking mode in the settings which is like a new feature, also virtual keyboard is easier to move around the screen, so this is the good stuff, now the bad.
I have haptic feedback off or I HAD, now everytime time I move icons tablet vibrates, also when shutting down. How do I completely swith it off? also notifications, I have spen detection swithed off, now everytime I remove spen the ugly notification appears informing me i just removed spen and stays in the notifications menu... unnesesary and a waste of screen space?
The notification menu is a mess now, it can now scroll up and down
also when shutting down ugly message appears telling me the tablet is shuting down
also had to download from internet and install additional keyboard language, when previously just had to set it in options and that was all
is it possible to bring back the old look and feel while keeping the new features(the butter thingy and a new keyboard)?
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Wow, some people are never happy, and just need to complain. What about all the other good things, like better multi screen implementation, more apps for multi screen.
Seriously, all those thiings you described are just petty..."also when shutting down ugly message appears telling me the tablet is shuting down:eek".....I really feel for you...must be awful! Come on man, hardly worth getting your knickers in a twist about is it.

ziprar said:
I guess I need to change file association thing (which app opens which files so basicly disable youtube app opening links) does anyone know how to do that?
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You need to "Clear defaults" in each app that you want Android to forget the associations you set.
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Markhypnosis said:
Wow, some people are never happy.
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A couple of people have voiced issues with some of the changes in JB. I share your view; so much is improved that some of Samsung's changes to apps and functions are really minor in comparison. But, look at it this way, some people won't touch a device with an overlay while others swear by them. Different strokes.

You misunderstand, I like updates and I like new things, what I dont like is when features are removed, when I am forced to you use apps which I dont want to use or which dont work (youtube example, alot of music vids are restricted in the app while working perfectly in the browser, haptic feedback, I have it switched off yet the tablet still vibrates when shutting down or when the icons are being rearanged, ok fine but why there isnt a festure to COMPLETELY disable haptic feedback), when completely useless things are added (stupid and more importantly unnecesary notifications eg shutting down, spen removed...)
so yeah bring new and updated firmware not a steaming pile of crap
btw the "clear default" method doesnt work

ziprar said:
so yeah bring new and updated firmware not a steaming pile of crap
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You realize that a large portion of the forum has been on JB since November. There have been very few issues and pages of threads discussing the benefits of the new features. If what you're reporting as problems were affecting a lot of people there would have been more posts about them. Frankly, I don't really understand what most of your problems are based on the way you described them. I haven't had any YouTube issues since updating to JB in November and don't remember seeing any reported. So in describing the update as a "streaming pile of crap" you're kind of on your on in feeling that way.
btw the "clear default" method doesnt work
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It clears app association so it does "work." If it doesn't fix your problem that's another thing. You might want to try a hard reset and start from scratch.

I thought the same thing
JJEgan said:
Reads as a bad update to me unless JB is a special firmware for you .
Wipe phone and as said flash stock rom .
Or contact Samsung service centre .
jje
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I hated jellybean on my galaxy tab 2 7.0. But they did a awesome job of tweaking it for Note 10.1. I get serious battery life. Barely notice jellybean being on it. This tablet is fast and smooth. I love premium suite. I would wipe partition and user data and start again.

s pen
Go into settings and down to s pen, in that menu is an option that says something like change what option when s pen is removed... change it to "nothing"
ps I happen to freaking LOVE this jb update!! It's so great night fast...!

Note 10.1 2014: few steps back? advice on rooting p605?

coming from n8000. Just got my p605 yesterday, disliked some of the things I've seen and wonder if they are common problems faced by others and perhaps solution for them.
1)air view doesn't scroll through pics in gallery or auto preview videos
2) pen window sucks. Is there any way to invoke mini apps like in the older generation note? Why change things when there isn't any problems
3) I'm syncing from my note 2, although it says calendar and s note synced, doesn't appear on my new tablet
4) polaris office 5 does not accept annotation saving on doc or ppt format, only pptx and docx. There is forever something wrong with polaris
5) is there any way to disable air command on a per app basis. For example lecture notes app i would want to use stylus button for changing input method to eraser
6) is there any way to disable s finder when long pressing menu button? I would want Google now to come out instead
7) ezpdf is much laggier and stuttering as compared to using on first gen
8) YouTube experience some stuttering when playing videos
9) weird white lines when using lasso screen cut function, moving the small lasso toolbox
I would need to root it, after reading a lot there doesn't seem to be much support or tutorial for rooting p605.
Is there any way, using cf auto root, which will not break Samsung warranty?
What is it about knox flag and efuse? The only thing i care about is not breaking warranty (or can break but able to reset back counter) and I'm not a business user. I would also like to continue receiving updates on root.
So is there any method which allow me to do it? I've read about universal de something method but it isn't very familiar to me and I'll prefer to stick to older way like cf auto root or odin.
Thank you so much for the time!

2. Install Pen Window Launcher.
6. Open S Voice, go to settings, change the option for home button.

Jasonchewy91 said:
coming from n8000. Just got my p605 yesterday, disliked some of the things I've seen and wonder if they are common problems faced by others and perhaps solution for them.
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It's a very different tablet my friend with very different s/w and approaches. I got rid of my N8000 because I replaced my N7100 with a N3 and the differences between the two (the N2's like the N8000 and the N3's like the N10.1-14) were driving me crazy. There's some stuff on the N10.1-14 that's odd (EG: full screen notification panel, phone UI features on a tablet) but you get used to them after using it a while. For me, there's more than enough benefit to make up for some of the strangeness.
1)air view doesn't scroll through pics in gallery or auto preview videos
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Nope. The gallery's been redesigned and you don't have a choice of views anymore. You can still preview video's in the redesigned video app.
2) pen window sucks. Is there any way to invoke mini apps like in the older generation note? Why change things when there isn't any problems
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I like the new multiview approach better than the old one. The former cascade/dual window approach was kind of schizophrenic. There are a lot more options now (two of the same app, save apps combinations so they open in pairs, and pen window). It's great that I can use the same approach on both my N3/N10.1-14 rather than the different approaches used by the N2/N10.1-12. Some people like the old approach and some like the new approach better. To each their own.
3) I'm syncing from my note 2, although it says calendar and s note synced, doesn't appear on my new tablet
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S Note's format changed and they aren't compatible between the N3/N10.1-14 and the N2/N10.1-12. You need to get a N3.
4) polaris office 5 does not accept annotation saving on doc or ppt format, only pptx and docx. There is forever something wrong with polaris
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C'est la vie. It would be far worse if it were the other way around (.doc worked but .docx didn't).
5) is there any way to disable air command on a per app basis.
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Nope.
6) is there any way to disable s finder when long pressing menu button? I would want Google now to come out instead
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With the last update to Google Search (Now) I was asked which I wanted to be the default, Google Search or S Finder. I use S Finder so I chose that. Try uninstalling the Search updates and reinstall them. Maybe you'll be given the same option I was.
7) ezpdf is much laggier and stuttering as compared to using on first gen
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Probably the app hasn't been updated to natively support 2560x1600 yet. There are only three devices with that resolution: N10, TF701, and N10.1-14. You'll find other apps and games that aren't optimized yet either. Write the developer; most have been very responsive.
8) YouTube experience some stuttering when playing videos
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Mine haven't. Don't know what to tell you.
9) weird white lines when using lasso screen cut function, moving the small lasso toolbox
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I haven't seen it but I haven't done a ton of lasso work yet.

BarryH_GEG said:
It's a very different tablet my friend with very different s/w and approaches. I got rid of my N8000 because I replaced my N7100 with a N3 and the differences between the two (the N2's like the N8000 and the N3's like the N10.1-14) were driving me crazy. There's some stuff on the N10.1-14 that's odd (EG: full screen notification panel, phone UI features on a tablet) but you get used to them after using it a while. For me, there's more than enough benefit to make up for some of the strangeness.
Nope. The gallery's been redesigned and you don't have a choice of views anymore. You can still preview video's in the redesigned video app.
I like the new multiview approach better than the old one. The former cascade/dual window approach was kind of schizophrenic. There are a lot more options now (two of the same app, save apps combinations so they open in pairs, and pen window). It's great that I can use the same approach on both my N3/N10.1-14 rather than the different approaches used by the N2/N10.1-12. Some people like the old approach and some like the new approach better. To each their own.
S Note's format changed and they aren't compatible between the N3/N10.1-14 and the N2/N10.1-12. You need to get a N3.
C'est la vie. It would be far worse if it were the other way around (.doc worked but .docx didn't).
Nope.
With the last update to Google Search (Now) I was asked which I wanted to be the default, Google Search or S Finder. I use S Finder so I chose that. Try uninstalling the Search updates and reinstall them. Maybe you'll be given the same option I was.
Probably the app hasn't been updated to natively support 2560x1600 yet. There are only three devices with that resolution: N10, TF701, and N10.1-14. You'll find other apps and games that aren't optimized yet either. Write the developer; most have been very responsive.
Mine haven't. Don't know what to tell you.
I haven't seen it but I haven't done a ton of lasso work yet.
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Thanks guys for the input!
The Youtube stuttering problem is really getting crazy. Tried reinstalling and no use.
Many of the software changes are really gimmick.
I really can't live without root, and there's still no method of rooting without voiding warranty.
The multi window implementation due to pen window is really annoying.
I'll just have to live with my old note with a slightly inferior screen and weight. Really enjoyed the productivity of my old note.
Most probably selling this new one away.

I too have noticed the stuttering, but it' occured to me that there is a new function on the Tab that they introduced with the Galaxy S4. It is called Smart Pause. If you look away from the tablet, it will stop playing (with a little delay) and if you look back you will catch it while it is paused. I dissabled that and youtube went fine after that...

Nougat Screenshots

anyone who did the nougat update, can you post some screenshots? i am debating whether to do the upgrade or leave well enough alone. one post mentioned that th recent apps window was sub-standard. any other good and bad?

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anyone who did the nougat update, can you post some screenshots? i am debating whether to do the upgrade or leave well enough alone. one post mentioned that th recent apps window was sub-standard. any other good and bad?
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Yeah, I'm curious as well..i want to know if this update is going to be worth it

I did update to Nougat. My use is very limited but I find battery timing much improved and multi window is way better.

first of all - if you're satisfied with your device as it is don't update! It (unfortunately) doesn't get any better. They removed two important features - at least for me. There are no floating apps anymore - so if you want to use the small version of (for example) the google play music player while you're browsing you will have to use the splitscreen with dramatically decreased space for your browser left. So basically this means less convenience for you. The other thing is the (absolutely) useless "recent apps" view. In the past the whole screen was used by displaying the apps as tiles - now you only see them in the (for big tablet screens) useless card view.
Sorry - i always hate it when something really good just gets abandoned and replaced by something far inferior
I also found out, that manufacturers of 10"+ Tablets are encouraged to implement the native Android N freeform mode - so why has lenovo left this out of their update? I hope it gets back on the device with a later update.
P.S.: Android 7.0 CDD states that:
Device implementations with screen size xlarge SHOULD support freeform mode.
In the parlance of this CDD, there appear to be three levels of endorsement: SHOULD, STRONLY ENCOURAGED, and MUST. SHOULD is the weakest of the three, but it is still an endorsement.

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first of all - if you're satisfied with your device as it is don't update! It (unfortunately) doesn't get any better. They removed two important features - at least for me. There are no floating apps anymore - so if you want to use the small version of (for example) the google play music player while you're browsing you will have to use the splitscreen with dramatically decreased space for your browser left. So basically this means less convenience for you. The other thing is the (absolutely) useless "recent apps" view. In the past the whole screen was used by displaying the apps as tiles - now you only see them in the (for big tablet screens) useless card view.
Sorry - i always hate it when something really good just gets abandoned and replaced by something far inferior
I also found out, that manufacturers of 10"+ Tablets are encouraged to implement the native Android N freeform mode - so why has lenovo left this out of their update? I hope it gets back on the device with a later update.
P.S.: Android 7.0 CDD states that:
Device implementations with screen size xlarge SHOULD support freeform mode.
In the parlance of this CDD, there appear to be three levels of endorsement: SHOULD, STRONLY ENCOURAGED, and MUST. SHOULD is the weakest of the three, but it is still an endorsement.
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Thanks buddy. I think I'm better off skipping this update.

Wrong, wrong, wrong
NiffStipples said:
first of all - if you're satisfied with your device as it is don't update! It (unfortunately) doesn't get any better. They removed two important features - at least for me. There are no floating apps anymore - so if you want to use the small version of (for example) the google play music player while you're browsing you will have to use the splitscreen with dramatically decreased space for your browser left. So basically this means less convenience for you. The other thing is the (absolutely) useless "recent apps" view. In the past the whole screen was used by displaying the apps as tiles - now you only see them in the (for big tablet screens) useless card view.
Sorry - i always hate it when something really good just gets abandoned and replaced by something far inferior
I also found out, that manufacturers of 10"+ Tablets are encouraged to implement the native Android N freeform mode - so why has lenovo left this out of their update? I hope it gets back on the device with a later update.
P.S.: Android 7.0 CDD states that:
Device implementations with screen size xlarge SHOULD support freeform mode.
In the parlance of this CDD, there appear to be three levels of endorsement: SHOULD, STRONLY ENCOURAGED, and MUST. SHOULD is the weakest of the three, but it is still an endorsement.
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First of all, updates are really important for android devices in general. And especially for manufacturers like Lenovo which is known to let their product outdated pretty early. Personally, I'm impressed this time they updated to Android N even before schedule, and I'm hoping they continue releasing updates not to let this amazing product die.
As for the features you talk about:
1) floating windows in freeform is natively supported in android N and just need to be enabled in developer options (one of the last entries under App category). You can install "Taskbar" app to launch all of your apps in window mode by using the native method, and resize them as you like by dragging on the bottom-right corner (which previously was not possible).
2) It is true that Task manager with tiles view was a more clean way to switch between apps on this device, but the needing of double-pressing the TAB button when alt-tabbing beween apps, always made it uneffective and uncomfortable to me. Now ALT-TAB switch between apps just flawlessly as in a standard computer. Hence, i'm really happy with that.
3) I find overall performance have gotten slightly better with the recent N update: i can notice that in the UI and in games too! other users on other threads are talking about a slightly better battery performance too, so it seems like they optimized the hardware support somehow.

morrolinux said:
First of all, updates are really important for android devices in general. And especially for manufacturers like Lenovo which is known to let their product outdated pretty early. Personally, I'm impressed this time they updated to Android N even before schedule, and I'm hoping they continue releasing updates not to let this amazing product die.
As for the features you talk about:
1) floating windows in freeform is natively supported in android N and just need to be enabled in developer options (one of the last entries under App category). You can install "Taskbar" app to launch all of your apps in window mode by using the native method, and resize them as you like by dragging on the bottom-right corner (which previously was not possible).
2) It is true that Task manager with tiles view was a more clean way to switch between apps on this device, but the needing of double-pressing the TAB button when alt-tabbing beween apps, always made it uneffective and uncomfortable to me. Now ALT-TAB switch between apps just flawlessly as in a standard computer. Hence, i'm really happy with that.
3) I find overall performance have gotten slightly better with the recent N update: i can notice that in the UI and in games too! other users on other threads are talking about a slightly better battery performance too, so it seems like they optimized the hardware support somehow.
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Thanks for the suggestion of taskbar - i've already tried it before and imho it's just not that convenient as a rom included solution. Beside the fact that you would have to use an unnecessary extra app for a native android function, it's not really intuitive in it's handling - but i have to admit, that every user will see that different depending on their needs My question is just why lenovo hasn't implemented this standard feature in a neat and handy way?
Speaking of different user needs/requirements - i've personally never used the Alt-Tab combi on my tab. In my daily use i use it most of the time in tent mode without the keyboard.
As to the performance - i didn't really noticed a change here. But in my opinion it was already really snappy before the update so maybe i can't rate that improvement. Maybe the animations between app switches got nicer but it's possible that i deactivated them before the update by myself - so nevermind

Guys, can somebody upload Noughat update otapackage?
I do not have a device but i need this to borrow graphic drivers.

After update to Nougat, battery drain in idle status doesn`t happen anymore. After a day idle, it takes only like 1-2% of battery. At least it is worth to me.

Changes in Android O - with screenshots

I got the Android O for my Samsung Galaxy tab S3 here in india. Update size is around 1123 MB.
New features are
1. Experience 9
2. Doldy Atmos enhancements
3. New options to play sound of a particular app on a particular device. Ex : if u have connected a Bluetooth speaker, now u have the ability to select only YouTube audio to be played on Bluetooth speaker.
4. Live messages
5. New notification icons and app icons( I guess part of experience 9 home)
6. Multiple clock faces and colours for clock in lock screen.

That's the S9/S9+ wallpaper. Is that on the device after Oreo or did you put it on your tablet? And if it comes with Oreo is it live like on the S series?

Are there themes? I really really want to have black theme all over instead of blinding white

Well this is my experience:
-Changes mentioned by kmdshoyaib in op
-No themes of course (and i wasn't expecting that)
-The overall experience is smoother than nougat but I have to say many lags and delays specially in samsumg keyboard, and third party apps menus are still there (I did a clean install and factory reset)
-I feel a better response time to S-pen (maybe a placebo effect)
-Other things including batter life needs more time!

how to root T820 oreo?

galaxy4mylife said:
That's the S9/S9+ wallpaper. Is that on the device after Oreo or did you put it on your tablet? And if it comes with Oreo is it live like on the S series?
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Live messages is now available on Tab S3 oreo.
Other than that, I feel the tablet way more responsive now. Reacts faster when playing around with different apps.
Samsung Pass now requries secure screen lock to work with autofill of usernames and passwords. Fingerprint is still a must with Samsung Pass, but in addtion a screen lock also is needed.
Sent from my SM-T825 using Tapatalk

I got it yest night in India too. agree with all the above comments, but disappointed by 1 thing; no change in the SNote/Samsung Notes fiasco
The Dolby Atmos is awesome. I played a song in the dead of the night and, mighty impressed with the improvement. The output from the speakers also had improved. Good thing the AKG speakers have been used and getting a good workout!

Greetings from India, received Oreo update today, and now tab s3 supports VOLTE. Jio VOLTE calls are working now.

And battery life is better?
Enviado desde mi LG-H990 mediante Tapatalk

Supports it adoptable storage or do I have to hack again?

galaxy4mylife said:
That's the S9/S9+ wallpaper. Is that on the device after Oreo or did you put it on your tablet? And if it comes with Oreo is it live like on the S series?
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Well that is just the static wallpaper I downloaded from Android authority.com
It would have been a charm if Samsung included s9 live wallpapers with the update

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Greetings from China...
The s pen translate app also got an update and now it works just like galaxy note 8.
It can translate from Chinese and Japanese now. It can also translate sentences and currency.

My tablet is currently in for repair so have not had a chance to look at the update personally only watched some videos on YouTube about it I was wondering if anyone could have a look and find out if there's a way to change the resolution to save power yet as I do a lot of typing and office work on my tablet and I was looking for a way to down the resolution to 720 p to save a ton of power and was wondering if this has been added with the Oreo update.

Maybe it's because I am a brand new Tab S3 user and updated almost immediately. But all the apps in Play Store that I already paid for are showing up as unpaid. Here is my post about it. Help is appreciated!

Battery life has been fine for me since I got the update yesterday.

corb06 said:
Live messages is now available on Tab S3 oreo.
Other than that, I feel the tablet way more responsive now. Reacts faster when playing around with different apps.
Samsung Pass now requries secure screen lock to work with autofill of usernames and passwords. Fingerprint is still a must with Samsung Pass, but in addtion a screen lock also is needed.
Sent from my SM-T825 using Tapatalk
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Updated last night. The process was easy and error free. The changes are really minor, not anything to write home about. In any case, as Android matures, I would not expect substantial changes from one version to a newer one.

poetryrocksalot said:
Maybe it's because I am a brand new Tab S3 user and updated almost immediately. But all the apps in Play Store that I already paid for are showing up as unpaid. Here is my post about it. Help is appreciated!
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Try to login on a pc to your google account to validate the issue.
On your tab, try to wipe cache, following this steps:
1. Turn off your tab.
2. After that press and hold the Volume Up + Home + Power button for a couple of seconds.
3. Now you should be in the expected mode.
4. You can navigate here by using Volume buttons and select options "wipe cache" by using the Power key.
If this solve your issue don´t forget leave feedback to help other mates.

lukesellwood2 said:
My tablet is currently in for repair so have not had a chance to look at the update personally only watched some videos on YouTube about it I was wondering if anyone could have a look and find out if there's a way to change the resolution to save power yet as I do a lot of typing and office work on my tablet and I was looking for a way to down the resolution to 720 p to save a ton of power and was wondering if this has been added with the Oreo update.
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You even hear of punctuation?

My dear experts,
how downgrade this beautiful tablet to Android 7 Nougat ?????
WRITE, WRITE WRITE also in Italian.

Niki da Trani said:
Android 7 Nougat
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Download Odin3 for Windows PC
Downlaod latest firmware of Nougat 7.0 from 2018 for your region Italy named PDA/AP version T820XXU1ARA2
Downlaod instractions
Downlaod How to flash your Samsung phone?

Request for Samsung Nougat ROM port for P905

Request one of our many gracious and wonderful developers to port a Samsung Nougat ROM for our beloved P905. I understand that porting a One UI based ROM would be very tough because of the deep changes. I hope porting a Nougat ROM from one of the many Samsung Nougat tablets would be a tad more do-able.
I once again acknowledge that our developers have their own lives to lead and priorities in life and are doing us a favor by spending their valuable time to develop ports and Lineage OS based latest android builds for our aging dinosaur.
A Samsung Nougat based ROM would be wonderful for the P905.

chudu1 said:
Request one of our many gracious and wonderful developers to port a Samsung Nougat ROM for our beloved P905. I understand that porting a One UI based ROM would be very tough because of the deep changes. I hope porting a Nougat ROM from one of the many Samsung Nougat tablets would be a tad more do-able.
I once again acknowledge that our developers have their own lives to lead and priorities in life and are doing us a favor by spending their valuable time to develop ports and Lineage OS based latest android builds for our aging dinosaur.
A Samsung Nougat based ROM would be wonderful for the P905.
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Hi Chudu.
What are the Samsung specific features that you're looking for when it comes to One UI or Touchwiz?

Hi shardsx,
By Samsung specific features, I mean mainly the Samsung Touchwiz/Grace UI and the myriad of settings and customization features unique to Samsung firmware.
And as a possible bonus, if the ported ROM is from another S-pen supported tablet/phone, then the included S-pen features would be the icing on the cake.
Developers like Valeria1978 have developed Lineage0S for this aging tablet based on Android 10 and it feels so much lighter on the resources. But inevitably, I find myself going back to the Note 7 ported ROM because I miss the stock Samsung firmware look and features.

chudu1 said:
Hi shardsx,
By Samsung specific features, I mean mainly the Samsung Touchwiz/Grace UI and the myriad of settings and customization features unique to Samsung firmware.
And as a possible bonus, if the ported ROM is from another S-pen supported tablet/phone, then the included S-pen features would be the icing on the cake.
Developers like Valeria1978 have developed Lineage0S for this aging tablet based on Android 10 and it feels so much lighter on the resources. But inevitably, I find myself going back to the Note 7 ported ROM because I miss the stock Samsung firmware look and features.
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Unfortunately it appears that the best path forward is to go with the Lineage OS builds from Valera1978. There hasn't been any other developers taking up the mantle with the P905, so we're only here at Android 10 by the good graces of Valera and his work. This is why I was curious to see if there was something specific to Touchwiz ROMs that appeal to you which could be mimicked in software but allow you to continue using the latest Lineage builds. For example, there's online praise of SPenCommand which is a 3rd party app (outside of Google Play) that recreates TouchWiz's S-Pen functionality for Lineage and AOSP ROMs, (note that I haven't personally purchased or used this software). LectureNotes, which I do use, is a very good note-taking alternative to S-Notes.
Since knowledge emerged on how to fix the S-Pen palm rejection that has been broken since Lineage 15.1, Lineage 17.1 has been my daily driver and working pretty well. I would have liked to stick to Lineage 16.1 as I find it more stable and polished than 17.1 but I cannot get a successful compile of Valera's 16.1 ROM to boot on my tablet.
If anyone can figure that out, I can probably provide a Lineage 16.1 build that:
- enables S-Pen palm rejection
- enables Bluetooth pairing of PS4 DualShock4 controller without the associated nasty input lag

I fully agree with you. I have not tried the Spencommand software, but now that you have mentioned it, I will try to find it and use it.
Apart from the comparative lack of customizability, there are 3 reasons which I find irksome about the 17.1 build.
First is the rotation bug. After a while, the tablet simply gets stuck in portrait mode and only a reboot gets the landscape mode working again.
Secondly, I need to swipe at least 3 or 4 times in order to pull down the quick settings and notification shade and it is extremely slow while it opens out.
Thirdly, I use my P905 a lot for making calls and in spite of trying everything, I'm unable to hear the voice of the person on the other line when on voice calls. I'm forced to use a Bluetooth speaker which is not always convenient.

chudu1 said:
I fully agree with you. I have not tried the Spencommand software, but now that you have mentioned it, I will try to find it and use it.
Apart from the comparative lack of customizability, there are 3 reasons which I find irksome about the 17.1 build.
First is the rotation bug. After a while, the tablet simply gets stuck in portrait mode and only a reboot gets the landscape mode working again.
Secondly, I need to swipe at least 3 or 4 times in order to pull down the quick settings and notification shade and it is extremely slow while it opens out.
Thirdly, I use my P905 a lot for making calls and in spite of trying everything, I'm unable to hear the voice of the person on the other line when on voice calls. I'm forced to use a Bluetooth speaker which is not always convenient.
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The telephony aspect of this tablet is something that I am unable to provide any alternatives. My carrier appears to be incompatible with my tablet so I never looked into this at all.
In terms of the rotation bug, I use an app called Ultimate Rotation Control and manually rotate using its Notification widget. This bug exists with all versions of Lineage OS and this was the only workaround I've found which consistently works.
For the notification shade, this is one area that I think Lineage 16.1 offers a smoother experience. I found that certain apps like Youtube, TunedIn Radio, or any apps that utilizes a background image for its notification card will cause the notification shade to lag. Once an affecting app generates a notification card that causes the stuttering behavior, there's no way to recover other than to reboot. Even if the affecting app is closed, the notification shade continues to be slow and stuttery. The only workaround I've found is to disable all notifications for the affecting apps and then reboot.
In terms of quickly pulling down the notification shade with everything expanded in one go, there is an option in Lineage OS in the Settings app, under System > Status Bar -> Quick Pulldown. Enabling this option will allow a single swipe from the status bar to display a fully expanded notification shade with all the toggles and cards expanded.
I know the biggest problem for you is the telephony and call volume. Unfortunately nothing I have said is going to help with that. I hope perhaps Valera or a new developer may be able to help you. At least I hope my words would help anyone else with similar problems who happens to stumble upon this post.
Lastly, I'd like to share that to get the experience of a fullsize keyboard similar to Touchwiz, Hacker's Keyboard is probably as close as you can get with so little developers producing keyboards that are appropriate for tablets of this size.

Thank you so much for all this information. I will definitely try out the spencommand apk and hacker's keyboard.

chudu1 said:
Thank you so much for all this information. I will definitely try out the spencommand apk and hacker's keyboard.
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Hi Chudu,
I'm afraid to report bad news. I tried SPenCommand downloaded from the developer's page but it doesn't seem to launch on my device using Lineage OS 17.1. If you are going to try and switch ROMs to try this software, please be aware of this potential snag.

Hi shardsx,
Can you provide me a link to the download page? I'll try it out on my weekly off and see if I'm able to launch it.

chudu1 said:
Hi shardsx,
Can you provide me a link to the download page? I'll try it out on my weekly off and see if I'm able to launch it.
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The developer of this app is called @emandt. He had a thread about this app here at XDA.
His website is http://www.emandt.net/Android/SPenCommand/Website/. On this page you can find the download links. This is a paid app hosted outside the Google Store and relies on an in-app purchase to unlock. As I mentioned, this app seems to instantaneously close on me so it seems to do nothing. The author seems to have last updated this app to support Android Oreo or Lineage 15.