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Hey guys,
so one day I was wondering that we should start a thread on the main issues of the Nexus One and Android. I thought it would be nice if everyone posted an issue or an idea that would be relevant to Google to implement on the next version of Android. I've named some (I am on stock FRF91 btw, so some issues may not affect all users):
Nexus One Specific:
-enable custom trackball and led colors notifications without the need to root (there's an app called Trackball Alert by lilHermit [see http://www.appbrain.com/app/uk.co.lilhermit.android.TrackballAlert ] that does exactly what I mean but you need custom roms to use it)
-720p video recording (already achievable with Cyanogen's mod, but could use Google's help with the drivers and to up the overall quality of the video)
-fix multitouch (I know ClearPad 2000 is not very good at dealing with multitouch but there is room for software/driver optimization)
-improve touchscreen subtle delay after touch (again, maybe a ClearPad 2000 issue, not sure about it)
-trackball wake and unlock for non-rooted users (is it THAT hard to implement?)
General Android:
-enable horizontal homescreen without having to use a dock
-improve kinetic scrolling on the maps app (not really an android issue, it's app-specific)
-isolate images and video files of apps from the gallery app (it is really annoying to see completely unrelated pics from apps in the middle of the pics you've taken with ur camera or copied from ur pc)
-remove the ****ty compression from the pictures on the gallery, contact pictures and album covers
-make the gallery 24 bit colors again (it was 24 bit on 2.1, but they screwed up on froyo [even on FRF91])
-improve the music player (much needed)
-add swipe left and right gestures to switch between emails, songs (just like in the stock news app)
-smoother transition between homescreens and smoother launcher (improve overall FPS rate on the system)
-better live wallpaper performance (using LWP generally slows the system down)
-tabbed browsing (like Dolphin Browser), better history and bookmark handling (bookmarks synchronazation with firefox, chrome, safari and maybe even ****ty ie)
-both the gmail and the email apps need an overhaul, 1st: it is SLOW. It takes AGES to open an email with images even on a fast wifi connection. 2nd. threaded view. C'mon one of the great things about gmail are threaded emails but you cant take advantage of it on your android phone? 3rd. UI overhaul.
-itunes-like, offline backup, firmware updating, music, photos and video syncing (ok, I know I'm prolly getting flamed for this one, but I honestly believe that even with all the efforts from Google to make everything clound-based, I still see the necessity of having an offline organization tool)
-custom account sync time (set a schedule for auto syncing contacts, agenda, etc...)
-enable online browsing and managing of apps, music, photos, contacts, call log... all in a single website, like Microsoft wants to implement on Windows Phone Series 7 (see http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/13/windows-phone-live-to-offer-remote-wipe-location-and-sync-for/ )
-Keyboard and Languages:
-tweaks on the keyboard including multitouch support (like the Droid X)
-make the keyboard not take the whole screen (eg. you can see the actual app you're using while typing instead of seeing only the text box - really needed for chatting apps)
-portuguese dictonary (I'm from Brazil, but I mean adding more languages to Android's dictionary) [the OS is already available in portuguese]
-more voice commands (like the iphone) with support for more languages
-Marketplace:
-better looking games and apps (this issue goes much deeper then just the UI)
-isolate the CRAPPS (soundboards, sexy japanese girl wallpapers, 50 cent ringtones, etc) in a different category
-create an approval process (completely debatable, but if it's ever created, it should not ressemble apple's flawed approval process and should not run away from Google's open philosophy)
-improve developer finantial gains with their apps (see: http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/07/05/report-over-half-of-all-android-apps-are-free/ ; http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...gaming-on-android-and-how-openfeint-may-help/ ; http://www.androidcentral.com/can-developers-make-money-android-market-mobilebeat-2010 ; http://nanocr.eu/2010/06/27/googles-mismanagement-of-the-android-market/ )
-find a way of reducing pirated and stolen apps (for example, blocking backing up paid apps: today, users can simply buy an app from the market, back it up using astro or some other tool, then they uninstall it to get a refund then they'll install the backed up app and keep both the money and the app)
-better organisation of cateories and better browsing and searching (search suggestions)
-GODDAMN GOOGLE MAKE THE MARKETPLACE PAID APPS AVAILABLE IN MORE COUNTRIES
-The comment below was copied from Android Central, originally posted by credo on Tue, 07/13/2010 - 12:08, as I thought he had some great insights on the market from a developer's point of view (see: http://www.androidcentral.com/can-developers-make-money-android-market-mobilebeat-2010#comment-47392)
" 1) Being able to purchase an app off the web. The big reason I have for this is marketing -- currently there's no good place for me to link a banner ad or other promotion to. This means the user has to manually search for my app in the marketplace to buy it, or scan a QR code. Not exactly impulse-purchase friendly. This is being taken care of with 2.2, but it won't be something I can rely on for a long time after that (the vast majority of the phones would need to be on 2.2).
2) Better descriptions in the listings. Not even much longer necessarily, but a dedicated changelog space (for example) would be fantastic, especially if it maintained history. Dedicated space to link to a video, or a free/paid version, etc could help a lot.
3) Tagging for the listings ("aquarium", "live wallpaper", "fish", "etc"). Currently, not only am I limited to 325 characters (about 30 of which have to go to my current changelog entry) but that couple of sentences I DO have had better include as many relevant search terms as I can manage! A place to enter a dozen or so tags would go miles to making the description space good for actual description. Come up with a big list of standardized tags and put them in a drop-down to help keep it organized.
4) The ability to respond to comments. I mean really, if I'm the developer let me post comments/replies freely. I'm thinking the eBay feedback mechanism here. It's agonizing to see somebody post a blatantly wrong negative comment and there's nothing meaningful I can do about it.
Personally, I've been doing okay with the market overall, but that's because I've focused on something of a niche with some definite consumer appeal (I've made several live wallpapers, like Silhouette, Galactic Core, City at Night, Aquarium Live Wallpaper, etc. Check here if you're interested.). It IS hard to find things on the market and with only the 325 character description to convey ALL your information, it's hard to explain all your features even when the customer does find your item."
That's it guys, hope you like the idea. Waiting for users input.
EDIT: Mods, please feel free to move this post if deemed necessary. I was not quite sure about where I should post it.
Wow. I like the ideas but to this point Google hasn't exactly been interested in acting upon any request, no matter how obvious, necessary or simple, and that's an ass load of requests. But sure I agree 720p recording and all the rest would be great.
wholeheartedly agree with you on every point...
Google is a few major DUH points from having a relatively perfect OS...some things just make zero sense whatsoever...like not having a simple add button and a check box contact list to send a text to more than one person in the stock app...1.0, 1.1, 1.5, 1.6, 2.0, 2.0.1, 2.1, 2.2 and still this simple feature has not been implemented.
also the music player is ridiculous...seriously...like for real...wtf?
Hey so you're Kittehface.
Good list.
Please add:
-GODDAMN GOOGLE MAKE GOOGLE VOICE/GOOGLE NAVIGATION AVAILABLE IN MORE COUNTRIES.
Granted more countries are having navigation but most Asian countries are still left in the dark.
Launcher pro transitions is so much smoother between home screens, it must be hitting 60 fps easily. Google could easily fix their stock launcher to match it
fiuza91 said:
-both the gmail and the email apps need an overhaul, 1st: it is SLOW. It takes AGES to open an email with images even on a fast wifi connection. 2nd. threaded view. C'mon one of the great things about gmail are threaded emails but you cant take advantage of it on your android phone?
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No threaded view? Uh, what?
fiuza91 said:
-fix multitouch (I know ClearPad 2000 is not very good at dealing with multitouch but there is room for software/driver optimization)
What exactly is wrong with it. i havent had any issues, but other people seem to
-improve touchscreen subtle delay after touch (again, maybe a ClearPad 2000 issue, not sure about it)
same as above
-trackball wake and unlock for non-rooted users (is it THAT hard to implement?)
this is more of a feature. the trackball is pressed easier than the power button, meaning the screen can be turned on by accident and use more battery
General Android:
-isolate images and video files of apps from the gallery app (it is really annoying to see completely unrelated pics from apps in the middle of the pics you've taken with ur camera or copied from ur pc)
This is the fault of the app developer. They need to a) use googles API for external storage and b) they need to put a .nomedia file so it doesnt show up in in gallery or music player
-better live wallpaper performance (using LWP generally slows the system down)
i personally havent had an issue with this either
-tabbed browsing (like Dolphin Browser), better history and bookmark handling
i personally dont think tabbed browsing is that great on mobile devices. i would like a dedicated button to show open windows next to the bookmark button though
-both the gmail and the email apps need an overhaul, \ 2nd. threaded view. C'mon one of the great things about gmail are threaded emails but you cant take advantage of it on your android phone?
AFAIK threaded emails have been there since atleast 1.5. I have it on FRF91 for sure
-enable online browsing and managing of apps, music, photos, contacts, call log... all in a single website, like Microsoft wants to implement on Windows Phone Series 7 (see http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/13/windows-phone-live-to-offer-remote-wipe-location-and-sync-for/ )
This is coming with gingerbread
-Keyboard and Languages:
-make the keyboard not take the whole screen (eg. you can see the actual app you're using while typing instead of seeing only the text box - really needed for chatting apps)
froyo has this in browser, i think other apps have to be updated for this not sure
-more voice commands (like the iphone) with support for more languages
there are a lot of voice commands that work fine with the voice dialer (but they still require manual confirmation)
-Marketplace:
-better looking games and apps (this issue goes much deeper then just the UI)
lol if its about looks then its about UI. Android has already added opengl libraries. devs just need to use them now
-create an approval process (completely debatable, but if it's ever created, it should not ressemble apple's flawed approval process and should not run away from Google's open philosophy)
cant be open AND have an approval process
-improve developer finantial gains with their apps (see: http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/07/05/report-over-half-of-all-android-apps-are-free/ ; http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...gaming-on-android-and-how-openfeint-may-help/ ; http://www.androidcentral.com/can-developers-make-money-android-market-mobilebeat-2010 ; http://nanocr.eu/2010/06/27/googles-mismanagement-of-the-android-market/ )
Just because they are free doesnt mean that there is no incentive to have paid apps on market, people will buy better products. i do agree that they could be better paid for ads though
-find a way of reducing pirated and stolen apps (for example, blocking backing up paid apps: today, users can simply buy an app from the market, back it up using astro or some other tool, then they uninstall it to get a refund then they'll install the backed up app and keep both the money and the app)
This is already implemented......
-The comment below was copied from Android Central, originally posted by credo on Tue, 07/13/2010 - 12:08, as I thought he had some great insights on the market from a developer's point of view (see: http://www.androidcentral.com/can-developers-make-money-android-market-mobilebeat-2010#comment-47392)
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2) Better descriptions in the listings. Not even much longer necessarily, but a dedicated changelog space (for example) would be fantastic, especially if it maintained history. Dedicated space to link to a video, or a free/paid version, etc could help a lot.
dedicated changelog space is provided in the version area of the market. most devs dont know how to use it though =/
4) The ability to respond to comments. I mean really, if I'm the developer let me post comments/replies freely. I'm thinking the eBay feedback mechanism here. It's agonizing to see somebody post a blatantly wrong negative comment and there's nothing meaningful I can do about it.
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agree with most of the points though
trackball wake and unlock for non-rooted users (is it THAT hard to implement?)
this is more of a feature. the trackball is pressed easier than the power button, meaning the screen can be turned on by accident and use more battery
- True, but we should be one to decide that right? At least give us the choice.
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-horizontal homescreen (you can have it with custom launchers, but would be nice to see Google implementing it with some cool transitions)
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Horizontal homescreen is already in stock standard android 2.2. Without any custom launcher. It is just that you need to dock the N1 in the car dock, before it will activate. Point is - it is there - issue is that you cannot activate it outside the car dock.
4) You CAN post comments on your own application and you have been able to on every version of android. It's a bit messy but it works:
Firstly, log in to your google account on your phone and try to purchase your own application. It should say something about it failing. Then, close and re-open the market, navigate to your app and, hey-presto, you can comment
I noticed that most of your points are not "issues" but "suggestions for improvement".
If so please change the post title.
Paul22000 said:
No threaded view? Uh, what?
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There's threaded view on the Gmail app, but not on th email app. I know threaded view is something from Gmail but it would be nice if implemented on the email app (I don't know if requires any server-based modification so I don't know if it's possible)
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Horizontal homescreen is already in stock standard android 2.2. Without any custom launcher. It is just that you need to dock the N1 in the car dock, before it will activate. Point is - it is there - issue is that you cannot activate it outside the car dock.
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You're right. Edited my post.
Meltus said:
4) You CAN post comments on your own application and you have been able to on every version of android. It's a bit messy but it works:
Firstly, log in to your google account on your phone and try to purchase your own application. It should say something about it failing. Then, close and re-open the market, navigate to your app and, hey-presto, you can comment
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Don't you think there should be a way of doing it "natively"? I'm sure it would help devs out a lot.
britoso said:
I noticed that most of your points are not "issues" but "suggestions for improvement".
If so please change the post title.
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You're right. Call me an idiot but I can't see any way of changing the thread title. And, "suggestions for improvement" suggest there's something not quite right about whatever, so it is an issue nonetheless.
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You're right. Call me an idiot but I can't see any way of changing the thread title.
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Click Edit, then change the title.
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In any case, the only issues I see with the Nexus One are the touch screen is terrible (have to turn off/on to recalibrate lower right corner of screen; multi-touch axes snap together) and the four soft buttons are not aligned correctly with their respective labels.
Other than those two, the Nexus One is downright amazing in my eyes. Everything else is software, which can and will be fixed over time, either by Google or by developers like Cyanogen. ie Nexus One first to receive 2.2, probably the first to receive Gingerbread etc.
Aside from the touch screen being subpar, almost everything else you mentioned is more of a suggestion rather than an issue, as britoso mentioned.
I'm not sure if they can even fix the screen issues with the nexus one. Because I don't really see anything wrong with the phone except for the horrible touchscreen.
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Mokurex said:
trackball wake and unlock for non-rooted users (is it THAT hard to implement?)
this is more of a feature. the trackball is pressed easier than the power button, meaning the screen can be turned on by accident and use more battery
- True, but we should be one to decide that right? At least give us the choice.
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lol if we had a choice for every little setting in android, then we would be flooded with the amount of settings available in the ROM. people are already complaining about how you have to have a "PhD in Computer Science" (i call BS. I only have a bachelors in SE ) to use android...adding more options will make people think WTF
most people want someone else to take care of everything for them and give them a product that "just works" (i hate you steve jobs)
Paul22000 said:
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I had already clicked edit, but I can't change the title.
By the way, thanks for the input everyone! This is part of what makes a community like XDA great.
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I had already clicked edit, but I can't change the title.
By the way, thanks for the input everyone! This is part of what makes a community like XDA great.
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make sure you not hittin quick edit lol. it should be under title
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make sure you not hittin quick edit lol. it should be under title
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Found it. I had to click "edit post" twice actually. I know that me not being able to change a simple title sounded noob, but I was just blind or something lol
logger said:
Horizontal homescreen is already in stock standard android 2.2. Without any custom launcher. It is just that you need to dock the N1 in the car dock, before it will activate. Point is - it is there - issue is that you cannot activate it outside the car dock.
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Can someone write application to emulate that the phone is in car dock without physically being in the dock?, this will enable the horizontal stock features
Has anyone else run into this problem? Care to list such apps?
Google Music's interface is much different on the Note than it is on an S2 (at least for me). Where on the S2 artists, albums, etc are displayed in a long list of names, on the Note they are displayed in a long list of thumbnails of the artist, album, etc. This layout would make sense on a full size tablet and horizontal scrolling but it is very inefficient on the Note. Also much more taxing on the hardware (not that the Note is lacking in this department though). I would much prefer the S2's layout to quickly find an artist or scroll through the list.
Swiftkey X gives a warning when installed saying the phone version is incorrect for this device (the Note), use the tablet version. However, skipping the warning is not detrimental and the phone version works perfectly on the Note (have not tried the tablet version).
I assume this has to do with the resolution of the Note and apps confusing it as a Full Size Tablet. Anybody else seen this problem? On what apps? Workarounds?
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Has anyone else run into this problem? Care to list such apps?
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I don't know if it's a 'problem'.
I don't necessarily like it with certain programs (some games are a bit painful to play), but I don't consider it a bug or anything.
It's a matter of detected screen resolution and how the app decides to use it. I don't see any workaround for it, unlike windows where you can use a selected resolution.
It would be nice for there to be an option to set screen resolution.
I imagine there are some people interested in the note because they want the larger size (larger icons/text/buttons/etc) but not necessarily the higher resolution. You can't always set that.
- Frank
it has full tablet resolution so it should run like that
kromosto said:
it has full tablet resolution so it should run like that
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Ya, I know. But for some apps it really is not optimal. Just trying to get a feel for how many apps are going to encounter this "problem" (for lack of a better word).
Use spare parts to make the adjustment
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Plume thought that my note was a tablet. However the support team gave me a corrected version and said that it will be sorted in their next release
i'm really interested in this e-reader.
i was about to seal the deal with a kindle touch but saw the android support for this e-reader, and me being the android dude i am (samsung galaxy s2) i HAD to give this a shot.
quite briefly: i have a lot of pdf's already, and NEED good pdf support, or at least a good way to convert them to a good readable format.
also, I know with android I can use Google docs, Gmail, etc. how is typing on this thing? I have a great ics multi touch keyboard, would it work on the rooted nook?
oh and how much does android effect on battery life?
is this is e-reader for me?
Out of the box it has pdf support but not necessarily the best support. Here is a review with a video showing stock and rooted nook abilities with pdfs.
http://www.the-ebook-reader.com/nook-pdf-review.html
once you have it rooted you have the market to test a lot of different pdf programs. Probably is going to depend on what your looking at. i personally convert all of my pdfs to epubs with calibre. Every so often one doesn't format right but the majority are readable. I've been happy with this reader. I have a 6in eclair eink tablet which is pretty awesome.
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thanks for the response, it seems a rooted nook touch will be able to do quite a lot, I updated the first post to reflect my typing and battery concerns.
Hercules was here
For typing, I use my Nook to take notes on during class. It took a little bit of getting used to, but it's not that bad.
darkness122 said:
[...] i was about to seal the deal with a kindle touch but saw the android support for this e-reader, and me being the android dude i am (samsung galaxy s2) i HAD to give this a shot.
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You will be able to do more than with a stock NOOK or Kindle, but don't expect too much. I've had mine rooted for about a month now, and have found that it offers a few more options that work very well as a reader with a few goodies added.
quite briefly: i have a lot of pdf's already, and NEED good pdf support, or at least a good way to convert them to a good readable format.
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I tried the readers, and they do work. I settled on Repligo. That said, these readers are definitely not designed for a device with an eInk screen and lacking multitouch. You can read a PDF, but there is a lot of flickering.
also, I know with android I can use Google docs, Gmail, etc. how is typing on this thing? I have a great ics multi touch keyboard, would it work on the rooted nook?
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Be aware that it runs Android 2.1, so many apps do not work. I'm using Maildroid for corporate Exchange, Google and IMAP email, and find it works very well. My favorite, Enhanced Email, will not run on this device. I found that Smart Keyboard Pro with a high-contrast display (black letters on white background) works with minimal flicker. Prediction does not work. Any keyboard animation generates a lot of flicker, which I don't like. Auto-prediction does not work correctly -- suggestions do not display -- so I've had to disable most of the automatic correction features. It does work well, though, once I get used to "typewriter" (all manual) mode.
oh and how much does android effect on battery life?
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That's up to you. With wifi off and allowed to sleep normally, it sips battery life. After extended testing, I find that it consumes something like 0.1% battery per hour. With wifi and screen on and in use, consumption goes to 4-8% per hour. If you load it up with widgets, background polling and the like, battery life will be very disappointing. Again, don't think of it as a feature-laden tablet. I've used Tasker to only enable wifi when a few specific apps are running, and to disable it when they exit, or the screen goes off. I'm good for at least several days, and I suspect a week or more before charging is required. It's hard to gauge, because every time I plug it in to USB to sideload content, it charges up so quickly.
is this is e-reader for me?
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No. It's MINE!
bobstro said:
I settled on Repligo. That said, these readers are definitely not designed for a device with an eInk screen and lacking multitouch. You can read a PDF, but there is a lot of flickering.
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There are eink-optimized pdf readers, like ---
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186949
--- that incorporates partial freshes, significantly reducing flickering. The URL has links for the freeware; there is also a version on the market that makes better of our hardware, for a very low price (no, I'm not the developer!)
Be aware that it runs Android 2.1, so many apps do not work. I'm using Maildroid for corporate Exchange, Google and IMAP email, and find it works very well. My favorite, Enhanced Email, will not run on this device. I found that Smart Keyboard Pro with a high-contrast display (black letters on white background) works with minimal flicker. Prediction does not work. Any keyboard animation generates a lot of flicker, which I don't like. Auto-prediction does not work correctly -- suggestions do not display -- so I've had to disable most of the automatic correction features.
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Just to clarify: Auto-prediction does work on some apps. In fact I wrote an app (for generic 2.1+ devices) that calls the most basic auto-complete macros and it works like a charm on NST, so there is likely to be an issue with how a specific app was implement.
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I'm using Maildroid for corporate Exchange, Google and IMAP email, and find it works very well. My favorite, Enhanced Email, will not run on this device.
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I just use the gmail app and it doesn't give me any problems, works the same as it does on my E4GT
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in all honesty, i never planned on buying my books via kindle or b&n so it really came down to the hardware itself for me.
simply put, after much research, the two are basically identical hardware wise (no sound on the nook but whatever i dont need it) and the fact that I can further customize a bit with android just put the nook touch over for me.
im gonna do a 2-3 hour charge, then root this badboy right away. im assuming this is the latest n greatest way to root our ebook atm?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351719
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im assuming this is the latest n greatest way to root our ebook atm?
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It's not, actually. The author of TouchNooter made a comparison of the different rooting methods here. Ignore the TorimuNooter in that list, as it doesn't exist anymore.
ok, so few days ago I updated my note to official samsung ota jb release. After updating I did not see much improvement, apps open/close faster, not sure if they actually do or is it just faster animation then there is some blocking mode in the settings which is like a new feature, also virtual keyboard is easier to move around the screen, so this is the good stuff, now the bad.
I have haptic feedback off or I HAD, now everytime time I move icons tablet vibrates, also when shutting down. How do I completely swith it off? also notifications, I have spen detection swithed off, now everytime I remove spen the ugly notification appears informing me i just removed spen and stays in the notifications menu... unnesesary and a waste of screen space?
The notification menu is a mess now, it can now scroll up and down
also when shutting down ugly message appears telling me the tablet is shuting down
also had to download from internet and install additional keyboard language, when previously just had to set it in options and that was all
is it possible to bring back the old look and feel while keeping the new features(the butter thingy and a new keyboard)?
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Is it possible to bring back the old look and feel while keeping the new features(the butter thingy and a new keyboard)?
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No. And a lot of the changes you're referencing are between Android 4.0.4 and 4.1 and have nothing to do with Samsung's implementation of JB. Some features are changed in the OS, Samsung's apps (EG: S Note, the Gallery), and the behavior of some functions, settings, and apps are different too. ICS to JB on the Note was a big overhaul so I wouldn't expect another one during the Note's lifespan; future changes are likely to be simple tweaks. So things that are gone are gone and things we have aren't likely to change significantly. If you want ICS back search on "Odin" and follow the instructions.
Cant I do a factory reset? or my original firmware is no more?
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Cant I do a factory reset? or my original firmware is no more?
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When you update the new s/w becomes your recovery so if you reset it'll still be JB. You can download the ICS version for your region from Samsung-Updates or Samfirmware and install it via Odin.
Reads as a bad update to me unless JB is a special firmware for you .
Wipe phone and as said flash stock rom .
Or contact Samsung service centre .
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Its not that a tablet is unusable, everything works fine, its because with ics it was all nice and tidy and now with jb its annoying with its excesive notifications. To me it feels a bit like a step back.
ziprar said:
Its not that a tablet is unusable, everything works fine, its because with ics it was all nice and tidy and now with jb its annoying with its excesive notifications. To me it feels a bit like a step back.
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Do what I did, buy an extra pen and a case that will hold it. Make sure that power saving for pen is disabled,
Use the new pen and leave the old on in it's slot. Since you don't remove it, then it doesn't notify, but all works with the new one
Ive got the case already, but the extra pen idea is sweet, also because the original pen while works well feels a bit cheap and plastic(also too small and too thin and has no eraser).
What pen did you buy?
I have noticed much of a change myself
ok so another thing I just noticed, when opening youtube links in opera (my current browser, also useragent set to desktop) youtube app launches and it tries to display the vid and in case with several music vids Ive just tried it gives me a message saying that user has not made this vid available for mobile users or smth like that. now wtf is this bullcrap? this has never happened while i was on ics and also the same vids used to work both in the browser and in youtube app. now I am seriously considering a downgrade
Ive disabled youtube app and now when opening a link I get a message that no application is available to open it (and then opera still opens it). I guess I need to change file association thing (which app opens which files so basicly disable youtube app opening links) does anyone know how to do that?
edit: also youtube playback stops when switching to other tab
So I have decided to downgrade, now just have to find original firmware and Iam set.
ziprar said:
ok, so few days ago I updated my note to official samsung ota jb release. After updating I did not see much improvement, apps open/close faster, not sure if they actually do or is it just faster animation then there is some blocking mode in the settings which is like a new feature, also virtual keyboard is easier to move around the screen, so this is the good stuff, now the bad.
I have haptic feedback off or I HAD, now everytime time I move icons tablet vibrates, also when shutting down. How do I completely swith it off? also notifications, I have spen detection swithed off, now everytime I remove spen the ugly notification appears informing me i just removed spen and stays in the notifications menu... unnesesary and a waste of screen space?
The notification menu is a mess now, it can now scroll up and down
also when shutting down ugly message appears telling me the tablet is shuting down
also had to download from internet and install additional keyboard language, when previously just had to set it in options and that was all
is it possible to bring back the old look and feel while keeping the new features(the butter thingy and a new keyboard)?
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Wow, some people are never happy, and just need to complain. What about all the other good things, like better multi screen implementation, more apps for multi screen.
Seriously, all those thiings you described are just petty..."also when shutting down ugly message appears telling me the tablet is shuting down:eek".....I really feel for you...must be awful! Come on man, hardly worth getting your knickers in a twist about is it.
ziprar said:
I guess I need to change file association thing (which app opens which files so basicly disable youtube app opening links) does anyone know how to do that?
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You need to "Clear defaults" in each app that you want Android to forget the associations you set.
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Markhypnosis said:
Wow, some people are never happy.
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A couple of people have voiced issues with some of the changes in JB. I share your view; so much is improved that some of Samsung's changes to apps and functions are really minor in comparison. But, look at it this way, some people won't touch a device with an overlay while others swear by them. Different strokes.
You misunderstand, I like updates and I like new things, what I dont like is when features are removed, when I am forced to you use apps which I dont want to use or which dont work (youtube example, alot of music vids are restricted in the app while working perfectly in the browser, haptic feedback, I have it switched off yet the tablet still vibrates when shutting down or when the icons are being rearanged, ok fine but why there isnt a festure to COMPLETELY disable haptic feedback), when completely useless things are added (stupid and more importantly unnecesary notifications eg shutting down, spen removed...)
so yeah bring new and updated firmware not a steaming pile of crap
btw the "clear default" method doesnt work
ziprar said:
so yeah bring new and updated firmware not a steaming pile of crap
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You realize that a large portion of the forum has been on JB since November. There have been very few issues and pages of threads discussing the benefits of the new features. If what you're reporting as problems were affecting a lot of people there would have been more posts about them. Frankly, I don't really understand what most of your problems are based on the way you described them. I haven't had any YouTube issues since updating to JB in November and don't remember seeing any reported. So in describing the update as a "streaming pile of crap" you're kind of on your on in feeling that way.
btw the "clear default" method doesnt work
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It clears app association so it does "work." If it doesn't fix your problem that's another thing. You might want to try a hard reset and start from scratch.
I thought the same thing
JJEgan said:
Reads as a bad update to me unless JB is a special firmware for you .
Wipe phone and as said flash stock rom .
Or contact Samsung service centre .
jje
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I hated jellybean on my galaxy tab 2 7.0. But they did a awesome job of tweaking it for Note 10.1. I get serious battery life. Barely notice jellybean being on it. This tablet is fast and smooth. I love premium suite. I would wipe partition and user data and start again.
s pen
Go into settings and down to s pen, in that menu is an option that says something like change what option when s pen is removed... change it to "nothing"
ps I happen to freaking LOVE this jb update!! It's so great night fast...!
Everyone should be getting their phone in the next few days. I am coming from iOS so I am not 100% sure about all of androids apps and features. I have spent a lot of time in the last month learning as much as I could about switching over but I would like to get some opinions from everyone. I hope this will also help any other novice users get the most out of the note 3.
1. Are you going to use a launcher .. if so which one? why?
2. What apps will make using the note more enjoyable/easier?
3. What apps can I wow people with a demo of?
4. Any other general app recommendations?
5. What general settings should I initially use? or disable?
6. Anything I missed for a first time android user?
1) NEXT Launcher 3D
2) NEXT Launcher 3D
3) NEXT Launcher 3D's "Swing with Scroll" feature
Impuls3101 said:
Everyone should be getting their phone in the next few days. I am coming from iOS so I am not 100% sure about all of androids apps and features. I have spent a lot of time in the last month learning as much as I could about switching over but I would like to get some opinions from everyone. I hope this will also help any other novice users get the most out of the note 3.
1. Are you going to use a launcher .. if so which one? why?
2. What apps will make using the note more enjoyable/easier?
3. What apps can I wow people with a demo of?
4. Any other general app recommendations?
5. What general settings should I initially use? or disable?
6. Anything I missed for a first time android user?
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Welcome aboard! Here's the first thing you'll have to deal with: Size. The Note 3 (I have a Note 2) will seem huge and you may get buyer's remorse. Most of us do. It wears off in a couple of days, though and then you'll wonder how you dealt with such a small phone.
1. I use Apex launcher. Why do I use a launcher? Because I like to change the number of rows/columns from the standard setting. I also like to eliminate the Google search bar. And, I like using gestures to go to apps. I use swipe-up for Google Now and swipe-down for notification shade. Why do I use Apex instead of others? No particular reason but it seemed to have the most available features for a free version at the time. I have since paid for it.
2, There are a bazillion apps. But, coming from the iPhone I would first experiment with keyboard replacements. Why? Because you can and the iphone users can't. Try Swype or Swiftkey. Swiftkey is amazing at guessing what your next word will be. Most of all, get used to swiping instead of typing. Once you get good at it it's MUCH faster than typing. Then show that off to your iPhone buddies and say, "Take that!"
3. If you really want to dazzle people with your new phone find a high def YouTube video (the Vevo ones are good). Playing a beautiful video on a large screen has some really powerful WOW! factor.
4. Some apps I use a lot:
Color Note - A great note and checklist app that syncs via the cloud.
Chrome Beta
Flixter for getting movie times and watching trailers
Gas Buddy to find cheap gasoline
Amazon App store. A free app every day. You have to side load it, it's not in the Play Store.
Droid of the Day - A new app suggestion every day
Timely - One of the most beautiful alarm clock apps. It also syncs with all your devices
The usual apps: Netflix, Pandora, Watch ESPN, HBO Go, Dropbox, et al.
5. I turn off Auto display brightness. I leave my Note 2 at full brightness all the time. The battery can handle this just fine.
I leave GPS, Wifi, and NFC on all the time.
Make sure you setup Google+ to automatically upload your photos
6. Don't go too crazy downloading apps. You may find your battery suddenly draining too fast. If you don't like or use an app delete it immediately so it won't eat battery.
Good luck and have fun.
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1. Are you going to use a launcher .. if so which one? why?
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Nova Prime because it is better than TW in every way.
Ok I will answer some of my own questions from using the device the last 10 or so hours I hope this helps someone else. Please add suggestions because I am still getting used to everything.
1. Nova launcher seems to be easier to use because it takes all ur tw settings and imports them. It makes it easy to switch between the two. I like the tw weather widget better though
2. -I still need to find a good email client that syncs the few accounts that I have together. I haven't looked into this yet.
-Equalizer is a really good app to put more bass or customize the sound of your music.
-Adblock plus is really nice to have while browsing the internet .. I always hated that I couldn't use it on the iphone.
-The adapt sound settings helped make my headphones sound a little better. I use an aux in on my car so it kind of sucks that they don't have profiles for different sources.
3. -Next Launcher is really nice to show people but I don't know if I could use it everyday and its 3x the price of other launchers.
-Real Racing 3 is a nice demo game but good old angry birds star wars 2 probably looks the best and it has a note 3 achievement
-slow mo camera is really nice but anything less than 1/2 speed and the image starts to look very grainy .. 4k really has a wow factor even on the 1080p screen.
4. Sketchbook for Galaxy is a lot of fun to draw in with the s-pen.
5. -I followed this guide for disabling some of the bloatware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2478448
-I also disabled most of the air hover features because they are nice for demoing the device to someone but I probably won't use them. Plus I wear glasses and it doesn't seem to detect my eyes very well.
-People are reporting poor wifi and one of the settings suggested is to turn off network auto connect.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472779 .. I experienced the problem but reset my router and it seems fine now.. not sure if its a software glitch or what.
6. -Here is a useful guide on how to transfer your contacts : http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/transfer-iphone-contact-to-android/
-The only thing I am missing from iOS are the nice lock screen notifications. If anyone has a suggestion please let me know
Impuls3101 said:
Everyone should be getting their phone in the next few days. I am coming from iOS so I am not 100% sure about all of androids apps and features. I have spent a lot of time in the last month learning as much as I could about switching over but I would like to get some opinions from everyone. I hope this will also help any other novice users get the most out of the note 3.
1. Are you going to use a launcher .. if so which one? why?
2. What apps will make using the note more enjoyable/easier?
3. What apps can I wow people with a demo of?
4. Any other general app recommendations?
5. What general settings should I initially use? or disable?
6. Anything I missed for a first time android user?
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1. I have been using Nova for a while on my Galaxy Nexus, and use it on my N3 now too. It's not too bloated, allows custom number of icons per row/column, gestures, and resize all widgets. I used to use Apex, and that was really good too, but I switched a while ago to Nova because there was some feature Apex didn't have, though honestly I don't remember what now, and they may very well have added it.
2. SketchBook Mobile by Autodesk (makers of AutoCAD and Inventor, among many other engineering-oriented programs) is kind of cool, it's a sketch program that you can do a lot with, and works well with the stylus. Not the most useful app, per se, but a fun "proof of concept" if you will, and it's free. I believe there's more options than the built in equivalent, though I haven't used either a ton yet.
3. Any high def media will look awesome. Show them Netflix streaming, or as someone else said, HD Youtube, or any other HD video. Even pictures taken with the camera look great, simply because of the huge high res screen. Pictures taken with the phone probably would look even better on the screen than ones taken with another phone with a better camera but worse screen, because it's still small enough to cover up minor imperfections, but big and crisp enough to really look amazing.
4. For a music player, I like PowerAmp. It's got a really good equalizer, and a ton of settings to play with. Honestly, I'm not a big fan of the interface, but it's not awful. You can also customize the widget as much as you want, in terms of colors, fonts, transparency, buttons, size, what's displayed, etc.
I also use UberSync for Facebook, which lets you use sync HD pictures from facebook as contact photos. You can also import birthdays into your calendar, if you want, and some other info from people's profiles. You can choose what resolution to use, how often to sync, and only use wi-fi if you want.
5. I turned off all of the Smart features and that kind of thing. I don't want to control my phone with my eyes or hand gestures, I want to use it with my hands or S Pen. Of course that's fully a matter of preference. Also I noticed that the setting to alert you if you walk away without putting the S Pen back in is disabled by default, so I enabled that. I still worry I'm going to lose it sometime, but that's just because I'm forgetful.
Impuls3101 said:
-Adblock plus is really nice to have while browsing the internet .. I always hated that I couldn't use it on the iphone.
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How are you using Adblock without root??
jmorton10 said:
How are you using Adblock without root??
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I'm using Firefox with the adblock plugin and its working great. Firefox now flies on this phone.:good: