Stock MMS: Heavily compressed GIFs - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers

I've used stock mms before in the past, but not for long as it was slow and clunky (note 4). I have since gotten this phone and rather like stock texting as it works with themer.
Imagine my shock to find stock messenger SEVERELY compresses any gif I send, regardless of size. It turns the video into unwatchable, potato quality.
I've looked into text settings, I think. I can't find any way to fix this. Do any of you fine members here have a solution? I'd like to not have to use s third party app

I'm beginning to think this is a dead phone with no more support or development....

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No, seriously, does anybody have this ****ing phone anymore? This is a simple question

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xperia compatible SKYFIRE 0.9.0.9151

works fine on my device and on the htc HD without the need for wvgafix3
enjoy
direct cab download
http://get.skyfire.com/
the graphics looks scaled up from wqvga 400x240. why? maybe to save bandwidth?
i don't think you're allowed to post that, from what I understand skyfire have been complaining about copyright infringement.
Unless of course they've released it already that is..
i removed it i dont want to get into truble.
get it from here .9.0.9151
http://get.skyfire.com/
scrolling not as smooth as in opera. youtube video playback is a little laggy.
I really liked it. Much faster than Opera for me and the flash support is pretty good. Im looking forward to the next release for sure.
I gave it a try on my xperia TouchIT 3.5 RC1, i didn't find it good: no easy zoom, laggy youtube, and blurred text.
for now i'll stick with Oper...
I prefer Opera as well. There was much talk about this and was expecting way more. Unless you zoom in, everything is blurry (so how am i suppose to know whether I want to zoom in or not), it's laggy and just like opera it does not work with certificates. So I am sticking with opera for everyday browsing and internet explorer for certificate use.
Hmm, it really seems to be 400x240... I can't get it started, it says acquiring data connection and check flight mode, or do I only have to wait some time?
Got it, with WLAN it works, maybe I haven't waited long enough... seems to be not very fast...
got the same problem. but since its scaled anyway, i dont care much cause i dont think im going to use this.
text could be better. i have to refresh every now and then to get the text to clear up. playing the web video is good but could be smoother. its a beta and hopefully it gets better.
i found it to be a bit slow but i may attribute that to my wi-fi connection as to i am always past 30ft from my wireless connection and that i have it installed on my storage card.
for now its another web tool to keep in case i want to view a page with video content.
Youtube works, not perfect, but it works, that's nice, a fullscreen mode for the videos would be nice... the resolution is not nice, I think in full WVGA it would look much better...
full resolution will probably make go even slower. i think its geting pages as pictures as i see it supporting text languages that i know are not suppoted by my phone
they should dither the picture to make look less pixely
To me, the older Skyfire version 0.9.0.8294 seems to be better. It still looks blurry when zoomed out, but when you zoom in completely, it renders the page clearly. The .9151 version still looks blurry even if you zoom in completely.
are they caching the sites and we are getting the sites off their server??
this is a big security risk!
I noticed that because our proxy server is being bypassed
mystkai they aren't caching site, they are loading them for you on their fast servers and then sending an image down to your phone. Which is one of the reasons like Opera Mini why I tend not to use them.
I think it's the best flash included browser yet. My only problem with it so far is that it really does work best in wifi. The videos are at times choppy, but better than nothing at all.
is there a way to make it play the video in full screen or close to full screen. the zoom in function cannot be fine tuned
I personally like it alot. Yeah is blurry and laggy but is still a Beta remember. Once they fix those things it will be the best i think.
I think Skyfire has a great potential, and if it works without laggs and in full wvga it will be a great browser, I hope the next beta will work better, than I can watch youtube

Only 2 questions I couldn't find the answer to...

I came from an HD2, and what HTC wrote over in WinMo 6.5 I thought was great, especially the gallery app, which cleared up an image when you zoomed in. I've noticed that this phone does not do that. When I zoom in on a picture I took it just turns all fuzzy, like it's been compressed or something. I know the pics are high res cause they look great on my computer, but I just can't understand why they don't clear up when you zoom in. Anyone else experience this? The only other issue I've noticed is that every once in a while I'll open an app up, lets say the web browser, and it pops up and then just force closes. Several others I know with a Vibrant/Captivate are having this problem as well, and I was just curious if anyone knew the cause. I'm totally new to Android so please pardon me if these are dumb questions.
for the second half of your post you should get your phone replaced.
there have been a couple people on here that had that issue with "sticking" buttons so apps would randomly close or settings would popup.
As for your first issue, it sounds to me as though you are zooming into the thumbnail version of the picture. Perhaps the full high-res version is actually found in another pile/folder under the gallery. I don't think the thumbnails are generally viewable separately, though I do see a lot of other media gathered up from various apps which can be kinda annoying.
No I promise I'm not zooming on the thumbnails, I'm clicking the folder with all of my pictures in it, and it'll let me zoom in on them, but they never clear up. It's not the camera cause the resolution is right, just the zooming isn't working properly. it's weird, and frustrating.
I definitely don't have the camera problem. I tested it with photos I took as well as wallpapers in my gallery. I assume you are using the gallery app, right?
If you're getting FCs on stock apps you may want to just do a factory data reset (settings/privacy). It happens occasionally to all android phones and the only sure fix I've seen is a reset. Make sure you're not using task killers or home replacement apps (pandahome, openhome, etc) as they can cause a lot of FCs in my experience.
You might have your camera resolution on lowest settings. Try a higher setting and let us know. The default resolution is 640x480.
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Checked the resolution of the camera and the pictures themselved and they're both 5MP, so I really don't know what the problem is now. It is rather frustrating though, when I zoom I want to see the details of the image not a fuzzy picture. Another thing I've just had happen to me is trying to copy over a 4.5GB MKV file at 720p I got the message "The file 'Up' is too large for the destination file system" I don't get that cause I have 6GB free on the phone and 6GB free on the 16GB micro SD. My phone hates me :'(
the 4.5gb MKV isn't a Samsung issue. It's a filesystem issue, relating to the default filesystem used on the sd card memory. FAT32 has a file size limit of 4gb.
It might seem a bit frustrating that you will have to re-encode that huge MKV, but considering that you can count on the fingers of one hand the smartphones that would even be able to smoothly play the video in that container in the first place, it's a small price to pay.
I know the phone could play it, it chews through my 720p copies of Top Gear without so much as a hiccup, and they're nearly the same bit-rate. I think you're right about counting the phones that could do that though because my HD2 didn't have a chance. I didn't know fat32 had a file size limit though, that's very useful information and thank you very much for that. Any ideas on the gallery app problem?
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I had/have a HD2, and now a Vibrant that I am using.
I know what you are talking about with the pictures looking pixelated on the Vibrant when you zoom in, but look fine on the HD2. I too, would like a solution to this. Maybe another app does this.
I know exactly what you're talking about and it really is quite annoying. As if losing the flash wasn't bad enough, now even my old photos look bad on it. I've figured out firstly that the stock android gallery app has a 16 bit limit but that's not the issue I'd imagine. What I believe to be the culprit is that, as far as I can tell, what the image viewer does is it actually automatically downsizes all your photos which would explain the pictures' butchered quality. Of course it's just a theory but it seems to check out. Unfortunately I have yet to find a decent replacement app or a solution thus far. And not to dash your hopes but I hear the problem also exists in froyo. Kinda disheartening for such an awesome multimedia phone.
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+1.. I also know what you mean, I had the HD2 and zooming in on the pictures on this phone sucks!. I am sure there is an image viewer somewhere that would work well
Yes! Glad to hear I'm not the only one with this issue. I was beginning to think I was alone! I am by no means a developer, but I think it's probably the scaling algorithim, though it would be interesting to check it out on another phone running 2.1. Next time I activate a Captivate at work I'll check that as well, it'd be really weird if that one worked correctly!!
I've figured something out. When you look at photos in the actual camera app, and zoom in that viewer, the pictures look fine, it's only in the actual gallery app where the zoom doesn't work properly...
I definetly do not have the issue with zooming in on pictures (camera or gallery) and I have yet to have a FC on any app. You mentioned the browser, any other apps FC'ing on you?
Have you done anything (other than root if you have)?
Are you using a TK?
Can you give more details?
I know what you mean by zooming the pics. Try image viewer, its awesome and zooms in great
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Well it's only the browser that's done it, and it's only happened once to me, so I'm really not worried about that one. A power cycle took care of it right then and there. As for the zooming, like I said in the camera app itself it works fine, but in the gallery app it's not too good. I'm not rooted (yet), and I have no task killer because I've heard more bad things than good things about those. Idk how else to describe the problem, it just seems like when I zoom in it's like the file is a very low resolution and gets very pixelated and when I check the properties I know it's a 5MP picture, so idk what's going on.
Something I never noticed so I just tested and you're right!
It's the way the built in gallery app works. It creates a thumbnail of all images and that's what it displays. You can even see the thumbnail images if you explore the phone memory. The only way around it is to download and use a different image viewer.
I suggest large image viewer! It is a bit spartan in terms of features and ui but it has the best image viewing of all the apps I tried! Btw the default image viewer basically makes a lower res bitmap of all your pictures and it's impossible (I think) to actually view the original images from within the gallery app. Why it would do this? I have no clue, seems like poor programming to me. Perhaps it's the cost we pay for the nifty though relatively pointless 3d effects.
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Adjust MMS compression settings

Anyone know if there's a way to adjust the mms compression settings? I use shootme to take screenshots and when I send them to friends, it's completely unreadable and blocky. I'm guessing because it gets compressed so dam much.
Some roms raise the mms size limit, that should help.
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Hey guys, my fiance's Shift has somewhat of the same problem. She'd take a picture with every possible setting on 'high' and they look great on the phone itself. If you view the pics on a PC from the SD card, they look pretty good, too. The problem appears when she sends pics as mms to me or other phones (other 'droids, iphones, BBs...you name it): these attachments arrive in 'thumbnail' format! You can zoom in, but all the original quality goes down the drain
Shift is rooted and I flashed....don't remember what lol. I think it was the 'official' update...is it called AOSP? Sorry, kinda of a n00b here
Any ideas?
dragon_0n4 said:
Hey guys, my fiance's Shift has somewhat of the same problem. She'd take a picture with every possible setting on 'high' and they look great on the phone itself. If you view the pics on a PC from the SD card, they look pretty good, too. The problem appears when she sends pics as mms to me or other phones (other 'droids, iphones, BBs...you name it): these attachments arrive in 'thumbnail' format! You can zoom in, but all the original quality goes down the drain
Shift is rooted and I flashed....don't remember what lol. I think it was the 'official' update...is it called AOSP? Sorry, kinda of a n00b here
Any ideas?
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Might want to try MikShifted G v1.76 or Supreme Sense v8 . Both have the MMS Compression settings adjustments your talking about. The pic quality is also great even when you send an MMS.
To add to prboy1969's point the you will probably need to be on a custom rom that has those settings tweaked. Although you should still be able to send a pic and have it come out ok on the other end.

Review of SGS 2 - really bad sms-software

Hey.
I'm not used to publish anything here, but i have ordered a SGS 2, and while it is on the way - i'm looking on a great danish site for reviewing mobile phones, as they are reviewing it right now, with a section covering parts of the phone every day. So far, it has been VERY promising - but today, they have found something really annoying on the phone... the SMS- and MMS-software on the phone.
It is (and i just repeat there words) like this...
"The SMS- and MMS-software works, but there really is things that should be made better next time. As this function is one of the basic parts of a phone, it is crucial to make this part really flying, in terms of usability - unfortunately it really doesn't feel like this works in reality on this phone."
"The keyboard is really precise, and is very fast. But for example is smileys inserted as text, and not converted to graphic smileys like on other phones - only first when the message is sent, it is converted, which seems odd. And it is not described anywhere, that the symbol "." calls the available smileys on, and is a very limited collection by the way."
"Another BIG minus is that the symbol "," is gone from the main keyboard, and it seems idiotic to remove one of the most used symbols from the main screen."
"The word dictionary works fine, but has a tendency to make the textbox above jump up and down, which makes you crazy over period of time."
"The mobile also supports delivery reports for the sent text messages, but these works just crazy. The phone shows a "message is sent", but if you want to see if the message is received, you have to choose details of the message. This is just not good enough, as other phones has much better ways to show this." (the SE Arc is mentioned here as a much better way to show this)
"The MMS-part is just catastrophic. When a picture is received, its not possible to zoom the picture, without saving it in gallery first. And is goes completely wrong, when a picture is sent from the phone - it is very violently pixelated at the receiver. Why, when the camera is so good????. We have tested the mobile up against others, and it clearly sends pictures as MMS, in the lowest quality. Most of the other phones is very clearly superior, compared to the SGS 2."
"Verdict!!... clearly not good enough. We recommend getting the application Handcent, which handles SMS'es MUCH better then the original program on the SGS 2. But its just not good enough, that a user has to get thirdpart-programs to get the most out of this phone, which is branded as a high-end phone. It seems like Samsung just has forgotten that this is a basic function of a phone, and it has to work. So this part of the otherwise very good phone only gets 1 out of 6 stars. It still gets a star, as it CAN receive and send SMS text messages, but thats basically it..."
A very harsh verdict from a magazine, which is otherwise very happy about the new SGS 2, and Android-phones in general. As of that, I'm not in any doubt, that they really mean this - they hate this function in the phone. Happily i'm not using this function much, so my order stays where it is - just wanted to show you other this...
If you can read any danish, it is on mobilsiden.dk
I guess they never worked out that you can download new keyboards, and that the awesome swype keyboard comes pre-installed?
To be honest
I am one of those people who don't use SMS/MMS on the newer smartphones as I dont feel the need to as I connect with my friends on facebook or just chat with the google talk or msn messenger in real time.
To me SMS/MMS is a bit outdated with mobile phones pulling your emails and social networking is a breeze
Just a thought
You dont need to read finish. Get chrome to translate for you.
Seems to me that it is more of and issue of software bugs than anything will can easily be fixed. The keyboard issues is irrelevant and there are plently of keyboard replacements on the market that will fix (smart keyboard pro, thumb keyboard, swype). And I never use stock messaging apps either as Go SMS and handcent are vastly superior. The mms bug is a little weird and should be easily fixed with software tweak.
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Ive always used handcent anyway so no worrys
Go SMS Pro is another option, I prefer it to Handcent SMS.
AS usual one magazines review cannot be taken as the de facto standard .
jje
These guys don't have a clue about Android.
Sorry pals but you miss the point here.
I need a unbiased review on the installed software not what I can download or install later.
Please just have a look at sense it's awesome with facebook, keyboard contacts and SMS mms function . So what can do Samsung? Just take care to upgrade the firmware because it's just not acceptable to customize a brand new phone before it can be used properly!
Take care.
bzpwhx2 said:
Sorry pals but you miss the point here.
I need a unbiased review on the installed software not what I can download or install later.
Please just have a look at sense it's awesome with facebook, keyboard contacts and SMS mms function . So what can do Samsung? Just take care to upgrade the firmware because it's just not acceptable to customize a brand new phone before it can be used properly!
Take care.
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But would you go and ask for a review on an iPhone, but refuse to listen to anything they said about the app store? One of the key features of Android is that it's open and you get choice...
If you want a different SMS app, go to the market, search for "SMS", and take your pick. You'll probably like one more than what was installed, as that's the wonder of choice... Same for dialer apps.
Android isn't just what you get out the box. Treat it as a canvas, and start making it your own
Heck, I'll be removing touchwiz when mine appears, as I prefer the customisation offered by launcher pro
Just wanted to add that I think their review is just bad:
On a completely stock SGS2, here are the reasons I think the messaging app is pretty good:
1. Swype comes pre-installed, just hold down on the text box, select input method, select swype, and off it goes. So it's not 3rd party software, it comes with the device. As far as keyboards go, the swype keyboard is generally MUCH faster for writing messages to friends than most keyboards could ever hope to be - and the dictionary is top class.
2. When you get an SMS, the nice lockscreen notification and Android top-bar notification systems beat the hell out of the annoying "pop-up, disturb what you're doing" systems in most non-Android phones. As far as other Android phones go, it's much the same.
3. The speed of the device makes jumping into the SMS app and browsing around much nicer than most phones.
4. MMS - do people really use this more than once a month?
This is all just personal opinion - but then, so is the review. Zero facts involved in any of this - I don't see them having completed any sort of study on SMS productivity here...
I do agree that the samsung messaging app is not as good as the stock android one . Now all we need are some talented devs to put out a vanilla android build for this beast.
RyanZA said:
Just wanted to add that I think their review is just bad:
On a completely stock SGS2, here are the reasons I think the messaging app is pretty good:
1. Swype comes pre-installed, just hold down on the text box, select input method, select swype, and off it goes. So it's not 3rd party software, it comes with the device. As far as keyboards go, the swype keyboard is generally MUCH faster for writing messages to friends than most keyboards could ever hope to be - and the dictionary is top class.
2. When you get an SMS, the nice lockscreen notification and Android top-bar notification systems beat the hell out of the annoying "pop-up, disturb what you're doing" systems in most non-Android phones. As far as other Android phones go, it's much the same.
3. The speed of the device makes jumping into the SMS app and browsing around much nicer than most phones.
4. MMS - do people really use this more than once a month?
This is all just personal opinion - but then, so is the review. Zero facts involved in any of this - I don't see them having completed any sort of study on SMS productivity here...
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Once a month for MMS? Wow that's often I've only sent 3 MMS messages in a large number of years... (more than I care to recall)
darkninja157 said:
I do agree that the samsung messaging app is not as good as the stock android one . Now all we need are some talented devs to put out a vanilla android build for this beast.
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Or to get the stock messaging app running as an "installable" app?
pulser_g2 said:
Once a month for MMS? Wow that's often I've only sent 3 MMS messages in a large number of years... (more than I care to recall)
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I was referring to hardcore power users of MMS when I said 1 MMS per month - I've personally only sent 1 MMS ever. I don't even know if my SGS1 can even send an MMS, and I used that phone daily for a year.
I need a unbiased review on the installed software not what I can download or install later.
But i repeat one bad review is not worth a cent three or four yes .,
So what about the other reviews of the phone .
like
Again, we're giving the Samsung Galaxy S2 a big tick for its messaging capabilities – there's a plethora of options here, and it's very easy indeed to stay connected through pretty much any method you can think of.
jje
Not to make this a beat down or anything, but does ANYONE who uses sites like this and own an Android phone remain with manufacturer standard software without any form of customisation?? (unless of course your happy with it!)
i know a couple of girls with Android phones who don't really have a clue about its true potential in this sense, and certainly don't look on forums such as this, and use their phones as they come 'out the box'... but surely any user here could not care less about such a silly issue, as they would understand that all that was needed was a couple of clicks and POW! you've got YOUR phone the way YOU like it...
just sayin', rant over
Dickie
The stock app is pretty good i think. I was an iphone user until u broke my phone and used a cheap wildfire until my contract expired. The stock app on the wildfire was terrible. I switched to go sms and didn't like it either. But as another poster said, the beauty of these phones are their ability to be completely customized. One galaxy s2 issue i have is the keyboard. Swype is ok but i can't.get used.to it.
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I think the stock messaging app is freaking AWESOME. TRY LANDSCAPE MODE
Its like the galaxy tab email app. Loving it. And even thinking of porting it over to the original SGS

request? Auto convert video to mms?

In the stock lg kk firmware, you can choose any video you have already recorded and send it through messaging. When you click on a video and share it through messenger, it says video to large, do you want to trim it to send. On all custom lg kk based roms (cloudy stock, cloudy flex, aeon flex), when you go to share a video through messenger, it says video to large and gives you no options to be able to send. Is there an apk that is missing in these roms that we could install?
If the video is too large for MMS you just can't send it through MMS, only through internet-based Messengers like WhatsApp and others that support sending video files. Your only possibility is to compress it way more (better not on smartphone, to much power/time consuming) like with H.256 (for the moment nothing can get videos better compressed without making quality worse) or you have to trim it. I don't think the limit is made by LG, it's made by the owner of the MMS system so I don't see any other way to bypass it.
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If the video is too large for MMS you just can't send it through MMS, only through internet-based Messengers like WhatsApp and others that support sending video files. Your only possibility is to compress it way more (better not on smartphone, to much power/time consuming) like with H.256 (for the moment nothing can get videos better compressed without making quality worse) or you have to trim it. I don't think the limit is made by LG, it's made by the owner of the MMS system so I don't see any other way to bypass it.
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I think you misinterpreted what i am asking or i worded things wrong. In the stock lg kk (att), if you select and video you have recorded and share through messenger, it says "video to large, do you want to trim it, you click yes, it trims the video(doesnt take long at all), and then allows you to send the video through messenger. In any custom stock lg kk, it does not give you the option to trim and send, it just says video to large.
ah, ok. Then I think there is something missing which was installed by att. Maybe they changed the messenger, maybe something else. Do you use a special att-version of the custom ROM? Maybe this only works with att ROMs. You could try to trim it yourself and maybe lower the quality a little bit, I think that's what att does (would be the easyest way). Which format/codec does the camera app use for the videos? Maybe you can ask the developer if there is a way to use a higher compression by default?
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ah, ok. Then I think there is something missing which was installed by att. Maybe they changed the messenger, maybe something else. Do you use a special att-version of the custom ROM? Maybe this only works with att ROMs. You could try to trim it yourself and maybe lower the quality a little bit, I think that's what att does (would be the easyest way). Which format/codec does the camera app use for the videos? Maybe you can ask the developer if there is a way to use a higher compression by default?
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Im not as concerned with quality as i am with just having the feature to send pre-recorded videos through messenger while keeping it simple. I could be wrong but i cant imagine that this is an att feature. Can anyone else on a different carrier verify what happens on the stock lg kk firmware?

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