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[Q] Any chance to get raw Bayer or at least non-denoised pictures?

Hi,
After briefly checking available camera parameters of the LG G2 (stock), I found this:
picture-format-values=jpeg,bayer-qcom-10gbrg,bayer-qcom-10grbg,bayer-qcom-10rggb,bayer-qcom-10bggr,bayer-mipi-10gbrg,bayer-mipi-10grbg,bayer-mipi-10rggb,bayer-mipi-10bggr,yuv422sp
So I've started to work on a small app that will get unprocessed images to process them later on. But I've faced the following issues:
None of the eight bayer modes give me any callbacks for "PictureCallback raw" and "PictureCallback jpeg".
Is there any chance to get the raw image from this device's camera? With root? Different rom / kernel?
In addition the camera's images are extremely blurred due to aggressive denoise. Since I prefer to clean the noise in photoshop later on, I would like to disable the denoise filter. Unfortunately, params.set("denoise", "denoise-off") does nothing...
Is there a way to disable it?
Thank! :fingers-crossed:

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Sorry... Now it is there.
How do I delete this thread?

Camera2 api

It looks like we have full support of camera 2 api.

try snap camera from the store it have a option to enable..used the app if I was on aosp rom with the m8

Good to see

I forget where, but this was actually confirmed a looooooong time ago (well... long in tech time. Couple of weeks ago though).

I thought that since Samsung doesn't offer shutter speed control in pro mode that they didn't enable the full camera 2 api.

Dovigoldberger said:
It looks like we have full support of camera 2 api.
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Hi,
According to the person who wrote this article, it seems that the camera2 api is not fully supported at the moment :
http://spectrastudy.com/camera2-api-on-mwc-2015-devices/
The manual camera checks would then bit too enthusiastic if this is true.
Can anyone who has manual camera installed try to take a picture in RAW and post the DNG file here?
I couldn't find any S6 DNG file on the web; it would be great if someone could confirm whether it is really possible to shoot in RAW with the S6.
With a Nexus 5, the 3 following apps can shoot in RAW :
- a better camera (there is a free version with limited number of shots in case)
- camera fv-5 (paid app)
- manual camera (paid app)

Dovigoldberger said:
I thought that since Samsung doesn't offer shutter speed control in pro mode that they didn't enable the full camera 2 api.
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It does, but due to driver limitations, the longest shutter you can choose in Manual Camera app is 1/10. The longest shutter the S6 and edge is allowed to use (when ISO is manually set in the stock camera app) is 1/7. And when Manual Camera opens, WB is all green, so you need to long press WB to make it normal. There is now RAW support wither.
Right now the best camera SW for the S6 and edge is the stock, which is extremely fast to open, very quick to focus and snap, and offers a wide variety of options including manual settings, without shutter control. The latter is a pity, but without long exposures, you can just indirectly control it via ISO, either way, you are maxed out at 1/7. On the bright side... the lens is very bright, offering dramatically better lit details at the same SP and ISO than the S5, Note 4 or One M9, and it makes it a solid snapper indoors. Overall camera2 API is a mixed bag at it's current state and I hope full manual control comes soon with long shutter options.

Not sure this is because of camera 2 API or not, but you guys notice you can now separate auto focus from exposure point in pro mode? You can press and hold to lock the focus point, while shifting the exposure point to elsewhere on the screen. Makes it much better while shooting in situations where background and foreground are in vastly different exposure brackets.

http://spectrastudy.com/camera2-api-on-mwc-2015-devices/

"Manual camera" app doesn't work with S6
vincent2167 said:
Hi,
According to the person who wrote this article, it seems that the camera2 api is not fully supported at the moment :
... link ...
The manual camera checks would then bit too enthusiastic if this is true.
Can anyone who has manual camera installed try to take a picture in RAW and post the DNG file here?
I couldn't find any S6 DNG file on the web; it would be great if someone could confirm whether it is really possible to shoot in RAW with the S6.
With a Nexus 5, the 3 following apps can shoot in RAW :
- a better camera (there is a free version with limited number of shots in case)
- camera fv-5 (paid app)
- manual camera (paid app)
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I Installed "Manual camera" app (compatibility app said that it would work) but it doesn't work.
"Manual camera" interface appears, turns green and freezes, and phone either reboots or app
just shuts down. Camera gets a little warm too.
Was hoping to get DNG files from S6, but doesn't look good.
Very disappointed about this.
Uninstalled app and was refunded.

Thanks for the feedback!

I tried the Manual Camera app as well and it all appeared to be working for me, until I attempted to save a RAW image. This crashed my camera and required a full reboot to resolve.

Jason_V said:
I tried the Manual Camera app as well and it all appeared to be working for me, until I attempted to save a RAW image. This crashed my camera and required a full reboot to resolve.
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I don't think there's RAW support for any non-Nexus phone (maybe one of the Chinese ones, but not from the major OEMs).
Also, doesn't the shutter top out at 1/10 or 1/7?

Yeah when putting it into raw and gpeg you will get a crash we have to wait for Samsung to do an update . I have a feeling that the ois is the reason samsung cannot alow shutter speed variation as even dslr cameras don't use image stabilization when it's on long exposure and as ois cannot be switched of manually then this will be a problem .

Google Camera2 API

Hello every one! Hope you're having a great day
I'm here because I need your help To make a long story short, until I can save enough to buy a new proper camera, I'm stuck with my P9 Lite, which cannot save pictures as RAW/DNG files. This feature is provided by Google's Camera2 API, which my phone doesn't have/support. Four questions:
1. Is it possible to install Camera2 API on my phone, through a custom ROM?
2. Is it possible to install a custom ROM without losing on the initial image quality provided by my phone's camera?
3. In theory, could this API be enabled by a future software update? Or does it only have to do with how the phone was originally conceived?
4. Even if I managed to get the API on my phone, would it be possible to make it fully supported, and would I be able to save RAW/DNG files even if my phone originally doesn't offer this option?
Thank you very much!
P.S: I've never thought of "flashing" a custom ROM on my phone, this issue is the only reason why I'm considering it. As you may have noticed by my way of explaining things, I'm a five year old when it comes to informatics, and I'd probably be the first in line to buy Smartphone Software For Dummies. As much as I admire how technical and specialised you can get about a science that goes way beyond my understanding abilities, if you can keep things slow and simple, as if you were talking to an actual five year old, I'd be very grateful

themadbuddha said:
Hello every one! Hope you're having a great day
I'm here because I need your help To make a long story short, until I can save enough to buy a new proper camera, I'm stuck with my P9 Lite, which cannot save pictures as RAW/DNG files. This feature is provided by Google's Camera2 API, which my phone doesn't have/support. Four questions:
1. Is it possible to install Camera2 API on my phone, through a custom ROM?
2. Is it possible to install a custom ROM without losing on the initial image quality provided by my phone's camera?
3. In theory, could this API be enabled by a future software update? Or does it only have to do with how the phone was originally conceived?
4. Even if I managed to get the API on my phone, would it be possible to make it fully supported, and would I be able to save RAW/DNG files even if my phone originally doesn't offer this option?
Thank you very much!
P.S: I've never thought of "flashing" a custom ROM on my phone, this issue is the only reason why I'm considering it. As you may have noticed by my way of explaining things, I'm a five year old when it comes to informatics, and I'd probably be the first in line to buy Smartphone Software For Dummies. As much as I admire how technical and specialised you can get about a science that goes way beyond my understanding abilities, if you can keep things slow and simple, as if you were talking to an actual five year old, I'd be very grateful
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Can't you just install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera on stock ROM? I think the camera2 api should be available.

Thank you for replying! The application supports Camera2 API, but if the API is not available on my phone in the first place, I don't think the application will work...According to my researches, the API is like, let's say, a camera: if your phone doesn't have a camera, you could install as many camera apps as you want, your phone still won't take any pictures...What I need is a way to add a camera to my phone - in our case, the API - so that I can start taking pictures - in our case, saving RAW/DNG files. Also, I might be wrong.

themadbuddha said:
Thank you for replying! The application supports Camera2 API, but if the API is not available on my phone in the first place, I don't think the application will work...According to my researches, the API is like, let's say, a camera: if your phone doesn't have a camera, you could install as many camera apps as you want, your phone still won't take any pictures...What I need is a way to add a camera to my phone - in our case, the API - so that I can start taking pictures - in our case, saving RAW/DNG files. Also, I might be wrong.
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So the app doesn't work? I can't test it cause I am not on stock.

Just tried open cam on stock rom and I can capture RAW dng files, so it seems like camera2 is supported try it out!
UPDATE: Enable "Use alternative flash method" in photo settings if it won't take pictures when camera2 is enabled.

Open camera is pretty buggy on this phone when shooting RAW. Try "Footej camera", seems to work better

yaa but for footej need to pay to have fully featured. I payed for this but for m there is no diference to open camera.

I didn't say that Footej is better than open camera. Just that open camera often bugs for me when using camera2 - eg nothing happens when pressing camera button.

Sry for reviving the thread, is there any way to increase max shutter speed in camera2 api? I'm really interested in shooting some raw stuff but apps like Opencamera or Adobe Lightroom won't allow me to set over 1 second shutter speed (apart from the built-in camera app that allows up to 8 secs, but without raw support...) so it's a pain in the butt if I want to take raw pictures at night.
Using the stock Marshmallow Emui

The Lightroom app has a built in camera which can shoot RAW, I tried it and it works flawlessly.
Camera API2 *IS* present on p9 lite and *DOES* work.

zgomot said:
The Lightroom app has a built in camera which can shoot RAW, I tried it and it works flawlessly.
Camera API2 *IS* present on p9 lite and *DOES* work.
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Yup it does, but shutter speed cannot be set over 1 second (see the screenshot), that means night photos end up being very noisy since I need to drastically increase iso. The default camera app allows much longer shutter time, that's why I'm wondering what's wrong
If it was possible to set it to like 10 secs in the Lightroom app, the camera would be damn great

Krastinov said:
Yup it does, but shutter speed cannot be set over 1 second (see the screenshot), that means night photos end up being very noisy since I need to drastically increase iso. The default camera app allows much longer shutter time, that's why I'm wondering what's wrong
If it was possible to set it to like 10 secs in the Lightroom app, the camera would be damn great
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Have you tried Camera FV5?

zgomot said:
Have you tried Camera FV5?
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Yea, but it says that this device doesn't support raw :|

Krastinov said:
Yea, but it says that this device doesn't support raw :|
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Is it the trial version?

zgomot said:
Is it the trial version?
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Full. Does it work for you?
Also I heard that official Nougat brings raw support to the built-in camera, can anyone verify that? I might wanna update in that case

Krastinov said:
Full. Does it work for you?
Also I heard that official Nougat brings raw support to the built-in camera, can anyone verify that? I might wanna update in that case
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I Know This Is Quite Old But In Case Someone Is Still Wondering;
I'm Using Stock Nougat Firmware On My P9 Lite And It Does Support Raw Format, But You Have To Root The Phone And Enable Raw/DNG Format In Some System Files

Manual camera controls

Hi, I was wondering if there is any 3rd party camera app that could enable manual camera controls such as ISO selection and shutter speed?

Leriche-Fontaine said:
Hi, I was wondering if there is any 3rd party camera app that could enable manual camera controls such as ISO selection and shutter speed?
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Good question, i had issues with this too (coming form Nokia Lumia with manual controls) , now this android camera seems lame.
So this is almost the best i could come up with overall quality of pictures and features : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera
Apart from that Pro shot is a good app too but i cant find a way to go above 12 MP in that app which is a dud for the powerful 16 MP we have as a rear cam.

Thank you surya, do you happen to know what's the shutter speed range with those apps?

Leriche-Fontaine said:
Hi, I was wondering if there is any 3rd party camera app that could enable manual camera controls such as ISO selection and shutter speed?
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Hi!
If we're talking about 3rd party camera apps, they are dependent on how well the manufacturer of the phone has implemented the Camera2 API into Android that was introduced with Lollipop. If the Camera2 API has not been implemented properly the developers can't really do a lot in terms of manual controls (shutter speed etc) because the system doesn't give them access to it. You can test the level of Camera2 support on your phone with the app "Camera2 probe". The hardware support levels are "Legacy" (worst), "Limited", "Full" and "Level 3" (best). Would be interesting to know the results if you test it. Depending on the level of implementation, you can run certain apps or not or have certain manual controls available or not. If you use "Open Camera", you have to activate Camera2 features in the settings, it's not switched on by default.
Hope this helps a bit.

Try this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fgnm.baconcamera&hl=en
NOt based on camera2 api though..

Using camera2 probe -
Model : TA-1003
Build Version : 7.1.1
SDK version : 25
Hardware level category : Level 3
Exposure : All exposures are ticked.
Focus - Auto Focus EDOF is not ticked but all else is.
Whitebalance - All whitebalance options have been ticked
RAW capture is available.
So the TA-1003 is able to access the camera features properly, all except the Auto Focus EDOF.
There may be a discrepancy with the TA-1000 so someone with that model can try...
Cheers guys...

ultramag69 said:
Using camera2 probe -
Model : TA-1003
Build Version : 7.1.1
SDK version : 25
Hardware level category : Level 3
Exposure : All exposures are ticked.
Focus - Auto Focus EDOF is not ticked but all else is.
Whitebalance - All whitebalance options have been ticked
RAW capture is available.
So the TA-1003 is able to access the camera features properly, all except the Auto Focus EDOF.
There may be a discrepancy with the TA-1000 so someone with that model can try...
Cheers guys...
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Good to see it has the best implementation level (Level 3).

So can you shoot in raw? If yes, this would be one of the cheapest phones with raw!
This app shows what is supported: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2_compatibility_test
Could anyone post the result?

Any news?

Raw is supported and tweaked google camera hdr+ works. Quality is amazing.

Fully working manual mode in any cam?

Does anyone know a third-party app that manual mode really functions? I tried asus pixelmaster but after some time adjusting the preferences it becomes buggy. I just need something that has shutter speed.

Not much into camera stuff, but AFAIK Gcam does support it and open camera (FOSS).

Try one plus camera
You can try one plus camera. Not the best but does the job. https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/themes/app-collection-camera-modded-t3591177