Hi, I was wondering if there is any 3rd party camera app that could enable manual camera controls such as ISO selection and shutter speed?
Leriche-Fontaine said:
Hi, I was wondering if there is any 3rd party camera app that could enable manual camera controls such as ISO selection and shutter speed?
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Good question, i had issues with this too (coming form Nokia Lumia with manual controls) , now this android camera seems lame.
So this is almost the best i could come up with overall quality of pictures and features : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera
Apart from that Pro shot is a good app too but i cant find a way to go above 12 MP in that app which is a dud for the powerful 16 MP we have as a rear cam.
Thank you surya, do you happen to know what's the shutter speed range with those apps?
Leriche-Fontaine said:
Hi, I was wondering if there is any 3rd party camera app that could enable manual camera controls such as ISO selection and shutter speed?
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Hi!
If we're talking about 3rd party camera apps, they are dependent on how well the manufacturer of the phone has implemented the Camera2 API into Android that was introduced with Lollipop. If the Camera2 API has not been implemented properly the developers can't really do a lot in terms of manual controls (shutter speed etc) because the system doesn't give them access to it. You can test the level of Camera2 support on your phone with the app "Camera2 probe". The hardware support levels are "Legacy" (worst), "Limited", "Full" and "Level 3" (best). Would be interesting to know the results if you test it. Depending on the level of implementation, you can run certain apps or not or have certain manual controls available or not. If you use "Open Camera", you have to activate Camera2 features in the settings, it's not switched on by default.
Hope this helps a bit.
Try this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fgnm.baconcamera&hl=en
NOt based on camera2 api though..
Using camera2 probe -
Model : TA-1003
Build Version : 7.1.1
SDK version : 25
Hardware level category : Level 3
Exposure : All exposures are ticked.
Focus - Auto Focus EDOF is not ticked but all else is.
Whitebalance - All whitebalance options have been ticked
RAW capture is available.
So the TA-1003 is able to access the camera features properly, all except the Auto Focus EDOF.
There may be a discrepancy with the TA-1000 so someone with that model can try...
Cheers guys...
ultramag69 said:
Using camera2 probe -
Model : TA-1003
Build Version : 7.1.1
SDK version : 25
Hardware level category : Level 3
Exposure : All exposures are ticked.
Focus - Auto Focus EDOF is not ticked but all else is.
Whitebalance - All whitebalance options have been ticked
RAW capture is available.
So the TA-1003 is able to access the camera features properly, all except the Auto Focus EDOF.
There may be a discrepancy with the TA-1000 so someone with that model can try...
Cheers guys...
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Good to see it has the best implementation level (Level 3).
So can you shoot in raw? If yes, this would be one of the cheapest phones with raw!
This app shows what is supported: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2_compatibility_test
Could anyone post the result?
Any news?
Raw is supported and tweaked google camera hdr+ works. Quality is amazing.
Related
I'v heard that Omnia7 has HDR function, so how about our Focus?
download Samsung's Photogram app, it has an HDR option
can i have a way to take a photo using HDR directly, like the iPhone, enable HDR, capture photos
There is a "Wide Dynamic Range" option you can set in the camera options. I don't know enough about photography to know if there's a difference between HDR and WDR, but it looks like the HDR effect when I use it.
HDR is not a hardware function. It is the use of software to use multiple exposure levels to highlight certain aspects of a photo (close enough without going into too much detail). The Photogram app, from Samsung, provides HDR using the camera directly. You open the app, choose HDR and then select "from camera."
FishFaceMcGee said:
There is a "Wide Dynamic Range" option you can set in the camera options. I don't know enough about photography to know if there's a difference between HDR and WDR, but it looks like the HDR effect when I use it.
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Yes it is the same. That is the feature you're looking for OP.
It looks like we have full support of camera 2 api.
try snap camera from the store it have a option to enable..used the app if I was on aosp rom with the m8
Good to see
I forget where, but this was actually confirmed a looooooong time ago (well... long in tech time. Couple of weeks ago though).
I thought that since Samsung doesn't offer shutter speed control in pro mode that they didn't enable the full camera 2 api.
Dovigoldberger said:
It looks like we have full support of camera 2 api.
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Hi,
According to the person who wrote this article, it seems that the camera2 api is not fully supported at the moment :
http://spectrastudy.com/camera2-api-on-mwc-2015-devices/
The manual camera checks would then bit too enthusiastic if this is true.
Can anyone who has manual camera installed try to take a picture in RAW and post the DNG file here?
I couldn't find any S6 DNG file on the web; it would be great if someone could confirm whether it is really possible to shoot in RAW with the S6.
With a Nexus 5, the 3 following apps can shoot in RAW :
- a better camera (there is a free version with limited number of shots in case)
- camera fv-5 (paid app)
- manual camera (paid app)
Dovigoldberger said:
I thought that since Samsung doesn't offer shutter speed control in pro mode that they didn't enable the full camera 2 api.
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It does, but due to driver limitations, the longest shutter you can choose in Manual Camera app is 1/10. The longest shutter the S6 and edge is allowed to use (when ISO is manually set in the stock camera app) is 1/7. And when Manual Camera opens, WB is all green, so you need to long press WB to make it normal. There is now RAW support wither.
Right now the best camera SW for the S6 and edge is the stock, which is extremely fast to open, very quick to focus and snap, and offers a wide variety of options including manual settings, without shutter control. The latter is a pity, but without long exposures, you can just indirectly control it via ISO, either way, you are maxed out at 1/7. On the bright side... the lens is very bright, offering dramatically better lit details at the same SP and ISO than the S5, Note 4 or One M9, and it makes it a solid snapper indoors. Overall camera2 API is a mixed bag at it's current state and I hope full manual control comes soon with long shutter options.
Not sure this is because of camera 2 API or not, but you guys notice you can now separate auto focus from exposure point in pro mode? You can press and hold to lock the focus point, while shifting the exposure point to elsewhere on the screen. Makes it much better while shooting in situations where background and foreground are in vastly different exposure brackets.
http://spectrastudy.com/camera2-api-on-mwc-2015-devices/
"Manual camera" app doesn't work with S6
vincent2167 said:
Hi,
According to the person who wrote this article, it seems that the camera2 api is not fully supported at the moment :
... link ...
The manual camera checks would then bit too enthusiastic if this is true.
Can anyone who has manual camera installed try to take a picture in RAW and post the DNG file here?
I couldn't find any S6 DNG file on the web; it would be great if someone could confirm whether it is really possible to shoot in RAW with the S6.
With a Nexus 5, the 3 following apps can shoot in RAW :
- a better camera (there is a free version with limited number of shots in case)
- camera fv-5 (paid app)
- manual camera (paid app)
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I Installed "Manual camera" app (compatibility app said that it would work) but it doesn't work.
"Manual camera" interface appears, turns green and freezes, and phone either reboots or app
just shuts down. Camera gets a little warm too.
Was hoping to get DNG files from S6, but doesn't look good.
Very disappointed about this.
Uninstalled app and was refunded.
Thanks for the feedback!
I tried the Manual Camera app as well and it all appeared to be working for me, until I attempted to save a RAW image. This crashed my camera and required a full reboot to resolve.
Jason_V said:
I tried the Manual Camera app as well and it all appeared to be working for me, until I attempted to save a RAW image. This crashed my camera and required a full reboot to resolve.
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I don't think there's RAW support for any non-Nexus phone (maybe one of the Chinese ones, but not from the major OEMs).
Also, doesn't the shutter top out at 1/10 or 1/7?
Yeah when putting it into raw and gpeg you will get a crash we have to wait for Samsung to do an update . I have a feeling that the ois is the reason samsung cannot alow shutter speed variation as even dslr cameras don't use image stabilization when it's on long exposure and as ois cannot be switched of manually then this will be a problem .
Hello guys) How to enable Camera2 API?) Custom ROMs (MIUI, CM, etc)
1) Root!
2) Open build.prop, make string 'persist.camera.HAL3.enabled=1' , save, reboot.
3) Check manual features by Manual Camera Compability utility.
4) Install FV-5, Manual Camera etc and enjoy by manual exposure,focus etc)
It's working on my xiaomi.eu latest MIUI7 and Mookee ROMs)
p.s. I have Snapdragon version, pls test on the MTK who have this devices.
Thanx to Nevio (4pda.ru) )))
BUG! Stock camera in MIUI7 crashed with this feature. MIUI8 is normal.
Tested with Krexus rom and working!
It's gooood)
it's for mediatek or snapdragon version ?
SD working. Try if you have MTK version. If this hint will work - I will change head of topic to both versions)
nevelaev said:
SD working. Try if you have MTK version. If this hint will work - I will change head of topic to both versions)
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Can you please test what is the longest shutter speed in Camera fv-5 or in AZ Camera. Thanks in advance!
I tried this feature on the Manual camera and AZ camera - 0.6s maximum shutter speed. And picture have a lag.
BUG found
BUG found - stock MIUI7 camera will not work with this ftr. Mi8 is normal)
News - bug only for MIUI7. MIUI8 - nice work with stock camera)
tested with official RR, working camera fv-5, now will try freedcam and manual camera
edit: tested other 2 apps, all working, very happy, to take all the juice from the camera
nevelaev said:
I tried this feature on the Manual camera and AZ camera - 0.6s maximum shutter speed. And picture have a lag.
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Ok, thank you!
I enabled camera 2 api and I am experiencing a crazy battery drain with mokee ROM. Is it normal? The battery drops 10 % in a matter of 10min and the phone gets really hot
How many of the manual settings stated in the manual camera compatibility app are supported after enabling camera2 api?
Cresqo said:
How many of the manual settings stated in the manual camera compatibility app are supported after enabling camera2 api?
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But RAW pictures are buggy on our phone, atleast on my phone
Edit: I had 3 reboots within a short time while opening camera apps since I've edited the build.prop. I'm on official RR, but the camera2 features are working fine (except raw), thanks for sharing!
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But RAW pictures are buggy on our phone, atleast on my phone
Edit: I had 3 reboots within a short time while opening camera apps since I've edited the build.prop. I'm on official RR, but the camera2 features are working fine (except raw), thanks for sharing!
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How to know its working? And which camera app to use after editing the build prop?
Sumit Samanta said:
How to know its working? And which camera app to use after editing the build prop?
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Camera fv-5, snap cam (from play store), open camera and a lot others, they have to support camera2 api. On some camera apps you have to enable it manually in the settings. Then you can control shutter speed and some other things. I've attached also a picture, on the left side the shutter speed is short and on the right side the shutter speed is a lot longer. So for "normal" pictures you won't need manual controls, but in some cases it can be useful.
Try it or die said:
Camera fv-5, snap cam (from play store), open camera and a lot others, they have to support camera2 api. On some camera apps you have to enable it manually in the settings. Then you can control shutter speed and some other things. I've attached also a picture, on the left side the shutter speed is short and on the right side the shutter speed is a lot longer. So for "normal" pictures you won't need manual controls, but in some cases it can be useful.
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Can u plz show the ss of build prop after the edit? And the settings in any camera app?
Thanks for the guide.....this has solve the problem of reboot while using third party camera apps......google camera is also working without any problem
At least. MANY DIGITAL COOKIES TO THE OP. This was a thing that I was asking before even buying the phone. Many thanks to the OP.
Hmm I am using Snap Camera with camera2 API. Best thing) But it's need to activate camera2 in the Snap Camera settings (menu--"other"tab--go down and check Camera2 API string). Nice manual focus and manual settings in the HDR mode) Snap camera may a RAW format. There opens in built-in viewer and (who installed) can be pen into Snapseed editor.
Example of the photo in HDR mode with manual settings) Sorry for my curved hands and academical English)))
My curved hands cannot make good man ual photos yet)) Who knows Russian - you can check 4pda.ru forum--Redmi Note 3 Pro Camera branch. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=750102&st=860 Many people tested this hint and VEEEEERY pleasured)))
Hi!
As a dedicated camera phone, I would expect the ZF3 Zoom to have good support for the Camera2 API that gives camera app developers access to manual controls. Can anyone run a test with "Camera2 probe" and let me know what the hardware support level is? It will be one of four: Legacy (worst), Limited, Full or Level 3 (best). I do hope it's either Full or Level 3, otherwise this would be a great disappointment.
Cheers!
Celludroid said:
Hi!
As a dedicated camera phone, I would expect the ZF3 Zoom to have good support for the Camera2 API that gives camera app developers access to manual controls. Can anyone run a test with "Camera2 probe" and let me know what the hardware support level is? It will be one of four: Legacy (worst), Limited, Full or Level 3 (best). I do hope it's either Full or Level 3, otherwise this would be a great disappointment.
Cheers!
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Here.
Pender666 said:
Here.
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Thanks!
Celludroid said:
Thanks!
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What does that mean for custom camera apps in this phone?
rafa10pj said:
What does that mean for custom camera apps in this phone?
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By "custom" do you mean 3rd party camera apps or the native camera app of the phone? I'm mostly interested in pro video recording apps and as far as I can see they need 'Full' or 'Level 3' support to work at all (Filmic Pro) or have the pro mode with manual controls like shutter speed available (Lumio Cam for instance). I'm not sure how 'Limited' does affect most apps as I have only devices that have either 'Legacy' (which is the worst support level) or 'Full'/'Level 3' (best). Phone makers can integrate advanced manual controls in their native apps without relying (fully) on the Camera2 API because they manipulate the software on a deeper level but 3rd party devs need to rely on Camera2 API as far as I know.
Which are the best 3rd party camera apps to use? That's a new world for me.
Celludroid said:
By "custom" do you mean 3rd party camera apps or the native camera app of the phone? I'm mostly interested in pro video recording apps and as far as I can see they need 'Full' or 'Level 3' support to work at all (Filmic Pro) or have the pro mode with manual controls like shutter speed available (Lumio Cam for instance). I'm not sure how 'Limited' does affect most apps as I have only devices that have either 'Legacy' (which is the worst support level) or 'Full'/'Level 3' (best). Phone makers can integrate advanced manual controls in their native apps without relying (fully) on the Camera2 API because they manipulate the software on a deeper level but 3rd party devs need to rely on Camera2 API as far as I know.
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Not so deeper, rather their own APIs or just Qualcomm APIs (extended Camera1).
p10 plus doesn't seem to have full camera2 api at least till B177. Can anyone who's updated to Oreo confirm if there's any change in that case? Or any other updates considering camera app perhaps?
On stock Oreo (see blackball's thread in this forum) and the manual camera compatibility checker app from the play store shows this:
(Note 3rd party camera apps only use the 12mp colour sensor so the quality is not so good)
baddesthad said:
On stock Oreo (see blackball's thread in this forum) and the manual camera compatibility checker app from the play store shows this:
(Note 3rd party camera apps only use the 12mp colour sensor so the quality is not so good)
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Thanks! Manual camera compatibility checker shows the same for me (stock Android 7.0/EMUI 5.1) yet, I haven't managed to get manual shutter working on any 3rd party app when using video recording. I didn't check the camera2 api myself, someone had wrote about it mentioning that Huawei flagships (p9, p10 etc.) doesn't have full camera2 api or it's restricted for system app. Can someone confirm this?
I'm trying to solve this for video recording only, so it doesn't matter if 3rd party apps can't handle the monochrome sensor. I've purchased both Cinema FV-5 and ProShot and neither seem to work with manual video controls.
By the way, Huawei Developer center is updating their support for 3rd party development and on their web page seem to have dual camera abilities "coming soon". Does anyone have any idea what that could mean?