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Considering the S4 mess with octa core support I'm not sure on what Note3 cpu model to follow... I'm tempted to get the N9000 because of the promised extra power of the cpu, also I'm living in a development country without LTE support. But previous experience with S4 cpu (currently got an I9500) is making the decision not so easy. Any input or opinion is welcomed.
Thanks.
I'm going to buy a Note 3 too and even though there is no LTE support in the country i live in, i'd prefer the reliability and core clock speed of qualcomm snapdragon 800 to the so-called octa core exynos chipset. And plus there are more roms for i9500 which is the LTE version and im thinking that this tradition will continue.
battle1 said:
I'm going to buy a Note 3 too and even though there is no LTE support in the country i live in, i'd prefer the reliability and core clock speed of qualcomm snapdragon 800 to the so-called octa core exynos chipset. And plus there are more roms for i9500 which is the LTE version and im thinking that this tradition will continue.
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More roms for the i9500?
surely a typo... there are far more roms for i9505 which is the Snapdragon 800 variant.
Thanks for your input.
I much prefer the Snapdragon to the Exynos setup. The Exynos solution consists of two quad-core processors, one with more processing capability and higher power requirements, one with lower (seems kind of like a less efficient version of Tegra 3's five core setup) - Having one more powerful, efficient quad core is a better solution IMO, even if they enable heterogeneous processing across both quad cores in the Exynos setup. Mobile apps will benefit from more single and lightly threaded performance than multi-threaded capability IMO.
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More roms for the i9500?
surely a typo... there are far more roms for i9505 which is the Snapdragon 800 variant.
Thanks for your input.
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Sorry i meant i9505 as i said that i liked snapdragon 800(N9005) version better.
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Sorry i meant i9505 as i said that i liked snapdragon 800(N9005) version better.
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Understood. Thanks again for the comments.
BTW, just get a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 32GB LTE (AT&T) (Unlocked) from Negri Elect. $744.50 usd, shipping 10/3.
The only issue is the waiting time to get it.
Apart from the CPU difference there is the HD video one as well.
The N9000 records at 1080p 1920x1080 while N9005 records at 4K 3840 x 2160
I think this proves that the octacore is a indeed more powerful and can handle 4K video recording.
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Apart from the CPU difference there is the HD video one as well.
The N9000 records at 1080p 1920x1080 while N9005 records at 4K 3840 x 2160
I think this proves that the octacore is a indeed more powerful and can handle 4K video recording.
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Except it's the S800 version that's able to record 4k video.. N9005 is the Snapdragon 800 version and during IFA Samsung specifically said that 4K recording was only available on the S800 variant. I find it strange that the Exynos version doesn't support it.
so which one is best for tmobile( hspa+ AND lte )? n9005? I hope so, because I'm tired of the missing exynos drivers. Snapdragon800 please
I will be getting N9005,just because of the higher CPU clock,and better development support.
s800 version not supporting non European countries sim cards?
Did you get the news guys?
This is a total mess!!
I Wonder if there is something we can do.
But are there any benchmarks to tell us more about n9000 ?
lynx2025 said:
Did you get the news guys?
This is a total mess!!
I Wonder if there is something we can do.
But are there any benchmarks to tell us more about n9000 ?
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What? That's got to be some corporate cellular pprovider money grubbing monkey business. Thanks for the heads up
I got the 9005 model and it is very stable and smoth.
When I first used it the heat generated on the back was too much. But then it settled down.
Now it heats a bit also. I did not have this experience with my last note 2.
I hope someone who has access to both devices can test for that and let us know..
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I just watched review about n9000 vs n9005
is it true that n9000 has more total ram and internal storage compare to n9005?
i have the n9005 and the internal storage is 26.36gb, i guess they tested on a pre-release/ carrier rom. Total ram is 2440mb.
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From what I've seen in terms of benchmarks the n9005 is faster. In terms of rom support I guess the S800 version will get more roms and cm.
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N9005
Snapdragon 800 - 2.3Ghz
Adreno 330 GPU
4K Video Record and Playback
LTE Support
2.4GB available RAM
N900
Exynos 5 Octa 5420 - 1.9Ghz
Mali-T628 MP6 GPU
NO 4K Video Record and Playback (I seen test video at China forum before, it confirm cannot playback the 4K video)
NO LTE Support
2.7GB available RAM
Benchmark Result
I am still cant take choice
Hi all
Now i have n900 , i feel camera not good for take picture for moving things even in sport mode , i will buy another one to my friend and i want to gave him good advice if n9005 will be better and faster , because camera is one of important thing , also he will use it replacing by his tablet that mean hard work so what you think n900 or n9005 , LTE for us not important now Fast and stability is our issue.
Exynos Vs Snapdragon
I'd love to see various benchmarks/power consumption statistics with different cores on/off.
A-7's 1 on at min clock
A-7's all 4 at max clock
A-7's overclocked/undervolted
4 A-7's and 1 A-15 all at max clock
just 4 A-15's
a single A-15 at min clock
All 8 at max clock
all 8 undervolted/overclocked
These all are necessary to know before considering the N9000.
If this info is not available, the N9005 is the clear choice.
If you see the rom support as of now the n9005 is already winning in those terms.
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Hi to all!
Please write here your opinion why snap or octa better?
Not just bla-bla-bla, but real things and knowledge!!!
Thank you!
I've voted for Octa because I no need LTE and 4K video. So Octa is more interesting, modern, perspectiv. I hope it'll be less power consumption with same or better performance as Snap.
My reasons for Octa:
1. 4 powerful + 4 efficient cores which can work simultaneously -> better CPU performance and better battery life
2. More RAM available (2.72 GB vs 2.38 GB)
3. Better sound (Wolfson DAC vs Qualcomm DAC)
Pros of Snap which don't bother me:
1. LTE. We don't have LTE in Ukraine. IMHO, even with new Qualcomm QFE1100 chip LTE will drain more battery than GSM/UMTS. It just improves situation compare to other LTE solutions but GSM/UMTS operation is still superior in this regard.
2. 4K recording. Too large video files. I think 1080p 60fps is more important.
3. Supposedly better GPU performance. I don't play games.
Didn't know some countries or rather telecoms don't have LTE still. It'd be like going back 5 years, can't imagine tethering my tablet on 3G...
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slimslim said:
Didn't know some countries or rather telecoms don't have LTE still. It'd be like going back 5 years, can't imagine tethering my tablet on 3G...
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Our telecoms are bragging about LTE and we have covered 20% of the country. 5,6 towns have limited lte depends where you are and beside
that they are charging a lot for LTE. Mostly in Europe, Eastern countries doesnt have proper LTE but everyone are using Snap version still...
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My reasons for Octa:
1. 4 powerful + 4 efficient cores which can work simultaneously -> better CPU performance and better battery life
2. More RAM available (2.72 GB vs 2.38 GB)
3. Better sound (Wolfson DAC vs Qualcomm DAC)
Pros of Snap which don't bother me:
1. LTE. We don't have LTE in Ukraine. IMHO, even with new Qualcomm QFE1100 chip LTE will drain more battery than GSM/UMTS. It just improves situation compare to other LTE solutions but GSM/UMTS operation is still superior in this regard.
2. 4K recording. Too large video files. I think 1080p 60fps is more important.
3. Supposedly better GPU performance. I don't play games.
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Where did you find the info on the DAC?
Three Reasons for the Samsung Exynos 5 Octa 5420:
1) Notably more memory bandwidth 14.9 GB/s vs 12.8 GB/s
2.10 GB/s more memory bandwidth. This is the maximum rate that data can be read from or stored into memory.
2) Considerably higher ram speed 1866 vs 800
1066 higher ram speed. It can support faster memory, which will give quicker system performance.
3) Supports hardware-assisted virtualization Yes vs No
it is easier to obtain better performance when using virtualization if it is hardware-assisted.
Three Reasons for the Qualcomm Snapdragon 800:
1) Shorter 10 mm vs 11 mm 1 mm shorter.
2) Explicitly narrower 10 mm vs 12 mm 2 mm narrower.
3) Reasonably faster CPU clock speed 27.78% faster CPU clock speed.
Edit: Forgot the source of this info
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Where did you find the info on the DAC?
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I know you asked him, but I read somewhere ( easy to google for it) that Samsung signed a long-term deal with Wolfson.
I also read that the DAC on the S800 is integrated so guess which one is getting the Wolfson?
Anyway I am not in a hurry , so I will be playing with the Phone in the showrooms quite a lot before I make any decision,,
As I said before, it's difficult, but not being in a hurry, is a good thing....
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Three Reasons for the Samsung Exynos 5 Octa 5420:
1) Notably more memory bandwidth 14.9 GB/s vs 12.8 GB/s
2.10 GB/s more memory bandwidth. This is the maximum rate that data can be read from or stored into memory.
2) Considerably higher ram speed 1866 vs 800
1066 higher ram speed. It can support faster memory, which will give quicker system performance.
3) Supports hardware-assisted virtualization Yes vs No
it is easier to obtain better performance when using virtualization if it is hardware-assisted.
Three Reasons for the Qualcomm Snapdragon 800:
1) Shorter 10 mm vs 11 mm 1 mm shorter.
2) Explicitly narrower 10 mm vs 12 mm 2 mm narrower.
3) Reasonably faster CPU clock speed 27.78% faster CPU clock speed.
Edit: Forgot the source of this info
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Just pointing out that both versions have the same performace, as a 1,9Ghz Octa matches (or beats) a 2.3 Ghz snapdragon.
Same happened with the S4, and now that the Note 3 can use all 8 cores we will see.
And I also believe both versions are identical in size.
I would pick the octa for two simple reasons:
4G in Qatar only started this year and has weird bands that no phone supports, except for custom made 4G keys.
I'm interested in the ability to use all 8 cores at once.
I'm also interested on what people will do to improve on that aspect with kernels, It seems a fun little ride
I would pick the S800 version if I desire down the line, but I'll start with the Octa first.
PS: I have a weird fetish love for exynos for some reason, even knowing the not so open behaviour.
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2) Considerably higher ram speed 1866 vs 800
1066 higher ram speed. It can support faster memory, which will give quicker system performance.
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Where would you find the info regarding that 3 GB RAM?
Edit; Got it. According to anandtech exynos 5420 supports up to 1866 MHz.
thekoRngear said:
Where would you find the info regarding that 3 GB RAM?
According to wikipedia (yeah, know it is viewed as not-so-reliable) both the MSM8974AB and Exynos 5420 have 32-bit dual-channel 933 MHz LPDDR3e (14.9 GB/sec). Even if the note version snapdragon doesn't have that AB tag it will be 800 MHz (12.8 GB/s) which is not that far behind.
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Here is the source of that comparison:
http://versus.com/en
It could be bogus .... big chance it is ....
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I NEED LTE. Since having it, I can't see myself using anything slower.
SgtGoldy said:
I NEED LTE. Since having it, I can't see myself using anything slower.
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Ditto
ussrxoden said:
My reasons for Octa:
1. 4 powerful + 4 efficient cores which can work simultaneously -> better CPU performance and better battery life
2. More RAM available (2.72 GB vs 2.38 GB)
3. Better sound (Wolfson DAC vs Qualcomm DAC)
Pros of Snap which don't bother me:
1. LTE. We don't have LTE in Ukraine. IMHO, even with new Qualcomm QFE1100 chip LTE will drain more battery than GSM/UMTS. It just improves situation compare to other LTE solutions but GSM/UMTS operation is still superior in this regard.
2. 4K recording. Too large video files. I think 1080p 60fps is more important.
3. Supposedly better GPU performance. I don't play games.
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1. I live in chicago and I'm going to need that hella fast LTE
2. The 4k recording
betoNL said:
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I know you asked him, but I read somewhere ( easy to google for it) that Samsung signed a long-term deal with Wolfson.
I also read that the DAC on the S800 is integrated so guess which one is getting the Wolfson?
Anyway I am not in a hurry , so I will be playing with the Phone in the showrooms quite a lot before I make any decision,,
As I said before, it's difficult, but not being in a hurry, is a good thing....
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Lame. Well, I am not in a hurry either, my work offered to buy me any device I wanted. I have an HTC One, tried the SGS4, G Pro, 1020 and the 5S is just to small. The only thing left was the Note 3
No choice. Only Octa will be available. And I want Octa for true 8 core mode.
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Yeah even I would go for octane...I would love to have all 8 cores working...a true octa core
Not sure yet.
Don't care much about 4k video. 4G isn't widely available in India yet but should spread in the next couple of years. Still plans will probably be expensive for a while so I can live without it for the next 2-3 years.
Probably the biggest issue for me would be battery life. The S800 seems to do well and battery life on the G2 appears to be superb. Not sure how the Octa matches up here, we will have to wait for reviews.
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Lame. Well, I am not in a hurry either, my work offered to buy me any device I wanted. I have an HTC One, tried the SGS4, G Pro, 1020 and the 5S is just to small. The only thing left was the Note 3
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However.....
There is a chance the S800 will carry the Wolfson
Just found this info:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/678952/samsung-galaxy-note-3-24-bit-192khz/30#post_9816900
How do they disable the System on chip DAC?
tattari
i really don't know , i just read it
LG's upcoming G2 phone packs in modern features including 5.2" HD IPS screen, 13 MP camera with 8x digital zoom and the ability to play lossless 24-bit/192kHz audio files. Coming with the Snapdragon 2.26GHz quad core CPU, 32GB ROM and 1920 x 1080 full HD IPS screen, the new G2 sports a variety of modern features. Now that Wolfson's latest WM5110 mobile 24-bit/192kHz DAC chip is showing up in devices, first reported in May 23 here @ Enjoy the Music.com's Industry News page, audiophiles and high fidelity enthusiasts will soon be able to travel with a single device to hear their high resolution music and answer phone calls plus other mobile computing tasks. Wolfson's M5110 is the industry's first quad core High Definition (HD) Audio Processor System-on-a-Chip (SoC). This new highly-integrated, low power HD Audio Processor with advanced DSP feature set is designed to deliver HD Audio performance of 24-bit/192kHz for smartphones, tablet computers and portable multimedia devices. The WM5110 provides 110dB signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) and a fast 600 MIPS of processing power, while only requiring 3mW DAC to headphone power consumption, making it the most powerful and efficient HD Audio Processor on the market. Other features of LG's G2 include Audio Zooming that enables users to zero in on specific audio source by zooming in on your subject while recording video. This unique feature uses three stereo mikes, which amplify sound from the specified angle and deemphasize the surrounding noise. If you want to enjoy the music, then simply plug in your headphones and go. The unit provides easy file sync simply by plugging in a USB cable and the G2 intuitively shows you the icons for features that require earphones or USB cables when you plug them in. This allows faster access to the apps you desire. The LG G2 comes with a large 3000 mAh battery for hour after hour of musical pleasure
and that's the source link
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/news/0813/
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i wouldn't call my self an audiophile , but i really do appreciate high quality music , and have a decent pair of cans that can produce good music
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OT: For Exynos version, GTS won't be shipped out-of-box. They will ship with core-migration.
GTS will be enabled later through some kernel/patch upgrades.
LTE is so overrated. Who's going to download a 1GB file on mobile data anyway. Most of the time, it'll be small packets and you won't even feel the difference in speed between LTE and HSPA+ for those.
Plus, battery blows on LTE. Even if I owned an LTE device, I'd still run it on HSPA+ because of the battery life.
Except for the S4, the Exynos is always better than the Qualcomm. On the S4, Qualcomm was better because it could run native AOSP and Exynos 4 didn't work correctly. However, the Exynos is always the preferred version and even pay premiums for it.
Galaxy S6 features:
Snapdragon 810
Notable features:
64 bit octa-core CPU running at up to 2.5 GHz
4 MB of cache
4K UHD video upscale & play
4Kx2K @60fps play
Dual camera image signal processor
Adreno 430 GPU
IZat Gen8B
USB 2.0 and 3.0
20 nm HKMG
LTE cat6/7 with 300 MB/s only MSM8994
Yeah, and probably it won't have a battery. You'll need a power outlet to use it and the mobility depends strictly on the length of the cable .
At least this seems to be the new thing. Who needs a big battery when you can have a thin and useless phone?
snapdragon 810
Those Specs are Real:
The Galaxy S5 has a Snapdragon 805
And the Galaxy S6 will have the Snapdragon 810
You wont see the 64 bit 8 core Snapdragon 810 untill the Galaxy S6 even though it is already fully working and finished.
SJGSM said:
Those Specs are Real:
The Galaxy S5 has a Snapdragon 805
And the Galaxy S6 will have the Snapdragon 810
You wont see the 64 bit 8 core Snapdragon 810 untill the Galaxy S6 even though it is already fully working and finished.
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And who are you? Most tech sites are already showing the S5 as having an overclocked 2.5ghz Snap800. Not that an 805 is entirely impossible but roadmaps from qualcomm don't put it being out until later summer. Also I'm 100% calling BS on your "S6 specs"
What's the term? Put up or shut up. Prove it
http://galaxysamsungs6.com
Guys its a blog of mine you can check details on s6
sahil_arora05 said:
http://galaxysamsungs6.com
Guys its a blog of mine you can check details on s6
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The specs for the S5 hasnt been confirmed yet and you are speculating about s6?
daraj said:
The specs for the S5 hasnt been confirmed yet and you are speculating about s6?
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Yes buddy y can't we? Its just speculations based on the previous devices of galaxy s series and some future expectations. Isn't it good?
Might as well start speculating about the galaxy s7
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This might be a bit early but I got the sauce on the Galaxy S8. Samsung is planning to change the brand name from Galaxy to Universe so it will be the Universe S8. They hope to have Quantum Computation or xQC down by then. Early estimates show it will have up to a 5000% performance increase. Battery Life still 3 hours of screen time though.
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Galaxy S6 features:
Snapdragon 810
Notable features:
64 bit octa-core CPU running at up to 2.5 GHz
4 MB of cache
4K UHD video upscale & play
4Kx2K @60fps play
Dual camera image signal processor
Adreno 430 GPU
IZat Gen8B
USB 2.0 and 3.0
20 nm HKMG
LTE cat6/7 with 300 MB/s only MSM8994
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LMAO!
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someone just traveled on a time machine and had a peek over specs
This thread is based on complete speculation and has nothing to do with this sub forum which is for the Samsung Galaxy S 5.
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Hi everyone,
after reading almost every topic, test and comparison between the F and the C models, i still have a couple of question
it seems that the exynos model is slightly supperior to the snapdragon
what about the battery life of the two models on marshmallow ?
i read that they were two cameras, but are there really any differences ?
i am based in france, therefore with the C model i may not be able to use 4G, (i don't really care as my 4g is already turned of on my current phone), but will i see difference regarding gps, or cellular ?
many thanks for your help !
The Exynos 5433 is actually the superior chipset in my personal opinion as it is a 64bit Octocore SOC rather than a Quadcore 32bit SOC that the Snapdragon 805 is. While the Snapdragon 805 may have a higher clock speed rate, it has the tendency to run full throttle when doing anything. Which causes it to overheat pretty easily. The Exynos 5433 has a higher clocked Quadcore SOC for tasks that require allot of processing power and a lower clocked Quadcore SOC, which is used for general everyday use or tasks which require less processing power. Battery life is much better for the Exynos 5433 as it is more energy efficient than the Snapdragon 805. Camera performance is more or less the same with the only difference is that the Exynos 5433 uses Samsung's own inhouse 16MP ISOCELL sensor and the Snapdragon 805 variants use the Sony 16MP Exmor sensor. In terms of cellular connectivity both the N910C and N910F support the LTE/4G bands as they are both international devices. GPS coverage is probably about the same too.
Hello,
thanks a lot for your explanations
http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max_2-8582.php
no improvement - 6.44" (1080x1920 pixels)
no improvement - 12MP (2160p)
good improvement - 6GB RAM (Snapdragon 626)
slight imprvement - 5000mAh (Li-Ion)
The SOC feels like a downgrade
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big improvement - NFC
Some rumors about a SD 660 chipset. Otherwise I dont know how the 626 compares to 650. Is the camera alot better I might be interested anyway. My wife can get my mi max 1 then
The camera will be a great improvement (Sony imx 378)
keithleyson said:
The SOC feels like a downgrade
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Yeah, if that really is the SoC with 3 year old A53-s, its a downgrade.
Keep the price at around $300 for the 128gb version and it will be a steal even with a slightly better soc and camera.
SD626 isn't as good as SD652/3 but it has best endurance. With proper optimization, it may lead this area. SD626+5000mAh is definitely much much better.
Also these guys are downgrading SOC to keep costs same. See the way Redmi Note series did.
bluheart said:
SD626 isn't as good as SD652/3 but it has best endurance. With proper optimization, it may lead this area. SD626+5000mAh is definitely much much better.
Also these guys are downgrading SOC to keep costs same. See the way Redmi Note series did.
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It's not about price, it's about supply... Xiaomi is too nobady to get on the 660 wagon. Even bigger and more reputable players on the market have hard times to secure 660 from Qualcomm in quantities they need.
Yes! That's the biggest point, true.
The topper here is SD625+5000mAh phone.
The 626 will get better battery life at the expense of performance, like the Redmi Note 3 vs Note 4 Snapdragon variants. I guess most people won't be able to tell the performance difference but they can definitely tell battery life changes.
The great thing about the 650/652 is that it could be really fast if you wanted it or really efficient. The 615 and 626 don't have that ability because they don't have powerful A72 cores. The 660 would be the best but I doubt that will make it into a lot of phones as it could jeopardize flagship sales... Who needs the latest 8xx SoC when a 66x at half the price is good enough?
I have the 650 soc Max, using it as a mini tablet at home. If the Max 2 have richer duel speakers; better contrast screen and 660 soc. I will likely upgrade, otherwise the current Max is good enough.
Xiaomi Mi Max 2 has been released.
Xiaomi Mi Max 2 Smartphone Main Features:
Display: 6.44 Inch, 1920 x 1080
CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 Octa Core
RAM + ROM: 4GB RAM + 128GB/64GB ROM
Camera: 5.0MP front camera + 12.0MP 5 element lens, f/2.0 aperture back camera
No Snapdragon 660, only 625
Battery is 5300mAh
http://en.miui.com/thread-617857-1-1.html
i can't believe it, snapdragon 650 to 625 is an upgrade???
it's a huge mistake and very disappointing
also i hoped for a better LCD which is the same
Look at the bright side... No need to upgrade....
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Look at the bright side... No need to upgrade....
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Absolutely true Buddy! Let's upgrade next year when Max3 with possibly SD770 will be out.
Beat to attract new comers to huge screen phones not for an upgrade.
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/22103...-1080p-display-5300mah-battery-announced.html
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Relieved to read the specs of this phone. No need to upgrade if you own a Max. On the contrary, buy one when the priced fall a bit as the Max 2 is released. It has a better SoC.