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Do you think that the Tubro will get rooted and unlocked?

Just decided to get the Turbo since the N6 is taking way too long to get released on Verizon. The black friday deals helped me get the phone for $50 today so I could not resist that deal for top of the line hardware.
What I am wondering though is what the community thinks about developer support for this phone? Do you think the bootloader will be unlocked? Do you think there will be root access?
If both of those are obtained do you think there will even be enough support for the phone to have some fun with ROMs? Honestly the only thing that I want to get my phone unlocked and rooted for is to get rid of all the bloatware that verizon put on my phone. The ONLY reason. The OS is stock enough for me already but I want to get rid of all those crappy red apps along with all these amazon promotions...
So what do you think? Is it possible to get rid of the bloatware without rooting or unlocking?

hfcobra said:
Just decided to get the Turbo since the N6 is taking way too long to get released on Verizon. The black friday deals helped me get the phone for $50 today so I could not resist that deal for top of the line hardware.
What I am wondering though is what the community thinks about developer support for this phone? Do you think the bootloader will be unlocked? Do you think there will be root access?
If both of those are obtained do you think there will even be enough support for the phone to have some fun with ROMs? Honestly the only thing that I want to get my phone unlocked and rooted for is to get rid of all the bloatware that verizon put on my phone. The ONLY reason. The OS is stock enough for me already but I want to get rid of all those crappy red apps along with all these amazon promotions...
So what do you think? Is it possible to get rid of the bloatware without rooting or unlocking?
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Disabling apps seems to work just as well as Titanium Backup. The only real difference I can think of is that the apps are not deleted from your phone, so while being able to remove bloat without root, it appears we still cant gain the used storage space back.
Here is a useful guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/guide-how-to-disable-verizon-apps-droid-t2948849

hfcobra said:
Just decided to get the Turbo since the N6 is taking way too long to get released on Verizon. The black friday deals helped me get the phone for $50 today so I could not resist that deal for top of the line hardware.
What I am wondering though is what the community thinks about developer support for this phone? Do you think the bootloader will be unlocked? Do you think there will be root access?
If both of those are obtained do you think there will even be enough support for the phone to have some fun with ROMs? Honestly the only thing that I want to get my phone unlocked and rooted for is to get rid of all the bloatware that verizon put on my phone. The ONLY reason. The OS is stock enough for me already but I want to get rid of all those crappy red apps along with all these amazon promotions...
So what do you think? Is it possible to get rid of the bloatware without rooting or unlocking?
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Disabling apps is a good option without root. Hard to say about root or BL unlock. Right now its seems extremely unlikely it will happen any time in the near future. Only hope is that the Moto Maxx will get a developer following which is close enough to Turbo.
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coreywallen said:
Disabling apps is a good option without root. Hard to say about root or BL unlock. Right now its seems extremely unlikely it will happen any time in the near future. Only hope is that the Moto Maxx will get a developer following which is close enough to Turbo.
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I have this thought in the back of my head that the Moto Maxx and its unlocked bootloader will help us obtain root and bl unlock on the turbo. Its literally the exact same phone, I feel devs may have enough freedom to play around with the files of the Maxx, and find some similarities and exploits usable on the Turbo. Just my thought. Its the same phone and with supported unlock. Its so close to our turbos.

We might get root, and probably will at some point down the road. I doubt we will ever get an unlocked bootloader. The work that goes into doing that is very substantial, and with this being an exclusive device, is very unlikely.
Question for the OP.... why wouldn't you just buy the Nexus 6 straight from Google? Why is everyone talking about having to wait for Verizon to get it? But it from Google, and activate it on your account. Simple as that.

pjcforpres said:
We might get root, and probably will at some point down the road. I doubt we will ever get an unlocked bootloader. The work that goes into doing that is very substantial, and with this being an exclusive device, is very unlikely.
Question for the OP.... why wouldn't you just buy the Nexus 6 straight from Google? Why is everyone talking about having to wait for Verizon to get it? But it from Google, and activate it on your account. Simple as that.
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Have you tried getting it from the Play store? lol. It's like hoping to win the lottery, except you have to play all the time, every second of the day.

if no devs working on Droid turbo.we will never ever see bl unlocked or root
like happens with Droid maxx

I'm on an old contract with a family plan and we pay $100 for the plan and $30 per smartphone. From how I understand it the plan does not make you pay for the phone over time. When you upgrade you just get that money off. So I'd be paying $400 extra for the Nexus than I'd have to.

pjcforpres said:
We might get root, and probably will at some point down the road. I doubt we will ever get an unlocked bootloader. The work that goes into doing that is very substantial, and with this being an exclusive device, is very unlikely.
Question for the OP.... why wouldn't you just buy the Nexus 6 straight from Google? Why is everyone talking about having to wait for Verizon to get it? But it from Google, and activate it on your account. Simple as that.
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Plus the deals they had today were just TOO good. $200 off a turbo? I couldv'e "bought" the 32gb version for free.
Don't get me wrong. I love the phone. Easily the best 5.2in phone out there. I just want to root to help battery even more and help get rid of apps I don't use while adding a few features I will.

I too jumped on the 64gb turbo yesterday. After trading in my OG Droid for $100 off the phone cost $60 after tax.. Comparing this to the N6 isn't fair.. The N6 is huge. As much as I want Nexus, and all that cones with that I just can't use a 6" phone on a daily basis..

lazarus2297 said:
I too jumped on the 64gb turbo yesterday. After trading in my OG Droid for $100 off the phone cost $60 after tax.. Comparing this to the N6 isn't fair.. The N6 is huge. As much as I want Nexus, and all that cones with that I just can't use a 6" phone on a daily basis..
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I was really excited for the N6 since it was first announced. Being 6'5" I was sure I'd love it. Went to the store the other day and I just couldn't shake how silly it looked in my hands. Such an enourmouse device. Screen was amazing though. I wish it was 5.7" and the same shape. Then it would be slightly smaller than the Note 4 since it makes better use of screen size efficiency. That would have been perfect IMO.
Now I'm hoping the turbo gets the Dev support it needs so I have the best of both worlds!

hfcobra said:
Plus the deals they had today were just TOO good. $200 off a turbo? I couldv'e "bought" the 32gb version for free.
Don't get me wrong. I love the phone. Easily the best 5.2in phone out there. I just want to root to help battery even more and help get rid of apps I don't use while adding a few features I will.
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I get taking advantage of discounts / contracts. I was just saying, I see a bunch of people saying they can't wait any longer for the Nexus to come out on Verizon, when you can already get it from Google or eBay, or Amazon... and use it with Verizon. Heck, you can but it from T-Mobile, and use it with Verizon. And was wondering why people keep saying they can't wait any longer for Verizon to carry it, when that has no impact on it working with their network, and only impacts getting it either at a 2yr agreement price / spreading payments out over 2 years.

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I get taking advantage of discounts / contracts. I was just saying, I see a bunch of people saying they can't wait any longer for the Nexus to come out on Verizon, when you can already get it from Google or eBay, or Amazon... and use it with Verizon. Heck, you can but it from T-Mobile, and use it with Verizon. And was wondering why people keep saying they can't wait any longer for Verizon to carry it, when that has no impact on it working with their network, and only impacts getting it either at a 2yr agreement price / spreading payments out over 2 years.
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And if you're lucky it may be covered with Verizon logos and full of bloatware with a locked boot loader! We love you Verizon and all the things you do for us!
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Note 5 carrier limitations

I told myself I'd never go back to a TouchWiz device, but alas here I am getting ready to make a move to the Note 5. I'm also switching carriers as T-mobile gets terrible service at my new home. While comparing AT&T and Verizon, I noticed that Verizon may not end up supporting Samsung Pay.
So I thought I would take this discussion here (if it belongs in Q&A please move it): What sort of carrier limitations will be placed on the Note 5 by AT&T or Verizon? Any insight to help me choose which version to go with would be a big help.
Along with not supporting Samsung Pay, I've heard that Verizon still is stubborn as hell with locking down their phones. It would be a deal breaker if I'm unable to root.
Anything else I should expect when deciding on the carrier?

Take your pick as far as locked down phones are concerned. I think both AT&T and Verizon are equally bad on locking down devices.
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You wont be unlocking your device ever if you want to use samsung pay, you can't use it on a rooted device period for security reasons.

We should be able to sue if Verizon blocks Samsung pay...
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You can sue anyone for anything in the US. Whether you would win or not, or want to pay the lawyer fees, is another story...
So go ahead. ?
Or were you just complaining?

Kaboose666 said:
You wont be unlocking your device ever if you want to use samsung pay, you can't use it on a rooted device period for security reasons.
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You sure about this? Unless I'm mistaken people have been using Google Wallet with rooted devices for a while.

hahajoker said:
You sure about this? Unless I'm mistaken people have been using Google Wallet with rooted devices for a while.
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I am 99% sure, Samsung uses Knox security and when your device boots up Knox does a security check on the device, if it detects root, samsung pay will NOT work, period. Ever. You can't reset it, once it detects it you're pretty much F'd. And it's still up in the air if that will affect your hardware warranty or not, though I doubt it will.
This is specific to Knox and samsung pay.

Kaboose666 said:
I am 99% sure, Samsung uses Knox security and when your device boots up Knox does a security check on the device, if it detects root, samsung pay will NOT work, period. Ever. You can't reset it, once it detects it you're pretty much F'd. And it's still up in the air if that will affect your hardware warranty or not, though I doubt it will.
This is specific to Knox and samsung pay.
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Thanks for the info. I forgot all about good ol Knox and all the bull**** that comes with it. I want to like the Note 5 but Samsung is making it really hard.

hahajoker said:
Thanks for the info. I forgot all about good ol Knox and all the bull**** that comes with it. I want to like the Note 5 but Samsung is making it really hard.
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Well I am using my note5 and I have to say I really do enjoy the phone, but I am coming from an LG G2, coming from something else it may not be as good of an option.

Kaboose666 said:
Well I am using my note5 and I have to say I really do enjoy the phone, but I am coming from an LG G2, coming from something else it may not be as good of an option.
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I'm coming from a nexus 6. I love my phone and I'd rather not switch but in order to get free of T-mobile the cheapest route is to upgrade to a flip phone and pay it off immediately. That means I have to turn in my Nexus.

Verizon has always been super slow to support anything. ATT has too, but not as slow as Verizon. Verizon and samsung pay.

mircury said:
Verizon has always been super slow to support anything. ATT has too, but not as slow as Verizon. Verizon and samsung pay.
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Think I'm done with Verizon. Att offering $300 to switch. Think I'm going to do it. And get monthly data rollover.
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Leasing and Rooting/Flashing ROMS

Hey everyone,
So I currently own a S4 on Sprint and it's rooted with a custom ROM and I use the mobile hotspot for my internet at home ( can't get any decent internet in the apartment I live in ). I have been looking into finally upgrading to the S7, but it's a little too pricey to outright buy it so I am looking into leasing it.
I have never leased a phone so I am not sure how it works in regards to rooting, flashing ROMS, and most importantly for me at the moment the mobile hotspot. I have never had an issue so far with getting throttled or been warned about my data usage from Sprint so far, but I'm not sure if their policies change if I start leasing a phone from them. I figure when it comes time to turn my phone back in I could flash it back to stock. I remember though that with KNOX even if you flash back to stock the warranty would still be voided and I'm not sure if that would be a problem when I try to flash back to stock before returning the phone.
Any guidance on the issue would be appreciated.

I also upgraded from a S4. right now i have a S7 that i just got today. flashing and rooting should have no affect except that your warranty will be void. if you really care, then you can always flash stock rom via odin after you download the firmware from SamMobile. my S4 has been rooted and went through like 10 different roms.

If Knox is tripped my understanding is some features won't work. I could see this being problematic upon return. Though if you're careful and don't trip knox as long as you flash back I don't see it would be an issue.

VeriSkye said:
If Knox is tripped my understanding is some features won't work. I could see this being problematic upon return. Though if you're careful and don't trip knox as long as you flash back I don't see it would be an issue.
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Is it possible to not trip Knox these days? If I remember correctly there was a time when there was no way around it.

sj7ftw said:
Is it possible to not trip Knox these days? If I remember correctly there was a time when there was no way around it.
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No, there is no known way not to trip knox unless you have a factory engineering image

Depending on your plan, Hotspot is included if you have one of the gig bucket plans. Use to have to do Hotspot tweaks too,
I went from the 1500 unlimited data, to a 3gig plan and Hotspot is included.
My plan with 2 ezpay s7 phones and 3 gigs is much less than I was paying. Plus I never use more than 3 gigs, usually way less with wifi.

sj7ftw said:
Is it possible to not trip Knox these days? If I remember correctly there was a time when there was no way around it.
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I thought it was. But I've been living in the HTC world for a while so I admittedly haven't kept up like I used to.

I am also leasing my s7 edge.
I dont think there would be an issue root and roming the phone, as long as:
A; you do not call sprint for software issues.
B; if you do, put stock back on the phone before hand.
If you have hardware issues, its OK to call sprint, just dont tell them the phone is rooted. You will have to put the phone back to stock (hopefully knox resets when this happens) to return the phone for hardware replacement.
I've replaced my Samsung phones so many times. I have the monthly insurance.

Thanks for the replies... If anyone does know how to reset Knox/warranty bit when going back to stock let me know. Now to wait for a hotspot mod. I do have GalaxyTools still on my S4. Anyone know if that would work?

There is no way to reset Knox.

sj7ftw said:
Hey everyone,
So I currently own a S4 on Sprint and it's rooted with a custom ROM and I use the mobile hotspot for my internet at home ( can't get any decent internet in the apartment I live in ). I have been looking into finally upgrading to the S7, but it's a little too pricey to outright buy it so I am looking into leasing it.
I have never leased a phone so I am not sure how it works in regards to rooting, flashing ROMS, and most importantly for me at the moment the mobile hotspot. I have never had an issue so far with getting throttled or been warned about my data usage from Sprint so far, but I'm not sure if their policies change if I start leasing a phone from them. I figure when it comes time to turn my phone back in I could flash it back to stock. I remember though that with KNOX even if you flash back to stock the warranty would still be voided and I'm not sure if that would be a problem when I try to flash back to stock before returning the phone.
Any guidance on the issue would be appreciated.
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The S7 in my op is so far above the S4 it is scary. Well worth your lease. Also if at the end of the lease terms you want to buy the phone Sprint has options. I got a loyalty discount on my lease at 50% off. With the buy option at the end leasing the phone I would save around 200$ as opposed to buying it out right.

No way to untrip Knox, and it IS against the terms of your lease, just FYI.

Right now this is all moot. Bootloader is locked. Unfortunately.

All us is locked

Instead of leasing there is the payment to own, this way you are buying it instead. I didn't there was leasing option for the S7 yet.

As far as the payment to own... i dont understand why anyone would want to do that? It seems much better to sign two years and pay $250.00 in stead of paying the full price after payments are said and done. Am i missing something? or i don't see a bigger picture everyone else does.

lost0138 said:
As far as the payment to own... i dont understand why anyone would want to do that? It seems much better to sign two years and pay $250.00 in stead of paying the full price after payments are said and done. Am i missing something? or i don't see a bigger picture everyone else does.
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The service costs more with a two-year contract, so there's that. It doesn't actually work out that you get the phone $500 cheaper. You make up for it in the cost of service.
IMO the Galaxy Forever is the way to go. New phone every 12 months, no need to worry about the battery being unreplaceable, an old Android having little resale value, etc.

lost0138 said:
As far as the payment to own... i dont understand why anyone would want to do that? It seems much better to sign two years and pay $250.00 in stead of paying the full price after payments are said and done. Am i missing something? or i don't see a bigger picture everyone else does.
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The only reason I have considered the leasing option with the payment to own is I got a huge discount through Sprint for being with them for over 10 years. Without that discount the lease option and the payment option are about the same end cost. As far as the 2 year contract, I have not been given that option through Sprint, the only time I see that option is for new customers when I am not signed into my account on the web site.
I am right now on the Galaxy for life program because I have opted for the lease with Sprint. Unless the next Note or Galaxy is a home run and includes a removable battery cover I don't know if I will opt for the upgrade when they come out. I really dig this GS7.

Sign and pass along
https://www.change.org/p/sprint-unl...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

Zer0C0oL said:
The only reason I have considered the leasing option with the payment to own is I got a huge discount through Sprint for being with them for over 10 years. Without that discount the lease option and the payment option are about the same end cost. As far as the 2 year contract, I have not been given that option through Sprint, the only time I see that option is for new customers when I am not signed into my account on the web site.
I am right now on the Galaxy for life program because I have opted for the lease with Sprint. Unless the next Note or Galaxy is a home run and includes a removable battery cover I don't know if I will opt for the upgrade when they come out. I really dig this GS7.
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That's why I did the lease too. I got $10 off a month and I get to upgrade next year. I love to upgrade so it was a no brainer for me.

Amazon Prime Edition

Is the version from Amazon with ads able to be rooted and rom'd to get rid of the annoying bloat? I'd love to save $60 but I don't want to deal with the advertisements and especially being unable to root/unlock/rom is a non starter.
TIA!

The bootloader cannot be unlocked currently and thus cannot be rooted. It will likely be a long time (if ever) before Amazon provides a method for unlocking the bootloader for it's version.

No.
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jolness1 said:
Is the version from Amazon with ads able to be rooted and rom'd to get rid of the annoying bloat? I'd love to save $60 but I don't want to deal with the advertisements and especially being unable to root/unlock/rom is a non starter.
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can get rid of ads and maybe root later on, but bootloader can't be unlocked so no custom roms, as someone who owns one i recommend not buying just isn't worth the saving

I figured as much, I didn't think Amazon would leave it open but I wasn't sure.
Definitely not worth saving $60 to lose all the functionality plus adding ads.
I wish the 32gb in the US came with 3gb of RAM but that would probably cannibalize the sales of the 64gb one. I have a Nexus 5x worth 2gb and it isn't quite enough, my girlfriend wants to switch to Android from an iPhone 5s but as cheaply as possible, looks like the $300 g5 is my best option for now.

jolness1 said:
I figured as much, I didn't think Amazon would leave it open but I wasn't sure.
Definitely not worth saving $60 to lose all the functionality plus adding ads.
I wish the 32gb in the US came with 3gb of RAM but that would probably cannibalize the sales of the 64gb one. I have a Nexus 5x worth 2gb and it isn't quite enough, my girlfriend wants to switch to Android from an iPhone 5s but as cheaply as possible, looks like the $300 g5 is my best option for now.
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if that's the case she would probably not need root or custom roms so maybe should go amz, u can remove the ads like i said, but then again who knows what will happen after update...

I want to custom rom it to add little things like one handed mode etc.
Not essential but definitely important enough to be worth $60 even without the ads.

Mods please delete

Why delete? You just saved me the headache of going with the Amazon variant. I'm going to save up the additional $60 and buy the fully unlocked version because of this thread. This is the only place that I found a definitive answer about whether or mot the Amazon variant bootloader could be unlocked. Thanks!

krison01 said:
can get rid of ads and maybe root later on, but bootloader can't be unlocked so no custom roms, as someone who owns one i recommend not buying just isn't worth the saving
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I completely agree. I got the Amazon version as I was hard up and my old phone just quit sudednly on me but I should have waited and spent the extra 60$. The adds aren't obtrusive but I miss the things that are possible with a rooted phone.
I'll probably try to pawn it off on one of my older family members that don't appriciate a rooted phone anyway and get myself the same phone without the adds.

jolness1 said:
I want to custom rom it to add little things like one handed mode etc.
Not essential but definitely important enough to be worth $60 even without the ads.
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Sounds like for what you want, the standard is best, but I also want to quickly point out that Moto Actions has the screen shrink feature built in for one handed mode and the default keyboard GBoard has one handed support built in as well.

Gword256 said:
I completely agree. I got the Amazon version as I was hard up and my old phone just quit sudednly on me but I should have waited and spent the extra 60$. The adds aren't obtrusive but I miss the things that are possible with a rooted phone.
I'll probably try to pawn it off on one of my older family members that don't appriciate a rooted phone anyway and get myself the same phone without the adds.
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brilliant i might do the same actually :laugh:

A few questions for the TMobile Variant

I'm pretty much sold on the thing, since I can unload my 3T at the same time--but a few questions first.
1: Can anyone test Samsung gear watches with the phone? I've read Samsung pay only works if you sideload the gear app, but would prefer it working 100% since I plan on staying unrooted.
2: VPNs have caused some issues on past carrier phones, basically using hotspot data rather than regular data. Can anyone just run a quick test to make sure this isn't the case? Mostly for use of Blokada.
3: Does RCS work? I know TMobile was rolling it out by device, but it seems this would be the perfect time to add it with the 6T.
Thanks!

GiSS88 said:
I'm pretty much sold on the thing, since I can unload my 3T at the same time--but a few questions first.
1: Can anyone test Samsung gear watches with the phone? I've read Samsung pay only works if you sideload the gear app, but would prefer it working 100% since I plan on staying unrooted.
2: VPNs have caused some issues on past carrier phones, basically using hotspot data rather than regular data. Can anyone just run a quick test to make sure this isn't the case? Mostly for use of Blokada.
3: Does RCS work? I know TMobile was rolling it out by device, but it seems this would be the perfect time to add it with the 6T.
Thanks!
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1. Setup my gear s3 and it works perfectly. Everything is sideloaded as you install from the galaxy Wearable app.
2. This device already seems to have a private VPN set up as default, didn't touch it but it gives you the option to add.
3. RCS I'm assuming does not work and depends on tmobile actually activating them over an OTA update.

Addiso said:
1. Setup my gear s3 and it works perfectly. Everything is sideloaded as you install from the galaxy Wearable app.
2. This device already seems to have a private VPN set up as default, didn't touch it but it gives you the option to add.
3. RCS I'm assuming does not work and depends on tmobile actually activating them over an OTA update.
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Thanks for the quick reply. For the gear stuff, I know it sideload through wear but I had read with the OP6 you had to get S-Pay from an apk mirror. Have you tested pay and it all works?

GiSS88 said:
Thanks for the quick reply. For the gear stuff, I know it sideload through wear but I had read with the OP6 you had to get S-Pay from an apk mirror. Have you tested pay and it all works?
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Haven't tried it, rocking it right now and it seems fine just when I had my v30. I can verify later on when I go put gas. I'll keep you updated if anything.

Addiso said:
Haven't tried it, rocking it right now and it seems fine just when I had my v30. I can verify later on when I go put gas. I'll keep you updated if anything.
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Awesome, appreciate it!

I'm pretty disappointed that RCS nor the Samsung/LG version work. It is super important to me, believe it or not. I'm hoping they release an update for this to work sometime soon.

cd85233 said:
I'm pretty disappointed that RCS nor the Samsung/LG version work. It is super important to me, believe it or not. I'm hoping they release an update for this to work sometime soon.
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It's silly, I agree. Since it's a carrier backed phone it should be available from the get go.

GiSS88 said:
It's silly, I agree. Since it's a carrier backed phone it should be available from the get go.
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Yea I got a feeling they maybe rushed this release a bit? They've never released with tmobile. Well see.

cd85233 said:
Yea I got a feeling they maybe rushed this release a bit? They've never released with tmobile. Well see.
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It's a TMobile issue not OP, sadly. No idea why they're doing it in stages and by phone.

My TMobile version does not have the hold power button down to activate Google Assistant feature. Is everyone else missing this?

I got some tmobile variant questions aswell?
Im from México but my brother is on vacation in USS.. in thinking on buying the oneplus but im a little confused about unlocking the phone... Some people say i have to use it with tmobile for 40 days to be able to unlock it even if i make the full pay for it.. othe people say you can unlock it the same day you full pay for it with the tmobile app..
So, can someone confirm who is correct with this because i wont like my brother to buy me the phone and then cant use it because of locked sim..
Also another question.. do you know if later we could install the international firmware on the tmobile version and get the updates directly from oneplus??
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renehd2 said:
I got some tmobile variant questions aswell?
Im from México but my brother is on vacation in USS.. in thinking on buying the oneplus but im a little confused about unlocking the phone... Some people say i have to use it with tmobile for 40 days to be able to unlock it even if i make the full pay for it.. othe people say you can unlock it the same day you full pay for it with the tmobile app..
So, can someone confirm who is correct with this because i wont like my brother to buy me the phone and then cant use it because of locked sim..
Also another question.. do you know if later we could install the international firmware on the tmobile version and get the updates directly from oneplus??
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1) SIM Unlocking:
YMMV,only way you'll know for certain is trying it yourself. My recent experiences w/Customer Care lead me to believe they'll accommodate you.
2) Int'l ROM flashing onto a T-Mobile variant.
No,that is not possible. Perhaps some aftermarket ROM will be available later,but,no ,not at this time,official,or,otherwise.
Updates will come from T-Mobile.
If you're gonna buy it outright,why bother w/T-Mobile anyway,just skip the hassles & go for the unlocked version.....................

KOLIOSIS said:
1) SIM Unlocking:
YMMV,only way you'll know for certain is trying it yourself. My recent experiences w/Customer Care lead me to believe they'll accommodate you.
2) Int'l ROM flashing onto a T-Mobile variant.
No,that is not possible. Perhaps some aftermarket ROM will be available later,but,no ,not at this time,official,or,otherwise.
Updates will come from T-Mobile.
If you're gonna buy it outright,why bother w/T-Mobile anyway,just skip the hassles & go for the unlocked version.....................
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Because TMobile will allow you to buy the phone for 280 out the door with an approved trade-in device.
This is my current situation....I like to tinker and flash ROMs/mods. Hopefully if I end up with the Tmo version, I'll still be able to flash custom ROMs once development gets going for the device.

Pain-N-Panic said:
Because TMobile will allow you to buy the phone for 280 out the door with an approved trade-in device.
This is my current situation....I like to tinker and flash ROMs/mods. Hopefully if I end up with the Tmo version, I'll still be able to flash custom ROMs once development gets going for the device.
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Yeah,I get it regarding $$$ incentives,but,the person I was responding to it seemed that time/urgency was an equally,if not more,a pressing issue.

KOLIOSIS said:
Yeah,I get it regarding $$$ incentives,but,the person I was responding to it seemed that time/urgency was an equally,if not more,a pressing issue.
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Ah, I gotcha.

KOLIOSIS said:
Yeah,I get it regarding $$$ incentives,but,the person I was responding to it seemed that time/urgency was an equally,if not more,a pressing issue.
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Yeah the problem is that my brother. Cannot wait to receive the international model via mail because he is coming back to mexico tuesday
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Well it looks like I'll be ordering from OP directly. It seems if I pay 280 and get the device I'll still pay 12 dollars and change a month until I hit the 570 mark to have the device "paid in full." I guess the 300 dollars goes towards savings on the bill. I read comments on here saying even if you buy the phone from TMobile, in order to "buy it outright" you still have to pay the full price of the phone. I need an unlocked bootloader and root so I guess I'll just pay OP directly.

Pain-N-Panic said:
Well it looks like I'll be ordering from OP directly. It seems if I pay 280 and get the device I'll still pay 12 dollars and change a month until I hit the 570 mark to have the device "paid in full." I guess the 300 dollars goes towards savings on the bill. I read comments on here saying even if you buy the phone from TMobile, in order to "buy it outright" you still have to pay the full price of the phone. I need an unlocked bootloader and root so I guess I'll just pay OP directly.
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Yeah it's really only a good deal if you're already or going to stay a T-Mobile customer. You wait a couple of months for the billing discount to kick in and you pay off your device in full. After that you'll still get your discount every month and you'll be able to unlock your sim card and unlock your bootloader.

hartleyshc said:
Yeah it's really only a good deal if you're already or going to stay a T-Mobile customer. You wait a couple of months for the billing discount to kick in and you pay off your device in full. After that you'll still get your discount every month and you'll be able to unlock your sim card and unlock your bootloader.
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I am a TMobile customer and plan on staying with them. Flashing the latest updates is kind of a big deal to me....I've been a Nexus/pixel user for years and am not use to being locked down by carrier restrictions when it comes to unlocking devices. I just don't feel like dealing with the clutter and hassle of having sift through the carrier's rules before doing what I want with my phone.

Pain-N-Panic said:
I am a TMobile customer and plan on staying with them. Flashing the latest updates is kind of a big deal to me....I've been a Nexus/pixel user for years and am not use to being locked down by carrier restrictions when it comes to unlocking devices. I just don't feel like dealing with the clutter and hassle of having sift through the carrier's rules before doing what I want with my phone.
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I agree, and I'm the exact same way. I've been on T-Mobile forever and have had a Nexus device since the Nexus 4. I had a Galaxy 4 for work and hated it.
This is my first carrier device pretty much ever. Before the Nexus 4 I was using the HTC HD2 and before that I was using Palm Windows and Palm OS devices.
Pretty much the way I see it is if this is too much of a pain, I can always sell it and go with my original plan of getting a used Pixel 2 XL on swappa.
I'll give it a chance. The price was just too good to pass. And I'm fairly confident in OP's laziness on locking down this phone. I have a feeling it will be pretty simple to swap over to the international rom, and if not, at most we'll have to wait a day for someone to repack the official rom removing the modem and/or bootloader. And if not, on to swappa it goes.