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HTC One Snapdragon 800 ???

It's been some time now since I've heard rumors of HTC upgrading their One phone with the newer Snapdragon 800 processor chip. Anyone else have anymore information on a possible release date for it?
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One X > One X+ was 8 months.
That would land the One+ in October, right there with the iPhone 5S.
Makes sense to me!
On a side note, LG G2 is being announced tomorrow. It's pretty cool looking, but we'll have to see if it implements the 800's native always listening capabilities from the start. I highly doubt it. OEMs might let Moto X be the test dummy and see if people like the always on feature.

Is the 800 the same architecture as the 600??
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dmarco said:
It's been some time now since I've heard rumors of HTC upgrading their One phone with the newer Snapdragon 800 processor chip. Anyone else have anymore information on a possible release date for it?
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any link to those rumours? so far our leakers are denying such device
but i really wish it happens

The One Max will probably get the 800. I don't think they will release a One+.
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HTC One Max Specs:
6" 1080p SLCD 3 Display
Qualcom Snapdragon 800 @ 2,3 GHz
2 Gb ram
32/64 gb Memory
3200mah
If everything goes right we will See the phablet fight in September against the SGN 3.
Rumors appeard where the Max should have a 3300 mAh battery and a microsd slot
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hamdir said:
any link to those rumours? so far our leakers are denying such device
but i really wish it happens
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Its a german site, but also well informed.
http://www.mobilegeeks.de/htc-one-max-erste-fotos-geleakt/
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The One Max is pretty much confirmed
I was asking about One+ rumours (same size) and i agree i dont think its happening

From the way the phone is overheating while you play games, I dont think they will be putting a faster CPU into the phone.
Maybe a faster GPU or an new gen of more efficient ARM processors
The current quad cores are already plenty fast for normal phone use.

We don't need s800 imo.. s600 is fast enough for me. But i wouldn't mind Adreno 330 gpu.

The One Max is not an upgrade over the One. I hope everyone realizes this. It will be very difficult to handle and heavier.
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musezer said:
From the way the phone is overheating while you play games, I dont think they will be putting a faster CPU into the phone.
Maybe a faster GPU or an new gen of more efficient ARM processors
The current quad cores are already plenty fast for normal phone use.
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I wish android OEMs start getting some sense into their heads, we don't need more CPU power at this point, just GPU
Sadly this is a call for the SOC vendors to make

hamdir said:
I wish android OEMs start getting some sense into their heads, we don't need more CPU power at this point, just GPU
Sadly this is a call for the SOC vendors to make
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New GPU and LPDDR3 would be a nice bump in performance.

Screw both CPU and GPU, better battery tech FFS.
We didn't need 1080p screens and mobile SoCs that are coming close to mid 2000's laptop power.
But it's hell asking for a phone to have two days standby time with heavy usage (6+ hours screen on) without wifi.

musezer said:
From the way the phone is overheating while you play games, I dont think they will be putting a faster CPU into the phone.
Maybe a faster GPU or an new gen of more efficient ARM processors
The current quad cores are already plenty fast for normal phone use.
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I think you just don't understand what overheating means...
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I think the spec madness has to stop.
Always listening should become a standard from now on. I read from Blinkfeed that the 800 has native support for it.
We also need better battery life. The G2, a next gen phone, has a 3000 mAh battery. We'll see if that'll be enough.
There is research being conducted to incorporate Silicon anodes in Li-ion batteries. I'm looking forward to that.
Another thing is heat dissipation. These things are more powerful than a laptop from the early 2000's. How can mfgs expect these to run at their full potential with no heat dissipation? Currently, the only solution provided is to throttle the CPU severely. The One has a metal backplate, which thankfully acts as a huge heatsink. However, it's not enough. Just 10 mins of 3D gameplay or browsing and the frame rate drops to rock bottom. Kinda defeats the purpose of having such a powerful processor.
Are any mfgs even trying to address the heat issues?

sauprankul said:
I think the spec madness has to stop.
Always listening should become a standard from now on. I read from Blinkfeed that the 800 has native support for it.
We also need better battery life. The G2, a next gen phone, has a 3000 mAh battery. We'll see if that'll be enough.
There is research being conducted to incorporate Silicon anodes in Li-ion batteries. I'm looking forward to that.
Another thing is heat dissipation. These things are more powerful than a laptop from the early 2000's. How can mfgs expect these to run at their full potential with no heat dissipation? Currently, the only solution provided is to throttle the CPU severely. The One has a metal backplate, which thankfully acts as a huge heatsink. However, it's not enough. Just 10 mins of 3D gameplay or browsing and the frame rate drops to rock bottom. Kinda defeats the purpose of having such a powerful processor.
Are any mfgs even trying to address the heat issues?
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Why you want yet an new ONE yet??? Its the better android phone now overall by far.. The differences with the snapdragon 600 and the 800 there are minimals.. I prefeer all day the One near the lg G2 big plastic crap.
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I read in an article that the lg g2 laged on random things they said because lg's ui is heavy

giorat23 said:
Why you want yet an new ONE yet??? Its the better android phone now overall by far.. The differences with the snapdragon 600 and the 800 there are minimals.. I prefeer all day the One near the lg G2 big plastic crap.
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Subtleties, my good man.
I never said I wanted a new One right now. That would be nice, but it isn't necessary.
And I didn't say I wanted an S800, I simply said that the next generation of devices should implement the native always listening feature. And the 800 makes several significant improvements.
http://m.techradar.com/news/computi...mm-processor-will-always-be-listening-1132647
And believe it or not your precious phone (and mine) will be outdated in a matter of months. A new genreation of devices seems to release every 6 months or so!
I was commenting on a disturbing trend the Android smartphone market is exhibiting: an obsession with theoretical values and inflated numbers. While these do help to some degree, there needs to be some kind of innovation, or else we'll all end up in a very uncomfortable situation.

sauprankul said:
I think the spec madness has to stop.
Always listening should become a standard from now on. I read from Blinkfeed that the 800 has native support for it.
We also need better battery life. The G2, a next gen phone, has a 3000 mAh battery. We'll see if that'll be enough.
There is research being conducted to incorporate Silicon anodes in Li-ion batteries. I'm looking forward to that.
Another thing is heat dissipation. These things are more powerful than a laptop from the early 2000's. How can mfgs expect these to run at their full potential with no heat dissipation? Currently, the only solution provided is to throttle the CPU severely. The One has a metal backplate, which thankfully acts as a huge heatsink. However, it's not enough. Just 10 mins of 3D gameplay or browsing and the frame rate drops to rock bottom. Kinda defeats the purpose of having such a powerful processor.
Are any mfgs even trying to address the heat issues?
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Are you unlocked? With ElementalX kernel, you have custom thermal throttling that does not affect gaming performance. My phone never throttles and the battery stays below 50 degrees. HTC's throttling was way too agressive. You can play a 3D game for an hour with no slowdown. Plus, the kernel improves battery life.
I cant stand the stock kernel any more after trying others.

I remember my boyfriend buying the LG Optimus 2x when it was released. It was the first Android phone with dual core and - if you took a look on the hardware - very, very promising compared to other androids. Yeah... Theory. It was laggy. It lagged so much, even my HTC Desire was faster and smoother.
I'm really curious what the new LG G2 will act like, but my expectations are extremely low
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Need buying advice - N910C of N910F ?

Which one should I buy if I'm after longer battery life / performance / XDA support?
I'm not a gamer.
Thanks in advance

search...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/to-snapdragon-805-to-exynos-5433-t2868247

Doesn't really matter. The N910F apparently gives better battery life, but some try dispute that. If LTE Cat.6 is implemented in your country then get the N910F as it supports LTE Cat.6. With latest Android 5.1.1 now out for the USA Snapdragons and Exynos Polish, apparently both no longer have Recent Apps lag and they perform much better than before.
Either way youre getting a beastly device.

go for 910c and dont even think about it unless you are cm user.

tmac31 said:
go for 910c and dont even think about it unless you are cm user.
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and why is that? it's simple, both run and will run 32bit, and if you want more processing power, then the C if you want graphics power, then the F.. simple as that, nothing more nothing less..

thejunkie said:
and why is that? it's simple, both run and will run 32bit, and if you want more processing power, then the C if you want graphics power, then the F.. simple as that, nothing more nothing less..
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910f barelys has any more graphics power. not a single game runs better on s805 version(atleast the ones i tried) benchmarks almost same aswell. but on the other hand cpu difference is big. when you use them side by side speed difference is very noticable.
and whatever they are on 32 or 64 bit doesnt mean anything.

I got a N910C, because I never did like Quadcomm SOCs. They tend to run a little hotter than other SOCs. I barely felt any heat of my N910C even when playing Asphalt 8 or Street Fighter IV HD. The only time I felt any heat from my N910C was when it had developed a hardware fault and I had to send it back to the retailer for repairs. Which I'm still waiting for them to finish the repairs.
Other than that I had a great experience with my N910C.

The N910F doesn't run hot, the Snapdragon 805 CPU has to be the coolest of the Qualcomm chips. The only time the phone got hot for me is when upgrading to Lollipop, it got very hot while optimising apps, then calmed down after the update was all done.
As for performance, on 5.1.1 both the C and USA Snapdragons that are basically US N910Fs are running with no Recent Apps lag, so one can't really say there is much of a difference, both run much better than they did on 5.0.1.
Get the variant that has warranty in your country, and if both do, then get the one that best suits your network e.g. if the network supports the newer and faster LTE Cat.6 then get the F, also for slightly better battery life get the F, as well as if you plan on getting the GearVR by Oculus, get the F.
If you want the Exynos CPU and Wolfson DAC, get the C.

I've just sold my 910f and bought the 910c. Two reasons first I just prefer exynos maybe because my last device was exynos. Second the snapdragon does run fairly hot and tended to overheat when using gear vr
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Dont do that mistake and buy note 4 it's crap

Exynos 5433 is around ~30% faster at the CPU department, while it has a weaker GPU.
Honestly, it doesn't make much of a difference. But if you can choose, the 910C has better performance.
Weaker GPU matter less than weaker CPU because both are going to run any game exceptionally regardless.
Edit: Exynos 5433 is apparently ~50% ahead of the SD805 at geekbench, difference is bigger than I thought.

Go for C and don't look back.

910C.

I've just got the C & I have noticed it runs smoother than my F & also when I play music via Bluetooth it don't get ant skips, blips etc like i did with the F.
I dunno if it's the 5.1.1 update that has fixed that or its a Snapdragon fault.
So far I'm really happy with the C & just looking at the F & wonder if I should sell it.

The 5.1.1 update seems to have done wonders for both N910F and N910C.
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Get the C

Hehehe again a 910C/910F thread, let's see how quickly this one gets closed due to members fighting (cause that's where thread like these are always bound to end up in).
Anyway my personal opinion: if you want to stay stock, then go for the 910C. If you want AOSP then 910F. Yes, CM is currently also available for 910C but they're about 8-12 months behind. Realistically the Note 6 will be out before a 'perfect' stable version will be available for the 910C. These things just take a lot of time to develop.
Quick pro's and cons of stock vs AOSP:
Pro stock:
* Everything just works.
Pro AOSP:
* Quick updates, no need to wait till august 2016 for Android M, you will have it 2 weeks after google releases it
* Blazing fast GUI, everything just works so much smoother.
* Additional features and control over your phone.
Con AOSP:
* Not everything works as of yet, I think currently still missing (although will be worked upon) are AudioFX, MMS, Compass in google maps. And then there's of course the fingerprint scanner but that should be coming with Android M. And then if you flash nightlies every time, you will run into some problems every now and then of course.
Previously camera quality was also a factor but that's solved now, photo quality is now equal.
All in all a personal choice, but I think this is what it boils down to.

Exynos 8890 or SD820?

I will buy a galaxy s7 edge next week, but for now in stores only the exynos version is available in my country. Is it a good soc? Or should I wait more for the snapdragon phone?
On my note 3 the exynos chip was considered pretty bad, on both performance and battery life.

Exynos = Better CPU, Battery drain mostly from radio cell.
Snapdragon = Better GPU. Battery drain mostly from Android system (not sure is it fix able by update. )
If you're that person that love installing AOSP ROM. Snapdragon is your choice.

bibiner said:
Exynos = Better CPU, Battery drain mostly from radio cell.
Snapdragon = Better GPU. Battery drain mostly from Android system (not sure is it fix able by update. )
If you're that person that love installing AOSP ROM. Snapdragon is your choice.
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I will definetly root, most likely on day one, but I doubt I will be using AOSP roms.
Gaming on a phone isn't for me as well, I have my iPad or ps4 for that.
So the exynos runs better for day to day tasks?

For day to day tasks, there's no difference

For me I would prefer SD, cuz the ROM, kernel and mod development is much much better and I'm a flashaholic but in Europe only the exynos is available. And I'm scared there won't be so much to flash\development...
Am I right? How was the ROMs, kernels ect. on s6 edge exynos? Will devs come support us?

lvnatic said:
I will definetly root, most likely on day one, but I doubt I will be using AOSP roms.
Gaming on a phone isn't for me as well, I have my iPad or ps4 for that.
So the exynos runs better for day to day tasks?
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According to tests i've seen, yes.

Thanks for the replies, I'm going with the exynos then and I will preorder it as well, so I can get that vr.

CuBz90 said:
According to tests i've seen, yes.
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These tests being?

If your in Europe then it's not worth the hassle to get the snapdragon version IMO. That being said, the snapdragon has the better GPU, modem, higher single threaded performance, and more than likely a better ISP, DSP, etc and other blocks of the SOC. The exynos will have better multithreaded performance, just due to the fact that it has 8 cores vs the snapdragons 4, even though per core the snapdragons are faster. Like others have said developement will be noticeably less on the exynos. You will still get custom Roms but I wouldn't expect cm or aosp within a year, or ever. In dqy to day performance I would expect the snapdragons 4 very fast cores to be more responsive than the 4 slow cores and 4 fast cores of the exynos, especially considering most of the normal ui is processed on the slow cores and has to migrate to the fast cores when it needs it.

Xileforce said:
If your in Europe then it's not worth the hassle to get the snapdragon version IMO. That being said, the snapdragon has the better GPU, modem, higher single threaded performance, and more than likely a better ISP, DSP, etc and other blocks of the SOC. The exynos will have better multithreaded performance, just due to the fact that it has 8 cores vs the snapdragons 4, even though per core the snapdragons are faster. Like others have said developement will be noticeably less on the exynos. You will still get custom Roms but I wouldn't expect cm or aosp within a year, or ever. In dqy to day performance I would expect the snapdragons 4 very fast cores to be more responsive than the 4 slow cores and 4 fast cores of the exynos, especially considering most of the normal ui is processed on the slow cores and has to migrate to the fast cores when it needs it.
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What is your basis for these arguments? Seems like most people in this thread are just making stuff up without quoting any real-world tests. Even Anandtech stated that the SoCs are pretty much equal (as far as they currently know, and they have already written pretty extensively about both SoCs), and that efficiency is what is going to set them apart. I wouldn't draw any conclusions without actually reading a comprehensive comparison of the two.

I just pulled the trigger on an Exynos version, despite living in the U.S.
Reasons you might consider the Exynos over the SD820:
1) LTE Bands, the Exynos version has far more LTE Bands for use around the world. If you travel around a bit, then it makes a bit of sense to have a phone that can receive data, regardless of the network you're on.
2) Battery drain: it looks like both SoC's are plagued with one thing or another that saps battery life, but the SD820 has an alarming amount of drain from the Android system. It still has great SoT (screen on time), but it's still a worry nonetheless.
3) Carrier lock: If you find yourself on one network, then this shouldn't be an issue. But within the past 2 years, I have been on a AT&T, then a business T-Mobile line, then Google Fi, and now on an AT&T business line. If the phone locks to a carrier, then you might have to wait longer or pay to get it unlocked.. which can be a drag.
That being said, I'm sure the development for the SD820 version will be immense. However, I'm coming from a Nexus 6P, and feel like the stock S7E ROM performs so well, that I won't need to root or anything. Android has reached a level of smoothness that was not found on earlier versions, especially in tandem with TouchWiz of old (older Notes and S phones were laggy, really). So stock ROM with the ability to use Android Pay/Samsung Pay will be nice.
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I just pre ordered the UK S7 Edge, hoping it'll be Exynos.
In the benchmark thread people are getting virtually identical Antutu scores across chips. It looks like the Snapdragon is throttling earlier than the Exynos though, they always have ran hotter.

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These tests being?
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In singel core performance, the SD is a few % better. But in multi core, the exynos is about 20% ahead. So it does seem to run better with the CPU. Also it seems to run cooler, so throttling should be better.

TeamSlayr said:
In singel core performance, the SD is a few % better. But in multi core, the exynos is about 20% ahead. So it does seem to run better with the CPU. Also it seems to run cooler, so throttling should be better.
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We need someone to run consecutive 3dmark runs on the exynos in order to know whether the gpu throttles or not, and if so after how many runs. We already know neither will throttle the cpu in geekbench, but the SD820 throttles the gpu a bit after two 3dmark runs.

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We need someone to run consecutive 3dmark runs on the exynos in order to know whether the gpu throttles or not, and if so after how many runs. We already know neither will throttle the cpu in geekbench, but the SD820 throttles the gpu a bit after two 3dmark runs.
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Yes we should await further testing. Since the SD is released in America for some already, the benchmarks for exynos are hard to find.

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What is your basis for these arguments? Seems like most people in this thread are just making stuff up without quoting any real-world tests. Even Anandtech stated that the SoCs are pretty much equal (as far as they currently know, and they have already written pretty extensively about both SoCs), and that efficiency is what is going to set them apart. I wouldn't draw any conclusions without actually reading a comprehensive comparison of the two.
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I'm pulling this from past experience with exynos 7420 kernel development, and every article ive read on the 820 and the exynos 8890, in addition to benchmarks on both and my own device. Qualcomm leads the world in modem technology. The one in the 820 supposedly has achieved parity with wifi. In addition we have the hexagon DSP and spectra ISP all of which can operate in a sort of HMP configuration to accelerate tasks. I would find it hard to believe that Samsung has caught up to qcom in these misc blocks of the SOC. But that's why I said most likely for that portion as I'm just making an educated guess. Single threaded performance is quantifiably higher on the snapdragon, all the benchmarks shows this, just as they show that the 8 core exynos scores higher in multithreaded scenarios. The rest about development etc is because Samsung doesn't release the proprietary hardware blobs we need to get a proper aosp/cm port working. Meaning we have to write them from scratch which takes forever. Qcom has always provided these in the past. The GPU also performs better in benchmarks, whether there's a noticeable difference in real life remains to be seen, still from all evidence the snapdragon beats out the exynos GPU. And my experience with the 7420 taught me that the small cores can have trouble keeping the ui smooth at all times, and we see the same cluster again on the exynos, only on a slightly improved node. Hopefully this explains the logic behind my post better.

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I'm pulling this from past experience with exynos 7420 kernel development, and every article ive read on the 820 and the exynos 8890, in addition to benchmarks on both and my own device. Qualcomm leads the world in modem technology. The one in the 820 supposedly has achieved parity with wifi. In addition we have the hexagon DSP and spectra ISP all of which can operate in a sort of HMP configuration to accelerate tasks. I would find it hard to believe that Samsung has caught up to qcom in these misc blocks of the SOC. But that's why I said most likely for that portion as I'm just making an educated guess. Single threaded performance is quantifiably higher on the snapdragon, all the benchmarks shows this, just as they show that the 8 core exynos scores higher in multithreaded scenarios. The rest about development etc is because Samsung doesn't release the proprietary hardware blobs we need to get a proper aosp/cm port working. Meaning we have to write them from scratch which takes forever. Qcom has always provided these in the past. The GPU also performs better in benchmarks, whether there's a noticeable difference in real life remains to be seen, still from all evidence the snapdragon beats out the exynos GPU. And my experience with the 7420 taught me that the small cores can have trouble keeping the ui smooth at all times, and we see the same cluster again on the exynos, only on a slightly improved node. Hopefully this explains the logic behind my post better.
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Could very well be that the sd820 endas up faster than the exynos 8890 in day to day tasks, but the sd820 seems to be using a lot of mW in comparison to other SoCs(check anandtech's look at the mi-5). Its single thread performance is better, but on average there's only a 10% difference and the exynos is clocked lower than reference (2.7ghz and 2.4ghz). Both modems achieve the same speeds so the only thing that is going to matter in the end is efficiency. Still need to take a look at the GPU throttling on the 8890, as we only know the sd820 GPU throttles at this point in time. Personally I would have preferred the sd820, but if the 8899 brings better battery and better audio quality the difference in performance is worth it. Looking forward to anandtech's in-depth comparison! Don't really get why we haven't seen any reviews yet even though people have the phones already.

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Could very well be that the sd820 endas up faster than the exynos 8890 in day to day tasks, but the sd820 seems to be using a lot of mW in comparison to other SoCs(check anandtech's look at the mi-5). Its single thread performance is better, but on average there's only a 10% difference and the exynos is clocked lower than reference (2.7ghz and 2.4ghz). Both modems achieve the same speeds so the only thing that is going to matter in the end is efficiency. Still need to take a look at the GPU throttling on the 8890, as we only know the sd820 GPU throttles at this point in time. Personally I would have preferred the sd820, but if the 8899 brings better battery and better audio quality the difference in performance is worth it. Looking forward to anandtech's in-depth comparison! Don't really get why we haven't seen any reviews yet even though people have the phones already.
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Also awaiting the deep dive on both. Keep in mind though, that 2 of the 820s cores are clocked at 1.6 and have less l2cache to save power, and 2 of them are at 2.2ghz, so clock for clock they have very high performance. As for the power draw comparison, it was only an estimate to begin with, and ones got 4 little and 4 small and if it was only using the 4 small during the test that alone would be a noticeable power draw difference. It gets pretty complex with these big.little setups. I've also noticed the snapdragon version has a pretty high load average which should be able to get lowered with some modifications to the kernel.

AhsanU said:
I just pulled the trigger on an Exynos version, despite living in the U.S.
Reasons you might consider the Exynos over the SD820:
1) LTE Bands, the Exynos version has far more LTE Bands for use around the world. If you travel around a bit, then it makes a bit of sense to have a phone that can receive data, regardless of the network you're on.
2) Battery drain: it looks like both SoC's are plagued with one thing or another that saps battery life, but the SD820 has an alarming amount of drain from the Android system. It still has great SoT (screen on time), but it's still a worry nonetheless.
3) Carrier lock: If you find yourself on one network, then this shouldn't be an issue. But within the past 2 years, I have been on a AT&T, then a business T-Mobile line, then Google Fi, and now on an AT&T business line. If the phone locks to a carrier, then you might have to wait longer or pay to get it unlocked.. which can be a drag.
That being said, I'm sure the development for the SD820 version will be immense. However, I'm coming from a Nexus 6P, and feel like the stock S7E ROM performs so well, that I won't need to root or anything. Android has reached a level of smoothness that was not found on earlier versions, especially in tandem with TouchWiz of old (older Notes and S phones were laggy, really). So stock ROM with the ability to use Android Pay/Samsung Pay will be nice.
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Yup my SD820 is running full on SPay, Bluetooth, WIFI, NFC, Always On Display all without power saving mode and I get 8h SOT in 24h. Listening to a few posts of people beginning to learn the phones quirks within the first few days is not evidence of anything other than the phone being broken in. Spreading information like this gets people buying devices for unsubstantiated reasons. Please provide evidence if you're going to post stuff like this. You guys are just starting an echo chamber quoting each other with no evidence supporting your rumors.

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Yup my SD820 is running full on SPay, Bluetooth, WIFI, NFC, Always On Display all without power saving mode and I get 8h SOT in 24h. Listening to a few posts of people beginning to learn the phones quirks within the first few days is not evidence of anything other than the phone being broken in. Spreading information like this gets people buying devices for unsubstantiated reasons. Please provide evidence if you're going to post stuff like this. You guys are just starting an echo chamber quoting each other with no evidence supporting your rumors.
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I never believe people when they say they get 8 hours of screen on time.
And if you read my post carefully, you'll see the fact that I stated the SD820 still has great SoT, but just that there are issues with the Android system draining an alarming amount of battery percentage. This is not some baseless claim, there are multiple posts in the battery life thread showing the android system taking up 35%< of the battery.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3321547
In case you were wondering which thread.
Again, it's just a strange thing that can maybe be fixed by a software update.
And while we're at it, how about you show screenshots of your supposed 8 hours of SoT?
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Almost jumped ship -_-

So yesterday, I picked up a used Alcatel Onetouch Idol 3 Octa-core phone. Has a snapdragon 615(4 1.5Ghz and 4 1.0Ghz processors) and we thought Amazon went to extremes, ha!! Turns out with the M 6.0.1 update, Alcatel not only locked everything down, they even stripped fastboot commands!!! Well anyhow as far as things weigh in, I swear the R1 still feels faster than the Idol 3. Now if I want to continue to play with the Idol 3 fortunately there is a way to downgrade and then flash over a different M rom, that may help. But for now the R1 will remain my daily.

I bought the BLU R1 without knowing what to expect and so far I'm impressed. It's my first ever BLU and Mediatek phone. I hate Snapdragon and avoid every phone that uses it. R1 HD is really fast and responsive. There is a video on youtube showing gaming footage on Moto G4 and it sucks really bad. Idol 3 and G4 are using the same slow, overheating Snapdragon 615 (617 same thing) and claim it's a high performance octa core processor.

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I bought the BLU R1 without knowing what to expect and so far I'm impressed. It's my first ever BLU and Mediatek phone. I hate Snapdragon and avoid every phone that uses it. R1 HD is really fast and responsive. There is a video on youtube showing gaming footage on Moto G4 and it sucks really bad. Idol 3 and G4 are using the same slow, overheating Snapdragon 615 (617 same thing) and claim it's a high performance octa core processor.
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I agree, the performance of this phone does not feel as responsive as I thought for an 8 core(4x1.5,4x1.0), the 4 core 1.3 6735 honestly screamed. The Idol runs a 64bit Android 6.0.1 build where R1 is 32bit. Still I agree the R1 felt snappy. The area the Idol 3 shines in though is the Audio dept. Sound is awesome on this thing!! I won't be gone too long, I enjoyed the freedom of experimenting with the R1, practically indestructible until 6.6.... But never repeat NEVER install an OTA until you inspect what its doing!!!

I don't even get why phones apparently "need" an 8 core or even 10 core processor. You can't even do most of the things on a smartphone to max those cores out. I personally believe a quad-core is all that is needed and they need to work on the cpus so that they are better at doing more instructions per cycle so that single-thread and multi-thread will perform even better.
I love the Blu R1 HD and that screen is actually something to gawk at. You would never expect such a screen in a sub-100 phone as this screen can even best some of the high end phones of 2013! My only complaint about this phone is the battery, it has been 19 hours and I have used it for 2 hrs for SOT and it is dead, originally the battery was way better. I don't know what has happened because there is no report of it using massive amount of battery. The awake line is not there when it is draining rapidly and there are no wakelocks keeping it awake as shown in Wakelock Detector.

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I don't even get why phones apparently "need" an 8 core or even 10 core processor. You can't even do most of the things on a smartphone to max those cores out. I personally believe a quad-core is all that is needed and they need to work on the cpus so that they are better at doing more instructions per cycle so that single-thread and multi-thread will perform even better.
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So far as I understand (please correct me if I'm wrong), multiple cores allow for better power management.
So if you have 8 cores total, 4 powerful, 4 energy efficient, but are idling, then you can turn most of them off to save power. When more power is needed, the more powerful ones kick in and do their stuff.
Aside from that, I assume it is partly due to the difficulty in manufacturing CPUs. For example, Intel chips tend to have less cores (typically 2, hyperthreaded to 4) compared to AMD (often 4 or 8), because their CPUs have strong single core performance. AMD makes up for this by using more cores. I expect this is the same in the mobile computing world.

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So far as I understand (please correct me if I'm wrong), multiple cores allow for better power management.
So if you have 8 cores total, 4 powerful, 4 energy efficient, but are idling, then you can turn most of them off to save power. When more power is needed, the more powerful ones kick in and do their stuff.
Aside from that, I assume it is partly due to the difficulty in manufacturing CPUs. For example, Intel chips tend to have less cores (typically 2, hyperthreaded to 4) compared to AMD (often 4 or 8), because their CPUs have strong single core performance. AMD makes up for this by using more cores. I expect this is the same in the mobile computing world.
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That certainly makes sense, but in operation, it seems something was poorly implemented because, although this device specs out higher than the R1, in real world use it just seems to be on par with the speed of the R1, plus the R1 screen though smaller definitely appears more vivid and colors pop much more so than the Idol 3. As previously stated by me the Idol 3 has a much nicer audio experience, both in volume and in sound quality, but performance wise, I still think the R1 is superior.

Damnit I bought an Idol 3 and killed the R1 HD, lol

Overall speed

Would you say that the Nokia 7 Plus is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Nokia 7 Plus exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Yes.Would love to see some comparisons for this.I hear the sd 660 is as fast as the sd 820 from a few years ago.
Phones generally are too fast Nowadays anyway so Im fine with the speed of the sd 660 on paper.Should be fine for day to day tasks

manus31 said:
Yes.Would love to see some comparisons for this.I hear the sd 660 is as fast as the sd 820 from a few years ago.
Phones generally are too fast Nowadays anyway so Im fine with the speed of the sd 660 on paper.Should be fine for day to day tasks
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I'm thinking about swapping my op3 to Nokia 7plus. Do you think that performance will be at similar level?

mateusz3112 said:
I'm thinking about swapping my op3 to Nokia 7plus. Do you think that performance will be at similar level?
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Im actually looking to swap my op3 too.I think performamce will be the same,but not much better. Im probably gonna keep an eye on the op6 to see what price that is before committing to anything.The main advantage to the 7+ is Android One and fast updates.I hear the camera is better than the 5t also.
One thing Im not quite happy with about the 7+ us its design .Its fairly beefy and the nokia branding looks tacky on the front.The op3 is definitely a cooler phone,though I do like the bigger batery on tbe 7+

manus31 said:
Im actually looking to swap my op3 too.I think performamce will be the same,but not much better. Im probably gonna keep an eye on the op6 to see what price that is before committing to anything.The main advantage to the 7+ is Android One and fast updates.I hear the camera is better than the 5t also.
One thing Im not quite happy with about the 7+ us its design .Its fairly beefy and the nokia branding looks tacky on the front.The op3 is definitely a cooler phone,though I do like the bigger batery on tbe 7+
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Actually you're both wrong in a good way
The CPU of the Snapdragon 660 SoC is within 5-10% of the Snapdragon 835 depending on the benchmark you run. This can be attributed to the 10% or so lower clockspeed of the big cores.
The GPU is a lot slower than the 835 monster of a chip but it's still the same as a 821 GPU. So yes, it is actually faster in the SoC department. The nand flash will probably be a little bit slower than that of the OP3 but that shouldn't affect you too much.
It's a very good phone and you'll enjoy the experience since the 8.1 firmware they have fixed all the little bugs.
The camera is also very good, especially in daylight. Please note that the OP3 has Optical image stabilization and that maybe you'll miss the AMOLED screen.
But it is a really good phone. And else the Xiaomi Redmi 5 Plus is also the same size and a very good phone with an amazing battery life. The screens are comparable but the Nokia seems to have a little more staurated colours. Brightness is almost the same in auto mode.
The Xiaomi has a bigger battery and lasts much longer but is lighter and feels like a tank. If you're handy flash a stock ROM and it's almost the same experience as the Nokia.

N7+ speed
Antutu Benchmark gives 140000+ overall score, ranks 38 in all phones..

soulaiman said:
The GPU is a lot slower than the 835 monster of a chip but it's still the same as a 821 GPU. So yes, it is actually faster in the SoC department. The nand flash will probably be a little bit slower than that of the OP3 but that shouldn't affect you too much.
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Snapdragon 660 has Adreno 512 GPU, while Snapdragon 821 has Adreno 530. 530 is almost twice as fast.

Coming from OnePlus One, the Nokia 7 Plus does feel a bit snappier. But sometimes I feel that the firmware is still not fully optimized, switching recent apps feels a bit slower and not fluid. However from what I saw in videos showing Android P on Nokia 7 Plus it does look smoother than current Oreo 8.1.
Tl;dr it is snappier than my OnePlus One but not really snappy. Might be fixed in future updates.

spikypotato said:
Coming from OnePlus One, the Nokia 7 Plus does feel a bit snappier. But sometimes I feel that the firmware is still not fully optimized, switching recent apps feels a bit slower and not fluid. However from what I saw in videos showing Android P on Nokia 7 Plus it does look smoother than current Oreo 8.1.
Tl;dr it is snappier than my OnePlus One but not really snappy. Might be fixed in future updates.
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Thinking of getting it when it goes down to 300 euros

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Thinking of getting it when it goes down to 300 euros
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You may be able to grab a free google home mini (if it's available) until late June if you want to bite the bullet

Micro Bumping. I'm not noticing any lag on this phone (some games do but I blame the game). The phone is super snappy and fast, and is perhaps the fastest phone I've used. I put this down to the stock android as well, because other phones using "Custom Android" almost never run as good as Stock. The Antutu benchmarks mean nothing, it's a phone. As long as it works without lag, it works fine.
Day To Day use : Absolutely amazing. No lag with fingerprint, and the apps load without issues

I have purchased TA - 1062 variant and in terms of speed there is nothing I can be unhapy about. everything is smooth and fast. I have even compared 7+ with some SD835 devices and I was unable to notice any differences. Some sites were loaded faster with 7+ some with others and so were the apps.

This phone feels like Android Go brick. I expected far more for the price.

This device is amazing. It's fast, smooth and reliable.
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