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LG G3 vs Samsung Galaxy S5 Camera
Magic Focus Feature
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Small G3 camera shootout:
First LG G3 samples get compared with the Galaxy S5, One M8, Note 3, and iPhone 5s
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Very good
Good.
crappy audio noise cancellation
Boobook said:
crappy audio noise cancellation
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yes I wonder if they haven't finalized their software for it or if you should only turn it on in certain situations or what.
Anyways, I haven't seen many videos but here's one that shows the super steady and well exposed video the G3 can shoot, along with no audio issues. Pretty impressive for indoors video so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffz71YW02lM
Looking good, the audio cancellation issues aren't great, but I hope it is software related somehow. I really dig the "magic focus" feature. Much better implementation than HTC.
The real question is if they have improved the camera in low-light conditions with moving objects. The LG G2 stock camera suffered BADLY in trying to shoot pictures of moving objects in low light conditions.
In addition, the stock G2 camera denoising algorithm was way too aggressive leading to watercolor-like pictures, again especially in low-light.
Glad they tried to address the slow focus issue with the G2 by implementing laser focus.
here are some samples
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-initial-photo-and-video-samples
hello00 said:
here are some samples
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-initial-photo-and-video-samples
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It looks good
I wonder how it performs against Z2
beezar said:
The real question is if they have improved the camera in low-light conditions with moving objects. The LG G2 stock camera suffered BADLY in trying to shoot pictures of moving objects in low light conditions.
In addition, the stock G2 camera denoising algorithm was way too aggressive leading to watercolor-like pictures, again especially in low-light.
Glad they tried to address the slow focus issue with the G2 by implementing laser focus.
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Photographer here -- unfortunately, in low light with ANY smartphone you'll have difficulty capturing a moving object. With low light, you require a longer shutter speed, and depending on how fast the object is moving, you're guaranteed to have blur. Whether your phone is hand held or on a tripod does not matter -- the motion is relative to the camera, not the camera itself.
In low light to be able to effectively capture a moving object with no blur you will need a large sensor camera (e.g. DSLR APS-C or m4/3) and fast (large aperture) lens. Smartphones have small sensors and can't capture as much light which therefore requires lengthening the shutter speed to allow enough light in to expose the scene properly. Similarly, they can't use higher ISO (sensitivity) to keep the shutter speed short either due to having excessive noise at comparable ISO levels.
The exception to this is a good flash. With a good flash you can use a faster shutter speed and be able to "freeze motion" better. Of course, the flashes on phones are underpowered and will only help you out if you're reasonably close to whatever you're trying to capture.
Just to give some examples, in lower light situations small sensor cameras pretty much have to use a 1/30s or longer shutter speed. Any object that's moving faster than a snail's pace will therefore have blur. On the other hand, with a large sensor camera and fast lens, you can realistically increase your ISO to say 6400 if you have a fast moving object and set your shutter speed to 1/200s and fire away.
Another issue is that we really don't have effective control over shutter speed on smartphones. Hopefully this will come eventually with Android's new API (along with RAW support). Sure, most people don't know how to shoot in manual mode but for those who do it's very helpful. I believe many phone manufacturers include a "sports" or "action" mode that will prioritize shutter speed over ISO (and no idea if the G2 has a similar mode), but still there's only so much it can do with a small sensor in a situation where the physics just aren't in its favor. Smartphones are great in good light, but if low light is a priority, a dedicated camera is the only solution.
thx for all that info KLMD, really helpful and easy to understand! cheers bud
Of course, glad to hear it was understandable.
With all that said, what do I think of the G3's camera so far? Well first off, OIS is critical when you're not shooting outdoors and not using a tripod (due to the shutter speeds as I explained above). No other Android flagship has OIS which is quite a shame, so based on that the G3 is already starting ahead of the pack. The benefit of this is clearly demonstrated in PhoneArena's samples compared to the Galaxy S5. Due to the indoor lighting, the S5's shots appear to lack detail because of the blur induced by a long shutter speed that's not stabilized optically. Meanwhile, the G3's are tack sharp. Their samples are more of a "real world" demonstration compared to many smartphone camera reviews where they have the indoors shots stabilized on a tripod. Having the phones on a tripod eliminates the reviewer's shaky hands from affecting results, but it also hides the necessity of OIS for low light photos. 99% of the time we're not using a tripod with our smartphones.
From samples I've seen so far, LG appears to have gotten their software processing down pretty well -- way better than the G2. White balance and exposure seem to be handled well, and photos seem to have better saturation than the G2.
The G3 also appears to have a wider angle lens than the S5, and I appreciate that its sensor is 4:3 rather than 16:9. 16:9 may fill up your entire screen when framing the shot, but if shooting in landscape mode you're really losing out on vertical height (and vice versa if oriented in portrait you're not getting much horizontally). The G3 without a doubt fits more into the frame due to both the lens angle and 4:3 aspect ratio.
With the OIS and good software processing, at this point the G3's camera looks to be the most promising of any Android device. I'll wait for more samples to make a firm conclusion, but again, the G3 is more compelling than anything else right now.
Edit: correction the Nexus 5 also has OIS, but of course it's also made by LG
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Edit: correction the Nexus 5 also has OIS, but of course it's also made by LG
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HTC One M7 also has it, M8 lost it coz it didnt play well with the duo camera setup apparently.
My view on G3,Sorry to break ice about camera but here are facts :
1. There is no laser in g3 but laserish IR light that gets detected by camera to focus for near objects.
2. No practical use in daylight.
3. Useless to detect & focus on far objects - let's check when reviews comes for range. Depends on how powerful ir included.
4. Same camera hardware except Lewis software promotion.
These are simple practical physics facts of camera working.
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NaveenKumarXDA said:
My view on G3,Sorry to break ice about camera but here are facts :
1. There is no laser in g3 but laserish IR light that gets detected by camera to focus for near objects.
2. No practical use in daylight.
3. Useless to detect & focus on far objects - let's check when reviews comes for range. Depends on how powerful ir included.
4. Same camera hardware except Lewis software promotion.
These are simple practical physics facts of camera working.
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Just info share no offense [emoji89]
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what did u think it had? a laser from a gun
hello00 said:
what did u think it had? a laser from a gun
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Yes
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Any confirmation of 1080p60?
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Any confirmation of 1080p60?
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Yes. Its already in the G2 also, so pretty obvious to be in G3.
Ohhhhooo
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what did u think it had? a laser from a gun
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Yes Sir, I thought "Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Light" but not the case Here. Hence a Lie.
Hi all, I 've been thinking of buying a new phone & I really like the g2 very much but the only thing that is stopping me is the camera performance.
Can someone please tell me after the Jishu/xdadebb mod how is the camera performance under low light, how is the autofocus in low light also is the continuous autofocus in the video problem resolved. How much is the shutter lag after the mod.
I really want to buy this device for the camera & its under my budget if the camera ain't good enough even after the mods I may go with oppo find 7a/oneplus one which are in the same budget but have better camera.
I dont capture my photos in low light. But the camera is pretty amazing with xdadebb mod, and Mi2Raw enables the G2 to capture raw footage as well.
The G2 and G3 has the same camera sensor, just that the G3 has a Z-Axis image stabiliser and laser autofocus. So if I were you, I'll go look at those camera comparisons on review sites comparing the G3, OnePlus One and the Oppo.
Edit: Video performance is pretty good too. xdadebb camera mod allows for tap to focus in video to focus your subject and it works well. It has object tracking too!
Edit 2: With dorimanx's kernel, I was able to turn down the mic gain when I was at a concert. That + the stereo recording = pretty awesome recording
Thanks @lowjinyik.
Anyone else using these mods please comment about the low light performace after the mod.
I haven't tried taking pictures in low-light conditions yet, I should, will do and compare later but under bright, sunshine outdoor, with Normal mode, I see virtually no difference in term of performance and image quality. There are several features that I haven't tried out yet.
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Hi all, I 've been thinking of buying a new phone & I really like the g2 very much but the only thing that is stopping me is the camera performance.
Can someone please tell me after the Jishu/xdadebb mod how is the camera performance under low light, how is the autofocus in low light also is the continuous autofocus in the video problem resolved. How much is the shutter lag after the mod.
I really want to buy this device for the camera & its under my budget if the camera ain't good enough even after the mods I may go with oppo find 7a/oneplus one which are in the same budget but have better camera.
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The low light camera quality is good. The mod makes very little difference to low light pictures.
Thanks guys for your responses. I think I might go with oppo find7. It's better than the g2 in every aspect except battery life & OS updates. Which can be taken care by the VOOC charger & custom roms respectively.
Hi I'm on the fence right now between buying the axon 7 European version and the oneus 3t and s7 edge. The only thing that holds me off is the camera.
I now hold the g5 that I'm planning to give to my wife. Now there is no way that she'll have a better camera than me .
So can you advise me pls?
Did the camera improved after nougat update?
Is the camera better with 3rd party cameras such as open caema app?
In every other field the axon 7 is an unbeatable beast
ItsNewDroid said:
Hi I'm on the fence right now between buying the axon 7 European version and the oneus 3t and s7 edge. The only thing that holds me off is the camera.
I now hold the g5 that I'm planning to give to my wife. Now there is no way that she'll have a better camera than me .
So can you advise me pls?
Did the camera improved after nougat update?
Is the camera better with 3rd party cameras such as open caema app?
In every other field the axon 7 is an unbeatable beast
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If you need a great camera on a phone get the s8/s7 or V20
From what I've seen it's not HORRIBLE, but it's not super good either. It's just... ok, I guess. As mentioned, if you want a better camera, get a Samsung or LG phone.
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Hi I'm on the fence right now between buying the axon 7 European version and the oneus 3t and s7 edge. The only thing that holds me off is the camera.
I now hold the g5 that I'm planning to give to my wife. Now there is no way that she'll have a better camera than me .
So can you advise me pls?
Did the camera improved after nougat update?
Is the camera better with 3rd party cameras such as open caema app?
In every other field the axon 7 is an unbeatable beast
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Well it's subjective, but keep in mind:
-The most flawed part of the camera is the software; ISOs are too high on manual mode
-Has high color noise, so photos aren't very good in the dark (unless you have a tripod, with which you can make some shet-in-your-pants photos)
-Very, I repeat VERY good on okay lighting conditions
-Already has RAW support
People usually say that the OP3 has a far better camera than this thing... I'm not that sure anymore, I compared an OP3T and my a7 and while it lacks on low light, the difference is still not that much.
Also different camera apps don't improve quality much, I used a bunch of them (HTC, Motorola, Google, LOS) and always find myself using the stock app for the simplicity and rather good design of it. The only thing worth complaining about is that you can only do 4x zoom on the stock camera, but you won't be using 8x digital too much anyways
The camera isn't bad, but it isn't as good as LG, Samsung or Apple, especially in low light. For the price of the phone it a pretty decent performer. I'm not sure if it improved as my phone got wet and the screen faild a few month back. I finally sent it in for repair today.
If Camera performance is a priority then the LG and Samsung are a better option. Where the Axon 7 shines is in audio both in it front facing speakers and headphone jack.
Check out pocketnow's review:
https://youtu.be/dTsg7EyYKFM
It's not even close to the performance of even older flagships in terms of overall usability. The Autofocus is so iffy that consider 1/2 of my quickshots are blurry as it just can't lock the target good.
On perfect scenes, the pics do hold up well against S7 and V20 but in terms of clarity there's just way too much noise.
The video performance is even worse often alot of noise show up and the low light video is completely unusable.
It's sad that the iPhone 6 which is much older beats it on all levels still photos, videos, AF, zoom.
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Well it's subjective, but keep in mind:
-The most flawed part of the camera is the software; ISOs are too high on manual mode
-Has high color noise, so photos aren't very good in the dark (unless you have a tripod, with which you can make some shet-in-your-pants photos)
-Very, I repeat VERY good on okay lighting conditions
-Already has RAW support
People usually say that the OP3 has a far better camera than this thing... I'm not that sure anymore, I compared an OP3T and my a7 and while it lacks on low light, the difference is still not that much.
Also different camera apps don't improve quality much, I used a bunch of them (HTC, Motorola, Google, LOS) and always find myself using the stock app for the simplicity and rather good design of it. The only thing worth complaining about is that you can only do 4x zoom on the stock camera, but you won't be using 8x digital too much anyways
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OnePlus 3 is better but not much better, the AF is a step up but still very iffy compare to S6 or S7. I even laughed that my Note 4 beats both the Axon7 and OP3 on just random quick shots. The OP3 often has blurry faces and washed out colors if the lighting is weak. Thats why the camera software on flagships are better they compensate the lack of lighting by fixing the images to good effects.
Any low light or fast action shots you take will yield better results in manual mode. I have the Axon 7 (US) and HTC 10. Daylight shots, the Axon wins. Better clarity due to the 20 megapixel camera (HTC 10 has 12 megapixel), and color saturation is more vivid. But low light or fast action shots, the Axon falls flat on its face. I can point and shoot with the HTC consistently, but with the Axon I have to play with manual mode settings to get a shot that's close to the HTC's. Even with that manipulation, the Axon still falls behind the HTC.
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Any low light or fast action shots you take will yield better results in manual mode. I have the Axon 7 (US) and HTC 10. Daylight shots, the Axon wins. Better clarity due to the 20 megapixel camera (HTC 10 has 12 megapixel), and color saturation is more vivid. But low light or fast action shots, the Axon falls flat on its face. I can point and shoot with the HTC consistently, but with the Axon I have to play with manual mode settings to get a shot that's close to the HTC's. Even with that manipulation, the Axon still falls behind the HTC.
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Yeah, I read somewhere that using manual mode would be better in low light. I'll have to try that once I get my Axon back from the ZTE service center.
The camera isn't great but is good for a $400 phone. We tend to compare it to more expensive flagships, so I guess I can't complain too much.
I got the Axon 7 for it's audio capabilities and all around good specs for the price, and new the camera probably wasn't going to be top tier.
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The camera isn't bad, but it isn't as good as LG, Samsung or Apple, especially in low light. For the price of the phone it a pretty decent performer. I'm not sure if it improved as my phone got wet and the screen faild a few month back. I finally sent it in for repair today.
If Camera performance is a priority then the LG and Samsung are a better option. Where the Axon 7 shines is in audio both in it front facing speakers and headphone jack.
Check out pocketnow's review:
https://youtu.be/dTsg7EyYKFM
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There is a new review from them:
https://youtu.be/l4lHnPOftbA
ItsNewDroid said:
Hi I'm on the fence right now between buying the axon 7 European version and the oneus 3t and s7 edge. The only thing that holds me off is the camera.
I now hold the g5 that I'm planning to give to my wife. Now there is no way that she'll have a better camera than me .
So can you advise me pls?
Did the camera improved after nougat update?
Is the camera better with 3rd party cameras such as open caema app?
In every other field the axon 7 is an unbeatable beast
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Cueball74 said:
Any low light or fast action shots you take will yield better results in manual mode. I have the Axon 7 (US) and HTC 10. Daylight shots, the Axon wins. Better clarity due to the 20 megapixel camera (HTC 10 has 12 megapixel), and color saturation is more vivid. But low light or fast action shots, the Axon falls flat on its face. I can point and shoot with the HTC consistently, but with the Axon I have to play with manual mode settings to get a shot that's close to the HTC's. Even with that manipulation, the Axon still falls behind the HTC.
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Yeah, I read somewhere that using manual mode would be better in low light. I'll have to try that once I get my Axon back from the ZTE service center.
The camera isn't great but is good for a $400 phone. We tend to compare it to more expensive flagships, so I guess I can't complain too much.
I got the Axon 7 for it's audio capabilities and all around good specs for the price, and new the camera probably wasn't going to be top tier.
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I have to say that I agree with everything said here, the camera is not top, but still gives a really nice results AS LONG AS YOU KNOW HOW TO PROPERLY USE IT.
This is not a camera for point and shoot in any situation, and as the guys pointed out, on daylight you will get amazing pictures, sharp and with nice colors. On low light... it really depends on your abilities.
I had the Mate 9 for a month, and I can say there wasn't so much difference between the 2, even on low light they were similar, but always the Mate 9 giving slightly better results.
One more thing, the video in the Axon 7 is kind of mediocre. I don't care about video, usually I don't record many videos, but I can say it was huge difference the video from the Mate 9 and the Axon 7. If you are a video guy, probably you would be disappointed with the Axon 7.
In the end, I gave back the Mate 9 and I kept the Axon 7 because for me, any smartphone should have a nice display, good camera, decent battery, excellent sound and nice performance. Axon 7 has all of those, but most important, the audio experience that no phone in the market can give you nowadays, and is the reason number one I won't change this phone soon.
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Already bought the axon 7 and its a nice phone. The camera is real bad. I can't believe there are such bad camera nowdays. Plus the vibrator motor is noisy and of bad quality. Beside that its pretty nice phone
in comparison to my huawei mate 9, the axon 7 camera is really GREAT. it's like 3 times better than mate 9's ****ty dual cam.
can you switch off the notification vibration? its really annoying me, particularly if you set a notification sound. you then have a vibration and the sound both overlapping each other.
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Already bought the axon 7 and its a nice phone. The camera is real bad. I can't believe there are such bad camera nowdays. Plus the vibrator motor is noisy and of bad quality. Beside that its pretty nice phone
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The camera is not bad. The vibratation motor is bad, I agree on that. But I think they could make it better if they reduced the vibration power, which I reckon it would be possible
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The camera is not bad. The vibratation motor is bad, I agree on that. But I think they could make it better if they reduced the vibration power, which I reckon it would be possible
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I've searched but could not find how to reduce vibrator intensity. Even in resurrection remix there is no option. Can you recommend what to do?
Launch night mode, you are golden. Daylight is pretty good. And I must you, if you take makro shots: its FAR better then any phone i know
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I've searched but could not find how to reduce vibrator intensity. Even in resurrection remix there is no option. Can you recommend what to do?
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You can't reduce the intensity on capacity buttons vibration.
Also, the minimum intensity on google keyboard is strong , hence you won't reduce the notifications vibration either, It must be hardcoded in a way that not even kernels can't fix ¿?. I don't know. I'm not a developer...maybe we should contact one...but the fact that it's too strong on both custom and stock roms suggests that it can't be fixed.
So I've managed to get used to the vibration intensity of the though I wish someone would be able to develop a way to control it.
Regarding the camera, I've found that snap camera works great and the post process is excellent and make the shots much more sharper. Video above 720p are still horrible but what can you do.? Nothing is perfect
The camera is very bad in low light, the photo will likely be blurry due to the camera app trying to capture more light. But it does ok in good lighting. You probably can't go wrong with the S7 Edge, it's camera is better than the Axon 7.
Check out their camera section, in low light the S7's camera does much better.
http://www.androidauthority.com/zte-axon-7-vs-samsung-galaxy-s7-722336/
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The camera is very bad in low light, the photo will likely be blurry due to the camera app trying to capture more light. But it does ok in good lighting. You probably can't go wrong with the S7 Edge, it's camera is better than the Axon 7.
Check out their camera section, in low light the S7's camera does much better.
http://www.androidauthority.com/zte-axon-7-vs-samsung-galaxy-s7-722336/
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That comparison was made with Marshmallow, and even when the S7 will always take better pictures, quality and focus improved a lot in Nougat.
zte mini camera
i know this is likely a dead topic, but have there been any software developments, either zte or custom rom, that have improved the axon mini's camera?
i read of a google pixel apk, does that install and work ok on the mini 7?