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HTC 8125 - Enable manual network selection - Cingular

I have searched and searched and still cannot figure out where & what to edit in the WM5 registry on my Cingular 8125 to allow me to manually select networks and edit the preferred networks list.
These items are blocked out on Cingular phones. I'm sure this can be brought back with registry hacks, but I've yet to find them
For those of us who do not want to update the complete ROM to an unsupported and/or problematic build - please help!! :shock:
The problem is that the near-by ATT tower gives me a full signal on my MPX200, the Cingular tower gives me 0 to 1 bar!
My new 8125 will only let me access the Cingular tower (with only 0 to 1 bar!) I need to be able to hop on the ATT tower manually, and set it as my preferred network.
Thanks for any help in advance. I've spent hours upon hours reading here, so I know you guys know your stuff! Come on, Come on...

did you load the extended rom on your 8125?
if not, there is an "enable eons" cab file that you may want to run. it won't allow manual network selection, but it should log you on to whatever tower is strongest...

how can i do that on my Tmobile MDA?

I'm also having a problem with reception issues, I called Cing and the tech support told me that my 8125 was setup to be ATT preferred even though my strongest and closest tower was Cing.
The lady said she switched me to Cing preferred and that I should notice a change in ~24 hrs, I guess I'll find out in another 13 hrs.

SkyyBoy said:
did you load the extended rom on your 8125?
if not, there is an "enable eons" cab file that you may want to run. it won't allow manual network selection, but it should log you on to whatever tower is strongest...
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Where is the extended rom? Is that all the Cingular stuff that installed on the first boot? If so, then yes, it's loaded.
Where can in find the enable eons cab you're talking about?
EDIT: I found what you are talking about, in FTP. I need to find detailed descriptions of these before I install them. Might be a work around, but still not exactly what we all need to get our WM5 back to normal. Thanks though.
I really wish someone could find the reg edits needed to bring these options back!
Anyone???

SkyyBoy said:
did you load the extended rom on your 8125?
if not, there is an "enable eons" cab file that you may want to run. it won't allow manual network selection, but it should log you on to whatever tower is strongest...
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I'm not so sure that CAB file is our friend. I'm running the latest AKU 2.2 ROM (2.25) without any Cingular files installed and man do I get much better reception. Used to be that I'd drop calls twice (at least between office & home) but not a problem since I stopped loading those Cing CABs!

kyphur said:
I'm not so sure that CAB file is our friend. I'm running the latest AKU 2.2 ROM (2.25) without any Cingular files installed and man do I get much better reception. Used to be that I'd drop calls twice (at least between office & home) but not a problem since I stopped loading those Cing CABs!
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So, do you have the options to set up your preferred networks? And manually choose which network to connect to?
Start > Settings > Phone > Options > Network tab
???
And how stable is that 2.25 ROM? Which product exactly was it meant for?
Thanks a bunch

Well I just upgraded to Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU22_Basic.exe and still have the same problem!
I went ahead and let the customizations install. It's gotta be one of those cabs that removing the manual network selection and preferred networks options!
This sucks because I want everything EXCEPT the one that's causing this. If I stop the customization process by soft-resetting right before it starts, is there a way to install the cabs one at a time??? Where are they actually stored on the device, I cant seem to find them.
Thanks in advance...

Ok, for an update...
I re-flashed to Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU22_Basic.exe and this time I did not let the customizations run. I did a soft-reset at the 3sec prompt.
Phone booted up, everything looks OEM, nothing Cingular at all. However... I STILL DO NOT have the options I'm looking for in Start > Settings > Phone > Network tab
There is supposed to be an option in WM5 to change between manual and automatic network selection, and a preferred networks list editor...
This is ridiculous! Is there maybe a block built into the SIM? How can I edit the SIM then? I NEED to remove this crap that Cingular's built in. Not letting us select networks and manage our preferred list is BS!
I really cannot believe there is no fix/hack out here yet for this... Help some one please!!

What SIM card do you have?
The solution may be worked around in the software but all Cingular 64k SIMS block setting preferred networks.
Cingular lately has been working to put a stop to excessive off network useage...hence the EONS file but that still is set by the SIM to save the preference.
Im sure someone with skills can write an app to load at startup that can do the same functions but at stock it's not possible.

I just confirmed that!! Damn SIM cards.
I was able to dig out my old ATT sim card and ALL the settings I was looking for were there!
Some one PLEASE come up with a way to either edit Cingular SIMs not to do this, or block them from doing it... please!

Check your PM, may be able to help you a bit

Thanks Decepticon, a possible work around. However, I really would like to put everyone to the test and fix this by blocking Cingulars SIM or registry entries from disabling network selection and preferred networks.
Here is an update every one:
Developers, listen up, shine for us on this one please
HKLM\Security\Phone\
L: 0
ManualDisable: 1
PreferredDisable: 1
I changed the two 1's to 0's and bam! I have the settings under Start > Settings > Phone > Network tab
I can view all networks, set to manual, look at preferred list, etc etc
BUT... when clicking OK, get an error "Unable to save settings on network, try again". So no settings stick
Also, after a softboot (properly waiting for registry to save) the above settings go back to 1's.
This has got to be something in the SIM, a program in Startup, or a registry setting that keeps changing these settings back upon boot. Because they are not programmed out, just blocked at boot.
Here is what I have listed in Startup:
CapNotify
custTDYTSK
Init_Tray
Magic_Button
poutlook
sddaemon
WiFiInit
Any of them suspicious?
Let's bang this out folks...
Can someone attempt to view Cingulars SIM contents and block whatever changes these registry values?
Anyhow, just some more info for ya'll :wink:

jberylec said:
I can view all networks, set to manual, look at preferred list, etc etc
BUT... when clicking Ok, get an error "Unable to save settings on network, try again". So no settings stick
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That's when it attempts to save the preferences to the SIM.
Unfortunately editing the registry wont be able to get this accompolished but I do hope someone can write a program that saves the preferences on the phone and use it to override the SIM upon tower selection.

Settings don't stay with a non-Cingular SIM after reboot
I used a foreign SIM on my Cingular 8125 and after registry was changed and soft reset it defaulted to origninal Cingular settings. Truley SAD! Any other ideas about registies that could make the Manual Network selection become available for use permanently? Got to be something else. How about posting the registy values from other HTC's (non-Cingular) or Cingular with that activated feature to perceive the difference.

You keep referring to:
Start > Settings > Phone > etc.
On my 8125, when I go to Start > Settings the only tabs I have to choose from are Personal, System, and Connections. Where is this Phone tab you keep mentioning?

BTW, I am running the Dopod 2.21 WWE rom on my Cingular 8125. I do have manual network selection available in the Phone control panel settings.

maxh said:
You keep referring to:
Start > Settings > Phone > etc.
On my 8125, when I go to Start > Settings the only tabs I have to choose from are Personal, System, and Connections. Where is this Phone tab you keep mentioning?
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It's not a tab. It's an icon in there. Click on it to open the phone settings. Then go to the "Network" tab at the bottom. You'll see a screen that just tells you what Network it's on, and one button called "Find Network".
Cingular's SIM card blocks the other buttons that let you manually select which networks to connect to, and lets you save your preferred network list.

SkyyBoy said:
BTW, I am running the Dopod 2.21 WWE rom on my Cingular 8125. I do have manual network selection available in the Phone control panel settings.
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So do you have those options WITH a Cingular SIM card in the phone?? Or are you using a different carriers SIM???

Common CONFUSION about SIM and FIRMWARE
Folks, the manual selection of the network is simply blocked in certain versions of ROM. Cingular in particular and on purpose has started doing that especially in the late versions of so-called HTC/Cingular ROM editions. Everything is about money now. So depending on SIM card (straight 64K or 3g 64k) your phone has more or less tendency to stick to this preferred CINGULAR network. However your ability to choose network manually solely depends on the ROM of your PDA/phone. I personally like Dopod 838 Rom 2.21 etc which works a whole lot better in all aspects. Trust my experience. AND you DO HAVE this ABILITY to manully select a provider. One more thing! Using a simple 64k SIM card on CINGULAR ROMS gives you FAR BETTER RECEPTION AND CLARITY than on 3g SIM card.

manual network selection

does anyone know to get manual network selection to work properly? no matter what ROM i've used, it just doesn't work right. When set to manual, and a network is selected, it will still start roaming on to another provider when the signal gets too low.
So is there anyway to force it stay on whatever provider i choose?

Hi,
I have a German device so I do not know if I translate the descriptions in the menu of the Wizard in exactly the right way.
However, in the properties of the "phone" part there is a tab named "network" or "provider". There you can see which provider you are connected to right now. Below is the menu "Provider selection" or "network selection", where you can switch from "automatic" to "manual". Below this is a switch which will make the phone look for all available networks, and then show them to you with a checkbox in front of every entry.
If you uncheck all except the one you want to use and tap the OK button in the upper right corner, the phone needs a few moments to update configuration and than it it should work. As I said, this is how it works on the German device, but I assume it will be the same on any other.

Clondyke said:
Hi,
I have a German device so I do not know if I translate the descriptions in the menu of the Wizard in exactly the right way.
However, in the properties of the "phone" part there is a tab named "network" or "provider". There you can see which provider you are connected to right now. Below is the menu "Provider selection" or "network selection", where you can switch from "automatic" to "manual". Below this is a switch which will make the phone look for all available networks, and then show them to you with a checkbox in front of every entry.
If you uncheck all except the one you want to use and tap the OK button in the upper right corner, the phone needs a few moments to update configuration and than it it should work. As I said, this is how it works on the German device, but I assume it will be the same on any other.
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Ahh, i see how its supposed to work. However i have a Cingular/ATT SIM card, and they lock certain abilities on the SIM, so it won't let me save any changes I make to that list, unfortunately. I guess i'm crap outta luck.

Wifi - How to add a hidden wifi network

Hi, got the HTC HD2 (Leo) since last week. I searched with Google, i search this forum, I read the wiki, faq and several posts, i read the 'don't start a thread!' post, still no luck.
At my work we us a non-broadcast wireless network (wifi) in other words, it's hidden. On my old P3300 with default windows mobile, I could easily add a network manually, but now with htc sense I can't find this option. Any idea if this is possible?
To make things clear: wifi IS working, when I go to the wifi settings I see some broadcasted networks but no option to add a network manually. The advanced menu don't give me that option neither.
Thanks, Paul

When you have the wifi settings open, click Advanced and then the "Change Network" button. Then just click "Add New". I guess you'll recognise the rest after that.
Good luck

Thanks,
I finally found it under Settings -> Menu -> More settings.
*Pfew*

[Q] URL access denied due to local filter list configuration

I have an HD2 (australian -Telstra NextG) 1.72.841.0 WWE Rom.
Works fine with the Telstra Sim and Data access is fine.
I'm setting up with an alternate sim - "Roaming Sim" (Sim with UK based number and data) so I can ease the roaming costs when I travel outside Australia.
New Sim works fine on voice calls, but there is a block when I try to access data.
The following message is displayed ...
Message ID:
FILTER_DENIED
Problem Description
Your system was configured to deny access to this URL.
Possible Problem Cause
Request denied, as specified in the local filter list configuration.
Possible Solution
Contact your network support team if this problem persists.
Data connection is fine with the Telstra Sim, but with the alternate sim and settings the above block stops any data access.
Any assistance would be much appreciated. Thanks

who is the sim with in the uk?

Settings -> All Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced -> Select Networks -> Edit (if you already have the details) or New (if you don't) for the data connection for the SIM. Make sure that all the settings are correct for the new SIM (you can easily find them with a search of the internet).

Richy99 said:
who is the sim with in the uk?
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The sim is marketed under the name "Roaming Sim" - for international travel - I believe it is an Irish based company, but the number is +44 prefix so a UK based number.
Their help desk was not very helpful "there is money in your account so things should work properly" and "no-one here has a HTC HD2, so we don't know what to suggest".
Thanks.

fred_up said:
Settings -> All Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced -> Select Networks -> Edit (if you already have the details) or New (if you don't) for the data connection for the SIM. Make sure that all the settings are correct for the new SIM (you can easily find them with a search of the internet).
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Thanks for the trail of where to change the settings - I've set the sim up as per their meager info and I've checked their web site for any info on the problem I'm having - nothing specific to assist there.
On a web search I found mention of a similar error message related to PCs and it was pointing to Proxy setting issues, but there are no Proxy Setting in Cellular Line (GPRS) setup (in setting up the APN for this sim).
I've also done a google of the exact error message in quotes and come up with no listings, hence me coming to the gurus at xda.

WoTo2 said:
The sim is marketed under the name "Roaming Sim" - for international travel - I believe it is an Irish based company, but the number is +44 prefix so a UK based number.
Their help desk was not very helpful "there is money in your account so things should work properly" and "no-one here has a HTC HD2, so we don't know what to suggest".
Thanks.
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quite possible they have blocked data use on it

Richy99 said:
quite possible they have blocked data use on it
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No I've checked that with supplier and Data is enabled with the sim.
I've contacted the Australian supplier of the sim and I'm waiting on their tech guru to phone me to try and work through the problem. I'll post if/when I get some resolution.
But don't let that stop you guys from having a go - so far the sim supplier's technical assistance has been very pleasant, but less than actually helpful at resolving the problem.

WoTo2 said:
No I've checked that with supplier and Data is enabled with the sim.
I've contacted the Australian supplier of the sim and I'm waiting on their tech guru to phone me to try and work through the problem. I'll post if/when I get some resolution.
But don't let that stop you guys from having a go - so far the sim supplier's technical assistance has been very pleasant, but less than actually helpful at resolving the problem.
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ok made sure you got the correct internet settings in the phone?

Thanks for the assistance - I have discovered the problem - it was me (obviously).
When I set up the New Network Settings I did not select Proxy settings and therefore did not check "This network connects to the internet".
If you do this (as above) then save - you can't come back to fix the error because you are not offered the Proxy Settings tab if the box wasn't checked on setup.
I've now set up a New network setting, (with Proxy- This network - checked) and I can now access data and URLs.
Thanks for taking the time to help me out, perhaps this might assist another nooby down the track.

How to set network to 4G only/3G only

It's troublesome to use EDGE only when turning on Mobile Data, and whenever I manually select networks, a 4G/3G option is always there, but it still uses EDGE for some reason.

This may be due to the signal strengh in your area...
However you can specify many options for which type of network you wish to connect to by opening the TESTING MENU and selecting Phone Info
Open your dialler as if you were going to make a phone call and dial
*#*#4636#*#* then after selecting Phone Info and " Set preferred network type" chose which network type you want from the long drop down list.
[This will reset to your normal selection when you reboot your phone.]

k500zm said:
This may be due to the signal strengh in your area...
However you can specify many options for which type of network you wish to connect to by opening the TESTING MENU and selecting Phone Info
Open your dialler as if you were going to make a phone call and dial
*#*#4636#*#* then after selecting Phone Info and " Set preferred network type" chose which network type you want from the long drop down list.
[This will reset to your normal selection when you reboot your phone.]
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I've tried this but this never works. Even when I set to (W)CDMA only, it's still on GSM/EDGE, and whenever I exit and reopen the menu, it goes back to the original setting, which is the 4G/3G/2G auto option.

I am having this exact problem, I need to be able to put my ZTE on wcdma only, any pointer will be helpful.
Thanks
PS: Running stock OS
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ojeysky said:
I am having this exact problem, I need to be able to put my ZTE on wcdma only, any pointer will be helpful.
Thanks
PS: Running stock OS
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Found one that finally worked, using *#*#4636#*#*. TD-SCDMA/WCDMA give 3g only. I hope someone finds this useful.

ojeysky said:
Found one that finally worked, using *#*#4636#*#*. TD-SCDMA/WCDMA give 3g only. I hope someone finds this useful.
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Thanks