HTC 8125 - Enable manual network selection - Cingular - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

I have searched and searched and still cannot figure out where & what to edit in the WM5 registry on my Cingular 8125 to allow me to manually select networks and edit the preferred networks list.
These items are blocked out on Cingular phones. I'm sure this can be brought back with registry hacks, but I've yet to find them
For those of us who do not want to update the complete ROM to an unsupported and/or problematic build - please help!! :shock:
The problem is that the near-by ATT tower gives me a full signal on my MPX200, the Cingular tower gives me 0 to 1 bar!
My new 8125 will only let me access the Cingular tower (with only 0 to 1 bar!) I need to be able to hop on the ATT tower manually, and set it as my preferred network.
Thanks for any help in advance. I've spent hours upon hours reading here, so I know you guys know your stuff! Come on, Come on...

did you load the extended rom on your 8125?
if not, there is an "enable eons" cab file that you may want to run. it won't allow manual network selection, but it should log you on to whatever tower is strongest...

how can i do that on my Tmobile MDA?

I'm also having a problem with reception issues, I called Cing and the tech support told me that my 8125 was setup to be ATT preferred even though my strongest and closest tower was Cing.
The lady said she switched me to Cing preferred and that I should notice a change in ~24 hrs, I guess I'll find out in another 13 hrs.

SkyyBoy said:
did you load the extended rom on your 8125?
if not, there is an "enable eons" cab file that you may want to run. it won't allow manual network selection, but it should log you on to whatever tower is strongest...
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Where is the extended rom? Is that all the Cingular stuff that installed on the first boot? If so, then yes, it's loaded.
Where can in find the enable eons cab you're talking about?
EDIT: I found what you are talking about, in FTP. I need to find detailed descriptions of these before I install them. Might be a work around, but still not exactly what we all need to get our WM5 back to normal. Thanks though.
I really wish someone could find the reg edits needed to bring these options back!
Anyone???

SkyyBoy said:
did you load the extended rom on your 8125?
if not, there is an "enable eons" cab file that you may want to run. it won't allow manual network selection, but it should log you on to whatever tower is strongest...
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I'm not so sure that CAB file is our friend. I'm running the latest AKU 2.2 ROM (2.25) without any Cingular files installed and man do I get much better reception. Used to be that I'd drop calls twice (at least between office & home) but not a problem since I stopped loading those Cing CABs!

kyphur said:
I'm not so sure that CAB file is our friend. I'm running the latest AKU 2.2 ROM (2.25) without any Cingular files installed and man do I get much better reception. Used to be that I'd drop calls twice (at least between office & home) but not a problem since I stopped loading those Cing CABs!
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So, do you have the options to set up your preferred networks? And manually choose which network to connect to?
Start > Settings > Phone > Options > Network tab
???
And how stable is that 2.25 ROM? Which product exactly was it meant for?
Thanks a bunch

Well I just upgraded to Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU22_Basic.exe and still have the same problem!
I went ahead and let the customizations install. It's gotta be one of those cabs that removing the manual network selection and preferred networks options!
This sucks because I want everything EXCEPT the one that's causing this. If I stop the customization process by soft-resetting right before it starts, is there a way to install the cabs one at a time??? Where are they actually stored on the device, I cant seem to find them.
Thanks in advance...

Ok, for an update...
I re-flashed to Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU22_Basic.exe and this time I did not let the customizations run. I did a soft-reset at the 3sec prompt.
Phone booted up, everything looks OEM, nothing Cingular at all. However... I STILL DO NOT have the options I'm looking for in Start > Settings > Phone > Network tab
There is supposed to be an option in WM5 to change between manual and automatic network selection, and a preferred networks list editor...
This is ridiculous! Is there maybe a block built into the SIM? How can I edit the SIM then? I NEED to remove this crap that Cingular's built in. Not letting us select networks and manage our preferred list is BS!
I really cannot believe there is no fix/hack out here yet for this... Help some one please!!

What SIM card do you have?
The solution may be worked around in the software but all Cingular 64k SIMS block setting preferred networks.
Cingular lately has been working to put a stop to excessive off network useage...hence the EONS file but that still is set by the SIM to save the preference.
Im sure someone with skills can write an app to load at startup that can do the same functions but at stock it's not possible.

I just confirmed that!! Damn SIM cards.
I was able to dig out my old ATT sim card and ALL the settings I was looking for were there!
Some one PLEASE come up with a way to either edit Cingular SIMs not to do this, or block them from doing it... please!

Check your PM, may be able to help you a bit

Thanks Decepticon, a possible work around. However, I really would like to put everyone to the test and fix this by blocking Cingulars SIM or registry entries from disabling network selection and preferred networks.
Here is an update every one:
Developers, listen up, shine for us on this one please
HKLM\Security\Phone\
L: 0
ManualDisable: 1
PreferredDisable: 1
I changed the two 1's to 0's and bam! I have the settings under Start > Settings > Phone > Network tab
I can view all networks, set to manual, look at preferred list, etc etc
BUT... when clicking OK, get an error "Unable to save settings on network, try again". So no settings stick
Also, after a softboot (properly waiting for registry to save) the above settings go back to 1's.
This has got to be something in the SIM, a program in Startup, or a registry setting that keeps changing these settings back upon boot. Because they are not programmed out, just blocked at boot.
Here is what I have listed in Startup:
CapNotify
custTDYTSK
Init_Tray
Magic_Button
poutlook
sddaemon
WiFiInit
Any of them suspicious?
Let's bang this out folks...
Can someone attempt to view Cingulars SIM contents and block whatever changes these registry values?
Anyhow, just some more info for ya'll :wink:

jberylec said:
I can view all networks, set to manual, look at preferred list, etc etc
BUT... when clicking Ok, get an error "Unable to save settings on network, try again". So no settings stick
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That's when it attempts to save the preferences to the SIM.
Unfortunately editing the registry wont be able to get this accompolished but I do hope someone can write a program that saves the preferences on the phone and use it to override the SIM upon tower selection.

Settings don't stay with a non-Cingular SIM after reboot
I used a foreign SIM on my Cingular 8125 and after registry was changed and soft reset it defaulted to origninal Cingular settings. Truley SAD! Any other ideas about registies that could make the Manual Network selection become available for use permanently? Got to be something else. How about posting the registy values from other HTC's (non-Cingular) or Cingular with that activated feature to perceive the difference.

You keep referring to:
Start > Settings > Phone > etc.
On my 8125, when I go to Start > Settings the only tabs I have to choose from are Personal, System, and Connections. Where is this Phone tab you keep mentioning?

BTW, I am running the Dopod 2.21 WWE rom on my Cingular 8125. I do have manual network selection available in the Phone control panel settings.

maxh said:
You keep referring to:
Start > Settings > Phone > etc.
On my 8125, when I go to Start > Settings the only tabs I have to choose from are Personal, System, and Connections. Where is this Phone tab you keep mentioning?
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It's not a tab. It's an icon in there. Click on it to open the phone settings. Then go to the "Network" tab at the bottom. You'll see a screen that just tells you what Network it's on, and one button called "Find Network".
Cingular's SIM card blocks the other buttons that let you manually select which networks to connect to, and lets you save your preferred network list.

SkyyBoy said:
BTW, I am running the Dopod 2.21 WWE rom on my Cingular 8125. I do have manual network selection available in the Phone control panel settings.
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So do you have those options WITH a Cingular SIM card in the phone?? Or are you using a different carriers SIM???

Common CONFUSION about SIM and FIRMWARE
Folks, the manual selection of the network is simply blocked in certain versions of ROM. Cingular in particular and on purpose has started doing that especially in the late versions of so-called HTC/Cingular ROM editions. Everything is about money now. So depending on SIM card (straight 64K or 3g 64k) your phone has more or less tendency to stick to this preferred CINGULAR network. However your ability to choose network manually solely depends on the ROM of your PDA/phone. I personally like Dopod 838 Rom 2.21 etc which works a whole lot better in all aspects. Trust my experience. AND you DO HAVE this ABILITY to manully select a provider. One more thing! Using a simple 64k SIM card on CINGULAR ROMS gives you FAR BETTER RECEPTION AND CLARITY than on 3g SIM card.

Related

Complete newb to my Qtek... (Cingular US Settings)

Hi there, I'm about to update my Qtek 9100 to the latest WWE ROM posted last week. Is there anything very important I should know before I do this? I already backed up all my information and files, and I'm currently running on the Cingular US network. I tried searching for the official Cingular 8125 ROM but wasn't able to find it. I really, REALLY want to have the exact same settings as the 8125 does for connecting to the internet so I get full speed EDGE and the best phone signal it can offer. Could anybody please tell me how to set up my Qtek so it's exactly the same, including the E icon when I'm in an EDGE-covered area? I did a search for everything, but all I managed to find were a bunch of posts where everybody knew what everybody else was talking about. I managed to find the cab file named "Signed_Edge_Icon.sa" but I honestly have no idea what to do with it. As I said, I'm completely new to this, and I just want my Qtek 9100 to perform the best it possible can on Cingular's network. Thank you so much!
Cingular Settings
Hi,
Cingular has a blow by blow description of the settings.
https://onlinecare.cingular.com/dev...ingular.atgnow.com/cng/tutorials/KB56475.html
are the internet settings
.... and .....
https://onlinecare.cingular.com/dev...ingular.atgnow.com/cng/tutorials/KB56044.html
are the MMS settings
And for the cab file, just use activesync (press the explore icon) to drag the cab file to you phone and then tap it to run it.
Cool, I got that cab installed, but I'm having trouble with those Cingular settings... I don't have a "Set up Proxy Server" option under the first My ISP list. I do have it under My Work Network, but to my understanding that is a completely different connection option. Is it okay to have the wap.cingular connection under My ISP and the proxy server information under My Work Network, or should I just put everything under My Work Network and leave My ISP alone?
Through my experience the proxy settings for Cingular do two things (one good one bad) and your decision to use them should be based on which is more necessary to you.
1. The proxy settings allow you to use the MEdia Net homepage at device.home
2. The proxy settings screw with your WIFI connection and cause timeout errors and such when attempting to browse at home.
I personally find that the MEdia Net homepage is nice, but I can live without it or even replace it with other things like google.com/ig.
If you want to enable the proxy settings on the My ISP panel go to the advanced tab and create a new profile where My ISP is. For some reason the new one will allow you to put in proxy settings, but the default My ISP won't.

Network Configuration Settings

Is there any way to get latest network configuration settings cab coz my rom don't have it. Newer roms have it but they are slower than this one so I don't want to use new rom. I found one on the internet, but that file is from 2007.
Thanx
what do you mean network config ?
as in gprs and mms settings?
if so then unless your operator have a habbit of
changing their settings often leaving all their
customers fustrated i daresay that using a 2007 would be
acceptable
I was thinking on Network Wizard, who starts anytime I reset my device coz there is no settings for my provider (which is new and operate about year in my country)... I found new setting in some other new rom but that rom is slower much more than this one that I use. So I need external cab with latest settings to install. I have a Kaiser.
Thanx
P.S. I check it again and that is a windows called Connection Setup where is message that my operator don't exist in database and to ask operator for connection settings. In new rom this thing automatic recognize my operater but in this older faster rom i don't have latest version and there is no matching in database
if your operator support mms and gprs there are settings
non wm phones use the same settings as wm phones
even if the users never see the settings
so if they support gprs and mms there are settings
you can use
Link attached
dont know if u still need it.. but heres what yer lookin for! HTC NETWORK WIZARD
http://rapidshare.com/files/66087193/HTC_Network_Wizard_KAISER_1_0_29981_1.cab
Always glad to help!
Automatic Network settings confuguration when SIM card changed
Does the Wizard for Kaiser also work on Fuze?
I have a Fuze and also the HTC MAX 4G - when I switch SIM card on 4G - it automatically notifies me that my SIM card does not match the Operator Settings and if I want to change settings automatically - if I say "Yes" it reconfigures the settings automatically and all works perfect.
However if I do same on Fuze - change the SIM from AT&T to Swisscom - it will not aquire th esettings - I have to do it manually, which means I have to have these written down.
I wonder if there is a setting to enable th eaouto network configurator as MAX 4G and Fuze both use WM6.1 and are made by HTC.
im guessing that the network wizard is OS dependant - EG if you have an xperia wm6.1 then it will work on kaiser 6.1.
I am looking for a cab for HTC Connection Setup 1.5.34057.2. I've been all over this forum and can't find it. I might have to go back to the one from the Kaiser.

T-mobile Pro 2 Push Internet

I have been going through the t-mobile version of the touch pro 2 and I have not been able to find the settings for "Push Internet".
I did a quick google and found that the T-mobile EU version has removed it, so I assume that the US version also has the same problem.
Is this a rom upgrade issue or is there a cab that can be installed to override the t-mobile settings on the touchflo 3D 2.1?
Thanks,
tech_e said:
I have been going through the t-mobile version of the touch pro 2 and I have not been able to find the settings for "Push Internet".
I did a quick google and found that the T-mobile EU version has removed it, so I assume that the US version also has the same problem.
Is this a rom upgrade issue or is there a cab that can be installed to override the t-mobile settings on the touchflo 3D 2.1?
Thanks,
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Unless someone on this forum is really clever, I think that we will have to wait until we can flash to a different rom
skyler17 said:
Unless someone on this forum is really clever, I think that we will have to wait until we can flash to a different rom
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I was hoping that like many things disabled from the pro 2, a quick registry hack might be possible. Anyone know how?
sorry, removed! but at least the FM radio and extra camera settings are found on this blog!
try in here...
HKCU/Software/HTC/Manila.
among the sub file:
-Internet.SetOperaForeground
-InternetPush.PostFirstRun
-PushMailOn
-DefaultBrowserIsIE
those look like points of interest. try changing the values around on those. i already turned the push mail on. but i havent seen a difference yet. maybe because i havent rebooted. but yeah, ill try those and get back to you..
I maybe too newbie but is it T-Mobile (UK?) settings?
Has the push function been removed from the ROM, or is it T-Mobile settings... I couldn't get MS Exchange to sync with T-Mobile default 3g settings so used these which worked... I don't know if it will help th push internet too... Just trying to help, if it's not relevant then flaming not appreciated!
Under the connections tab, edit existing connections...
ISP Name - T-Mobile GPRS
Name of Connection T-Mobile GPRS
Connection Type - Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)
Portal - general.t-mobile.uk
Username - user
Password - one2one
The default settings use a proxy server which some applications don't like.
josh_prayyforplagues said:
try in here...
HKCU/Software/HTC/Manila.
among the sub file:
-Internet.SetOperaForeground
-InternetPush.PostFirstRun
-PushMailOn
-DefaultBrowserIsIE
those look like points of interest. try changing the values around on those. i already turned the push mail on. but i havent seen a difference yet. maybe because i havent rebooted. but yeah, ill try those and get back to you..
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I took a look through the registry, I went through the whole thing. I notice in software/HTC/manila there is the settings for push internet. I messed with some settings and it looks like the push internet is enabled by default but the touchflo program is missing the push internet settings button.
Is there a way to hack the layout links on the TF program through the reg?
I dont think you can access TF settings through the registry. i have seen many settings for it. just a couple here and there. We may need a fix for it in the form of a CAB. i dont see anyone figuring this out through RegEdits. im sure a lot of people have been through it and tried different things, so we may just have to wait for a new ROM?
tech_e said:
I have been going through the t-mobile version of the touch pro 2 and I have not been able to find the settings for "Push Internet".
I did a quick google and found that the T-mobile EU version has removed it, so I assume that the US version also has the same problem.
Is this a rom upgrade issue or is there a cab that can be installed to override the t-mobile settings on the touchflo 3D 2.1?
Thanks,
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what do you mean 'push internet'??? are you referring to push email?
201reyes said:
what do you mean 'push internet'??? are you referring to push email?
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Push internet is a new thing in the TP2. It downloads web pages on a schedule so they're ready when you need it. T-mobile took out the feature, presumably to save bandwidth.
Epiktetus said:
Push internet is a new thing in the TP2. It downloads web pages on a schedule so they're ready when you need it. T-mobile took out the feature, presumably to save bandwidth.
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aahhh!!! didn't know that...thanx
I have been checking through reg again.
I think that in the Hkey_CU/Software/HTC/Manila/ we are missing some of the Keys to push internet. I see that you can setup some of the push internet features but there are no options like the URL, download times, or anything, but just below the same area allows you to configure almost every other auto download service like schedule your stock, and download times, weather, auto-download.
Maybe someone with push internet working can post a pic of the push internet settings from Hkey_CU/Software/HTC/Manila/
There's also bound to be an XML file or additional settings in the existing one (InternetPortal-en-us.xml) and t-mobile might have removed a DLL or two. What we really need is a file-comparison of the two devices as well as a registry comparison.

Is it not possible to select a new access point with the updated official ROM?

Hi there. I have set up a new access point (in an attempt to get some Facebook connection) and although it allows me to create a new profile, it doesn't then give me the option to select it - there is no tick box or button push even though the new profile is now in the list. I have just upgraded my ROM from the HTC site and am unbranded although using Voda in the UK.
Many thanks for your help, in advance.
I found the same as you, it does seem different to the old ROM. I changed the active Vodafone settings to the wap APN, logged off and on and this worked for me.
B
I feel its not selectable anymore as its automatic.
I may be wrong though.
Type "default" in the "APN type" field.
I wrote to HTC help and this is what their reponse. I am using the Hero on TMo US.
"I would first recommend that you perform a simple soft reset, which can be done by removing the battery and replacing it to restart your phone. Once that has been done see if you are able to switch APN setting, if you are not then I would recommend that you attempt to re-flash the operating system to your phone. Once the operating system or ROM has been re-flashed to your phone then I would recommend that you attempt to re-setup and connect to the T-Mobile US APN, if it doesn’t work, please attempt to use another SIM card. If all of this does not work can you please contact us back and inform us of this so we can look into further troubleshooting."
i just changed the telkila settings since it was set as the default apn.
yeah, all you should need is 'default' set as the APN type, and then if you have more than one of those, the selection thing usually appears.
any you have set as 'mms' will not be selectable.

T-Mobile UK ROM Question

Hi all, first of all i'd like to say you're all doing an amazing job!
Basically I have a HTC HD2 ROM with the T-Mobile UK stock ROM.
This ROM has been tweaked (made worse) by T-Mobile, for example removing YouTube and turning Opera into Web'n'Walk.
The issue is that T-Mobile disallows us to download the ROM's from the official HTC website because T-Mobile need to re-release this ROM with its restrictions. The problem is that 4 months after the first ROM release, and newer versions constantly appearing, T-Mobile has not even released one newer ROM version for us to download. I was wondering how/if I could download a ROM from here and if this would make the phone stop working? I am aware this will void my warranty but this isn't of a great concern to me.
I am mostly concerned that I will no longer be able to send messages and make phone calls with T-Mobile if I download a cooked ROM.
My ROM is version 1.43.110.2 (70315) WWE
Thanks, Cristian
hey...
I had the same rom as you (tmobile uk upgrade)
I have flashed about 8 roms so far so no worries there
HSPL
Hi mate I bought mu HD 2 from my friend T-MOBILE ugrade 350 £ btw and a just use HSPL after install official rom 1.66 radio too and now just testing cooked ROM and got no problemas at all ! And I am oringe customer fast internet perfect signal almost everywhere ...
Goodluck
Hi thanks for your responses that was really fast
I've seen that I can download HSPL from XDA so there's no problem there i'll follow the instructions posted.
So once I install the HSPL I can simply download the ROM from the HTC Website?
I was just worried that installing a new ROM would clear the settings set by T-Mobile such as text messaging and making calls? If this is the case then is there any way to restore them?
Thanks again
Your sim card contains all the data needed for the phone to set up data and sms and the like.
If it doesnt, there are hundreds of threads on how to manually enter data connections.(2 minute job)
Thanks for your reply, I have just installed the HSPL.
When I enter my serial number into the HTC website it says it is invalid (this is because of T-Mobile) Do you know how can I work around this?
I'm really sorry for all the questions I'm new at this
bump bump bump
Thats because your serial is still invalid, even though you installed HSPL.It always will be.
Go to the official roms thread in the rom development section,
first post, first link. Look through the folders for the rom you want. (I suspect you want the 1.66 folder, look for the wwe rom.)
I have just updated to official ROM 1.66 from this website
I am able to make and send both calls and texts but the Internet connection is no longer working. How do I attain these settings?
T-Mobile UK
Please help
Many thanks
fisrt - go to settings tab - menu - all settings - connections - connection setup.
Run that.
If that doesnt do it,
settings tab - menu - all settings - connections - connections - and in the mobile web settings set up a new data connection, using the data you find HERE
Also worth looking in start menu, scroll to end, have a look for a branded 'sim card' style icon, probably called just 'T Mobile' that is put there by your sim card. Give that a try.
There is no sim card style icon or any t-mobile related in the start menu
I have typed those settings, twice, the phone connects successfully to the network, but only for a minute before disconnecting. It simply keeps disconnecting after a minute or so
t mo put a proxy in with their settings
settings tab - menu - all settings - connections - connections - tap manage existing connection - jump to the proxy tab and untick 'this connection proxy blablah'
Give that a try.
that doesnt work either, any ideas?
Very odd that it should connet and then disconnect a minute or so later. It isn;t just closing because it's idle, is it? Can you surf while its active?
thanks for all your help by the way
i dont think so because its not idle, it stops midway while being used.
i had to recover my phone using microsoft my phone in chunks..
yeah i can surf but only for a little bit
very odd. Just so you can double check, here is the info as i would put it in. (Im sure you got it right, just being thorough)
settings - menu - all settings - connections - connections - add a new modem connection (in the mobile web section)
(If you want to delete your other one, choose manage existing and switch to the general tab and choose delete settings.)
enter any name you want.
line type - celular line (GPRS)
next
access point name is - general.t-mobile.uk
next
user name - user
password - wap
*** ive just read in another thread that the password is pass for contract so try that ***
domain - leave blank
lol, also just came across this
GPRS Internet service
Access point: general.t-mobile.uk
User name: user
Password: one2one
heh, sadly im not on t mo so i cant test them for you.
if you put general.t-mobile.uk into google, you will find lots of pages of info about setting up data.
im trying it with the password as 'pass'
looks promising, ill post back in a minute =]
you absolute legend it works
it didnt work at first after i changed the password
but i stumbled upon a menu in which 'automatically retrieve internet settings' was checked, so i looked back to where i typed in 'pass' and it looked like ***********.
so i unticked the box and changed the password back to pass, again
it works.
thanks so much
very very very impressed
heh winner, and no worries. On the plus side if you have to do it again it will be easy!

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