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After using Galaxy S4 (I9500GT) for almost an year with lollipop, I recently shifted to Note 3 (SM-N9000). As S4 was a perfect companion performance wise, even in Power-Saver, I was expecting Note 3 be atleast the same if not better. However, I am facing a few issues mentioned below:
In Multiwindow mode, the video sometimes lag when I focus on other application. Then I need to restart the phone.
Sometimes while in fullscreen, with no heavy app in background (I play no Asphalt or Modern Warfare), my video starts lagging heavily.
Sometimes there is a slight Audio/Video sync issue.
I do not know what to do. Power-Saver turned off-on-off several times, no positive results.
The same never happened in my S4
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I keep on changing ROMs, but I always clear everything and this happened on stock which I flashed through ODIN with "Erase NAND" enabled. So this is always a fresh install.
Please help
Also guide me on one thing. As I have used Samsung for years, I now know which apps to safely disable. On TouchWiz-Lolly, I disable almost 50 apps on my Note 3(like I used to do on my S4). So it is quite lag-free overall(except videos). Now I am getting a SoT of around 6.5-7.5 hours with 30-50% brightness. Disable every useless TouchWiz feature like sensors
I do not use location frequently, and keep switching between WiFi and 2G(Yes, 2G).
Is this battery performance decent, or do I need any more tweaks?
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I use nova launcher, its way faster then stock samsuck.
Disable all animation, they add lag.
Video-Use MXplayer with hard acc ON, and same for bsplayer.
Regarding app , you mean unckeck from startup( like msconfig on PC) or disabled from ALL/APP?
From all/app disable only crappware like: yahoo new, bloomberg or something.
On startup app you need to unckeck them, with android tuner. Disable all games, and apps that do not need them in memory ram.
Even my tegra 2 asus sl101 tablet get some lag on video , but with hardware acc ON is quite ok.
My n9005 with lollipop is identical with wife n9005( 4.3 android) except one: lollipop start videos faster, in any video app.
Disabled from All Apps
Having Lag & Heat Issues???
Is anyone having lag issue or any heat issues? I guess I have one of the problem notes as mine has extreme lag and heat problems. I have cleared all caches and have also factory reset several times. What's weird is that the lag will come and go, but it's there more often than not. Even scrolling in settings has the jitters.
Any ideas anyone. I might be better off going through the miserable process of exchanging through the mail.
Thanks in advance for any help!
You'll have to boot to safe mode to see if the issue persists. Also, make sure power saving mode isn't on (I've left it on before).
Majin101 said:
You'll have to boot to safe mode to see if the issue persists. Also, make sure power saving mode isn't on (I've left it on before).
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I'm experiencing the same issues - overheating, slowing down, serious lag. It's simply terrible. I exchanged it and the new one is just as bad and maybe even worse.
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I'm experiencing the same issues - overheating, slowing down, serious lag. It's simply terrible. I exchanged it and the new one is just as bad and maybe even worse.
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welcome to samsung
I have none of these problems and i am a heavy user
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My guess is it has to do with one or multiple of the apps you have installed. There is a 3 step process to fix this issue.
#1 - See if any of the apps you have installed are running rouge. Check, battery usage, RAM usage, and Data Usage to see if you have any bad apps. Uninstall any 3rd party apps that you installed that are running too much. They may just still need updated to be optimized for this new device. Also you can use the "sleep" (doze) feature in battery management to restrict apps that are running TOO much in the background. Also on any apps that are using too much data or RAM check the permissions. If an app does not need access to Data, Media etc to work properly turn off those permissions.
#2 Debloat the device. I like "Package Disabler Pro". Basically if it has Facebook, FB, or ATT in the name you should disable it. Also you can go through an disable any Samsung software you do not use as well. I would be careful about using the "disable all bloatware" button because it is not setup correctly for this new device yet.
#3 Give it some time. It you have a TON of media on a micro EXSD card then it can take a new phone a long time to index and create thumbnails for all of that information. It should speed up i about a day or so once it finishes indexing. this will also effect your battery life till it is completed.
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My guess is it has to do with one or multiple of the apps you have installed. There is a 3 step process to fix this issue.
#1 - See if any of the apps you have installed are running rouge. Check, battery usage, RAM usage, and Data Usage to see if you have any bad apps. Uninstall any 3rd party apps that you installed that are running too much. They may just still need updated to be optimized for this new device. Also you can use the "sleep" (doze) feature in battery management to restrict apps that are running TOO much in the background. Also on any apps that are using too much data or RAM check the permissions. If an app does not need access to Data, Media etc to work properly turn off those permissions.
#2 Debloat the device. I like "Package Disabler Pro". Basically if it has Facebook, FB, or ATT in the name you should disable it. Also you can go through an disable any Samsung software you do not use as well. I would be careful about using the "disable all bloatware" button because it is not setup correctly for this new device yet.
#3 Give it some time. It you have a TON of media on a micro EXSD card then it can take a new phone a long time to index and create thumbnails for all of that information. It should speed up i about a day or so once it finishes indexing. this will also effect your battery life till it is completed.
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I used the disable all bloatware. Looks to be working fine.
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I used the disable all bloatware. Looks to be working fine.
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Yeah it will break Samsung Pay though... I think it's related to the UIBCVirtualSiftkey app, but have not confirmed that. Also it does not get nearly all of the bloatware. There is a ton of new AT&T junk it does not disable as well as a bunch of new Facebook crap and Samsung crap.
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Yeah it will break Samsung Pay though... I think it's related to the UIBCVirtualSiftkey app, but have not confirmed that. Also it does not get nearly all of the bloatware. There is a ton of new AT&T junk it does not disable as well as a bunch of new Facebook crap and Samsung crap.
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Can you provide a list?
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Can you provide a list?
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Definitely. It gave me the perfect opportunity to try out the scroll capture. Let me know if you have any questions. This is what I have disabled so far without any issues. Once I get a full completed list I'll probably do a write up about how to clean up the dock ROM. I think I'm about 70% done with the list.
So far I'm getting about 6.5 hrs of SOT and about 28 his of usage.
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Definitely. It gave me the perfect opportunity to try out the scroll capture. Let me know if you have any questions. This is what I have disabled so far without any issues. Once I get a full completed list I'll probably do a write up about how to clean up the dock ROM. I think I'm about 70% done with the list.
So far I'm getting about 6.5 hrs of SOT and about 28 his of usage.
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What is the file that could mess up Samsung pay? I can always restore disabled apps correct?
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borijess said:
What is the file that could mess up Samsung pay? I can always restore disabled apps correct?
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I am not positive but I think it's the UIBCVirtualSoftkey if the doesn't fix it. Just enable all of the stuff you disabled and reboot. Then only disable what's on my list. I can confirm is working with my setup.
I'm exchanging mine tomorrow and was hoping for better news but from your experience it sounds like I may have to deal with an expensive piece of crap.
ShrekOpher said:
My guess is it has to do with one or multiple of the apps you have installed. There is a 3 step process to fix this issue.
#1 - See if any of the apps you have installed are running rouge. Check, battery usage, RAM usage, and Data Usage to see if you have any bad apps. Uninstall any 3rd party apps that you installed that are running too much. They may just still need updated to be optimized for this new device. Also you can use the "sleep" (doze) feature in battery management to restrict apps that are running TOO much in the background. Also on any apps that are using too much data or RAM check the permissions. If an app does not need access to Data, Media etc to work properly turn off those permissions.
#2 Debloat the device. I like "Package Disabler Pro". Basically if it has Facebook, FB, or ATT in the name you should disable it. Also you can go through an disable any Samsung software you do not use as well. I would be careful about using the "disable all bloatware" button because it is not setup correctly for this new device yet.
#3 Give it some time. It you have a TON of media on a micro EXSD card then it can take a new phone a long time to index and create thumbnails for all of that information. It should speed up i about a day or so once it finishes indexing. this will also effect your battery life till it is completed.
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I used this app and it's worked wonders.
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This phone lags a lot especially in Chrome and other scrolling apps.. sometimes switching between apps takes lot of time too...I have been using Samsung phones for quite sometime, but unfortunately this is the phone lagging more than any other phone for me..debloated almost 150 apps, still the same..and it gets hot as well when watching videos...none of this happened for me on Note 5...I think Samsung screwed with Note7 software..when they initially released Grace UX software for Note 5, it was very smooth...but the final Note7 software seems to be laggy...the same apps and setup on Note5 doesn't give me these issues....gonna return and try my luck with new one...but good thing is battery life has been very good for me...easily 5hrs SOT whereas on Note5, I used to get only 3.5 hrs
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chrispyutec said:
Having Lag & Heat Issues???
Is anyone having lag issue or any heat issues? I guess I have one of the problem notes as mine has extreme lag and heat problems. I have cleared all caches and have also factory reset several times. What's weird is that the lag will come and go, but it's there more often than not. Even scrolling in settings has the jitters.
Any ideas anyone. I might be better off going through the miserable process of exchanging through the mail.
Thanks in advance for any help!
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I am exactly facing this issue..I am a heavy XDA user, so I monitor all the apps on phone and debloated lot (around 150) apps...still the same.. thing is lag doesn't happen all the times..but it starts from no where..but the phone consistently gets hot while moderate usage
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When the phone is working properly, bloatware should make no noticeable difference and debloating is unnecessary.
My Note 7 usually responds instantly, with no lag, no matter how heavily I'm using it. That's with nothing disabled or debloated. (I'm using the Google Now launcher but everything else is stock/default, with no esoteric apps or settings.)
However, on three occasions in the week I've had the phone, it's gotten into a mode with serious lag while typing. In this mode, even though the characters I type still show up on the screen instantly, I can type 3 or 4 characters with no sound feedback or vibration feedback; then, there will be 3 or 4 delayed clicks and vibrations in rapid succession.
When this serious-lag mode starts, it continues even if I close all apps and put the phone in Airplane mode. It also makes no difference if I turn on power-saving mode, or even maximum power-saving. The only thing I've found that fixes it (for a while) is rebooting.
The intermittent occurrence of the serious-lag problem shows that it's not a matter of the phone being underpowered or overloaded. There's some specific bug that needs to be fixed.
UPDATE: It just happened for a fourth time. And when the serious-lag mode starts, it's not just typing that has a delay with audio feedback. The feedback delay also occurs when I tap on icons, tap on the Back or Recent-apps soft-buttons, etc. There's a delay of up to a second or two between tapping and hearing the feedback.
On the other hand, compute-intensive tasks--such as playing streaming video--work properly even when the phone is in serious-lag mode. So that's further evidence that there is some specific bug, and not a general problem of being underpowered or overloaded.
Gary02468 said:
When the phone is working properly, bloatware should make no noticeable difference and debloating is unnecessary.
My Note 7 usually responds instantly, with no lag, no matter how heavily I'm using it. That's with nothing disabled or debloated. (I'm using the Google Now launcher but everything else is stock/default, with no esoteric apps or settings.)
However, on three occasions in the week I've had the phone, it's gotten into a mode with serious lag while typing. In this mode, even though the characters I type still show up on the screen instantly, I can type 3 or 4 characters with no sound feedback or vibration feedback; then, there will be 3 or 4 delayed clicks and vibrations in rapid succession.
When this serious-lag mode starts, it continues even if I close all apps and put the phone in Airplane mode. It also makes no difference if I turn on power-saving mode, or even maximum power-saving. The only thing I've found that fixes it (for a while) is rebooting.
The intermittent occurrence of the serious-lag problem shows that it's not a matter of the phone being underpowered or overloaded. There's some specific bug that needs to be fixed.
UPDATE: It just happened for a fourth time. And when the serious-lag mode starts, it's not just typing that has a delay with audio feedback. The feedback delay also occurs when I tap on icons, tap on the Back or Recent-apps soft-buttons, etc. There's a delay of up to a second or two between tapping and hearing the feedback.
On the other hand, compute-intensive tasks--such as playing streaming video--work properly even when the phone is in serious-lag mode. So that's further evidence that there is some specific bug, and not a general problem of being underpowered or overloaded.
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Curious, do these typing lags occur on the hangouts app?!?! It seems to be the ONLY app on my Note 5 (and all the other phones I've used) that has a VERY NOTICEABLE KEYBOARD LAG, especially with Samsung Stock keyboard. This happens even with other keyboards, but is WORST with samsung keyboard.....
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Curious, do these typing lags occur on the hangouts app?!?! It seems to be the ONLY app on my Note 5 (and all the other phones I've used) that has a VERY NOTICEABLE KEYBOARD LAG, especially with Samsung Stock keyboard. This happens even with other keyboards, but is WORST with samsung keyboard.....
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No, the problem I'm seeing is unrelated to any app or keyboard. When my phone is in serious-lag mode, the problem occurs across the board. When it's not in lag-mode (which it usually isn't), then there's no lag in any app, including Hangouts.
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No, the problem I'm seeing is unrelated to any app or keyboard. When my phone is in serious-lag mode, the problem occurs across the board. When it's not in lag-mode (which it usually isn't), then there's no lag in any app, including Hangouts.
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Hmmm.....interesting....I use the app os monitor to show which processes are running at high cpu %. Perhaps that can shed some light on your lag issue?
quordandis said:
Hmmm.....interesting....I use the app os monitor to show which processes are running at high cpu %. Perhaps that can shed some light on your lag issue?
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It happens even with all apps closed, no heat, no battery drain. It's not a side-effect of the phone being bogged down with anything.
I've been using my galaxy s8 (G950U) for about two weeks now. I feel like I've been ripped off. This thing gets warm just from streaming music via Pandora. Geekbench scores are better on both my Exynos s7 edge and my old note 5. Then there's the USB C audio lag. As soon as I plugged in usb c headphones, my s8 basically froze to the point of unusable. Anyone else having these problems or did I just happen to pick up a bad phone?
Havent noticed any of your issues.
I haven't tried USB-C headphones, but I am actually very satisfied with my phone apart from the battery. It's fast, responsive, handles everything I throw at it. Don't rely too much on benchmarks, it doesn't always represent the day to day use.
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Haven't had it as long as you but i'm on day 4 and so far so good. Hopefully it stays that way.
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I've been using my galaxy s8 (G950U) for about two weeks now. I feel like I've been ripped off. This thing gets warm just from streaming music via Pandora. Geekbench scores are better on both my Exynos s7 edge and my old note 5. Then there's the USB C audio lag. As soon as I plugged in usb c headphones, my s8 basically froze to the point of unusable. Anyone else having these problems or did I just happen to pick up a bad phone?
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I had an AT&T version and now an Exynos UK version. Both are incredibly responsive the latter more so. I spent hours yesterday with my phone connected to SideSync configuring it. Not a stutter or stall in anything I did. I can see how an S8 via Dex can emulate a PC. Your issues seem like a one-off. Most likely due to some combination of apps you have installed, something you've disabled or frozen, or a utility run amok (EG: Bixby re-mapper). Do you use SmartSwitch? Some apps don't like to be restored vs. installed fresh. As for USB-C I used it all day yesterday connected to a USB 3.0 port on my PC and regularly to connect my phone to Android Auto. The phone's performance never changed.
Here's how I configure my U.S. phones (it's not necessary on imports):
From a fresh restore from recovery I skip signing in to my Google and Samsung accounts.
I uninstall or disable all the carrier junk and any other apps I won't use.
I don't disable Samsung core apps because they're interdependent and can create problems and battery drain when they look for each other and they aren't there.
I sign in to my Samsung account and disable the syncs I don't use and then update all my pre-installed Samsung apps and download optional ones I use.
I sign in to my Google account and disable the syncs I don't use and quickly disable auto-update in the Play Store so I can control what's installed or updated.
Only after all my apps are in place do I start to play with the settings.
I backed up my AT&T S8+ to Samsung Cloud and only restored my apps, music, photos, documents, phone logs, and MMS history. Moving settings over is a crap shoot if something from the old phone incorrectly overlays something on the new phone. It's more time consuming to do it this way but (knock on wood) I've never had battery drain issues or any other funkiness with a new phone and I go through many. Good luck.
No problem
No problem here, really good performances overall.
Mine runs really well too. Very happy customer
Everything is ok here.. very fast
I have similar experience. My exynos S7E is way faster than this Snapdragon S8. Though I did get the UFS 2.0 version. Probably going to sell it and pick up another exynos.
Mine runs as slow as my galaxy s1...
I'm satisfied with mine. It's a beauty inside and outside ?
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I had an AT&T version and now an Exynos UK version. Both are incredibly responsive the latter more so. I spent hours yesterday with my phone connected to SideSync configuring it. Not a stutter or stall in anything I did. I can see how an S8 via Dex can emulate a PC. Your issues seem like a one-off. Most likely due to some combination of apps you have installed, something you've disabled or frozen, or a utility run amok (EG: Bixby re-mapper). Do you use SmartSwitch? Some apps don't like to be restored vs. installed fresh. As for USB-C I used it all day yesterday connected to a USB 3.0 port on my PC and regularly to connect my phone to Android Auto. The phone's performance never changed.
Here's how I configure my U.S. phones (it's not necessary on imports):
From a fresh restore from recovery I skip signing in to my Google and Samsung accounts.
I uninstall or disable all the carrier junk and any other apps I won't use.
I don't disable Samsung core apps because they're interdependent and can create problems and battery drain when they look for each other and they aren't there.
I sign in to my Samsung account and disable the syncs I don't use and then update all my pre-installed Samsung apps and download optional ones I use.
I sign in to my Google account and disable the syncs I don't use and quickly disable auto-update in the Play Store so I can control what's installed or updated.
Only after all my apps are in place do I start to play with the settings.
I backed up my AT&T S8+ to Samsung Cloud and only restored my apps, music, photos, documents, phone logs, and MMS history. Moving settings over is a crap shoot if something from the old phone incorrectly overlays something on the new phone. It's more time consuming to do it this way but (knock on wood) I've never had battery drain issues or any other funkiness with a new phone and I go through many. Good luck.
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I only have the AT&T bloatware installed. I also transferred the same apps from my s7 edge to my s8, so I doubt it's any extra apps I installed. Could me having a UFS 2.0 have an effect?
Coming from a Google Pixel, I'd say animations and general smoothness/responsiveness are definitely not up there.
It's not slower, it's just jerkier. I wish Samsung gave the same attention to software polishing as it does with hardware.
it's the bixby button remapper apps
mine was fine, then i installed one of those. then the phone was so sluggish and jerky when scrolling
disabled the remapper, and it's buttery smooth again
lawrence750 said:
it's the bixby button remapper apps
mine was fine, then i installed one of those. then the phone was so sluggish and jerky when scrolling
disabled the remapper, and it's buttery smooth again
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I actually never installed those remapper apps though...
darkdragonz said:
I actually never installed those remapper apps though...
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it must be something you have installed.
do you have any other apps showing in settings>accessibility>services?
Mine is smooth and fast. I disabled the bixby apk's, but only so I didn't accidentally hit the bixby button, not because there was lag or anything. I turn off all animations/etc in developer settings on all my phones since the animations seem pointless. Fastest phone I have had to date, with the Note 7 right there with it. The s7E also very fast. Now going back to my Note 4 - BIG difference in speed, the Note 4 felt sluggish as any 3 year old phone would in comparison.
Very smooth. As fast as iPhone 7 I have.
Try Factory Reset
Phone is awesomely quick even on power saving mode.
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I only have the AT&T bloatware installed. I also transferred the same apps from my s7 edge to my s8, so I doubt it's any extra apps I installed. Could me having a UFS 2.0 have an effect?
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I think this is your problem: some people reported issues when transferring programs and settings from one device to another using smart switch and claim all was well after resetting and installing everything fresh. I can't confirm it, since I didn't transfer anything from my old phone except phone book, but then I don't have any issues either.
Hey all,
So I've had my S8 since launch and I've enjoyed it but I have an issue that I've been trying to pinpoint the cause of for a few weeks now. At a high level, if I reboot the phone in the morning, I can use it all day as I wish and it works perfectly, no slowdown anywhere and good battery life. I plug the phone in at night when I go to sleep and when I wake up I start using it again. Either right after I wake up or over the course of a few hours the phone begins to slow down with things like notification shade/app switcher crawling until I either a) reboot or b) change display resolution. Doing either of these "fixes" it until the next night and then again when I wake up I have the same issues.
I've been trying to figure out what's causing this. I've tried disabling features, uninstalling apps, etc.
One thing I have found is that when I'm having this problem if I force close 'System UI' in App Manager (this is just restarting that process since you can't kill it really) the smoothness comes back but it doesn't last as long as when I either reboot or change resolution.
My theory is that something is conflicting with the Android UI and over time it's causing it to slow down. Rebooting or changing display resolution restarts the Android UI so essentially same thing.
My first question is has anyone seen this behavior where the notification shade/app switcher (native UI not apps) slow down? I know there's at least some people on Reddit with same issue. If you have this issue does FC'ing System UI 'fix' it for you temporarily?
I'm trying to figure out what is running on my phone while I'm sleeping at night which is obviously causing this. Any ideas would be helpful. Oh also when I wake up and I go into app switcher it only shows like 3 cards where before I go to bed it would be like 10+ so something is killing apps at night too. I turned off Google backup for today and will reboot before tonight to see if maybe that's it.
Appreciate your help.
Thanks.
I've had my S8+ since the launch weekend on ATT, always connected to my Gear S3, and connected to my Misfit Ray. I've not noticed any slowdown of the UI. My AOD clock is slow to show the hands if the screen is off when I use the numerical clock AOD, but nothing else observed.
I would guess you've installed (or haven't uninstalled/disabled) some apps that are using a lot of background processes. I removed/disabled the few ATT apps on the device except Call Protect, and I don't use Gmail (resource hog). I actually use very few Google apps, they're just not very well coded, it seems (maybe a "goof off" day every week isn't such a great policy?)
In settings, go to Device maintenance, click on battery, and see if anything strange is going on there under App power monitor.
I've NEVER liked Samsung phones, and I've NEVER been interested in owning one, but I saw the Galaxy Gear S3 and fell in love, and truthfully, I bought the phone as an accessory to the watch, so I'm not an apologist for any shortcomings.
Instead of restarting, go to settings/device maintenance, what's the percentage here? go to optimize, does it help? which apps use the battery most? How much RAM is available. If nothing shows up, you probably would need something like wakelock detector (it needs root) to trace apps usage, especially at night. Also you could try to force stop other apps and see which one is interfering? For example phone is slow, force stop first 10 apps, if not fixed force stop next 10, if fixed, next time force stop one at the time from that batch of tens.
Mines just started doing this the other day. I think I have an idea if the problem, I'm just trying to find proof at this point. I recently downloaded this all to let me see the upload/download speeds if my network in the notification bar. It lets you set the refresh rate, to which I set it to 2 seconds, which I knew regardless would tax my system, I just didn't expect my ui to slow to a crawl.
Delete any Bixby remapping app as well, known to cause many issues including unpredictable lag.
Ever since I updated to the Pie beta, my phone has been aggressively closing apps and games the moment I switch to another app, sometimes even when I just go back to my desktop. I've turned off battery optimization, 'cause who needs that sh*t anyway, and it still does it. I don't have that "immediate kill" option enabled in development settings, either. So why is it doing this?
Not a single answer, even after 5 months?
Hello?