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InDashNet Android 5.1 Head Unit Octa Core, 15 seconds booting time

InDashNet released a video on its youtube channel showing the booting time of the new Octa Core Head Units with Android 5.1 (mybe 5.1.1 but in its Google Plus the version its not specific beyond "5.1")
the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCodlTmwQjw
the google plus community:
https://plus.google.com/communities/115500164891031633970

Are there any owners of InDashNet Head Units here on xda? it doesnt mtter if its from the old units or te newe Octa Cores, just want to know your thoughts bouts yhis manufacturer and its Head Units
Thanks in advance

rubenjavier said:
Are there any owners of InDashNet Head Units here on xda? it doesnt mtter if its from the old units or te newe Octa Cores, just want to know your thoughts bouts yhis manufacturer and its Head Units
Thanks in advance
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It seems like they started as a "kickstarter" project, and later became a company...
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/indashnet-android-online-car-in-dash-system#/

staticx1 said:
It seems like they started as a "kickstarter" project, and later became a company...
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/indashnet-android-online-car-in-dash-system#/
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yes, looking for info I saw that Indiegogo campaign for dualcore units, and they created a second campaign to manufacture the new Octa Core Units:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/indashnet-world-s-first-open-source-infotainment#/
They even released the 4.4.4 android code on git:
https://github.com/indashnet/InDashNet.Open.UN2000
I hope they will release the lollipop source too
The units seems to be using a Allwinner A83T Octa Core CPU with a PowerVR SGX 544MP GPU and GB of RAM
Im tryin to find someone who actually have a unit or seen one working to have some reference beyond 15secs boot video, an opensource unit (the android part, not the MCU as far as I can see) would be great (ctually since I cant find anyone with this units, I dont know anything about its MCU, o what does it uses for that purpose)
If anyone knows something,
please comment
Thanks in advance

I have a unit you can contact me.
Great Sound, Great Mic and Great Speed.

caNo03 said:
I have a unit you can contact me.
Great Sound, Great Mic and Great Speed.
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Thanks for the input caNo03!
.-wich version you have? dual core or octa core? (Im guessing octa, since you said it has great speed)
.-you said the mic is also great (other units are usually bad at this) you refer to the embedded mic, or it has a secondary mic that you can place somewhere else? or both? (usually android units have a lot of noise with a secondary mic overlaping with the embedded one)
.-how about Buetooth? the contacts are shared from the phone like a regular radio with BT? or it can use the contacts from your android account? good sound incall?
.-can you use voice commands o call? or steering wheels controls to call, see contacts to call, answers calls?
(as part of the previous question, do you have a CAN BUS working model?, if you do, what vehicle you have?, what features of the CAN BUS have you tested?, steering wheel controls for music and radio?, reverse camera? parking sensors?)
.-what about A2DP? when you stream music from your mobile using bluetooth, the tracks have its info and artwork(AVRCP 1.6)? or just the track info in text(AVRCP 1.5)?, can you play FLAC music files over A2DP?
.-can you change the boot animation from a manu?, select a car brand symbol or something?
.-can you set how long the unit stay in sleep mode when you turn off the car?
sorry, I know its a lot of questions, but there is so few info on the web
Thanks in advance
Best regards

There's basically 0 info on the web. Have you tried emailing Thomas (the owner of the company) these questions? I would love to see a little more information about them on the forum, perhaps some resources and tips.
I have an octa-core unit in the box still, hopefully installing it this week.

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There's basically 0 info on the web. Have you tried emailing Thomas (the owner of the company) these questions? I would love to see a little more information about them on the forum, perhaps some resources and tips.
I have an octa-core unit in the box still, hopefully installing it this week.
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Im trying to get more info from thomas, I think that with the lollipop source a great community can grow, as soon as I get more info from them, I will be posting it.
If you can check some of the doubts I posted when you install it, please share it
little by little we can create a good amount of info and resources
Thanks again

Ownice Android 6.0 Cortex-A53 MT3562 8Core

I have seen new Android 6.0 units with 4G built in. Both from Ownice. But none with Intel SoC. One witch MT3562 Octa Core, ARM Cortex-A53, 1.5-1.8GHz (which Brand? Mediatek, Autochips or other ? ) http://www.ownice.com/Pro_Auto DVD GPS Navigation for 2din Universal_405.html
And on AliExpress the Android 6.0 only have a Quadcore Cortex-A53, 1.3-1.6GHz.
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/Owni..._1&btsid=a03fbe69-3548-4524-a414-3181e4069883
Have a Octacore A53 more Performance like the Intel ???
Knows anyone anything about the Processor manufactor ???
best regards
Stephan

MT = MediaTek
A53 is a pretty weak core. Better than those crappy rockchip, but won't be anything close to the intel.

Yes i think A53 is a good choice. Its a 64 bit CPU.
But MediaTek has no MT3562 CPU !!!

anyone order this? i have not seen anyone with a 6.0 device yet

I will wait for the Octa core from Ownice. Andi1203 http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=601422 has the new Pumpkin with 6.0 and is happy with this.

Is there any benchmarks on the A53 vs Intel vs the T3 Quad core? I'm so lost at all these HU's is there a WIKI readers digest of all the **** going on with these HU's

I think the new 2GB intel joying with 5.1.1 makes 21000 points at antutu. In the Joying Thread has anywhere make this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69640816&postcount=48
But another one had 24000 with Joying RK3188 1GB
I Think that the intel Atom wasent a good idea. i have it in my dual OS tablet and it is slow at 3GB RAM.

Stephan_R said:
I have seen new Android 6.0 units with 4G built in. Both from Ownice. But none with Intel SoC. One witch MT3562 Octa Core, ARM Cortex-A53, 1.5-1.8GHz (which Brand? Mediatek, Autochips or other ? ) http://www.ownice.com/Pro_Auto DVD GPS Navigation for 2din Universal_405.html
And on AliExpress the Android 6.0 only have a Quadcore Cortex-A53, 1.3-1.6GHz.
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/Owni..._1&btsid=a03fbe69-3548-4524-a414-3181e4069883
Have a Octacore A53 more Performance like the Intel ???
Knows anyone anything about the Processor manufactor ???
best regards
Stephan
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This forum is for MTCD units, so why are you posting in it when the post is about Ownice units ? !

typos1 said:
This forum is for MTCD units, so why are you posting in it when the post is about Ownice units ? !
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Ownice is manufactor. Is mtcd a manufactor?
Ok i have forget to ask in the first thred, is it a mtcd device ???
Anybody knows it ???
Do you know it ????
How can i get information if i doesent know where are the right place !!!

Stephan_R said:
Ownice is manufactor. Is mtcd a manufactor?
Ok i have forget to ask in the first thred, is it a mtcd device ???
Anybody knows it ???
Do you know it ????
How can i get information if i doesent know where are the right place !!!
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Ownice threads are in the Android Auto General section.
MTC is the developer of all MTC units and Ownice is a manufacturer, no MTC devices have MTK processors, and if your unit is branded as "Ownice" its deffo not an MTC unit (MTCD is a type of MTC unit).

Stephan_R said:
Ownice is manufactor. Is mtcd a manufactor?
Ok i have forget to ask in the first thred, is it a mtcd device ???
Anybody knows it ???
Do you know it ????
How can i get information if i doesent know where are the right place !!!
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System Settings --> About.
But more generally, ALL current MTC devices will either have a Rockchip RK3188 SoC, or an Intel SoFia x3-C3230RK.
No MediaTek. So this Ownice is definitely NOT an MTC.
MTC is the not so much the manufacturer (although I think that they do manufacture some), but mainly the designer of the MTC devices (i.e., schematics and firmware). About a dozen different manufacturers build their designs.

doitright said:
MTC is the not so much the manufacturer (although I think that they do manufacture some), but mainly the designer of the MTC devices (i.e., schematics and firmware). About a dozen different manufacturers build their designs.
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Sorry, youre right, as I said somewhere else today, MTC is the developer not the manufacturer - post edited.

But i dont have this system to look at system settings. Thats the reason for many of the questions !!!
Nobody has anywhere make specific information about all the new systems.
Ownice has no Mediatek !!!! This Number of CPU is unknown at Mediatek. Nobody know whats really inside !!!

Stephan_R said:
But i dont have this system to look at system settings. Thats the reason for many of the questions !!!
Nobody has anywhere make specific information about all the new systems.
Ownice has no Mediatek !!!! This Number of CPU is unknown at Mediatek. Nobody know whats really inside !!!
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Theyre deffo NOT MTC, so no MTC ROMs will work on it as Ownice is in the title they are Ownice units.
Ask the seller for a pic of the settings/about device screen, or Ownice if they make any MTK devices.
Both links you gave say the devices are MT processors, one would assume they mean "MTK" ie Mediatek.

Stephan_R said:
But i dont have this system to look at system settings. Thats the reason for many of the questions !!!
Nobody has anywhere make specific information about all the new systems.
Ownice has no Mediatek !!!! This Number of CPU is unknown at Mediatek. Nobody know whats really inside !!!
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It'll probably be an MT6753 with a little bit of dyslexia and too much drugs built in.
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Sorry, youre right, as I said somewhere else today, MTC is the developer not the manufacturer - post edited.
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I don't think your reply was actually in there yet when I hit the submit button.

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It'll probably be an MT6753 with a little bit of dyslexia and too much drugs built in.
I don't think your reply was actually in there yet when I hit the submit button.
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Fair enough, I did put manufacturer though
AFAIK MediaTek is usually abbreviated to "MTK".

typos1 said:
Fair enough, I did put manufacturer though
AFAIK MediaTek is usually abbreviated to "MTK".
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Perhaps as a manufacturer, but their SoC's ***part numbers*** follow the MTxxxx pattern;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaTek#Hexa-core.2C_octa-core_and_deca-core

This is a bit of a necro post, but I'm researching this stuff right now. From what I read, the clock speeds listed on the Ownice site make it seem more like an MT6752. Either way, the benchmarks seem to be a lot faster than the Sofia.

Stephan_R said:
But i dont have this system to look at system settings. Thats the reason for many of the questions !!!
Nobody has anywhere make specific information about all the new systems.
Ownice has no Mediatek !!!! This Number of CPU is unknown at Mediatek. Nobody know whats really inside !!!
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Ownice (Ow!Nice!) is a manufacturer's (WinLink Technology Limited.) brand. Ownice c200 has Rockchip SoC. C300 has AC 83xx (MediaTek - AutoChips) SoC. etc.
Ownice c300 and Maisun MT 9932 has same SoC and firmware. The only big difference is MainUI. You can flash both firmware to each other.

mrtnb said:
Ownice (Ow!Nice!) is a manufacturer's (WinLink Technology Limited.) brand. Ownice c200 has Rockchip SoC. C300 has AC 83xx (MediaTek - AutoChips) SoC. etc.
Ownice c300 and Maisun MT 9932 has same SoC and firmware. The only big difference is MainUI. You can flash both firmware to each other.
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What's in the C500?

Android Head Unit Advice

Hi all,
I've been looking to upgrade the head unit in my car. I came across Android HUs on eBay.
This seems to be the best one on eBay to my (very limited) knowledge:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Android-7...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Are they any good? I have also seen them on Alibaba/Aliexpress. Are they all the same or are certain ones better? Prices can vary wildly.
If someone could point me in the right direction for the best quality HU I'd be very grateful!

That a px3 new modle with 2gig ram so yes it good but i would go for px5 chip if possible as it an 8 core both have great support on here malesky rom is excellent i personally wouldn't go for intel sofia as there slightly less support but that can change there some and root from what i read but no custom rom i could be wrong this is just my opinion
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...rom-malaysk-roms-mtcd-device-t3598908/page211
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The download link is on first page of his page v5 is his latest https://yadi.sk/d/ouDv5oAo3Mh7M5 this his link to v5 it says download limit reached but all you do is just make an account then save to your yandisk acount then you can download

chris4507 said:
That a px3 new modle with 2gig ram so yes it good but i would go for px5 chip if possible as it an 8 core both have great support on here malesky rom is excellent i personally wouldn't go for intel sofia as there slightly less support but that can change there some and root from what i read but no custom rom i could be wrong this is just my opinion
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The download link is on first page of his page v5 is his latest https://yadi.sk/d/ouDv5oAo3Mh7M5 this his link to v5 it says download limit reached but all you do is just make an account then save to your yandisk acount then you can download
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Less support? You should SEE what they're doing on the joying forum.... They've got the whole MCU protocol reverse engineered, and have the things running on the base AOSP (i.e., without all the chinese trash applications installed).

luciusfox said:
Less support? You should SEE what they're doing on the joying forum.... They've got the whole MCU protocol reverse engineered, and have the things running on the base AOSP (i.e., without all the chinese trash applications installed).
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Well that changes alot as i said i could be wrong lol you have to admit it is hard navigating throu these forums we could do with having them all cleaned up put into sections px5 px3 intel ..... Like the mobile section if you get me but anyway thanks for the info that may well be the next for me so do you think intel sofia ones better that px5 ?

So this is confusing me even more lol.
I've found the PX-5 unit which @chris4507 mentioned. Seems expensive but I'm willing to pay more for a piece of mind:
https://www.seicane.com/oem-2-din-2...nk-obd2-3g-wifi-backup-camera-canbus-s127000e
Can't find anything that mentions Joying? I'm not sure what that is...

mikem1989 said:
So this is confusing me even more lol.
I've found the PX-5 unit which @chris4507 mentioned. Seems expensive but I'm willing to pay more for a piece of mind:
https://www.seicane.com/oem-2-din-2...nk-obd2-3g-wifi-backup-camera-canbus-s127000e
Can't find anything that mentions Joying? I'm not sure what that is...
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2GB RAM Octa Core Android 6.0 Car DVD GPS Navigation Multimedia Player Car Stereo for Fiat BRAVO 2007-2012 Radio Headunit
http://s.aliexpress.com/eiArENfu
(from AliExpress Android) theres this for fiat bravo anno there bit more expensive but px3 4 core px5 8 but up to you i dont know much about intel sofia and apparently there is support out there for them i.e custom roms so someone else who know will have to inform you which is better px5 or sofia but can garentee px5 better than px3

chris4507 said:
2GB RAM Octa Core Android 6.0 Car DVD GPS Navigation Multimedia Player Car Stereo for Fiat BRAVO 2007-2012 Radio Headunit
http://s.aliexpress.com/eiArENfu
(from AliExpress Android) theres this for fiat bravo anno there bit more expensive but px3 4 core px5 8 but up to you i dont know much about intel sofia and apparently there is support out there for them i.e custom roms so someone else who know will have to inform you which is better px5 or sofia but can garentee px5 better than px3
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I may go for the PX5. It seems to be well supported. The Chinese Android head units do seem a bit of a gamble but have great potential.
I do agree with you that this forum should have more subsections, which would make it easier to navigate/ find the information I'm looking for.

mikem1989 said:
So this is confusing me even more lol.
I've found the PX-5 unit which @chris4507 mentioned. Seems expensive but I'm willing to pay more for a piece of mind:
https://www.seicane.com/oem-2-din-2...nk-obd2-3g-wifi-backup-camera-canbus-s127000e
Can't find anything that mentions Joying? I'm not sure what that is...
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Just to be a prick... http://bfy.tw/EU5z

luciusfox said:
Just to be a prick... http://bfy.tw/EU5z
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Cheers mate...
I thought googling joying would yield similar pointless results as when I google PX5 (try it and see what comes up).
Been new to this, I actually thought 'joying' was a CPU name like PX5 is. I was keeping an eye out for joying in the specs.

luciusfox said:
Just to be a prick... http://bfy.tw/EU5z
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How did you do that btw?
We all enjoy being a prick. I want to do one for when people ask stupid questions on FB, like "What time does the Asda down the road close?"

mikem1989 said:
How did you do that btw?
We all enjoy being a prick. I want to do one for when people ask stupid questions on FB, like "What time does the Asda down the road close?"
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Literally search Google for let me Google that for you.
Or visit here.
Which is lmgtfy =
Let
Me
Google
That
For
You

luciusfox said:
Less support? You should SEE what they're doing on the joying forum.... They've got the whole MCU protocol reverse engineered, and have the things running on the base AOSP (i.e., without all the chinese trash applications installed).
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...disabled on xda, he sure does claim alot. Context is the JY sofia unit, which may or may not use the same protocol as MTCx.
For OP, read before you buy and understand what you are buying; do you need to rush.
These px3/px5 and sofia (except sofia jy) are all common reference units with many resellers and only a few manufacturers. They call work from a common reference design (MTCD being the latest) with a few minor variations - such as amp IC.
Beat you to it @typos1

marchnz said:
...disabled on xda, he sure does claim alot. Context is the JY sofia unit, which may or may not use the same protocol as MTCx.
For OP, read before you buy and understand what you are buying; do you need to rush.
These px3/px5 and sofia (except sofia jy) are all common reference units with many resellers and only a few manufacturers. They call work from a common reference design (MTCD being the latest) with a few minor variations - such as amp IC.
Beat you to it @typos1
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You say that as if you don't believe a word of it, which is a pretty curious position for anyone to take when there is actual SOURCE CODE being provided. So you don't believe it? Maybe you should actually try it out. Check out the source code, build it, install it.
There are actually two main competing "sources". One is, as you mention, MTC, the other is FYT. Joying was initially reselling MTC units being built by Joyous (confusing?), buy they switched to SYU, which was manufacturing units based on the FYT SoM (specifically, FYT5009, and later they switched to FYT6021 which is basically the same, but has a different physical interface). Shortly after, FYT acquired SYU.
One of the big advantages to the FYT/SYU design is that there is a whole lot LESS dependency on the MCU. For example, you can search through the MTC forums and will find reference to a hardware modification to disconnect the i2c lines controlling the BD37xxx sound processor from the MCU and attach it to the SoC. This modification is entirely redundant on the FYT/SYU units, because the BD37xxx is built into the SoM rather than being added on later to the mainboard through the MCU. So right off the bat, it is a heck of a lot easier to manage the FYT units than the MTC units.
The MCU on the FYT designs is responsible for these functions;
1) AMFM radio,
2) GPIO, which basically means the binary car i/o signals; ACC, headlights, reverse, e-brake, amp power (out), antenna power (out). And on top of that, it has two analog inputs for 2-channel steering wheel interfaces.
And guess what? Everything else is directly controllable.
So you're absolutely right that the work being done for the joying units (FYT) is not in any way applicable to the MTC units. You can take that to mean that nobody with an MTC will be able to benefit from it, which means that they remain restricted by the broken software being distributed by the chinese manufacturers, whereas somebody who buys a Joying unit will have the freedom to CHOOSE if they want to use the broken chinese firmware, or try out the much LESS broken open source firmware, and contribute to that firmware if they like.
There are also plans to bring Android 8 to the Joying units.
Now one other consideration for the joying/fyt units; since the job of the MCU is so radically simplified compared to the MTC units, there is also a reasonable prospect of somebody one day deciding to build an open source MCU firmware for them. Its not like these MCU's are super secret chips that nobody can program anything for. The biggest part of that job will just be in writing the driver for working the AMFM radio, and AMFM radios really aren't all that complex. In the past, there have been hacker modifications for the MTC MCU firmware, but very restricted in scope due to the heap of bad code. Basically, the reverse engineering effort was insurmountable. With the MCU for the FYT, the only reverse engineering that is actually needed is restricted to simply tracing the circuit, then it can simply be written from scratch. Remember, its just AMFM radio and GPIO's.

luciusfox said:
You say that as if you don't believe a word of it, which is a pretty curious position for anyone to take when there is actual SOURCE CODE being provided. So you don't believe it? Maybe you should actually try it out. Check out the source code, build it, install it.
There are actually two main competing "sources". One is, as you mention, MTC, the other is FYT. Joying was initially reselling MTC units being built by Joyous (confusing?), buy they switched to SYU, which was manufacturing units based on the FYT SoM (specifically, FYT5009, and later they switched to FYT6021 which is basically the same, but has a different physical interface). Shortly after, FYT acquired SYU.
One of the big advantages to the FYT/SYU design is that there is a whole lot LESS dependency on the MCU. For example, you can search through the MTC forums and will find reference to a hardware modification to disconnect the i2c lines controlling the BD37xxx sound processor from the MCU and attach it to the SoC. This modification is entirely redundant on the FYT/SYU units, because the BD37xxx is built into the SoM rather than being added on later to the mainboard through the MCU. So right off the bat, it is a heck of a lot easier to manage the FYT units than the MTC units.
The MCU on the FYT designs is responsible for these functions;
1) AMFM radio,
2) GPIO, which basically means the binary car i/o signals; ACC, headlights, reverse, e-brake, amp power (out), antenna power (out). And on top of that, it has two analog inputs for 2-channel steering wheel interfaces.
And guess what? Everything else is directly controllable.
So you're absolutely right that the work being done for the joying units (FYT) is not in any way applicable to the MTC units. You can take that to mean that nobody with an MTC will be able to benefit from it, which means that they remain restricted by the broken software being distributed by the chinese manufacturers, whereas somebody who buys a Joying unit will have the freedom to CHOOSE if they want to use the broken chinese firmware, or try out the much LESS broken open source firmware, and contribute to that firmware if they like.
There are also plans to bring Android 8 to the Joying units.
Now one other consideration for the joying/fyt units; since the job of the MCU is so radically simplified compared to the MTC units, there is also a reasonable prospect of somebody one day deciding to build an open source MCU firmware for them. Its not like these MCU's are super secret chips that nobody can program anything for. The biggest part of that job will just be in writing the driver for working the AMFM radio, and AMFM radios really aren't all that complex. In the past, there have been hacker modifications for the MTC MCU firmware, but very restricted in scope due to the heap of bad code. Basically, the reverse engineering effort was insurmountable. With the MCU for the FYT, the only reverse engineering that is actually needed is restricted to simply tracing the circuit, then it can simply be written from scratch. Remember, its just AMFM radio and GPIO's.
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Makes sense, thanks for the thoughtful and detailed response.
Was sceptical that anything might come of it.

Basically, what I am getting from this is that I should buy a Joying unit?...
It's a shame, as I do not like the physical appearance of them. The PX5 unit visibly suits my car much better.

mikem1989 said:
Basically, what I am getting from this is that I should buy a Joying unit?...
It's a shame, as I do not like the physical appearance of them. The PX5 unit visibly suits my car much better.
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Its certainly what I would do.
As far as appearance goes, they have an "all black glass rectangle". Pretty hard to beat that visually.

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mikem1989 said:
Basically, what I am getting from this is that I should buy a Joying unit?...
It's a shame, as I do not like the physical appearance of them. The PX5 unit visibly suits my car much better.
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Feel free to correct me if Im wrong - the pros n cons of each platform:
JY (sofia FTY)
Pros:
- Android Bluetooth, better a2dp quality.
- 3G built in option
- True 3 band eq(?)
- Android control of audio (?)
- potentially AOSP on these units within an undefined timeline
Cons:
- same as MTCD in terms of software bugs/overall quality
- RDS AF issue/non-function
- small number of manufacturers
- suspect JY to drop sofia soon and move to PX5
SOM (this might be based on same reference as sofia w/built in BT?)
- Still uses MCU, albeit less functions are performed by MCU
-hardware QA
- rubbish warranty as all other chinese reseller
- rubbish reseller support as all other chinese reseller
MTCD
Pros:
- Wide support and spares.
- high update cycle, availability of mcu and android due to multiple resellers, greater probability of a vendor releasing updates based on the reference release (e.g.currently HA releasing both HA and HCT reference updates)
- Ability to upgrade SOM or replace on failure
- same boot time/sleep as JY sofia
- same features as JY sofia
- greater model/case variations
- ostensibly more devs writing custom apps/control mods
Cons:
-Awful BT implementation (i suspect a port from wince units )
- above results in terrible a2dp quality and until recently bad quality/echo phone handsfree
- same RDS AF issue
- Hardware QA
- rubbish warranty as all other chinese reseller
- rubbish reseller support as all other chinese reseller
Anything else or do I have anything wrong here?

I'm still not decided between PX3 or PX5.
Does anyone know when they are due an update? (better CPU/More RAM)
Is it a yearly thing?
If so, may just wait for the next iteration.

mikem1989 said:
I'm still not decided between PX3 or PX5.
Does anyone know when they are due an update? (better CPU/More RAM)
Is it a yearly thing?
If so, may just wait for the next iteration.
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I've read that to move GPS Navigation and music at the same time comfortably, you should have at least 2 GB and PX5, but the Intel Sofia seems to be the best one of all.
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ptolomeo said:
I've read that to move GPS Navigation and music at the same time comfortably, you should have at least 2 GB and PX5, but the Intel Sofia seems to be the best one of all.
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The Intel Sofia only seems to be available in the joying units from what I see. With the fascia I want for my car it looks like I can choose between PX3 or PX5 only.
Think I'll go PX5. Unless there are any updated models on the horizon.

Headunit comparison/recommendation

Hi guys
Looking to purchase a new Android headunit for my 2008 Mazda 3 and have narrowed my search down to the following:
Hizpo HIZPO001AU59
A9 4 Core
2gb memory
Android 7.1
Xtrons PCD76M3MA
A7 4 core
1gb memory
Android 6.0
Eonon GA8151
A7 4 Core
2gb memory
Android 6.0
Which one would you recommend out of this bunch if the prices were similar? The Hizpo looks higher spec over all but doesn't look as good ... the Xtrons looks the best but only 1gb RAM. Eonon seems to be middle of the pack ... low spec but 2gb RAM.
Comments and suggestions would be very helpful please I want to get this purchase done today if possible!
Sorry I am not allowed to post links as a new member...

Well just based on looking at this post alone, and owning a Mazdaspeed6 myself, I'm inclined towards the Eonon based on the name alone. I've researched units specified for my car and I've come across Eonon often enough that I wish there was a good unit specifically for my car.
But what are your plans for your unit? Are you looking for simple pnp? Are you looking to fully customize a sic infotainment media center?
Ultimately I think you'd want to find a unit backed by the XDA community
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Dream Reality Syndrome said:
Well just based on looking at this post alone, and owning a Mazdaspeed6 myself, I'm inclined towards the Eonon based on the name alone. I've researched units specified for my car and I've come across Eonon often enough that I wish there was a good unit specifically for my car.
But what are your plans for your unit? Are you looking for simple pnp? Are you looking to fully customize a sic infotainment media center?
Ultimately I think you'd want to find a unit backed by the XDA community
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Thanks so much for the reply ... Eonon does seem to have a good name and is much more well known than the other 2.
I'm probably a more basic user ... I'd want to use my unit mainly for GPS and Reversing camera functionality ... but it would be nice if it had good sound output also. I can't see myself putting so many apps on the device but I'd like it to be quick and reliable for years to come. Basically plug and play with minimal configuration required.

From reading other posts on here it sounds like all of these chinese "Huifei" headunits are all basically the same on the inside ... brand doesn't matter too much? In this case a higher spec unit would be better right?

Beware: a colleague have purchased a Joying HU with 1.8 Ghz proc specs (Intel Atom x3/Sofia) clearly stated on seller's page, while its only 1.2 max. This product advertising sheet (rather ****) should be double checked.

ste2002 said:
Beware: a colleague have purchased a Joying HU with 1.8 Ghz proc specs (Intel Atom x3/Sofia) clearly stated on seller's page, while its only 1.2 max. This product advertising sheet (rather ****) should be double checked.
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Strange I would've thought the Joying HUs would be quite good.
I ended up not purchasing a new headunit ... I'll wait until next year
At the last minute as my finger was hovering over the buy button I realised that the Xtrons and Hizpo HU may not support my Bose Amplifier system that is set up in my Mazdaspeed 3 ... there is a wiring modification that can be done to correct this but I'd rather have it work natively. The Eonon HU includes an adaptor that works well with the Bose system which is great!
I'll likely buy the Eonon unit next year when I'm back in the market to purchase one of these unless another good competitor arrives on the market!

Is there any custom rom for the GA8151?
Regards

Joying Intel SC9853i 4Gb vs Pumpkin 4gb Android 9.0

Hi.
I have a VW Scirocco 2010 with Dynaudio system, until now I have a Joying Intel Sofia unit, but since 2 weeks ago the unit display start to dissapear sometimes and right now if more often that the display doesn´t work.
I'm thinking in change the unit and I have seen the new Joying 4Gb and a Pumpking unit. Both manufacters said that is compatible with dynaudio system.
I would like to know which one do you think is bette and with better audio quality, because when I changed my factory radio (RCD510) to Joying intel sofia, the sound quality was much worse than the factory sound.
Joying 4/64Gb Intel SC9853i Android 8.1.0
Pumpkin 4/32 Octacore Android 9.0
Thank you very much

jose.marcos.3720 said:
Hi.
I have a VW Scirocco 2010 with Dynaudio system, until now I have a Joying Intel Sofia unit, but since 2 weeks ago the unit display start to dissapear sometimes and right now if more often that the display doesn´t work.
I'm thinking in change the unit and I have seen the new Joying 4Gb and a Pumpking unit. Both manufacters said that is compatible with dynaudio system.
I would like to know which one do you think is bette and with better audio quality, because when I changed my factory radio (RCD510) to Joying intel sofia, the sound quality was much worse than the factory sound.
Joying 4/64Gb Intel SC9853i Android 8.1.0
Pumpkin 4/32 Octacore Android 9.0
Thank you very much
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Nobody can help me?

The OEM head unit has an in-build equalizer curve (to match the Dynaudio system), the android radio has a "flat" output. That is the reason for the bad or different soud quality.
I had my Skoda Columbus Navigation device coded via VCDS to "flat" (because I have an external DSP installed) and there is no change in sound quality after my recent change to an Joying Intel device.

Any up on this topic please. We need Android 9 firmware like Malay for Joying Intel SC9853i. The reason for an aftermarket radio is for us to be able to customize as needed, but it seems that Joying firmware is too boring and a lot of bugs. Don't quote me wrong, I love Joying radio, but they need to do more with firmware updates.

Lovin' my Pumpkin : https://www.autopumpkin.com/product...t-access-function?_pos=1&_sid=ca287b8cb&_ss=r

123olasoft said:
Any up on this topic please. We need Android 9 firmware like Malay for Joying Intel SC9853i. The reason for an aftermarket radio is for us to be able to customize as needed, but it seems that Joying firmware is too boring and a lot of bugs. Don't quote me wrong, I love Joying radio, but they need to do more with firmware updates.
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Come on. It is the same for all brands. Joying is actually relatively active with their firmware upgrades compared to the rest. Since introduction in Feb 2019 we already had 6-7 firmware upgrades.
The fact that Malaysk and Hal9K are even more active with their custom roms, doesn't mean Joying is not doing a (relatively) good job.
And as such I fully agree: there are bugs in the FYT software (not Joying! Joying is like many others brands just a reseller of FYT hardware/software), and it takes way too long to solve them. But at least you sometimes get a firmware upgrade.
Malaysk/Hal9k give you more options to tweak your mtc-b/c/d/e unit, but qualitatively speaking: the units are not better or worse. All Chinese units are qualitatively worse compared to the real A-brands.
Also: How often do you get an upgrade on your phone if it is not an A-brand and a top-model of that A-brand?
You pay 300 euros/dollars for a unit, and maybe 500-1000 euros/dollars for a phone, which proabably also sell in much higher quantities increasing margin. What do you expect?

Hi surfer63,
I appreciate your comment. I just want you to know that you don't need to sound defensive here. If you read my comment good I said I love Joying radio, which is my opinion. How much we spend on radio is not what matters.
NVIDIA Shield 2015 still receives update till now just for an example. I guess you know how much it cost to get one.
I love Joying radio and will recommend it to anyone that is in the market for an Android radio.

123olasoft said:
Hi surfer63,
I appreciate your comment. I just want you to know that you don't need to sound defensive here. If you read my comment good I said I love Joying radio, which is my opinion. How much we spend on radio is not what matters.
NVIDIA Shield 2015 still receives update till now just for an example. I guess you know how much it cost to get one.
I love Joying radio and will recommend it to anyone that is in the market for an Android radio.
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I dont think you understood his post, there's nothing defensive in it. You also missed where surfer explains that Joying are a reseller of FYT, they're just a reseller of multiple manufacturers.

marchnz said:
I dont think you understood his post, there's nothing defensive in it. You also missed where surfer explains that Joying are a reseller of FYT, they're just a reseller of multiple manufacturers.
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Both of you should accept my apology.

123olasoft said:
Both of you should accept my apology.
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Not necessary at all. We all reflect our own opinions here and sometimes they are not the same, sometimes they directly clash. Sometimes we simply misunderstand each other. Most of us are not native speakers (like myself) and that sometimes can also lead to discussions going into the wrong direction.
As long as everyone shows respect to one another, that is never a problem (to me). It only sometimes takes a few more posts to get it clear.