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I followed directions on what I thought to be a battery fix, but it ended up making my battery life twice as bad. Actually it takes longer to charge now than it does to drain.
Anyone else have this happen?
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I did the same thing, but I've only charged once and I didn't time it. I haven't been timing any of my charges or discharges, but maybe give it some more time, that's kind of how stats work isn't it....usage over time? Good luck.
Today I started at 100% (not a powered off full charge though). After 2 hours of moderate use I was down to 50%. I have been charging for an hour via car charger and currently at 67%.
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Not to be a dink, but then it would appear that you didn't follow the instructions. As a result, YMMV I guess.
1. You will need to charge the phone to 100% (while the phone is off).
2. Leave charging cable plugged in.
3. Boot into recovery and wipe the battery stats (should be under Advanced).
4. Then boot into Android.
5. Then remove the charging cable.
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Give it another shot, and I would suggest that maybe it not be thought of as a "fix". Try using the wall charger as well. I only use the wall charger as I have a converter in my vehicles. Let us know how it goes!
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Not to be a dink, but then it would appear that you didn't follow the instructions. As a result, YMMV I guess.
Give it another shot, and I would suggest that maybe it not be thought of as a "fix". Try using the wall charger as well. I only use the wall charger as I have a converter in my vehicles. Let us know how it goes!
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Those are actually the directions that I followed yesterday afternoon. I didn't notice the battery life being any different after doing that initially. At the end of the day I charged my phone via wall charger for roughly 8 hours while I slept.
I was unplugged for less than two hours and watched it drop down 50%. Wifi was off, Gps also off. I was doing some web browsing and also using the xda app. I played a game for a couple of minutes.. That was it. I really should've checked the battery usage but I didn't think of it in time.
I only charged it in the car today out of necessity because of the super quick discharge. When I'm at home I only charge with the wall charger.
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I'd venture a guess that you have something else running the background. I honestly wish that I had something more for you, but I'm going to have to fold.
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I'd venture a guess that you have something else running the background. I honestly wish that I had something more for you, but I'm going to have to fold.
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I've heard others say they found facebook or twitter running in the background and that when they killed that it made a big difference in battery life. Perhaps that?
WiFi set to never turn off
I noticed this morning that WiFi had been set to never sleep, I just changed that t 15 min.
Had a full 100% charge last night did not leave on the charger, minimal use this morning down to 78%.
Let's see how the new WiFi settings works.
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I noticed this morning that WiFi had been set to never sleep, I just changed that t 15 min.
Had a full 100% charge last night did not leave on the charger, minimal use this morning down to 78%.
Let's see how the new WiFi settings works.
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that doesn't do anything unless you leave wifi on all the time, and if you do then that would be one solution to this problem.
htc_woe_is_me said:
Those are actually the directions that I followed yesterday afternoon. I didn't notice the battery life being any different after doing that initially. At the end of the day I charged my phone via wall charger for roughly 8 hours while I slept.
I was unplugged for less than two hours and watched it drop down 50%. Wifi was off, Gps also off. I was doing some web browsing and also using the xda app. I played a game for a couple of minutes.. That was it. I really should've checked the battery usage but I didn't think of it in time.
I only charged it in the car today out of necessity because of the super quick discharge. When I'm at home I only charge with the wall charger.
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I experienced the exact same issue after doing the battery thing yesterday. Tried several different kernals since then - no change: I could just about watch the battery go down. This morning I wiped and loaded SR Sense 2.5.2 and the updated stock kernal from ROM manager. We'll see how it goes...
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I experienced the exact same issue after doing the battery thing yesterday. Tried several different kernals since then - no change: I could just about watch the battery go down. This morning I wiped and loaded SR Sense 2.5.2 and the updated stock kernal from ROM manager. We'll see how it goes...
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I did this and just installed 2.5.2. I then installed the Hydra kernel and wiped battery stats when I was at 100% and the unit was off/green light. The battery has gone to crap too. Any ideas?
thats weird, i did wipe battery stats (correctly) at 11 last night. i woke up at 9:30 (lol) with 93% battery left. the phone was sleeping the whole time, but i had sync turned on and had recieved several facebook updates, txts, and emails. now im losing around 10%battery every two hours or so, and i am using the phone to send txts and emails every three to five minutes. so battery life is actually much better. after the cable is unplugged, is it necessary to let the battery die fully, then charge, or can i charge it now? (its at around 30%)
so basically, i was wondering if it is necessary to run your battery fully down after doing a wipe battery stats
I don't know what to tell you guys. Since wiping stats, my phone has been up for 36 consecutive hours with an awake time of 2:40 and the battery is at 30%.
For reference I guess....
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so basically, i was wondering if it is necessary to run your battery fully down after doing a wipe battery stats
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Great question. Anyone have any knowledge on this? I didn't let mine discharge all the way.
I do have some kind of update. I had to do a factory wipe today and since I did that my battery life has been much better.
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Has anyone else done this that can report there results?
I was about to do this but now I am skeered.
It's completely impossible for wiping your battery stats to make your battery life worse. It's a common misconception that by wiping your battery stats you somehow condition your battery. It's actually quite the opposite, because you're actually conditioning Android by wiping your stats. No matter what your battery percentage or meter says, your battery is still capable of holding a certain amount of electrical charge and your phone will not die until it's fully discharged. On the other hand it *might* make your percentage or battery meter read wrong if you either:
a. wiped your battery stats without a full bump charge (e.g. wiping your stats at 60% charge *might* make your phone think 60%=100% and as a result, you'd see huge decreases. but, you would most likely sit there with a phone showing a 1% charge for hours after it got there.)
b: didn't allow your phone to discharge fully after wiping your stats (same problem as example a, but the inverse of it)
All wiping your battery stats does is delete the file "batterystats.bin" from your /data/system folder. This file is recreated when you boot your phone after wiping them. It keeps the data on what's using your battery for when you click "battery use" in the settings menu. It's also thought to hold the stats that tell you phone what a full charge and no charge feels like and that if you fully bump charge your phone, wipe that battery stats, and then full discharge your phone (without interrupting it by switching ROMs or doing updates) that you will have a more accurate battery meter. It won't eliminate the need to bump charge your phone or make your battery life better. It will just be perceived as better since you won't get 20% drops in your reading in 30 minutes due to a badly calibrated batterystats.bin file. Also, you'll feel better because instead of looking at a 50% reading, you'll be looking at 60%.
Your battery still has the same capacity, charges to the same level, and discharges in the same amount of time. The only thing that can change those things are usage levels.
so should i redo my wipe battery stats then? when i originally did it, i ran it down to around 40%, then rebooted, then i plugged it in around 15%. would this mess it up then?
vantagejuan said:
It's completely impossible for wiping your battery stats to make your battery life worse. It's a common misconception that by wiping your battery stats you somehow condition your battery. It's actually quite the opposite, because you're actually conditioning Android by wiping your stats. No matter what your battery percentage or meter says, your battery is still capable of holding a certain amount of electrical charge and your phone will not die until it's fully discharged. On the other hand it *might* make your percentage or battery meter read wrong if you either:
a. wiped your battery stats without a full bump charge (e.g. wiping your stats at 60% charge *might* make your phone think 60%=100% and as a result, you'd see huge decreases. but, you would most likely sit there with a phone showing a 1% charge for hours after it got there.)
b: didn't allow your phone to discharge fully after wiping your stats (same problem as example a, but the inverse of it)
All wiping your battery stats does is delete the file "batterystats.bin" from your /data/system folder. This file is recreated when you boot your phone after wiping them. It keeps the data on what's using your battery for when you click "battery use" in the settings menu. It's also thought to hold the stats that tell you phone what a full charge and no charge feels like and that if you fully bump charge your phone, wipe that battery stats, and then full discharge your phone (without interrupting it by switching ROMs or doing updates) that you will have a more accurate battery meter. It won't eliminate the need to bump charge your phone or make your battery life better. It will just be perceived as better since you won't get 20% drops in your reading in 30 minutes due to a badly calibrated batterystats.bin file. Also, you'll feel better because instead of looking at a 50% reading, you'll be looking at 60%.
Your battery still has the same capacity, charges to the same level, and discharges in the same amount of time. The only thing that can change those things are usage levels.
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Do you know how we can see what's inside the actual batterystats.bin file? I tried in root explorer and cannot open in no matter how I try.
i dont care what vantagejuan says, when i tried this process...and did it correctly, my battery was down to 85% within an hour..i know this because i unplugged it when i woke up for work, and i when i clocked in, it was at 85%
it was never this bad, i tried locating the file again from an old backup, but it didnt help...im hoping that like someone else said, a couple cycles through it will get better
im using the skyraider 2.5.2 vanilla with the hydra oc/uv kernal
i had this setup before AND after trying the battery fix and im using the seidio 1750...
frustrations are back from when i first got the phone
When my phone is fully charged or has 70 or 60% remaining battery it seems to drain as normal, around 2-5% over a 10 hour or so period...
However, I've noticed once the battery decreases below 50% it drains FAST, why?
Anyone else noticed this? Test it for yourselves, monitor the TIME it takes to decrease from 100 to 50% and then from 50% to 0.
Yesterday I forgot my phone in the car whilst going to work. It was turned on however it was sitting all day in the car.
Once I returned from work I was shocked to find the phone would not turn on.
At first I thought there was a problem or some kind of fault. Once I plugged in the charger it started to charge, the battery cut and the phone automatically turned off!
I remember the phone had around 48% battery remaining, no wifi or 3g or data turned on. It was simply idling...
So the question is HOW can the battery drain from 48% to 0% over a 10 hour period without being used???
Should my battery of been ANYTHING over 50% it would only lose a few percent...
Same thing for me. (Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 - stock Android 2.3.6)
Battery slowly decreases from 100% to ~50% and then ~2x faster.
I charged the note on my computer and then switched to the charger (at ~60% of charge).
I'm no expert of battery charging etc. but just remembered my iPhone 3GS discharging faster when charged on the computer than with the charger.
If it's the same for the note, some cells could discharge faster because charged on the computer.
Can someone confirm this (or not) ?
How did you charge your phone ?
boubou2k said:
Same thing for me. (Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 - stock Android 2.3.6)
Battery slowly decreases from 100% to ~50% and then ~2x faster.
I charged the note on my computer and then switched to the charger (at ~60% of charge).
I'm no expert of battery charging etc. but just remembered my iPhone 3GS discharging faster when charged on the computer than with the charger.
If it's the same for the note, some cells could discharge faster because charged on the computer.
Can someone confirm this (or not) ?
How did you charge your phone ?
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Same thing happnd with me, and charging my phone thru electric charger..
So it seems this behaviour happens to several other Note users, why?
It's a problem knowing that having around 50% left in your battery will struggle to make it through the day with little to no use...
Have you people set the wifi to turn of while the screen is off? This is unnoticeable in the daily use, but increase the batterytime massively. The setting for this is hidden, you have to push menubutton while in the wifi-settings.
Here I thought I was only imagining things about the battery life dropping faster once it has reached 49% or less.
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Here I thought I was only imagining things about the battery life dropping faster once it has reached 49% or less.
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Haha, nice to know I'm not the ONLY one facing this bug...
I can only hope Ice Cream Sandwich solves this battery drain issue.
Hmm, i think i have the same problem, but i'm not sure. Will get back to this thread when i've investigated a little bit.
This may be a typical samsung issue.
I remember when i had the spica , the battery percentage lining in kernel was totally wrong. I think its done on purpose so you would feel like you have more battery life. 75 % of the battery drains slow. And the rest 25 super fast. Can be fixed within kernel.
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I believe its just a placebo effect. Battery usage always depends on so many factors its a pain to even consider starting looking for the issue.
Being on stock KK5 not rooted, i cannot report the same. I only see "fast battery drain" at the last 4-5%. If you feel its an issue, could you post the firmware version you are on and the battery stats graph just for reference?
Placebo or not its something I can definitely feel on my Galaxy Note.
EarlZ said:
Placebo or not its something I can definitely feel on my Galaxy Note.
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When you get the chance, could you post the battery stats graph please? what we should see is a (lets say) 30 degrees angle and at about halfway it gets steeper.
I know its quite hard to demonstrate the issue, but if you lets say use wifi to browse the first 50% in text only sites and then visit youtube for the last 50%, it won't help the test.
A nice way to test it would be to charge it to 100%, then load up a long movie and repeat playing it till the battery is 2-3%. Then post the results.
roxxy said:
Have you people set the wifi to turn of while the screen is off? This is unnoticeable in the daily use, but increase the batterytime massively. The setting for this is hidden, you have to push menubutton while in the wifi-settings.
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When the Wifi is disconnected, the 3G scanning will get on. Isn't that defeating the purpose?
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Hey there!
I would suggest to load the battery 100%, plug it out, go into recovery and wipe battery stats.
I have to admit that I don´t know exactly what this workaround does, but I read about it in another forum...and it worked for me, my battery status is much more accurate now!
JulyDerek said:
When the Wifi is disconnected, the 3G scanning will get on. Isn't that defeating the purpose?
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Wifi will continue to scan for wlans near it every second or so
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I'm back. I've had the Diagnosis app running for the past hour, and i got some interesting results.
---Wiping battery stats does not help---, a full charge automatically causes battery stats reset.
I full charged mine with the electric charger after fully discharging it without turning it on.
This time i didn't notice any change in discharge speed between 100%-50% and 50%-0%.
Last time I charged the phone it was not fully discharged. Charged it from 30% to 50% then 50% to 75% on the computer, and 75% to 100% using electric charger.
It's just a supposition, but maybe doing several partial charges while using the phone makes the battery % information inaccurate (wrong battery stats?).
[Edit]In this case, wiping battery stats should show accurate battery %. [/Edit]
I had a similar problem, and I think it is to do with some incorrect scaling or measurement.
I was down to 28%, and it seemed to be draining fast even though I was not using it. I rebooted (I love how quick that is after my Arc was so slow). On restart it was at 17% ! The usage graph just did an instant drop.
I also had another occasion where it remained at 100% for 2 1/5 hours of use.
I assume some calibration issues caused the meter to read the battery wrong. I am turning off on the w/e overnight (when I do not need the alarm) to see if a slow (180 mA) charge while off will help. I may even get a decent alarm clock so I can turn the phone off at nights and charge. I spend too much time in the morning checking my email and reading news!
What is more consistent on mine is that when the battery drops to 9% or less the loss is like 1% per ~10-15% and this is with wifi/3g off, phone locked.
I'm back again. I've had some serious battery drain the last couple of days, but i noticed that Auto Sync was enabled. Once i deactivated it it got much better. Pulled the phone from the charger 9 hours ago and i'm at 90% battery left. I've sent some SMS, a few calls and that's about it, but it doesn't drain while it's in standby now, so i'm happy with it.
This is particularly true for those who are un-rooted and on Stock where wiping battery stats is not available.
I bought my N4 on 1st of Feb, and the first two charge cycles, when the phone powered off due to the OS reporting the battery at 0%, I was unable to power it back on. This is great, as the phone battery is truly empty!
Some charge cycles later, my phone would power off due to the OS reporting 0% - however, I would feel as though the battery didn't last as long as I was used to.
So to make sure the battery is truly dead... I boot into fastboot mode by pressing Volume Down and Power on straight after it shut itself down. The phone stayed on for a further 27mins, bearing in mind that in this mode, the screen is on full brightness and always on. 27mins of screen on time for a phone that manages only about 4hrs of screen on time at best, is a considerable amount of left over juice in the battery that the OS is missing out on.
Normally to correct this, we charge up to 100% and wipe battery stats in CWM.
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I have found that to leave the phone on in fastboot mode until it drains the battery out completely, plug in your charger, then boot into Android, would show the battery at 0% - this is a TRUE 0%... charge it all the way up to 100% and you should have back your full battery performance. Don't forget to allow the 99% - 100% time. This is very important - It will make it to 100% eventually, be patient.
This is all based on my assumptions/guestimates/theory - please do comment and correct if you are the wiser. [though for now, it works flawlessly]
OT - This does highlight a flaw in the OS however, it's a problem with all Android devices, will they ever fix it?
You're just calibrating the battery. I'm sure most of us already let it die without needing t enter fast boot.
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scream4cheese said:
You're just calibrating the battery. I'm sure most of us already let it die without needing t enter fast boot.
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Also, you should not drain it to such an extent. If a battery ever reaches true zero, it won't turn on again or charge. The phone turns off (says zero) around an actual 5% because they don't want you to destroy your battery
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Censura_Umbra said:
Also, you should not drain it to such an extent. If a battery ever reaches true zero, it won't turn on again or charge. The phone turns off (says zero) around an actual 5% because they don't want you to destroy your battery
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Exactly.
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Censura_Umbra said:
Also, you should not drain it to such an extent. If a battery ever reaches true zero, it won't turn on again or charge. The phone turns off (says zero) around an actual 5% because they don't want you to destroy your battery
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These are Li-Po batteries
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You're just calibrating the battery. I'm sure most of us already let it die without needing t enter fast boot.
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I guess I wasnt clear or there was a misunderstanding... I let it die, reaches 0% and starts to power off, I then boot it into fast boot mode, and find the battery with at least another 30mins of screen on time. This extra battery is what I'm trying to calibrate back into the OS stats.
Censura_Umbra said:
Also, you should not drain it to such an extent. If a battery ever reaches true zero, it won't turn on again or charge. The phone turns off (says zero) around an actual 5% because they don't want you to destroy your battery
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Good observation, always worthwhile hearing other opinions. I would say though, that 30mins of screen on time would be more than 5%.
I'm in my experience, the phone was fully dead after leaving it on in fastboot mode, battery all out. Then I plugged it into the charger, I got a flashing red light, and then the battery charge icon appeared. I then booted up and the OS reported a true 0%. This charge cycle, since I did this I'm at 28hrs with 20% to go with everything on [Wifi etc]
But so far, it's been a great way to get the most out of the battery.... lets get some more opinions, good or bad..
All thoughts welcome!
The flaw in this argument is that wiping battery stats in recovery does absolutely nothing.
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joshnichols189 said:
The flaw in this argument is that wiping battery stats in recovery does absolutely nothing.
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If that really is the case, then surely that makes this approach even more convincing as something that "works" in maintaining good battery life!
Vyker said:
I guess I wasnt clear or there was a misunderstanding... I let it die, reaches 0% and starts to power off, I then boot it into fast boot mode, and find the battery with at least another 30mins of screen on time. This extra battery is what I'm trying to calibrate back into the OS stats.
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You can't drain the battery fully when its on because the device has protection against draining the battery to a point which will damage it. In fast boot this control is not in place.
Is this worth doing? No. Our battery aren't replaceable and shortening its life to gain 5% is not worth it.
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You can't drain the battery fully when its on because the device has protection against draining the battery to a point which will damage it. In fast boot this control is not in place.
Is this worth doing? No. Our battery aren't replaceable and shortening its life to gain 5% is not worth it.
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I understand, good point, however we're not talking about just 5% here!
Explain how I was able to get an additional 30 mins screen on time!
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As skeptical as we can be, a lot of things can affect battery life so the extra 30mins could come from a number of factors.
On another note, I usually get 4-5 hours of screen time on my nexus 4.
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Explain how I was able to get an additional 30 mins screen on time!
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Because it takes much less battery on fastboot mode? Radios don't need to be on , brightness is minimal, only 1 CPU runs at lowest frequency, flash memory is not powered on?
To have a logical argument here, we must know how long fully charged battery lasts under fastboot.
And in agreement with many other voices, I don't think draining battery obove manufacturer threshold is a brilliant idea.
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Hello guys,
I have a problem with my battery this seems weird.
I don't have any battery drains but seems like the battery load when I'm not using it (screen off) like on the attached file. On the red bar I draw, you can notice it.
70-60% around and 40% around.
Anyone know why this happens?
Yes I've had that too after a reboot battery went from 70% to 75% not sure why, but is odd behaviour for li-ion batteries to do this. If it was a ni-cad or ni-mh I can understand this, its called recovery, after battery is unloaded it gains back voltage.
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I have this problem too, can't do anything
Maybe its because intensive use then after the phone rest and gain back some %
This is curious. It's been this way for about a day or so. No actual battery life issues that I can tell. No heat or performance issues. Battery calibration?
T-mobile rooted and my only mod is AdAway.
Other than this issue, all is normal.
Thoughts?
Vexamus said:
This is curious. It's been this way for about a day or so. No actual battery life issues that I can tell. No heat or performance issues. Battery calibration?
T-mobile rooted and my only mod is AdAway.
Other than this issue, all is normal.
Thoughts?
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Someone else reported something like this in another topic. I can't remember what type of V20 they had. My thought was that the battery was bad.
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spexwood said:
Someone else reported something like this in another topic. I can't remember what type of V20 they had. My thought was that the battery was bad.
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I'm almost 100% certain that it's a calibration issue. 100% software. There were similar issues in a Samsung 6.0.1 ROM as well. Bad battery would be never reporting as "FULL" to the OS. Fortunately, even if it's a bad battery, thank jebus for replaceable battery!
One of the things I'm trying was to pull the battery, hold the power button down to discharge any capacitors in the charging or power circuits and then replaced the battery. Now it shows 89% and charging as well as "collecting battery info... please wait.". I'll let you know if it breaks 94%. I think the calibration was off after going a full day of constant usage but plugged in (drove 10 hours while using Waze).
Definitely a calibration issue. The above method had the predicted effect. Fully charged at 100% again. Spread the word. FYI, I held the power button for a good 30 seconds with no battery in the phone and obviously unplugged.
Peace!
Vexamus said:
I'm almost 100% certain that it's a calibration issue. 100% software. There were similar issues in a Samsung 6.0.1 ROM as well. Bad battery would be never reporting as "FULL" to the OS. Fortunately, even if it's a bad battery, thank jebus for replaceable battery!
One of the things I'm trying was to pull the battery, hold the power button down to discharge any capacitors in the charging or power circuits and then replaced the battery. Now it shows 89% and charging as well as "collecting battery info... please wait.". I'll let you know if it breaks 94%. I think the calibration was off after going a full day of constant usage but plugged in (drove 10 hours while using Waze).
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Well, you see, at first I thought it was a bad battery, but last night, my battery began acting funny. It was at something like 40% and then I did 1 reboot and then battery was at 25%. Then I had to reboot again, and battery was suddenly at 18% and stayed that way for a long time. I decided to try the calibration thing and it may have solved some of my battery issues (I did a few other things too, so not sure exactly what helped). I was always told that battery calibration was no longer necessary. Something about the way that Android reads the voltage of the phone rather than the capacity now... Or something... I forget the technical mumbo jumbo. Anyways, that's one reason I always had been telling people that calibration is just a placebo and that their battery may just be bad. Now I'm not too sure what to think!
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