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Someone root and unlock dis bish

Save me from having to get the Nexus 6 monstrosity.

LifeAsADroid said:
Save me from having to get the Nexus 6 monstrosity.
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this only factor its keeping me from over hype myself to this phone, if someone roots and unlocks bootloader this beast. will be the android phone of the year on size specs and battery.

That's where I am. N6 is too big. I have a Moto X and Nexus 7 (both 2013), and the N6 is just too big, based on the PhoneArena size comparisons. I need root, so the N6 has a slight advantage right now.
I love the idea of a Nexus phone, but the Turbo has most of the features I would want, like Moto Apps (same/similar to Moto X), wireless charging, amazing battery, and it's not so big. I know the N6 will be easy to root/unlock, but I don't if that is enough to outweigh the size.
Price is still an unknown on the Turbo, too. I have to think it's less than the $649 of the N6.
Semi-related.. Another thing I was thinking about the other day.. the Turbo has capacative buttons, with no menu button. My Moto X has on-screen buttons and does show the three dots from time to time that works as a menu button on the right side of the nav bar. How would the Turbo handle such a situation? Would the developer be forced to make a menu button somewhere in their app?

Don't forget about the note 4
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I'm confident we'll get root. Almost every phone out there has gotten root, most without much delay.
Time will tell though

This might be the first phone I might not care about root. I don't use hotspots. Its 90% pure Android with actually useful extra features. With 3 gigs of ram and that battery, do I really care about bloat apps? I think maybe unicon and xposed might be my only reasons. And there not just haves. Of course I want root. Its my phone. But it won't be a deal breaker for me.

I've been spoiled by Xposed, and do use hotspot for my N7. I also use some Tasker profiles that need root, so it's kind of a must for me. I agree with @rajuabju, at the rate things have been going, it won't be more than a few months. Who knows, maybe this latest Moto exploit will work. Or maybe the middleman will have codes for the Turbo. We'll know in a few weeks, I guess.

fury683 said:
I've been spoiled by Xposed, and do use hotspot for my N7. I also use some Tasker profiles that need root, so it's kind of a must for me. I agree with @rajuabju, at the rate things have been going, it won't be more than a few months. Who knows, maybe this latest Moto exploit will work. Or maybe the middleman will have codes for the Turbo. We'll know in a few weeks, I guess.
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Lol, exactly why I won't get a phone without root. Xposed and the hacked hotspot app for VZW. Also why I would like it "permanently" unlocked (like the RAZR HD was - a blown fuse that can't be fixed or "patched" once destroyed), easier to flash SuperSU.zip onto the phone after every update without worrying about "is it safe to take the update or not? Will I lose root?"

How much success has there been unlocking bootloaders on these Verizon Motorola devices in the past year or two?

grin0048 said:
How much success has there been unlocking bootloaders on these Verizon Motorola devices in the past year or two?
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My Verizon Moto Maker Moto X is unlocked. The Chinese middleman was unlocking Moto X and another Moto phone.. Maxx or Ultra, maybe?
And SunShine seemed to work on most Droids.
Unless you were being sarcastic, in which case, you got me.

fury683 said:
My Verizon Moto Maker Moto X is unlocked. The Chinese middleman was unlocking Moto X and another Moto phone.. Maxx or Ultra, maybe?
And SunShine seemed to work on most Droids.
Unless you were being sarcastic, in which case, you got me.
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No, wasn't trying to be sarcastic at all. I've been rolling with my S3 for the past 2.5 years and haven't been paying very much attention outside of that. I was somewhat aware that it was possible to pay some...one...thing...idk to get some of these Motorola devices unlocked--what a strange situation that is.

grin0048 said:
How much success has there been unlocking bootloaders on these Verizon Motorola devices in the past year or two?
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I would say there are probably equal odds that SunShine works for Turbo, or that Moto patched it. But given the propensity to root/unlock devices, it will happen rather quickly.

Sunshine won't work for the Droid Turbo, yet.
It only works for 4.4.3 and below, the Turbo will undoubtedly be released on 4.4.4 or 5.0, but that doesn't mean it won't eventually work. It's the only hope though.

I've been out of the CDMA loop for years and years and years now. Don't these phones use SIMs now? Is it just a matter of software unlocking GSM frequencies or is it still completely different hardware?
I was a phablet user for 2 years but went back to a N5 and am actually liking the smaller form factor, and would get this over the N6. A stock 5.0 port making this GPe would sure be sweet.
This phone looks geeat, but I'm on TMo.

Poi25 said:
I've been out of the CDMA loop for years and years and years now. Don't these phones use SIMs now? Is it just a matter of software unlocking GSM frequencies or is it still completely different hardware?
I was a phablet user for 2 years but went back to a N5 and am actually liking the smaller form factor, and would get this over the N6. A stock 5.0 port making this GPe would sure be sweet.
This phone looks geeat, but I'm on TMo.
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The SIM is for LTE only, I believe. The rest is done over CDMA. I believe the N6 has a US edition and a world edition, so the US edition will work with all major carriers on all bands and won't really be "different". The Droid line is Verizon exclusive, so it will be locked to CDMA and Verizon's LTE bands.

grin0048 said:
No, wasn't trying to be sarcastic at all. I've been rolling with my S3 for the past 2.5 years and haven't been paying very much attention outside of that. I was somewhat aware that it was possible to pay some...one...thing...idk to get some of these Motorola devices unlocked--what a strange situation that is.
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you could pay a middle man to send you an unlock code but you needed to pass along your IMEI number to get it...now, sunshine seems to unlock just about all of the Moto phones from 2013 afaik...
i HIGHLY doubt sunshine will work out of the box on a Turbo..but heres to hoping...

Metfanant said:
you could pay a middle man to send you an unlock code but you needed to pass along your IMEI number to get it...now, sunshine seems to unlock just about all of the Moto phones from 2013 afaik...
i HIGHLY doubt sunshine will work out of the box on a Turbo..but heres to hoping...
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I used the MiddleMan for my Moto G while I was on a prepaid Verizon plan. $45 well spent.
I was VERY lucky to have gotten my Verizon HTC One M7's bootloader unlocked the first day it came out Verizon blundered and didn't turn off that capability through HTC right away.

Will this beast be available worldwide or only in the US ?
PLEASE say worldwide.

roddem said:
Will this beast be available worldwide or only in the US ?
PLEASE say worldwide.
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PLEASE don't troll threads with your stupid questions that have nothing to do with the topic.

Metfanant said:
you could pay a middle man to send you an unlock code but you needed to pass along your IMEI number to get it...now, sunshine seems to unlock just about all of the Moto phones from 2013 afaik...
i HIGHLY doubt sunshine will work out of the box on a Turbo..but heres to hoping...
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If you're going to comment on a dev forum, at least understand the terminology before you use it... otherwise it makes you seem ignorant. "UNLOCKED" and "UNLOCKING THE BOOTLOADER" are two very different things that have ZERO to do with one another.
All LTE CDMA phones for the past 2 years that use a SIM are "unlocked", as this refers to the carrier lock that is placed on the device when it is sold in bulk to network providers (which is why you have three network settings in your phones setting menu - LTE, GSM, and Global). Don't use terminology you don't understand, as you're adding to the ignorance too many seem to have about what unlocking is and what unlocking a bootloader is. It makes it only that much harder for other individuals to get the correct information, and is the reason why a VZW rep tried to tell me I don't need a developer edition to unlock my phone, because all LTE devices are unlocked when I tried to explain I was looking for a developer edition so I could unlock the bootloader.
Very few Verizon phones have the capability to unlock the phone's bootloader, which allows for rooting without an exploit and the ability to flash custom ROMs (firmware), such as Cyanagenmod. Those of you believing root will appear on any new Motorola phones are not well versed in Motorola phones sold by Verizon. Dan Rosenberg, who is the person anyone with a Motorola device on Verizon has to to thank for the last half decade of being able to root your Motorola VZW phones, has repeatedly posted on numerous threads for over a year to not expect for your Motorola devices to be rooted and if you want root, either buy a Nexus or buy a Developer Edition (if VZW is going to release any more editions after the S5 is not known and information about Developer Editions for the Note 4 Droid Turbo have been repeatedly ignored by VZW's Public Affairs office). This is due to the fact VZW has wizened up and made finding an exploit on anything past 4.4.4 nigh impossible. Exploits that allow root access are not easy to find (taking several months for most VZW Moto root exploits) and as soon as one is found, within a matter of weeks, if not days, VZW will push an automatic update, forcing your phone to update to patch the exploit. This is why when you root your phone you're told to disable OTA updates at the apk level by freezing the update apk or removing it all together after making a backup of it.
Many Motorola users got a surprise in late Spring when a Moto employee "accidentally" included the exploited code that allowed you to blow the fuse and unlock the bootloader of devices running 4.4.2. That was a once in a billion opportunity that will probably never happen again. Every time an exploit has been found that allowed root access or the ability to unlock the bootloader (which was only recently cracked in the past year, possibly two... to put that in perspective, it took over half a decade for Dan Rosenberg to find the exploit that allowed the internal fuse to be blown, unlocking the bootloader). Exploits are not easy things to find, especially in Motorola devices running on VZW's network.
To all of those that like to post root bounties... BUY A DEVELOPER EDITION. You'll pay $300 for a device and then offer $300+ for a root bounty... which is the cost of developer edition device... considering VZW offers Edge, you no longer have to pay full retail in one go for a DE. From this point forward, VZW customers need to comprehend the fact that rooting will continue to be increasingly difficult to perform, most especially on Moto phones running on VZW's network. If you want root access, buy the S5 developer edition or wait until the first week of december to see if a developer edition for the Note 4 will be released (if a Note 4 DE is going to be released, it will occur within the 4 - 6 weeks following it's RTM on 10/23 [Thursday]).

If I was in charge of developing the Note 4, I would do this....

If I was in charge of developing the Note 4, I would do this:
1. Make it duo sim card compatible
I don't know if it is possible but with duo sim cards you can have 2 phone numbers. One phone number can be for work/business and another for personal use. That way, when you get a phone call, different ring tones would let you if the call is coming from work or from personal calls.
2. Make the Note 4 unlockable to all carriers like the iphone 6. The iphone 6 (the t-mobile version) from the Apple store is essentially unlocked and it can be used with Verizon, AT&T, and T-mobile. It does have some issue with Sprint at the moment though. Anyway, if the Samsung web store can sell extra batteries and other accessories, then it can certainly sell and unlocked Note 4 at full price and there would still be a lot of people willing to buy it.
To cut down the cost, the Note 4 can eliminate some of the less than useful sensors such has a heart monitor, a UV sensor, and others. How often do you use the UV sensor and you can check your pulse with your fingers on your wrist with a stop watch or a regular watch with seconds counter.

Moto X Force to Canada?

Hello, I was wondering if any Canadians here have gotten a Moto X Force dual sim edition, and if so, what way did you get it? I can't seem to find any dual sim models that will ship to Canada.
thanks!

Does a dual sim variety even exist? I can't specifically find one. Unless the SIM/MicroSD tray can also operate as dual sim on the standard model? I purchased my Moto X Force from handtec.co.uk. Wasn't cheap with the exchange rate and duty, but I didn't care, I wanted this phone. Specs are incredible after a few months of usage, no complaints.
ONE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE THOUGH! This screen scratches EASILY, largely due to the fact that its not glass, it's a softer plastic material despite feeling very glass like to the touch. Make sure to get a screen protector put on the moment you take it out of the box. The replacement shattershields also aren't available in Canada and I tried like crazy to have Motorola US ship me them, but they would not. You can't order them from their site unless you are shipping to a US address and paying with a US addressed credit card. I finally had to find someone in the US to buy me a couple and reship them up to me. Again, cost a small fortune, but better to have them now for the future than to need them a year or two from now and find that they are no longer available.

JD2005 said:
Does a dual sim variety even exist? I can't specifically find one. Unless the SIM/MicroSD tray can also operate as dual sim on the standard model? I purchased my Moto X Force from handtec.co.uk. Wasn't cheap with the exchange rate and duty, but I didn't care, I wanted this phone. Specs are incredible after a few months of usage, no complaints.
ONE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE THOUGH! This screen scratches EASILY, largely due to the fact that its not glass, it's a softer plastic material despite feeling very glass like to the touch. Make sure to get a screen protector put on the moment you take it out of the box. The replacement shattershields also aren't available in Canada and I tried like crazy to have Motorola US ship me them, but they would not. You can't order them from their site unless you are shipping to a US address and paying with a US addressed credit card. I finally had to find someone in the US to buy me a couple and reship them up to me. Again, cost a small fortune, but better to have them now for the future than to need them a year or two from now and find that they are no longer available.
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From my googling, apparently only the units sold in Brazil/China/Mexico are dual-sim enabled/supported. The unit you got from Handtec/UK, the EU Moto X Force units are single-sim only. They come with a tray that allows for 2 sims + microSD. What's the point of NAFTA if you can't order a phone directly from Mexico? LOL.
Does anyone know how the dual sim works on the Force? If it's Active/Standby or Active/Active? 4G/3G? Maybe I should go for the single sim model if it's going to be this insane of an effort to purchase one.

silentfury said:
Hello, I was wondering if any Canadians here have gotten a Moto X Force dual sim edition, and if so, what way did you get it? I can't seem to find any dual sim models that will ship to Canada. thanks!
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silentfury said:
From my googling, apparently only the units sold in Brazil/China/Mexico are dual-sim enabled/supported .
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Yes, several Canadiana and U.S.A. XDA members have gotten dual sim Moto X Force from Mexico, via @Jaocagomez.
@Jaocagomez was offering that service. He lives in Mexico and was re-shipping to other countries, for a very reasonable fee. Contact him and see if he's still doing that?
FYI: I used him to get the predecessor Motorola phone (Quark - Moto Maxx XT1225) from Mexico, December 2014. Worked out very well!
He also offered the service for the Moto X Force (Kinzie). See this thread and his responses:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo-2/help/moto-x-force-to-usa-t3258480
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i've got 2 phones coming my way
1 to colorado, USA
and 1 to Canada
another one also in process.
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Shadowz619 said:
This guy (Jaocagomez) gets +1 because he did an excellent job at helping me bring over the Moto X Force into Canada for me. =)
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As you can see from this thread, he's a very helpful and respected XDA member...
[X Force] How to Manually Flash Official Firmware
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...force-how-to-manually-flash-official-t3282077

Hi all, I'm new here. Go by the name of vapez. Glad to be here. This is great. I have been waiting for a similar phone, as I think my original droid razr is finally on its death bed. I missed the original turbo and mini, but this seems like a nice one to look for. I think we only have the moto x play available, which I almost bit the bullet and bought, but upon finding out about this and its rugged status, I think its a better fit for me, especially since the droid razr was such a tank for me.

Joining the Turbo 2 wagon

Just ordered it on eBay. As far as I know, it's unlocked and does not have the Verizon logo. Will I be able to root it?
I've read great reviews on this phone, and hence ordered it. But, the overall picture on this forum looks grim.
What do I need to know? What are the first things I should do after getting it?

srk999 said:
Just ordered it on eBay. As far as I know, it's unlocked and does not have the Verizon logo. Will I be able to root it?
I've read great reviews on this phone, and hence ordered it. But, the overall picture on this forum looks grim.
What do I need to know? What are the first things I should do after getting it?
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If it's unlocked and does not have the Version logo then its the moto force x , and yes you can root it , droid turbo 2 does not have root.

srk999 said:
What do I need to know? What are the first things I should do after getting it?
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Hopefully you've ordered Moto X Force. First charge it, put your sim, sd card (if you have), turn it on, install apps and enjoy. If you you wish, you can unlock bootloader first. Because procedure will do factory reset your phone but I have Force for about half of the year and this is my very first Android phone, including nexus, running stock, locked bl and no rooted.

I think we are in the same boat.
I bought the Droid Turbo 2 on Ebay from a Chinese seller. He said it's factory unlocked and It isn't the Verizon version.
Looking at the details it looks like Droid Turbo 2(xt1585 and bands are not as X Force).
I don't know if they are selling X Force as Droid Turbo 2 or they get the Verizon phore direct from factory without the logo but this put me think on what about updates.

What is in about? Maybe they got them directly from factory.
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it dt2 with boot loader unlocked m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=521809261322&spm=0.0.0.0
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Lockscreen Ads - Removal???

Searched but found nothing. Since May of 2013 I've been using an LG Optimus G Pro E980 on AT&T (rooted, unlocked, tethered) . The Bluetooth issue from KiKat and earlier (fixed in Lollipop, but this phone cannot get L) is causing me to have to factory reset the phone a little too often lately, and I feel it's time for, and I'd like to get an upgrade.
Funds are somewhat limited right now for a phone purchase, and the G6 ticks almost all of the boxes in the search for my next phone. That along with the reduced price on Amazon, puts this at the top of my list.
Amazon Prime currently has the G6 for $399 with Lockscreen ads, or $549 without. I figure for $150 savings, I'd opt for the ads and see if they are removable after the sale. I've seen some tutorials on how to remove the Prime Lockscreen ads from the Moto G5 where some code is injected and it removes the ads, at least until the next OTA update, but I've not seen a hack for the G6. I'm curious if anyone has the Prime-version G6 with ads and if they've been successful in removing the ads.
Can a pristine version of the OS be dropped onto the G6 and turn it into a "normal" no-ad version (AT&T)?
I have not scoured the threads yet (didn't want to get super involved in learning everything about the phone if ad-removal is not doable), but is this phone relatively easily hackable,, bootloader-unlockable, rootable? And, if so, is there a no-ad hack, or are the tools accessible, and is there an ad-free OS that will work on an AT&T G6?
Thanks in advance!!!

andygold said:
Searched but found nothing. Since May of 2013 I've been using an LG Optimus G Pro E980 on AT&T (rooted, unlocked, tethered) . The Bluetooth issue from KiKat and earlier (fixed in Lollipop, but this phone cannot get L) is causing me to have to factory reset the phone a little too often lately, and I feel it's time for, and I'd like to get an upgrade.
Funds are somewhat limited right now for a phone purchase, and the G6 ticks almost all of the boxes in the search for my next phone. That along with the reduced price on Amazon, puts this at the top of my list.
Amazon Prime currently has the G6 for $399 with Lockscreen ads, or $549 without. I figure for $150 savings, I'd opt for the ads and see if they are removable after the sale. I've seen some tutorials on how to remove the Prime Lockscreen ads from the Moto G5 where some code is injected and it removes the ads, at least until the next OTA update, but I've not seen a hack for the G6. I'm curious if anyone has the Prime-version G6 with ads and if they've been successful in removing the ads.
Can a pristine version of the OS be dropped onto the G6 and turn it into a "normal" no-ad version (AT&T)?
I have not scoured the threads yet (didn't want to get super involved in learning everything about the phone if ad-removal is not doable), but is this phone relatively easily hackable,, bootloader-unlockable, rootable? And, if so, is there a no-ad hack, or are the tools accessible, and is there an ad-free OS that will work on an AT&T G6?
Thanks in advance!!!
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You cannot drop a new ROM because the BL is locked.
The Essential phone is $399 with the 360 camera on Amazon for Cyber Monday.

Essential Phone does not work for me. One of my requirements is expandable memory. I'm constantly factory resetting my current phone often when I screw something up while hacking. All my important data and music files are on micro SD, and a reset to the phone is a quick process without having to reinstall 60 gigs worth of data.

andygold said:
Essential Phone does not work for me. One of my requirements is expandable memory. I'm constantly factory resetting my current phone often when I screw something up while hacking. All my important data and music files are on micro SD, and a reset to the phone is a quick process without having to reinstall 60 gigs worth of data.
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I understand; but if you BL unlock and install TWRP, you don't have to factory reset.
You can do a dirty flash and keep your data.
You aren't going to be hacking anything on a BL locked LG G6.
I do understand your point though. It's just that Amazon, locks their promo devices down.

I was under the impression that the US997 was BL Unlockable.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/official-lg-g6-bootloader-unlock-t3614719

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I was under the impression that the US997 was BL Unlockable.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/official-lg-g6-bootloader-unlock-t3614719
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Only if you buy one that is specified to be unlocked.
There are two versions with the same number and only the one sold from places like B&H has an unlockable bootloader.
The US Cellular version is also called a US997 and you cannot unlock the BL.
The Amazon version is locked down.

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Only if you buy one that is specified to be unlocked.
There are two versions with the same number and only the one sold from places like B&H has an unlockable bootloader.
The US Cellular version is also called a US997 and you cannot unlock the BL.
The Amazon version is locked down.
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Love this forum and those who post here!!!!
I was not aware there was more than one version of the US997. I thought there was one and only one US997, but now I stand corrected. Thank you!
Just to reiterate....are you saying that there is no work around via flashing to get the firmware that B&H, or a non-Amazon seller might have?
And a change of subject, and possibly a newbie question...I've never purchased an "unlocked" non-carrier-branded phone before, so I have absolutely no experience in these matter!!!!! I'm going to be using this phone on the AT&T network. Since it is not branded to AT&T, how will I get OS updates and security patches? Can I assume that AT&T won't even push OTA updates towards this phone?
And I've read a thread that said that with an unbranded device, I would not get VoLTE, nor WiFi calling. Any truth to this?

With a locked BL there will be nothing you can do with the Amazon version except use it.
As for AT&T, I don't know about VoLTE or WiFi calling.
On Verizon I get VoLTE and I don't care about WiFi calling.
OS updates come from LG. Verizon can't push updates to my phone.