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Well, it's coming up on that time to think about our next phone. It seems that Samsung and Verizon is hell bent to keep us from flashing our phones. I've been looking around here and it seems that most of the developers have gone to Nexus and LG devices. From what I've seen so far I might go to the LG G4+ I recently heard rumor about.
What phones do you think is going to be popular among developers?
For sure, it isn't going to be the note 5, we all know why. The note 4 will still be with developers I'm guessing. The lg g4+ (lg g4 pro) is probably being announced at Berlin IFA and will be supported, look at the lg g4 devs.
The new nexus device will obviously be a powerhouse for a lot of people looking for an unlocked bootloader and stock vanilla android .
Anyways more devices might have support like the moto x series and sony's Xperia lines are good devices too compared to Samsung's insane pricing on their devices.
Definitely the new Nexus devices will be on the top of that list. I'm also looking @, for my use come Feb '16, a GSM G4 as well as the M9.
I'm interested in seeing what others have to say. This is what I want - removable battery, SD card slot, IR blaster, easy root and unlocked bootloader.
This is what I need - all of the above (or, if not a replaceable battery, then a battery case that allows on the fly recharging...)
I'm looking forward to Christmas and seeing what comes of it - that's the season (well, just prior to it) for all the new goodies...
What are others looking @?
I know I'm done with Samsung (iron fisted, whore mongers... No offense!) - they and Verizon have made it apparent who they believe owns my phone. Top it off with the lobotomized phones they now offer and they've gone from "smart" phone to "not-so-smart" phone...
I'm happy with my Note3 on Jasmine, but I don't see it getting an upgrade to Marshmallow. The note 5 is out of the question, I'd like a Note4(but the Verizon retail version doesn't appear to be rootable). I've got time, the Nexus on the Verizon site seems to be a bit light in the hardware side, the LG looks nice. Of course, there's always leaving Verizon, if I can convince the wife.
I just made the jump to TMO. I was afraid they'd not have the network I need here in Georgia, but they're comparable thus far to Big Red, with a greatly reduced cost structure and a heap more data for the $$$.
I was able to set my Note 3 (CDMA) up to work on TMO's GSM network and have awesome data speeds. It's a game changer - if I don't like them, I can move to AT&T and, when the time comes, root whatever I buy outright without the runaround that Verizon offers.
I thought about the Note 4 on TMO - it's an easy root but it's just not that much of an upgrade over the 3 and certainly not a $500+ upgrade. So, I'll stay put with the N3 and move to something else when this old daily driver don't drive no more... (That'll likely be Android "Zebra cake....")
Well after a year of heavy abuse I finally did it. I was surprised as it was in the case, not terribly surprised as it did fall. Well I can't afford $175 to send it in, I don't trust myself repairing. I bought the Note 5 when it came out and immediately went back to the Nexus 6. So I have JoD but there is no phone I am interested in that they offer. Only OEM phone I am interested in would be the m9 because at least they have a few AOSP roms. Samsung doesn't because of stupid Exynos, LG appears to have a very WIP AOSP. So now I can deal with cracked screen or use my crappy note.
I remember back in the day before security was hot topic almost any flagship could have a Nexus like experience. Now a days your pretty much stuck with stock roms and depending on carrier root may not even be possible. In 2015 looks like only options for AOSP is Nexus, Moto, and HTC(via custom rom).
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Well after a year of heavy abuse I finally did it. I was surprised as it was in the case, not terribly surprised as it did fall. Well I can't afford $175 to send it in, I don't trust myself repairing. I bought the Note 5 when it came out and immediately went back to the Nexus 6. So I have JoD but there is no phone I am interested in that they offer. Only OEM phone I am interested in would be the m9 because at least they have a few AOSP roms. Samsung doesn't because of stupid Exynos, LG appears to have a very WIP AOSP. So now I can deal with cracked screen or use my crappy note.
I remember back in the day before security was hot topic almost any flagship could have a Nexus like experience. Now a days your pretty much stuck with stock roms and depending on carrier root may not even be possible. In 2015 looks like only options for AOSP is Nexus, Moto, and HTC(via custom rom).
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So it's for sure been a year since you purchased your phone? If not, you have your one year warranty through Motorola still? If you are, that sucks. Fortunately mine occurred within the one year lol
Hope you get it fixed asap. AMOLED displays are expensive, 175 $ sounds fair when you compare that to 90$ of Samsung S3 i9300 display.
Just prepare your wallets for the lg v10. That phone is sick and the drop test is insane. Military grade drop specs
For now using note 5, at least it has a better screen and camera. Even still Nexus is a Nexus. I don't even care about roms and root. I just don't like bloaty skins.
I also bought my phone through T-Mobile so I am pretty sure I don't have Moto care and its probably been a year anyway
Well i LOVE my LG G2 (Verizon), but my LCD just crapped out and I figure Id just upgrade to a new phone, I use straight talk so I can Use almost any variant, I just went with Verizon cuz service was better around here and It came pre unlocked. Im considering a G3 or really want the G4, I cant afford a G5 Id like it under $200, what would you do? Switch to a G3, or skip the 3 and Goto G4, or is their something better then LG in that price range?? Its gotta be rootable (what isnt these days) i love the IR sensor, I love everything about my G2 so i want to match as many features and specs as I can, Also a Removeable battery and SD card slot are always nice..
Whats everyones opinions? I need to buy ASAP. I hate flipping my G2 like a ninja with a sword just to navigate normal everyday use.
Thanks guys, looking forward to ALL opinions. Im open for any ideas.
I switched from LG G2 to Nexus 5X, which is very close to a G4 under hood.
I don't regret it. A very good phone for under 300$ and always up to date. Google promised updates the next two years. So that the 5X will get the follower of N next year. The daily usage performance is significantly better than the G2.
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The LG smartphones are becoming increasingly developer unfriendly. For example, the LG G4 AT&T and US991 version still have locked bootloaders. I switched to Nexus 5X, and it seems fine. It's a great value right now because US-based vendors are selling the 5X with 32GB for under 250USD on ebay. I guess it's part of the clearance for the next generation model. The deals on the unlocked Motorola X Pure and the new Moto G4 are also looking good. In general, I don't think I'll ever want to buy a carrier-locked, carrier-branded smartphone again. It's just not worth the trouble.
PS: the old LG G2 also continues running strong..
I myself am patiently waiting on the ZTE Axon 7.
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The LG smartphones are becoming increasingly developer unfriendly. For example, the LG G4 AT&T and US991 version still have locked bootloaders. I switched to Nexus 5X, and it seems fine. It's a great value right now because US-based vendors are selling the 5X with 32GB for under 250USD on ebay. I guess it's part of the clearance for the next generation model. The deals on the unlocked Motorola X Pure and the new Moto G4 are also looking good. In general, I don't think I'll ever want to buy a carrier-locked, carrier-branded smartphone again. It's just not worth the trouble.
PS: the old LG G2 also continues running strong..
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Thanks for your promp replys. I see the Nexus 5X is a hit, I have looked at that one. Why dont they like putting SD card slots on phones anymore?? I dont understand why tey are abandoning that simple luxury. What are some other runner ups with these devices? Are any of the Motorola Droids that good? I want to have the same if not better RAM, and Processors as my G2. I fairly bigger screen would be nice. They pop out so many different models of phones a year its hard to keep track of them anymore!
T-Mobile unlocked G4 on eBay is always around $180 for new other or refurbished condition.
Hardware wise, G4 is way better than 5X.
Personally I would said g4 or moto x pure are better choice.
N5X has very good software development. But the lower ram, the lousy camera, 1080p display, lack of SD card, plastic construction, poor sound output make it a meh phone.
It is the most dispointng Nexus phone ever...
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T-Mobile unlocked G4 on eBay is always around $180 for new other or refurbished condition.
Hardware wise, G4 is way better than 5X.
Personally I would said g4 or moto x pure are better choice.
N5X has very good software development. But the lower ram, the lousy camera, 1080p display, lack of SD card, plastic construction, poor sound output make it a meh phone.
It is the most dispointng Nexus phone ever...
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I know their is a difference between my G2 (VS980 Variant) and and all the others, like the cases have to be special. Verizon hides the hidden service menu and, its like the GSM versions AT&T+T-Mobile, and even Sprint's LS980, are all different then the Verizon VS980 ....If i were to get G4, what variant would you sugget? Is Verizon different on it too? I use a Verizon SIM from straight talk but I would consider switching to AT&T because even without getting throttled I hear the Verizon caps HIGH SPEED as well..... Would CDMA Verizon sim work on a AT&T variant G4?
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Thanks for your promp replys. I see the Nexus 5X is a hit, I have looked at that one. Why dont they like putting SD card slots on phones anymore?? I dont understand why tey are abandoning that simple luxury.
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Isn't the answer very obvious? The entire industry, the Googles, the Apples, the Verizons, and the Hollywoods of the world don't want you to have much local storage so that you just pay more for bandwidth and for cloud storage. They want you to store all backups on the cloud. They want you to save and the access all your pictures and videos from the cloud. Besides, having less storage means it's gonna be less likely that you will get the movies and TV shows off bittorrent in order to watch it on your phone or tablet. Having said that, 32GB of storage is fine for my needs on a smartphone. Maybe somewhat tight, but still fine. Although I do see the appeal of more storage. I have a 40GB of music in compressed format, and it would certainly be nice to have it all on my phone.
What are some other runner ups with these devices? Are any of the Motorola Droids that good? I want to have the same if not better RAM, and Processors as my G2. I fairly bigger screen would be nice. They pop out so many different models of phones a year its hard to keep track of them anymore!
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There are good deals on the 2015 Motorola X Pure, which is the same generation device as Nexus 5X, but with more RAM, bigger screen, and storage card slot. There are good sales on those. Even brick and mortar stores are selling them for under 300USD right now. On the con side, I read in a few reviews that Moto X Pure has below average screen brightness and poor battery life. The other day I saw a Moto X Pure side by side with Moto G, and the Moto X Pure had noticeably dimmer screen. I even set its brightness to the max, and it still looked dimmer than Moto G (2015). The screen looked good for indoor use, but poor for outdoors. And so I thought I'd rather have better screen and battery life and went for the 5X.
Also, interesting deals can be had on the Oneplus smartphones. The original Oneplus One smartphone is still a great smartphone is still sells new for 250USD for the 64GB version. It is based on the proven Snapdragon 801 SoC and has very good battery life. I recommended Oneplus One to everyone I know, and by today's standards it's still pretty much a perfect smartphone. The latest Oneplus 3 is also a great value, even at 400USD, but both don't have a storage card slot. The Oneplus 3 uses the Snapdragon 820 SoC (also used in LG G5) which is massively faster than the SD800-810 used in LG G2 through G4 (as well as any Nexus smartphone up to this date).
The new Moto G are also fine budget phones and have great features, but it's ridiculous that they have SoC that by most measures is still slower than the Snapdragon 800/801 we got in LG G2 and G3 years ago. The entry level Snapdragon SoCs are still kinda poor. I am wondering when Snapdragon creates a budget SoC based on the 820 family.
Why not just upgrade to Oneplus 3?
At least here in Europe (Lithuania)
5x - 250 euro
G4 - 360 euro
Moto Style - 380 euro
Oneplus 3 - 400 euro.
I think it's the current wisest choise to upgrade from LG G2.
I'm still hanging on my G2, just because I don't want to sell it for pennies..
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Why not just upgrade to Oneplus 3?
At least here in Europe (Lithuania)
5x - 250 euro
G4 - 360 euro
Moto Style - 380 euro
Oneplus 3 - 400 euro.
I think it's the current wisest choise to upgrade from LG G2.
I'm still hanging on my G2, just because I don't want to sell it for pennies..
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U. S. Prices of these phones are different than Euro , especially when one could find good deals on eBay.
For example, like new G4 is $180 , while 5x is $200 or more...
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I know their is a difference between my G2 (VS980 Variant) and and all the others, like the cases have to be special. Verizon hides the hidden service menu and, its like the GSM versions AT&T+T-Mobile, and even Sprint's LS980, are all different then the Verizon VS980 ....If i were to get G4, what variant would you sugget? Is Verizon different on it too? I use a Verizon SIM from straight talk but I would consider switching to AT&T because even without getting throttled I hear the Verizon caps HIGH SPEED as well..... Would CDMA Verizon sim work on a AT&T variant G4?
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I assume you are using straight talk. Straight talk uses both Verizon tower or AT&T tower. You need to call straight talk to find out if your local area is using Verizon or AT&T tower.
For straight talk, I believe Verizon sim won't work on a AT&T/tmobile G4. But a AT&T sim would work on both Verizon g4 or AT&T/Tmobile g4.
So you need to ask your carrier, straight talk, to decide which version of g4 you want to buy.
And if rom development is important to you, you would also want to check the G4 forum to see which variant of g4 has unlocked bootloader.
Some early patches of G4 suffers bootloop. If you decide on buying g4, make sure they are manufactured in late 2015 or later.
The G2 will be my last Android device for a while, im done with the way OEMs update software. Apple, here I go
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The G2 will be my last Android device for a while, im done with the way OEMs update software. Apple, here I go
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I could never switch to the dark side of Apple. I have an iphone 4 i got given to me, and ive never even turned it on yet. Its in the drawer with an LG volt, Galaxy Tab 4, Nokia Lumia Windows 8.1 , UMX, Visual Land Prestige Elite 8 tablet, Galaxy S3, ZTE Reef, Kindle Fire HD 7, some more random devices, and soon to be a LG G2. But I will buy a new digitizer and fix the G2.....
I really dont have the $300+ at the moment to throw on a new phone, the wife wants an LG Stylo of sorts for her Virgin Mobile service, and its her birthday in oh crap 3 days haha So I have to really get on it here. I dont want to get a G3 even tho they are so cheap, But only used G4's are under $200.... Ive looked at so many phones this week its crazy. I just cant pull the trigger, I keep doing a loop. I get pulled tword he G4, then look at the prices, and see everyones Bootloops, and Screen problems, and i get leary, So i check out the phones mentioned, and I like them, then the price pushes me back the G4 and it repeats all over again...
Im gonna have to fork out the cash or settle for something less... Its such a heard decision....
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I could never switch to the dark side of Apple. I have an iphone 4 i got given to me, and ive never even turned it on yet. Its in the drawer with an LG volt, Galaxy Tab 4, Nokia Lumia Windows 8.1 , UMX, Visual Land Prestige Elite 8 tablet, Galaxy S3, ZTE Reef, Kindle Fire HD 7, some more random devices, and soon to be a LG G2. But I will buy a new digitizer and fix the G2.....
I really dont have the $300+ at the moment to throw on a new phone, the wife wants an LG Stylo of sorts for her Virgin Mobile service, and its her birthday in oh crap 3 days haha So I have to really get on it here. I dont want to get a G3 even tho they are so cheap, But only used G4's are under $200.... Ive looked at so many phones this week its crazy. I just cant pull the trigger, I keep doing a loop. I get pulled tword he G4, then look at the prices, and see everyones Bootloops, and Screen problems, and i get leary, So i check out the phones mentioned, and I like them, then the price pushes me back the G4 and it repeats all over again...
Im gonna have to fork out the cash or settle for something less... Its such a heard decision....
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What about nexus 6p? is it expensive where you live?
I wouldn't buy the G3, its a freaking G2 with QHD. And I've never had a G4 in my hands, but I just wouldn't buy another LG phone. I feel like the G2 was the best phone by them, after that, they are just creating crap.
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What about nexus 6p? is it expensive where you live?
I wouldn't buy the G3, its a freaking G2 with QHD. And I've never had a G4 in my hands, but I just wouldn't buy another LG phone. I feel like the G2 was the best phone by them, after that, they are just creating crap.
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I will use the internet to buy the device, All of my considerations are close to $300, the Moto X Prime, Nexus 6P, Oneplus 3, ect... I guess ill have to fork out the extra or lower my expectations. I hate to spend that much on a phone without any type of insurance, and I dont want a piece of junk either.... I have such hard times making decisions like this. I turn it into such a big deal for some reason. ha
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Well i LOVE my LG G2 (Verizon), but my LCD just crapped out and I figure Id just upgrade to a new phone, I use straight talk so I can Use almost any variant, I just went with Verizon cuz service was better around here and It came pre unlocked. Im considering a G3 or really want the G4, I cant afford a G5 Id like it under $200, what would you do? Switch to a G3, or skip the 3 and Goto G4, or is their something better then LG in that price range?? Its gotta be rootable (what isnt these days) i love the IR sensor, I love everything about my G2 so i want to match as many features and specs as I can, Also a Removeable battery and SD card slot are always nice..
Whats everyones opinions? I need to buy ASAP. I hate flipping my G2 like a ninja with a sword just to navigate normal everyday use.
Thanks guys, looking forward to ALL opinions. Im open for any ideas.
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Does BLU make a phone with these good of specs? Ive seen their name quite a bit lately.
Let me piggyback onto this thread (or I could make a separate one if you guys think is best) I'm in the same situation and I'm going crazy looking at online reviews and comparing numbers that never match. My conundrum to see if my thoughts might help you somehow (and if someone can help in the process.)
1. I bought this phone refurbished and as an emergency after drowning my last one in the ocean. I had never heard about it and wasn't even aware LG made flagship phones - it wasn't popular here in Portugal, I think it even sold just under the 16MB variant or at least I never saw a 32GB.
2. I like the very compact size (still the best screen to body ratio, I think?)
3. That it is plastic. Phones fall from time to time, I fail to see what's so great about a full glass phone. Paying a premium to stick in a case after.
4. UI isn't pretty, I think the camera has ultra agressive post-processing that hurts pictures, no more official updates but battery life used to be so good it made up for everything.
Currently my screen is also going, sometimes it doesn't respond to the touch, coating is gone so it's always a mess, brightness seems very poor. Phone heats up a lot, something I never noticed before. Battery drains almost 1% per per minute. Tried different ROMs, factory resetting, nothing solves anything. I think it's dead.
I have been looking at new phones and this is my list wit my pros and cons (AFAICT):
1: Oneplus 3 - Battery life doesn't seem as good as the G2, especially with web browsing. Heard somewhere wifi reception thingy isn't great and it's a point where they cut corners to make it cheaper. Web browsing and stuff is probably where I need more battery from a phone (GSMA numers: 8:35OP3 VS 11:42G2)
2. Xiaomi Mi5: Great size, good price, hard to get. Almost the only SD820 I've seen with as good or better battery life numbers than the G2 (I'll talk about the S7 latter). Never handled one, don't know what to think about the UI, afraid to get it from some store that will plague it with malware.
3. Samsung Galaxy S7 (Exynos): I know it's a safe purchase and probably the best allrounder. But it's expensive. Batery life worst than on the G2 except on video playback (which I don't use).
4. S7 Edge (Exynos): Too big IMO, ridiculously expensive but they say it has a terrific battery life. Yes, it beats the G2 but not by much, just kills it on video playback which isn't something I usually use.
5. Sony Experia Z5: Prices dropped a lot. Pretty but bulky. Has the SD810 MkII which doesn't heat up as much but still runs hot. Battery life seems better than the G2 on web browsing (14:35) but somehow I don't trust those numbers. Phone has way worst numbers overall.
6: Huawei P9: Lovely and perfect size for me. Great screen. Kirin SoC seems to run smoother and cooler than the SD. Battery life is worst. Same problem with Xiamoni's UI, it's an IOS-ised Android. Not necessarly a bad thing.
7: Xiaomi Redmi Note Pro SD650: Benchmarks tells us this SOC is slightly faster than last year 's top of the range 810. Some people say that's baloney. It's too big IMO but not ridiculously big. 4000mah battery that should outperforme every other phone on this list. It's dirty cheap. Same problems as with the Mi5 when it comes to buying one and where from, UI and I don't know what the glass is and if it's scatch resitant. Some poeple say it's Dragontail, the stuff Sony uses and the Japanese equivalent to Corning Gorilla glass. But Xiaomi doesn't say anything about it, or I haven't found it. Something that maybe could be sorted with a tempered glass screen but that sort of sucks IMO.
8: LG G4: Battery life is pants.
9: LG G5: Battery life is pants, the modulat thing just makes it a bulkier, more fragile phone.
10: HTC10: For the price, it is a joke. Hurts me to say it as a former fan of HTC.
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So, do I really even need one of these new phones? I rarely use the camera, don't care for fingerprint readers, no need for VR and QHD screens, 5.5 sizes are already beyond my sweet spot, not sure if I care about the latest Android thing. Tried Marshmallow on CM version, hated it.
I think I would need a newer phone if apps etc just start too become to demanding and bringing the great battery life of the G2 down.
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Maybe just buying a brand new G2? I mean, if my battery and screen weren't dying, I wouldn't even be looking at this matter. Not easy finding a new one though. Could get a Korean version with removable battery and SD card slot but have to investigate further into it, not sure what the differences are to the international version.
Two questions about this... do phone batteries go bad without being used on a 3 years old phone? Could part of the battery drain I'm experiencing also be the result of times moving forward and now having apps and stuff that use a lot more wifi, data, gps?
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Yes, I know it's a long post, lot's of questions... sorry!! Just shows you how confused I am.
robles4242 said:
Well i LOVE my LG G2 (Verizon), but my LCD just crapped out and I figure Id just upgrade to a new phone, I use straight talk so I can Use almost any variant, I just went with Verizon cuz service was better around here and It came pre unlocked. Im considering a G3 or really want the G4, I cant afford a G5 Id like it under $200, what would you do? Switch to a G3, or skip the 3 and Goto G4, or is their something better then LG in that price range?? Its gotta be rootable (what isnt these days) i love the IR sensor, I love everything about my G2 so i want to match as many features and specs as I can, Also a Removeable battery and SD card slot are always nice..
Whats everyones opinions? I need to buy ASAP. I hate flipping my G2 like a ninja with a sword just to navigate normal everyday use.
Thanks guys, looking forward to ALL opinions. Im open for any ideas.
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I've been using G2's for about 2 yrs now; 1st a VS980 (vzw), then T-mobile D801, now on AT&T since I moved. Both rooted + TWRP.
Before researching too much,I picked up a G4 factory refurbished AT&T, in like new condition, which I am planning to sell. Want external memory. Replaceable battery is a plus. After getting it, I find out that the bootloader is locked down hard. Rootable by flashing back to lollipop or earlier, but no real hope for TWRP. Would love it if it were easier to 0wn (root/unlock BL), as it seems to be a great device, with good battery life, which would probably jjust get better with a custom ROM & kernel.
There only seem to be about two G4 variants that can be bootloader unlocked, t-mo H811 and international H815. Maybe one or two others? F500, H810PR?
So I'm going with a G3 VS985, (vzw) to try out Total Wireless (uses vzw infrastructure) as carrier, since AT&T data signal is marginal in my area. The nice thing about the LG vzw G series variants are that they can serve as CDMA or GSM.
Buying from swappa.com seems to be a little better bet than eBay for guarantee against buying someone else's problem, as has happened to me once or twice in the past.
Jury is still out on it, as I am still waiting for the G3.
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From what I've seen one could expect almost half the battery life from a G2. Some people claim stand-by and SOT that I never ever got from any smartphone. What sort of times are you getting?
I was referring to the G4 there, which is newly refurbished with new battery, I believe. However, my G2's have always been pretty good as well, although I am starting to notice that the battery charge life is starting to fall off, which is not surprising since I've been using it for about a year and a half now, and I bought it as a refurb.
Have always run Cloudy G3 (ported for G2) which AFAIK has a custom kernel (Cloudy kernel) which I believe has helped out. Never really had any trouble getting through the entire day, but don't run the screen with more brightness than needed. SOT has always been good, usually at least 4hrs. If I know that I'm going to push it more than that I bring along a portable battery charger. There are some good ones sold on eBay of 10,000+ mah which priced around $15.
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I was referring to the G4 there, which is newly refurbished with new battery, I believe. However, my G2's have always been pretty good as well, although I am starting to notice that the battery charge life is starting to fall off, which is not surprising since I've been using it for about a year and a half now, and I bought it as a refurb.
Have always run Cloudy G3 (ported for G2) which AFAIK has a custom kernel (Cloudy kernel) which I believe has helped out. Never really had any trouble getting through the entire day, but don't run the screen with more brightness than needed. SOT has always been good, usually at least 4hrs. If I know that I'm going to push it more than that I bring along a portable battery charger. There are some good ones sold on eBay of 10,000+ mah which priced around $15.
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My G2 drains about 1% per per minute with the screen on, so now is basically like a tinny laptop, have to carry the charger around with me all the time. CM13 and Cloudy didn't help at all, it's just gone.
Still on the G4, I'm just coming from the G4 subforum... major issues with that phone, aparently a lot of them have a faulty motherboard and there is a huge possibility the phone will die in less than a year. http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-admits-g4-bootloop-problem-hardware-fault-669603/
I'm currently looking at this one, I've been interested on it since it was announced. http://www.alcatelonetouch.us/idol-4s-5-inch-vr-smartphone
$350 is just an insane bargain and it's probably a better phone than the OP3, even with the slightly less powerful SD650. I would end my search for a new phone if I could find the same deal here in Europe but so far I'm seeing it selling fro over €400 which is a major difference. For €50 or €60 more one can already get a brand new S7 which is meh but we know is a solid phone on all camps.
In Germany you have to pay 759€ for the version with 32GB.
Sorry Google but I just did something I thought I'd never do: buy a Nexus from last year instead buying the very best Google has to offer.
For 245€ I got a 32 GB Nexus 5x. A good upgrade form my 16GB Nexus 4 which I loved so much.
Sure, I get it: let's just price the Pixel nearly the same as an iPhone 7 but for a company that's doing 'its very own phone' (hello HTC) for the first time this price is just nuts.
I am so angry atm but I really want to hear your opinion on pricing. Except daydream VR this phone has simply nothing that stands out from the competition and now please don't come with the 'best camera in any smartphone'. I have waited for a big nexus upgrade for years now and I can't believe that this is ruined by a price that's beyond good and evil. I kinda waited the whole time for 'one more thing'.....the pixel will support Andromeda via USB type C in the future or something similar but no.
BIG DISAPPOINTMENT.
Very happy that I got a Nexus 5x now so cheap!
I totally agree. I've been waiting for an upgrade to the Nexus 5 for years and Google have blown it with this crazy price. :crying:
I bet the pixel won't even run as well as the Nexus 5 in the good old days of kit kat and for double the price. WTF, Google. Apart from doze, it's all been down hill since kit kat.
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I totally agree. I've been waiting for an upgrade to the Nexus 5 for years and Google have blown it with this crazy price. :crying:
I bet the pixel won't even run as well as the Nexus 5 in the good old days of kit kat and for double the price. WTF, Google. Apart from doze, it's all been down hill since kit kat.
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You'll love the 5X if you are coming from the Nexus 5 (Specially because of the Fingerprint sensor). But I must confess the only cons is the RAM. Nexus 5 have much more free ram because it's android x86. The 5X consumes much more ram and, hence, it redraws more apps.
Also, the hi frequency of the cores in the N5 sometimes gives a good boost of performance, but that's more personal, and I still prefer 5X's SoC, because the 5's SoC used to thermal throttle and decrease performance often in summer.
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You'll love the 5X if you are coming from the Nexus 5 (Specially because of the Fingerprint sensor). But I must confess the only cons is the RAM. Nexus 5 have much more free ram because it's android x86. The 5X consumes much more ram and, hence, it redraws more apps.
Also, the hi frequency of the cores in the N5 sometimes gives a good boost of performance, but that's more personal, and I still prefer 5X's SoC, because the 5's SoC used to thermal throttle and decrease performance often in summer.
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I was burnt by the low ram on the Nexus 9 so I'm giving the 5x a miss. It will be the one plus 3 or a Nexus 6p if I see one at the right price. Thanks for the suggestion seb. :highfive:
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You'll love the 5X if you are coming from the Nexus 5 (Specially because of the Fingerprint sensor). But I must confess the only cons is the RAM. Nexus 5 have much more free ram because it's android x86. The 5X consumes much more ram and, hence, it redraws more apps.
Also, the hi frequency of the cores in the N5 sometimes gives a good boost of performance, but that's more personal, and I still prefer 5X's SoC, because the 5's SoC used to thermal throttle and decrease performance often in summer.
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N5 is not x86 its arm.
tohtorin said:
N5 is not x86 its arm.
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You re right I tend to confuse x86 with 32-bit. I'd meant 32-bit
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Here in Germany it starts at 759,00 € or $851.37.
I think it would be cheaper to buy it in the US and pay the taxes.
Bummer that the pixel is so expensive. On the other hand though, Google allows you to finance the phone so I MAY do that. $649 up front is too much, but $27/month is fine.
I'm very interested in the new google assistant because I use google now a lot. Also, I use google photos as well so the free unlimited storage is very enticing.
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Bummer that the pixel is so expensive. On the other hand though, Google allows you to finance the phone so I MAY do that. $649 up front is too much, but $27/month is fine.
I'm very interested in the new google assistant because I use google now a lot. Also, I use google photos as well so the free unlimited storage is very enticing.
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It doesn't look like you can do the financing option in the UK yet.
For anyone in a location in which the financing option is available is it possible to upgrade after a year? One nice thing about the Apple upgrade program is that even though it is a 2 year agreement you can upgrade every year provided you return your old phone in good condition which shouldn't be too hard as it includes accidental damage cover.
Obviously if you only upgrade your phone once every 2 years either would be fine, but I'm a bit worried Google will actually work out twice as expensive as owning an Apple device if you upgrade each year...
$$$ no way Jose
Bought the wife a 5x on sale 6 weeks ago for $199 shipped (new)
I've had a nexus 5 since release in 2013.
Was chomping at the bit for the new Google phone.
Was hoping no more than $499, nope.
So bought a moto g4 plus yesterday for $249.
Only 2 gigs ram and 16 gig storage but has an sd card slot.
Much better looking display than the 5x. 3000 mah battery.
Unless you need a lot of ram for gaming or whatever the moto is a good choice.
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It doesn't look like you can do the financing option in the UK yet.
For anyone in a location in which the financing option is available is it possible to upgrade after a year? One nice thing about the Apple upgrade program is that even though it is a 2 year agreement you can upgrade every year provided you return your old phone in good condition which shouldn't be too hard as it includes accidental damage cover.
Obviously if you only upgrade your phone once every 2 years either would be fine, but I'm a bit worried Google will actually work out twice as expensive as owning an Apple device if you upgrade each year...
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My EXACT thoughts, as well. I recently made the switch away from Android for the first time to see what all the fuss was about with the iPhone 7. So far, I must admit that I am very pleased with the phone. Especially with how seamless it is with my Mac. But I was still anticipating the Pixel launch to see what Google had to offer. The phone itself looks great. But what you mentioned above is the big thing preventing me from returning the iPhone and getting the Pixel phone. With the iPhone, I'm locked in for two years but when the new one comes out next year I just take this one into the Apple store and walk out with the new one. It's a really great concept.
I'm afraid you are right about Google. I imagine if they were going to have an upgrade program, they would have announced it when discussing pricing to help justify the extremely high price point. Without that and with the resale value of these phones being about 50% 12 months after purchasing (based off what I've seen from the recent Nexus phones), the total cost to upgrade to the new Google phone every year just skyrocketed compared to what it used to be with the sub $450 nexus phones.
Because of this I'm having a very hard time trying to justify picking one up. Which is sad considering this will now be the first Nexus (i know... "Pixel") I haven't purchased after initial release.
EDIT: After wasting my afternoon reading tons of articles about the phone and watching the first few "hands on" videos, I decided to bite the bullet and purchase the 5" Pixel (Black, 128GB version). I have 3 more days to return my iPhone 7 for a full refund so it was either do it now or face the possibility of regret and be stuck with this $850 iPhone.
I still think the Pixel is overpriced but it does look to be an extremely solid phone. And I opted for the 128GB version to give myself a little future proofing. I'm planning on holding onto the Pixel for 2 years this time around, rather than making a quick phone jump again next year. This mindset helped me justify the price. Hopefully I can stick to that plan.
The pixel is so average, it has nothing my £300 OnePlus 3 doesn't have. Google's phone is overpriced and about as naff as their new bull**** chat app, Allo. Not impressed. Sub par. And those prices? Google has shot right up the ranks of overpriced **** to join Apple and Samsung. Ludicrous.
another thing I want to mention: Google spoke all the time about how Hardware and Software works together in this phone, especially with the Google assistant but hell, we all know that the assistant has nothing to do with hardware. It's just Android 7.1 and exclusivnes. Plus most of the talked about 'features' were just apps you can get in the playstore.
Another thing: if I buy an iPhone for the same price, I kind of know that I can sell it after like 11month for about 75% of the original price. NOT so with the pixel plus Apple provides the longest software updates. Just remember how freacking long the iPhone 4 was supported..!!
I am happy if my upcoming 5x would get fully featured Android 8. Even now when Android 7.1 seems ready they said that first betas can be expected by the end of the year..??!
I'd suggest the honor 8 if you want a one handed phone that's cheap and great quality
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Bought the wife a 5x on sale 6 weeks ago for $199 shipped (new)
I've had a nexus 5 since release in 2013.
Was chomping at the bit for the new Google phone.
Was hoping no more than $499, nope.
So bought a moto g4 plus yesterday for $249.
Only 2 gigs ram and 16 gig storage but has an sd card slot.
Much better looking display than the 5x. 3000 mah battery.
Unless you need a lot of ram for gaming or whatever the moto is a good choice.
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Me too, bought the Moto G4 Plus for 266 euro`s a week ago and its working perfect for me and has a front firing speaker. I`am never paying more then 400 euro`s tops for a phone again
Everyone moans about the price. No shet its expensive. Its got the latest and greatest hardware in
Same in computing, same in cars
I hate apple with a passion but they do make well put together phones. If this is anything like that of be happy to shell out
Hardly any android phones feel premium. Only one that comes close is the s7edge but that's just because of the screen (which is pretty pointless)
Jesus Christ
Even if you compared stuff like ram I guarantee the ram in the pixel is faster than anything else out all for about a month lol
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Everyone moans about the price. No shet its expensive. Its got the latest and greatest hardware in
Same in computing, same in cars
I hate apple with a passion but they do make well put together phones. If this is anything like that of be happy to shell out
Hardly any android phones feel premium. Only one that comes close is the s7edge but that's just because of the screen (which is pretty pointless)
Jesus Christ
Even if you compared stuff like ram I guarantee the ram in the pixel is faster than anything else out all for about a month lol
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Nexus was never about premium feel. It was nexus just like an iphone is iphone. It was for people who wanted more from their device, who liked to tinker it, play with it. In short having a nexus meant you own your device and at affordable price.
Now with newer, pricier and premium pixel, they may hit new customers who like premium devices, people who change phones faster than seasons change, but they lost their fan base, tinkerers, developers. Most of them are students, young part time workers.
I feel pixel is just an iphone made by google and i m hugely disappointed. It may offer a great experience for user but as an android enthusiast, I don't see it's worth of that much money.
I was really interested in replacing my Honor 6 within the next months, but honestly, with those prices, I think I'll either stick with it, or go buying the Honor 8....
Sorry Google, but this is just too overpriced to be a *good* phone.
Any recommendations for 5" pixel substitute? I need something unlocked but can't don't want to carry anything larger than 5.
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Sorry Google, but this is just too overpriced to be a *good* phone.
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This sentence doesn't make any sense. The price has nothing to do with whether or not it is a "good" phone.
Quite frankly, the more I think about it, the more comfortable I am with the increased pricing. Over the years the Nexus sections of XDA have become overly saturated with kids whose parents bought their ~$350 phones for them and then they flood the Nexus sub-forums expecting to be spoon-fed everything without trying to learn things themselves from the plethora of guides and helpful posts readily available to them. All while refusing to contribute anything worthwhile to the community. It's gotten so bad that spending time in the Nexus forums has me wondering why I even bother anymore. Many developers have expressed the same feelings.
I'm really hoping the increased pricing of the Pixel phones will help keep the kids away and allow the Pixel forums to remain clean and full of people who actually like to contribute. Similar to how it was back in the early Nexus days.
So I've been mentioning a lot and I wound up ordering a new phone, the Nexus 5X. I know I asked in an earlier thread about it, but it meets everything that I am looking for. I got the 32GB variant (new in box) for $220. Not the 16GB, the 32GB from a private seller and negotiated it down.
I was looking for a smaller phone, not to mention I have Sprint so all options are pretty limited. Of course you know my opinion on the Pixel so I'll skip that. I will still keep my Nexus 6 though, I don't have any intention of selling it.....ever.
I looked at the Moto G4 and G4 Plus, but there is little development for it and the flashing process is a bigger pain. I don't mind the plastic build either and wish more phones were like this as I believe they are more durable than the aluminum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MC9Zc7uzd0
If I had GSM, I'd have gotten the One Plus 3. I'll admit the hardware isn't exactly what I want, but the customization is more important for me anyways.
Plus, most phones, your insurance is $100 if not more depending on what you are paying, plus a $70-$80 deductible. So for a potentially refurbished replacement you spent $190 or so.
The guy only had one, but for $220 for a brand new phone that works for me. I've seen some 16GB variants on ebay, but I'm concerned that might be too little space. Overall I'll see how it is, but it's better than paying $649 for a Pixel instead.
I bought the 5x a few months ago and have been using it as my daily driver for a couple months. Still really like my N6 and use it as media device but it's not the most pocketable phone. The 5x is a very good mid-range phone, especially at current prices. The fast fingerprint sensor, USB type C, camera and brighter screen more than make up for the lack of wireless charging and dual front speakers. Overall build quality is very solid. Sound quality is definitely lacking compared to my N6 and idol 3. Highly recommend flashing A.R.I.S.E. if you care about audio quality.
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I bought the 5x a few months ago and have been using it as my daily driver for a couple months. Still really like my N6 and use it as media device but it's not the most pocketable phone. The 5x is a very good mid-range phone, especially at current prices. The fast fingerprint sensor, USB type C, camera and brighter screen more than make up for the lack of wireless charging and dual front speakers. Overall build quality is very solid. Sound quality is definitely lacking compared to my N6 and idol 3. Highly recommend flashing A.R.I.S.E. if you care about audio quality.
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Thanks for the feedback. I know I'd have to take a backseat on the audio and RAM, but I don't mind. I checked my memory usage and I'm usually at 1.5-1.7GB so I don't think the RAM should be an issue. I don't care about the wireless charging since I never use that either. I'm keeping my N6 as a backup, but I'll still use it over WIFI and it's still a good phone......just not out and about so I'll leave it at home.
Looking forward to the 5X. What USB C cords did you end up getting ? I bought some cords, adapters and OTG for the 5X from amazon. I just picked a few that the Benson guy recommended so I'll have to re-do all my cords. For me the customization was more important than the hardware.
The insurance for the phone is another embedded cost...of course you don't have to get it, but most do so it's another cost again.
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Thanks for the feedback. I know I'd have to take a backseat on the audio and RAM, but I don't mind. I checked my memory usage and I'm usually at 1.5-1.7GB so I don't think the RAM should be an issue. I don't care about the wireless charging since I never use that either. I'm keeping my N6 as a backup, but I'll still use it over WIFI and it's still a good phone......just not out and about so I'll leave it at home.
Looking forward to the 5X. What USB C cords did you end up getting ? I bought some cords, adapters and OTG for the 5X from amazon. I just picked a few that the Benson guy recommended so I'll have to re-do all my cords. For me the customization was more important than the hardware.
The insurance for the phone is another embedded cost...of course you don't have to get it, but most do so it's another cost again.
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Haven't had any RAM management issues. Might be an issue with certain games but my usage is mostly music streaming, web browsing, Tapatalk and texting.
Audio through headphone jack and Bluetooth can be quite good with the right settings in Viper. The speaker quality is pretty bad compared to N6 but can be improved with the surround sound mod.
I bought the extra charger from Google store which came with a cable. Also got some Anker type C to micro adapters from Amazon.
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Lol this thread is hilarious cause I sold a 5x(that I got for 200 locally 32gb)
Hated it, it was slow down a lot, the front facing speaker was low and I missed calls, the volume on headset was not something to write home about. went to a 6p and returned cause I felt like the 6p just wasn't worth the 500 I paid for it(great phone though), went to a moto g4 plus and returned(the 617 is what kills that phone) then on cl today just looking around a Nexus 6 came up in great shape for 160 went and grab it and so far I'm liking it. It is big but at the same time it's something unique about it and the fact that it still solid and runs just as good as the 6p I have no complaints so far!
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I think you guys are doing an approach I'm likely to take: Don't get a brand-spanking new phone, but last year's great phone instead for less. The high price of the Pixel has really put me off, so I'm looking at last year's 5x or 6p too. Then next year, when the Pixel XL (or whatever) comes out, get the first Pixel.
At least this way I'll get a newer phone each year for a bit less.
The alternative is to look at the various Chinese phones. Some interesting stuff from Huawei, ZTE, OnePlus, etc. Supposedly premium phones for $300 less than the top Samsung/LG/Pixel phones.
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The alternative is to look at the various Chinese phones. Some interesting stuff from Huawei, ZTE, OnePlus, etc. Supposedly premium phones for $300 less than the top Samsung/LG/Pixel phones.
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That's cool if you're on ATT/Tmo based carriers, but CDMA like Verizon and Sprint have strict rules on which phones will actually activate on the network. OP is on Sprint so no, he can't look at Huawei (except 6p), ZTE, OnePlus, etc...
Currently this is what Sprint will allow on their network:
iPhone 7 (Verizon only)
iPhone 7 Plus (Verizon only)
iPhone SE
iPhone 6s
iPhone 6s Plus
iPhone 6
iPhone 6 Plus
iPhone 5s (Verizon only)
iPhone 5c (Verizon only)
iPad Air 2
iPad Air
iPad Mini 4
iPad Mini 3
iPad Mini 2
iPad Pro
Google Pixel
Google Pixel XL
Nexus 6 (32 & 64 GB – black/white)
Nexus 5 (16 & 32 GB – black/white/red)
Nexus 5X (all versions)
Nexus 6P (all versions)
HTC One A9 (Sprint Version only)
Motorola X Pure Edition (16, 32 & 64 GB – all colors)
Samsung Galaxy S7 Special Edition
Samsung Galaxy S7 edge Special Edition
Moto G4
Moto G4 Plus
I made the decision to forgo the Pixel, so I won't be getting it. That's cool if others gets the phone, but it's not visually appealing and the cost is too high, plus with a phone that expensive you'll need insurance which is another added cost.
If I did not have CDMA, then I'd get the One Plus 3. The ZTE Axon 7 is quite nice as well, but both devices are not accepted on Sprint's network.
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Currently this is what Sprint will allow on their network:
iPhone 7 (Verizon only)
iPhone 7 Plus (Verizon only)
iPhone SE
iPhone 6s
iPhone 6s Plus
iPhone 6
iPhone 6 Plus
iPhone 5s (Verizon only)
iPhone 5c (Verizon only)
iPad Air 2
iPad Air
iPad Mini 4
iPad Mini 3
iPad Mini 2
iPad Pro
Google Pixel
Google Pixel XL
Nexus 6 (32 & 64 GB – black/white)
Nexus 5 (16 & 32 GB – black/white/red)
Nexus 5X (all versions)
Nexus 6P (all versions)
HTC One A9 (Sprint Version only)
Motorola X Pure Edition (16, 32 & 64 GB – all colors)
Samsung Galaxy S7 Special Edition
Samsung Galaxy S7 edge Special Edition
Moto G4
Moto G4 Plus
I made the decision to forgo the Pixel, so I won't be getting it. That's cool if others gets the phone, but it's not visually appealing and the cost is too high, plus with a phone that expensive you'll need insurance which is another added cost.
If I did not have CDMA, then I'd get the One Plus 3. The ZTE Axon 7 is quite nice as well, but both devices are not accepted on Sprint's network.
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I would have gotten a One Plus 3, but I'm on Verizon. Band 13 is only in my area so I don't feel like having 3G all the time lol My wife pre-ordered me a pixel xl 128 for my birthday, my n6 is starting to fritz out on me, so im going to trade it in
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Currently this is what Sprint will allow on their network:
iPhone 7 (Verizon only)
iPhone 7 Plus (Verizon only)
iPhone SE
iPhone 6s
iPhone 6s Plus
iPhone 6
iPhone 6 Plus
iPhone 5s (Verizon only)
iPhone 5c (Verizon only)
iPad Air 2
iPad Air
iPad Mini 4
iPad Mini 3
iPad Mini 2
iPad Pro
Google Pixel
Google Pixel XL
Nexus 6 (32 & 64 GB – black/white)
Nexus 5 (16 & 32 GB – black/white/red)
Nexus 5X (all versions)
Nexus 6P (all versions)
HTC One A9 (Sprint Version only)
Motorola X Pure Edition (16, 32 & 64 GB – all colors)
Samsung Galaxy S7 Special Edition
Samsung Galaxy S7 edge Special Edition
Moto G4
Moto G4 Plus
I made the decision to forgo the Pixel, so I won't be getting it. That's cool if others gets the phone, but it's not visually appealing and the cost is too high, plus with a phone that expensive you'll need insurance which is another added cost.
If I did not have CDMA, then I'd get the One Plus 3. The ZTE Axon 7 is quite nice as well, but both devices are not accepted on Sprint's network.
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Honestly and I'm not being facetious... Please consider switching to T-Mobile. The phone choices are much better, their coverage is way better (ex project Fi customer who got a taste of sprint alongside tmo) and it's only marginally more expensive.
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I would have gotten a One Plus 3, but I'm on Verizon. Band 13 is only in my area so I don't feel like having 3G all the time lol My wife pre-ordered me a pixel xl 128 for my birthday, my n6 is starting to fritz out on me, so im going to trade it in
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That's nice of your wife to pick up the Pixel XL, I hope you enjoy it. I'm kinda of shocked that you only have 1 of 3 bands that Verizon uses. They charge quite a bit compared to T-Mobile and Sprint. I guess I am spoiled that I live in Orange County and work in LA County, so both areas and all of SoCal are pretty much saturated with towers from all the carriers. CDMA does limit things though.
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Honestly and I'm not being facetious... Please consider switching to T-Mobile. The phone choices are much better, their coverage is way better (ex project Fi customer who got a taste of sprint alongside tmo) and it's only marginally more expensive.
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Are you on the old plans, or using the new T-Mobile ONE for $70 ? I've been considering T-Mobile for awhile...............GSM would open up more options.
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That's nice of your wife to pick up the Pixel XL, I hope you enjoy it. I'm kinda of shocked that you only have 1 of 3 bands that Verizon uses. They charge quite a bit compared to T-Mobile and Sprint. I guess I am spoiled that I live in Orange County and work in LA County, so both areas and all of SoCal are pretty much saturated with towers from all the carriers. CDMA does limit things though.
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Verizon just took over a small regional carrier only 18 months ago. I live about an hour north of Yosemite in the mountains. They have been putting up real cell towers compared to the small towers the rc had on water tanks and the sort. I think in the last year Verizon has replaced over 70 cell towers up here.....Sprint has 0 coverage, Tmo only has coverage in the main town down to the central valley. ATT is 2nd in coverage, but I don't have service inside my house, only outside. Verizon prices isn't too bad for their coverage in the mountians, especially when your wife gets an employer discount of 17% (local government employee).
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Verizon just took over a small regional carrier only 18 months ago. I live about an hour north of Yosemite in the mountains. They have been putting up real cell towers compared to the small towers the rc had on water tanks and the sort. I think in the last year Verizon has replaced over 70 cell towers up here.....Sprint has 0 coverage, Tmo only has coverage in the main town down to the central valley. ATT is 2nd in coverage, but I don't have service inside my house, only outside. Verizon prices isn't too bad for their coverage in the mountians, especially when your wife gets an employer discount of 17% (local government employee).
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Interesting. Over here in Big Bear cell reception is totally dead once you get to a certain area. You are just better turning off the phone. Modesto isn't too far from you, does Modesto have signal from all the carriers?
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Interesting. Over here in Big Bear cell reception is totally dead once you get to a certain area. You are just better turning off the phone. Modesto isn't too far from you, does Modesto have signal from all the carriers?
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Modesto is about an 1 hour and 15 min drive, yeah all carriers work there. If you drive about 45 min from where i live, all 4 major carriers have service in Oakdale.
I forgot to share this story, but it was amusing to say the least......................
A few weeks ago, I saw a young college student with a Pixel (smaller). At first it looked like an iPhone, but I took a few glances then realized it did not have the home button and was running Android so it was a Pixel. I asked her if that was the new Pixel phone. She said it was and the scrolling is very smooth with no lag, new software, and she wanted it for the "pure Android" experience and just had to get it.
I said that's great to hear and I know how the lag can be and pulled out my Nexus 6 and showed it to her. She asked me what was Nexus.....she's never heard of it before. I told her it's "pure Android". She gave me a confused look then we parted ways.
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Are you on the old plans, or using the new T-Mobile ONE for $70 ? I've been considering T-Mobile for awhile...............GSM would open up more options.
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I'm on the old 6gb for each person in the family plan. 120+ taxes for 4 lines
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I forgot to share this story, but it was amusing to say the least......................
A few weeks ago, I saw a young college student with a Pixel (smaller). At first it looked like an iPhone, but I took a few glances then realized it did not have the home button and was running Android so it was a Pixel. I asked her if that was the new Pixel phone. She said it was and the scrolling is very smooth with no lag, new software, and she wanted it for the "pure Android" experience and just had to get it.
I said that's great to hear and I know how the lag can be and pulled out my Nexus 6 and showed it to her. She asked me what was Nexus.....she's never heard of it before. I told her it's "pure Android". She gave me a confused look then we parted ways.
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I'm not even surprised that girl didn't even know what a Nexus is, the average shmo' doesn't even know what a Nexus is and I put 100% blame on Google for not using all those billions they have on advertising the Nexus line. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I been asked "what kind of phone is that?" when I've pulled it out in public or at work. I just tell them, they look at me with this confused look like I just spoke to them in a alien language and continue about their business, I just shake my head and curse Google.
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I'm not even surprised that girl didn't even know what a Nexus is, the average shmo' doesn't even know what a Nexus is and I put 100% blame on Google for not using all those billions they have on advertising the Nexus line. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I been asked "what kind of phone is that?" when I've pulled it out in public or at work. I just tell them, they look at me with this confused look like I just spoke to them in a alien language and continue about their business, I just shake my head and curse Google.
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Oh yeah I forgot to mention. She was typing on an apple laptop.
Sad thing is the pixel will be a lot of the main new stream consumer first taste at a stock Android phone.... Also think it's funny how all these big YouTubers didnt like the phone when it was revealed, then pull a 180 saying it's the best phone ever.....if Google wanted to do this I have no problem with it but I have a problem they basically waited three months before release and was like "oh yea the new phone will be called pixel and the price will start at a iphone 7 price tag....." 'oh and the Nexus line is done thank you for all your support"