I've rooted every phone I've ever gotten, mainly for adblockers.
I'm aware Samsung has e-fuses for knox in the past and I had no use for it. However, I'm new to s7 and not sure about private mode or any other new knox feature since note4.
Is there a way to root stock so I can install adblockers but not break knox or other features? What all will break exactly?
Furthermore, is it just root at this time or recoveries too? I don't even want to flash anything, just get root.
I have the master USA race T-Mobile version. I hear so far that it's only the Int'l models that have recoveries atm
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Anything that modifies the kernel will cause the efuse to break including rooting and recoveries because of dm verify.
currently snapdragon S7E can not be rooted effectively because the bootloader is locked and most developers will not touch them for now. Maybe in the future.
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I just ordered my note3 sm-n9005 on sunday (should arrive thursday). and I was wondering what the current best method to root it without invalidating warranty / tripping knox. and installing xposed?
if there isn't support for loading a third party boot loader without tripping knox, what's the best way to back up my system image?
how can I go about restoring it if i seriously mess something up?
can i do a full wipe and restore without a third party boot loader?
can i do a factory restore using external means like odin without tripping knox / invalidating my warranty?
also, does anybody happen to know why samsung abandoned the *REALLY* nice design arrangement of the menu keys being a row of capacitive touch buttons across the bottom of the phone as seen on the galaxy s, s2, original note, and original samsung galaxy tab? - i've had several of these devices (i'm currently upgrading from an original note to a note 3), and I loved the row of capacitive touch keys vs the (pretty dumb imho) physical menu key (that can be easily broken or stuck). for a key you press a billion times a day over 2+ years it occurs to me that you should have something that has minimal mechanical movement to preserve it's functionality. </rant> - but seriously, why?
I know these all sound like n00b questions, but knox threw a wrench into my understanding of how to do this right. on my note i717 i can easily flash stock and twrp via odin, use twrp to back up the system (if and whenever i'd like), and install any compatible rom i please without additional implications... I really wish that the note 3 were that flexible. (and that there were more devs working on software for note 3... I'd really like to see ubuntu touch dual booting on a phone this awesome.).
So, before the phone arrives, you have plenty of time to educate yourself. There are thousands of threads regarding this topic.
Google and XDA are your friends.
Sent from my SM-N9005
first of all do not do any ota updates if you do like i did you can not root without tripping knox..if your lucky and your note comes with an early firmware you have a chance of rooting and not tripping knox.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487916
it all depends on what bootloader you have.but as far as i understand it you can not use twrp or cwm without tripping knox
cpgeek said:
I just ordered my note3 sm-n9005 on sunday (should arrive thursday). and I was wondering what the current best method to root it without invalidating warranty / tripping knox. and installing xposed?
if there isn't support for loading a third party boot loader without tripping knox, what's the best way to back up my system image?
how can I go about restoring it if i seriously mess something up?
can i do a full wipe and restore without a third party boot loader?
can i do a factory restore using external means like odin without tripping knox / invalidating my warranty?
also, does anybody happen to know why samsung abandoned the *REALLY* nice design arrangement of the menu keys being a row of capacitive touch buttons across the bottom of the phone as seen on the galaxy s, s2, original note, and original samsung galaxy tab? - i've had several of these devices (i'm currently upgrading from an original note to a note 3), and I loved the row of capacitive touch keys vs the (pretty dumb imho) physical menu key (that can be easily broken or stuck). for a key you press a billion times a day over 2+ years it occurs to me that you should have something that has minimal mechanical movement to preserve it's functionality. </rant> - but seriously, why?
I know these all sound like n00b questions, but knox threw a wrench into my understanding of how to do this right. on my note i717 i can easily flash stock and twrp via odin, use twrp to back up the system (if and whenever i'd like), and install any compatible rom i please without additional implications... I really wish that the note 3 were that flexible. (and that there were more devs working on software for note 3... I'd really like to see ubuntu touch dual booting on a phone this awesome.).
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I bought my device used and was informed that it has the latest ota kitkat updates per about 2 weeks ago. is root not a possibility in this case at all?
you can root if it's still 4.3 but you can not do it without tripping knox...which is the same possition i'm in..my advice is hold off doing any updates or trying to root for a few weeks ...maybe somebody will find a new exploit
cpgeek said:
I bought my device used and was informed that it has the latest ota kitkat updates per about 2 weeks ago. is root not a possibility in this case at all?
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decardpain said:
you can root if it's still 4.3 but you can not do it without tripping knox...which is the same possition i'm in..my advice is hold off doing any updates or trying to root for a few weeks ...maybe somebody will find a new exploit
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is there anything that I can't do if i trigger knox (besides sending my phone to samsung's warranty service). does selinux still work properly if knox is triggered? what's the feature actually FOR (besides voiding warranty)?
cpgeek said:
I just ordered my note3 sm-n9005 on sunday (should arrive thursday). and I was wondering what the current best method to root it without invalidating warranty / tripping knox. and installing xposed?
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I might come a little late - but you seem to be on AT&T - are you certain that N9005 is what you wanted? My feeling was that the T-Mobile version was the only other one (than AT&Ts own, which has locked bootloader, while TMo does not) that could do LTE on AT&T, but I might be wrong
See also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile
xclub_101 said:
I might come a little late - but you seem to be on AT&T - are you certain that N9005 is what you wanted? My feeling was that the T-Mobile version was the only other one (than AT&Ts own, which has locked bootloader, while TMo does not) that could do LTE on AT&T, but I might be wrong
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile
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yes, i'm on at&t and it's the sm-n9005 that should arrive at my door tomorrow. the n9005 literature i've read says it is lte enabled, and from what i understand is exactly the same hardware that at&t's own variant uses chip for chip. why would there be a problem... and even if it does come down to it, can't i just flash the at&t modem and be done with it?
You cannot Flash t-mobile modem on a att n9005 and vice versa. Samsung now =dictator, your freedom is slowly becoming....
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yes, i'm on at&t and it's the sm-n9005 that should arrive at my door tomorrow. the n9005 literature i've read says it is lte enabled, and from what i understand is exactly the same hardware that at&t's own variant uses chip for chip. why would there be a problem... and even if it does come down to it, can't i just flash the at&t modem and be done with it?
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You will be very surprised
First things on the N9005 - disable security updates and reject any OTA updates, then check your existing firmware. Read in this forum and specifically in the AT&T forum if you can make things work, if you want to root read about knox and warranty.
I recently purchased a new samsung s4 i9505 and it came pre installed with the knox bootloader. i have previosuly owned a samsung device when knox did not exist and rom flashing was good fun.
i understand if i decide to flash roms , then knox will void my warranty.
apart from that is thier any other concerns which i should make note off should i go down the route of flashing custom roms? also, is it still worth it to flash custom roms for improved performance? or has samsung's own firmware become good enough?
You won't receive any more OTA updates from Samsung. Not that there are any for the S4 anymore..
I believe custom roms still offer better performance than touchwiz.
Driver15 said:
I recently purchased a new samsung s4 i9505 and it came pre installed with the knox bootloader. i have previosuly owned a samsung device when knox did not exist and rom flashing was good fun.
i understand if i decide to flash roms , then knox will void my warranty.
apart from that is thier any other concerns which i should make note off should i go down the route of flashing custom roms? also, is it still worth it to flash custom roms for improved performance? or has samsung's own firmware become good enough?
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Flashing roms via ODIN don't void your warranty. Flashing custom recovery, yes.
GDReaper said:
You won't receive any more OTA updates from Samsung. Not that there are any for the S4 anymore..
I believe custom roms still offer better performance than touchwiz.
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thanks for the reply.
My phone came out of the box with 4.4.2 pre installed. I have had a notification for OTA update which i believe would likely be 5.0 lollipop. However, i thought i would withold until i can understand any advanatages on my current firmware.
i seem to be bothered by the slight lag and stutter on my current os, i hope that the world of flashing roms would resolve this but there seems to be a large variety of roms available, which would you recommend, although i plan on randomly selecting a few.
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Flashing roms via ODIN don't void your warranty. Flashing custom recovery, yes.
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Thanks for the headsup, would i still be able to flash a custom kernel without voiding warranty? or is that out the question due to be on a locked bootloader?
If you have a locked bootloader you either have an AT&T or Verizon S4. The locked bootloader makes root virtually impossible, so you wouldn't be flashing much of anything. There are ways to work around the bootloader in the AT&T and Verizon S4 forums.
With that out the way, a custom kernel will trip Knox as the custom kernel changes SEAndroid from Enforcing to Permissive.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
If you have a locked bootloader you either have an AT&T or Verizon S4. The locked bootloader makes root virtually impossible, so you wouldn't be flashing much of anything. There are ways to work around the bootloader in the AT&T and Verizon S4 forums.
With that out the way, a custom kernel will trip Knox as the custom kernel changes SEAndroid from Enforcing to Permissive.
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I have a uk version of the samsung s4 so i am asuming that i dont have a locked bootloader. is thier any way of checking to be sure that i dont have a locked bootloader?
Sure. Check Download Mode. As long as you don't have either of the following model numbers you should be good to go: SGH-I337, SCH-I545.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Sure. Check Download Mode. As long as you don't have either of the following model numbers you should be good to go: SGH-I337, SCH-I545.
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ive entered download mode but thier does not seem to be any mention of the bootloader version?.
Bootloader version is irrelevant. Unless you have one of the two devices mentioned in my previous post, your bootloader is unlocked. Going into Download Mode will give you the model number of your S4.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Bootloader version is irrelevant. Unless you have one of the two devices mentioned in my previous post, your bootloader is unlocked. Going into Download Mode will give you the model number of your S4.
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thanks for the clarifying. So in summary i can flash roms and kernels freely without issues , regardless of my phone coming with the knox bootloader from factory on 4.4.2.
It definetly is not linked with either network AT&T or Verizon
So the only issue i will face is the chance of tripping knox.
Knox is the only thing you have to deal with. So flash away.
Mods, if this thread is in the wrong category, feel free to move it.
I'm new to Android and come from years of using jailbroken iOS. I am so happy with how much Android allows you to do without rooting, but there are things which do require root and they are things I'm interested in.
I've been researching all over the web about the root methods available for my S7 Edge. I have the International variant (Exynos) and I've read about systemless root, Kingsroot, CF-root, etc. In some places it said these wouldn't trip the Knox counter, other said it would. I've come to the conclusion, in the end, that there's no root method for the S7 Edge which doesn't trip the counter.
My question is, am I wrong? Is there, actually and to this day, a way to root my device without voiding my warranty?
Any guidance here is appreciated. Thanks a lot.
Dont want to be a ****, but there are many topics discussing this.
In short:
Rooting trips knox counter = you loose knox forever.
In most countries this voids your warranty. In UK its not that bad, i know people having their phone replaced when rooted + on custom ROM.
But yes technically you loose warranty, so think twice
I understand, I just wanted to have an up-to-date response since opinions seemed to be all over the place.
Thanks a lot though
Hi, and thanks for reading. i would like to know if theres a way of rooting the celphone Samsung Galaxy J3 SM-J320VPP. ive see Threads on sucefully rooting others models but not this one
I agree any dev out there want to let me know what you might possibly need in order to begin to exploit the boot loader. I know that the Samsung n4 fix is for a different chipset but there has to be a way to bypass Verizon's DMV so I can dump the boot loader and system and upload it for the community. I really really like this phone for its price point and I don't feel like that it should be let to the side because it's not a flagship. I'm not a dev but I'm also not new to the capabilities of this community. Any Assistance would be great
My issue is somewhat different, I have a banking app that reports my J3 as rooted (no other apps do) and I need a way to reverse or work around this flaw. The banking app does state for Galaxy S5 model that Android 6 Marshmallow is needed and I know I'm only on 5.1.1, but I'm not sure if the kernel and baseband used are the same.
Any help or advice appreciated. Or if I can root, update to 6 and then unroot to resolve this.
Any news? Just bought this phone on Verizon
No rooting so far. Kingo- and Kingroot APKs and PC versions fail to root, no custom recovery to flash SuperSU, and no vulnerabilities to exploit. I've had this phone for about 5 months now, and nothing sticks. But that's the way it goes with Verizon- branded devices - because the boot loader is locked there isn't much that can be done. The most I've been able to do is "convert" it to a SM-J320V by flashing that firmware via Odin. Still can't use non-Verizon SIMs though.
209pcs said:
No rooting so far. Kingo- and Kingroot APKs and PC versions fail to root, no custom recovery to flash SuperSU, and no vulnerabilities to exploit. I've had this phone for about 5 months now, and nothing sticks. But that's the way it goes with Verizon- branded devices - because the boot loader is locked there isn't much that can be done. The most I've been able to do is "convert" it to a SM-J320V by flashing that firmware via Odin. Still can't use non-Verizon SIMs though.
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Does converting it allow you to use Verizon MVNO Sims without paying the ransom for a month of verizon prepaid service first to activate the phone ? I know you said no non Verizon sims but nkt sure if you meant MVNO too
I have an unlocked S8 (G950U1) that I bought directly from Samsung and activated on my Sprint service in the US. There doesnt seem to be much activity in the ROMs section for Sprint so Im wondering if I am able to root and install recovery/ROMs on this device? Will it still work on the Sprint network? Its been a while since Ive messed around with rooting a phone (last time was S3/S4) and things are a lot different these days. Im not looking to do anything crazy, just be able to remove some bloat or install a ROM that has bloat removed. Im assuming Knox will get tripped with a custom recovery, so will that break security (fingerprint/face) and NFC pay apps?
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I have an unlocked S8 (G950U1) that I bought directly from Samsung and activated on my Sprint service in the US. There doesnt seem to be much activity in the ROMs section for Sprint so Im wondering if I am able to root and install recovery/ROMs on this device? Will it still work on the Sprint network? Its been a while since Ive messed around with rooting a phone (last time was S3/S4) and things are a lot different these days. Im not looking to do anything crazy, just be able to remove some bloat or install a ROM that has bloat removed. Im assuming Knox will get tripped with a custom recovery, so will that break security (fingerprint/face) and NFC pay apps?
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There is a root method and 1 rom look in dev sections
partcyborg rom 950u:good:
Also said root method can be a little overwhelming there will be errors along the way bust most are ok and normal read the whole thread Op several times....
As we have locked bootloaders we have to use an engineering kernel which is as well bl locked and we can only charge to 80% but it is a wonderful 80% that will most agreed beat stock SOTs