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SE Android

I just read today about the new SE Android put together by the NSA and was curious to know a little more about it, it sounds like an interesting project.
First I was wondering if any developers plan to put together ROMs for our phone using this and second, what would be the benefit, if any, for us using SE Android? Near as I can tell this is best for people that just want to click and download apps from the market without ever really finding out what they do, what info they access, etc... If that is truly the only benefit here then it seems like it's not really that interesting of a topic.
Any feedback from devs (or non-devs) would be appreciated, I am very curious.

From the SELinux Project Page
http://selinuxproject.org/page/SEAndroid
Techworld
http://news.techworld.com/security/3330932/nsa-releases-security-enhanced-version-of-android/
ZDNet
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/nsa-releases-security-enhanced-android-os/10108
I looked at XDA as well and it looks like there may be a ROM for the Thunderbolt as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1447429
Sorry about not previously providing links. I just figured that devs would be more in the know than I and would have already heard if something was out there.
edit: looks like it's not actually a ROM for the thunderbolt yet, just talk of someone developing it at this point.

This should build just fine since we're cm7 official
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I'd be skeptical of anything from the NSA. It could make their job of "intercepting", 100% easier. That's not coming anywhere near anything I own.
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azyouthinkeyeiz said:
I'd be skeptical of anything from the NSA. It could make their job of "intercepting", 100% easier. That's not coming anywhere near anything I own.
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indeed. NSA. I uninstalled it, and got probs with sending sms, They simply don't send after uninstalling that seandroid app. There's that everending waving blue circle pointer. However, uninstalling got me rid of the grey triangle notification message called 'Detect information'.
anyone seen this message too ? What did you do to get rid of it ? OR what did you do to get rid of the app from NSA ?
ugothakd> This should build just fine since we're cm7 official
What on earth are you talking about. I don't see the OP mentioning in his post that he's using CM7 official. For sure I am not.

[Q] Google-free custom ROM?

I've always been a diehard google fanatic & evangelist, but some of the recent bad press has left me disillusioned with the company and eager to break off all possible ties. To that end, is there a custom ROM for the Nexus 7 that would allow me to uninstall all or most google products - and preferably block all traffic to google's servers?

filthyhandbag said:
I've always been a diehard google fanatic & evangelist, but some of the recent bad press has left me disillusioned with the company and eager to break off all possible ties. To that end, is there a custom ROM for the Nexus 7 that would allow me to uninstall all or most google products - and preferably block all traffic to google's servers?
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sure. just build it from scratch, from aosp. dont add anything google, no google apps, no market, no sync, none of googles services.. kinda odd getting a nexus device and not wanting googles services. what bad press btw?

Tax
simms22 said:
sure. just build it from scratch, from aosp. dont add anything google, no google apps, no market, no sync, none of googles services.. kinda odd getting a nexus device and not wanting googles services. what bad press btw?
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I'm English and its tax arrangements (which were revealed after I bought the Nexus 7) disgust me.
Building from AOSP is too complex for a non-developer like me. Is there not a ROM that makes it possible to pare back google services to a minimum? If not, which ROM carries the fewest google services?

BrianXP7 said:
It's more straightforward to flash any ROM that suggests a Google Apps package, but without flashing it. I think rebuilding it from source sounds a little extreme. (Considering the long download times.)
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I'm confused. How would I flash a ROM without flashing it?

filthyhandbag said:
I'm English and its tax arrangements (which were revealed after I bought the Nexus 7) disgust me.
Building from AOSP is too complex for a non-developer like me. Is there not a ROM that makes it possible to pare back google services to a minimum? If not, which ROM carries the fewest google services?
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Get over yourself and get a grip on reality.
EVERY company, big and small, uses tax loopholes. I can't believe you're taking a moral stand and denying yourself full functionality of a device you have already paid for, you are the only loser in this scenario, Google don't lose anything.
If you don't want Google services then don't log in with your Google account, or any email account.
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nodstuff said:
Get over yourself and get a grip on reality.
EVERY company, big and small, uses tax loopholes. I can't believe you're taking a moral stand and denying yourself full functionality of a device you have already paid for, you are the only loser in this scenario, Google don't lose anything.
If you don't want Google services then don't log in with your Google account, or any email account.
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Are you mad? I briefly answered a simple question. Is there any particular reason for your itch to harangue me about a consumer decision? I'm well aware of how corporations operate. Are you ignorant of how consumption and markets work?

lol @ this thread.

jayochs said:
lol @ this thread.
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I should have known better than to give any background info. My question should have been:
"Is there any ROM with no or minimal google services?"

BrianXP7 said:
It's more straightforward to flash any ROM that suggests a Google Apps package, but without flashing it. I think rebuilding it from source sounds a little extreme. (Considering the long download times.)
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filthyhandbag said:
I'm English and its tax arrangements (which were revealed after I bought the Nexus 7) disgust me.
Building from AOSP is too complex for a non-developer like me. Is there not a ROM that makes it possible to pare back google services to a minimum? If not, which ROM carries the fewest google services?
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what Brian is saying is that many roms have a separate flashable package of google apps. you can flash one of these roms(like rasbean jelly, or cm) and not flash the separate gapps(google apps package). then you can go into your file system, /system/app/, and remove more google services(some might be needed, so it would be a trial and error of what you can remove). the end results might be rather unusable as a mobile device.
but nodstuff was right, you would be the only loser in this scenario. if you dont want anything to do with google, you should sell your device and buy something else. you would be better off. after all, arent you the most important in this scenario?

simms22 said:
what Brian is saying is that many roms have a separate flashable package of google apps. you can flash one of these roms(like rasbean jelly, or cm) and not flash the separate gapps(google apps package). then you can go into your file system, /system/app/, and remove more google services(some might be needed, so it would be a trial and error of what you can remove). the end results might be rather unusable as a mobile device.
but nodstuff was right, you would be the only loser in this scenario. if you dont want anything to do with google, you should sell your device and buy something else. you would be better off. after all, arent you the most important in this scenario?
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I see it differently, while wanting to hang onto a device whose format and build I'm fond of. But as I've suggested, I've not come here to debate the issue - just to seek out a ROM that suits my needs.
Thanks for your clarification over the flashing process. I'll see how far I can get.

filthyhandbag said:
I see it differently, while wanting to hang onto a device whose format and build I'm fond of. But as I've suggested, I've not come here to debate the issue - just to seek out a ROM that suits my needs.
Thanks for your clarification over the flashing process. I'll see how far I can get.
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no problem with that, its your device
anyways, if you do delete something that youre not supposed to out of /sytem/app/ and your device wont work, you can always reflash the rom to get it up again. or you can make a backup in your recovery, then restore it if things go wrong.

Righteous. Right.
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Don't feed the trolls!
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AZKJS said:
Don't feed the trolls!
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Amen brother.....
.....I'm hungry.
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Wouldn't webOS do that when/if it's finally released?
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You could try the buggy Ubuntu that would be Google free but I just don't understand what Google could have done, to make you hinder your own device by choice
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rcarnes911 said:
You could try the buggy Ubuntu that would be Google free but I just don't understand what Google could have done, to make you hinder your own device by choice
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Exactly.
Bit if you dont want any google services just flash a custom rom (like cyanogenmod por something) and dont flash the gapps. Than you dont login with your google account and maybe delete or freeze the google services with titanium backup. This seems me the easiest way to do it.

JanJansen024 said:
Exactly.
Bit if you dont want any google services just flash a custom rom (like cyanogenmod por something) and dont flash the gapps. Than you dont login with your google account and maybe delete or freeze the google services with titanium backup. This seems me the easiest way to do it.
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Without playstore.....installing titanium backup or anything will be painful! Lol
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Return it and buy an ipad. Hopefully Apple is not as gross as Goggle on the tax issues you have recently learned about.

ProblemChyld said:
Return it and buy an ipad. Hopefully Apple is not as gross as Goggle on the tax issues you have recently learned about.
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Lol every company hides money off shore Google just had some one write an article about it
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GEL (Google Experience Launcher) and 4.4

Where is it for Nexus 7 2013? Will it be in the factory build? Is it going to be available for download separately from the store?
I find it odd that with all of the push to eliminate fragmentation it's not included.

codahq said:
Where is it for Nexus 7 2013? Will it be in the factory build? Is it going to be available for download separately from the store?
I find it odd that with all of the push to eliminate fragmentation it's not included.
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Google Experience Launcher was intended to be Nexus 5 specific. It will not be included in official Nexus 7 images.

http://www.lmbtfy.com/?q=Google+experience+launcher+nexus+7

Paten said:
Blah,blah url. The forum won't let me post links.
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Who cares what google search comes back with? Guessing/speculation/your mom talking about cats. The reason I posted here is because people who tend to know what they're doing come to xda for news/know-how.
Is the missing launcher really a bi-product of optimization and the always listening feature? Or is the GEL launcher going to be available on the store? Maybe you don't know but that doesn't mean that a developer or somebody else doesn't know.

codahq said:
Who cares what google search comes back with? Guessing/speculation/your mom talking about cats. The reason I posted here is because people who tend to know what they're doing come to xda for news/know-how.
Is the missing launcher really a bi-product of optimization and the always listening feature? Or is the GEL launcher going to be available on the store? Maybe you don't know but that doesn't mean that a developer or somebody else doesn't know.
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Yeah. God forbid you should do a little research on your own. That's why everyone comes here, to spoon feed you information so you don't have to look it up yourself.
BTW: It was bing search. I thought it was quite witty to use bing to search for information about Google. I guess I'm not as funny as I thought I was.

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Yeah. God forbid you should do a little research on your own. That's why everyone comes here, to spoon feed you information so you don't have to look it up yourself.
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Despite the reputation that xda has for people who know what they're talking about there's still you. Research would imply that there is information elsewhere that:
A. I care about.
B. exists.
4.4 for Nexus 7 2013 is a few hours old. I already said I don't care about speculation. Stop being an ass. The first thing I did was google this and when nothing was found I started a post. Did you do any research before you posted that link? Read the first four pages of results. Read the first 100 pages of results. There's no links to statements from google or any developer anywhere that has looked into anything. Instead there's a bunch of people who all regurgitate information, whether cited or not from The Verge, who also don't cite a source. They just say vaguely that Google told them. Right... because Google talks to The Verge and The Verge exclusively.
Let me change the question for you. Don't answer it. It's clear you're just a moron. This is for somebody else.
Is there really a hardware reason to exclude the Google Experience Launcher? Does anybody know if GEL really uses anything from the 800 or is Google just running a trial on the N5 users?
In addition, has anybody seen whether or not somebody has tried to take the apk from a Nexus 5 and run it on a Nexus 7?

codahq said:
Despite the reputation that xda has for people who know what they're talking about there's still you. Research would imply that there is information elsewhere that:
A. I care about.
B. exists.
4.4 for Nexus 7 2013 is a few hours old. I already said I don't care about speculation. Stop being an ass. The first thing I did was google this and when nothing was found I started a post. Did you do any research before you posted that link? Read the first four pages of results. Read the first 100 pages of results. There's no links to statements from google or any developer anywhere that has looked into anything. Instead there's a bunch of people who all regurgitate information, whether cited or not from The Verge, who also don't cite a source. They just say vaguely that Google told them. Right... because Google talks to The Verge and The Verge exclusively.
Let me change the question for you. Don't answer it. It's clear you're just a moron. This is for somebody else.
Is there really a hardware reason to exclude the Google Experience Launcher? Does anybody know if GEL really uses anything from the 800 or is Google just running a trial on the N5 users?
In addition, has anybody seen whether or not somebody has tried to take the apk from a Nexus 5 and run it on a Nexus 7?
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Your Google Fu sucks. You obviously don't know how to use a search engine. I may be a moron but I'm smarter then you. So there's that.

Paten said:
Your Google Fu sucks. You obviously don't know how to use a search engine. I may be a moron but I'm smarter then you. So there's that.
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So you're a moron and a liar? There's no statement from Google about it or you would have posted it. There's no information about whether or not the speculated functionality of the snapdragon 800 is really required for GEL's always listening either. You didn't find anything in Google (or Bing. I thought you were just being stupid).
If you found anything... anything at all, post it. I will take even your information gladly.

codahq said:
Is there really a hardware reason to exclude the Google Experience Launcher? Does anybody know if GEL really uses anything from the 800 or is Google just running a trial on the N5 users?
In addition, has anybody seen whether or not somebody has tried to take the apk from a Nexus 5 and run it on a Nexus 7?
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Those first builds of 4.4 that came around when the Nexus 5 was launched actually had the whole GEL. the only problem was the keyboard would pop up when you went back to the homescreen, but other than that, it was working fine, so the only reason I can see as to why they would have left it out of the tablet would be to give the Nexus 5 some more bullet points on its feature list than other products out there.

DaemonAshra said:
Those first builds of 4.4 that came around when the Nexus 5 was launched actually had the whole GEL. the only problem was the keyboard would pop up when you went back to the homescreen, but other than that, it was working fine, so the only reason I can see as to why they would have left it out of the tablet would be to give the Nexus 5 some more bullet points on its feature list than other products out there.
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Interesting. So... chances are we'll have a unofficial version floating around in no-time. Did you have any hands on with those first builds? Did the always on functionality seem to impact battery life adversely? Thanks in advance!

codahq said:
Where is it for Nexus 7 2013? Will it be in the factory build? Is it going to be available for download separately from the store?
I find it odd that with all of the push to eliminate fragmentation it's not included.
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I find it very troubling too. Especially when we didn't get the new look either. Nothing a little Nova Beta can't fix!

codahq said:
Interesting. So... chances are we'll have a unofficial version floating around in no-time. Did you have any hands on with those first builds? Did the always on functionality seem to impact battery life adversely? Thanks in advance!
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I didn't take any time to tear into the build and tinker with it, but if there was any battery impact, it was too small to notice. I was still getting days of use. Even though the keyboard thing wasn't fixed in that build, maybe now that official builds are out and about, it can be fixed and sideloaded. I mean, all it was was a install of Google Play Services, the Launcher and the latest Google Search. Hopefully it won't be too hard to package those up and have them working soon.
thetechaddict10 said:
I find it very troubling too. Especially when we didn't get the new look either. Nothing a little Nova Beta can't fix!
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HEY!!!
Are you saying those sexy greyish icons up top AREN'T enough?!

codahq said:
Interesting. So... chances are we'll have a unofficial version floating around in no-time. Did you have any hands on with those first builds? Did the always on functionality seem to impact battery life adversely? Thanks in advance!
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There's already unofficial builds running around. I'm running it on my N7 with 4.4 right now. Still has the keyboard bug though.
All I had to do was install the launcher APK from Android Police and boom, GEL.

DaemonAshra said:
I didn't take any time to tear into the build and tinker with it, but if there was any battery impact, it was too small to notice. I was still getting days of use. Even though the keyboard thing wasn't fixed in that build, maybe now that official builds are out and about, it can be fixed and sideloaded. I mean, all it was was a install of Google Play Services, the Launcher and the latest Google Search. Hopefully it won't be too hard to package those up and have them working soon.
HEY!!!
Are you saying those sexy greyish icons up top AREN'T enough?!
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Thank you for the information. Sounds like I should wait a few days and check back in.

DaemonAshra said:
I didn't take any time to tear into the build and tinker with it, but if there was any battery impact, it was too small to notice. I was still getting days of use. Even though the keyboard thing wasn't fixed in that build, maybe now that official builds are out and about, it can be fixed and sideloaded. I mean, all it was was a install of Google Play Services, the Launcher and the latest Google Search. Hopefully it won't be too hard to package those up and have them working soon.
HEY!!!
Are you saying those sexy greyish icons up top AREN'T enough?!
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As far as aesthetics go, no, changing the color of the notification bar text and icons wasn't enough. At all. Considering we didn't get the transparent notification bar or the new app drawer icon. I'm getting my fix of those two with Nova Beta though. Gets me all of those things, plus it's pretty stable.

thetechaddict10 said:
As far as aesthetics go, no, changing the color of the notification bar text and icons wasn't enough. At all. Considering we didn't get the transparent notification bar or the new app drawer icon. I'm getting my fix of those two with Nova Beta though. Gets me all of those things, plus it's pretty stable.
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Yeah I was more being sarcastic. Even though I was more looking forward to just having a bit more stability in everything I use the tablet for, I can't say I wasn't a little bit disappointed not having a very obvious "New Update Day!" feature to have fun with. And if Action Launcher wasn't the most overpowered launcher out there, I might use Nova. I just can't get over that Quick Panel. its too useful

Massive Google Search 3.1.8 Update Rolling Out, Brings Google Experience Launcher To All 4.1+ Devices, New Cards, Completely Fixes GEL On Tablets, And More [APK Download]
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Happy now?

Spyr0s said:
Happy now?
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I had a feeling thats what why they didnt include it...

Im using a 4.4 ROM on my nexus4 with gel and i tell you, dont havê battery issue, or fast drain...its quite normal in fact...
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Will the Nexus 6P see Multirom compatibility soon?

Hey gang,
I was a flashaholic for a long period of time with my nexus 5. Got much worse when Multirom was released for it. I'm assuming it's only a matter of time before the Nexus 6P has it, or is there something that could potentially prevent this?

BUMP! I was hoping to see this soon. Calling HSBADR!

I'm waiting for this as well.
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@Tasssadar
It probably will be sooner or later. It was supported by the 5 & 6, so I'm sure he's probably working on it.
Patience. ????

All bets on it happing... when he is ready rock it!

Lol I'm so used to multirom. I keep thinking I can flash all roms at once
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I would also like to see multi rom :beer:

bump for visibility.

I loved it on my note 3. Patiently waiting

+1
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Always used multirom on my n5, can't wait for 6p support..
Hope the developer returns ?
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For real
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Anyone want to start a bounty? I'll throw in $20

i'm in
with 20$

Melamunna said:
Anyone want to start a bounty? I'll throw in $20
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Melamunna said:
Anyone want to start a bounty? I'll throw in $20
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Hmm, theres an idea. Another possibility I was thinking about...
Has anyone considered trying to port it to our Angler? Maybe we can put some heads together?
To those of you poised to reply about how farfetched or unrealistic this is (you know who you are): please hold your horses/nuts/boobs/whatever you got before you poop on this idea by replying about how farfetched or unrealistic this is. In all honesty I don't know how ambitious this would be, but the dev provides a solid base to start from for anyone who wants to try and port mltrm to another device.
If you download the multirom app onto Angler and open it up, says it isn't supported and give the link to page that - from what I can tell - describes the porting process step-by-step. He says some knowledge of c+ is likely needed.
Anyway, I'm willing to give it a shot. Actually I'm going to give it a shot and anyone whose up for working together on this is more than welcome.

Any progress on this or is it too much for us uneducated?

If anyone do it, i also give him $

Is anyone working on this. Had Multirom on my Nexus 6 and I need it badly for my Nexus 6p

yanksfan2007 said:
Is anyone working on this. Had Multirom on my Nexus 6 and I need it badly for my Nexus 6p
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Unfortunately not yet...

Nameless crowd face said:
Hmm, theres an idea. Another possibility I was thinking about...
Has anyone considered trying to port it to our Angler? Maybe we can put some heads together?
To those of you poised to reply about how farfetched or unrealistic this is (you know who you are): please hold your horses/nuts/boobs/whatever you got before you poop on this idea by replying about how farfetched or unrealistic this is. In all honesty I don't know how ambitious this would be, but the dev provides a solid base to start from for anyone who wants to try and port mltrm to another device.
If you download the multirom app onto Angler and open it up, says it isn't supported and give the link to page that - from what I can tell - describes the porting process step-by-step. He says some knowledge of c+ is likely needed.
Anyway, I'm willing to give it a shot. Actually I'm going to give it a shot and anyone whose up for working together on this is more than welcome.
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Post the link to the page here for easier access to devs

Oreo 8.1 rom Ok Google function.

Hi
As most of us all know that oreo roms are stable and giving good results.but all roms lack Ok Google feature when screen is off.and no one seems to fix it i wonder is it because its difficult or simply because people don't find it compelling enough.
What if i wanted to fix this issue? What would be a good start in the right direction?
Also if any one knows or has info that can help please share.
Thanks

Sanabil said:
Hi
As most of us all know that oreo roms are stable and giving good results.but all roms lack Ok Google feature when screen is off.and no one seems to fix it i wonder is it because its difficult or simply because people don't find it compelling enough.
What if i wanted to fix this issue? What would be a good start in the right direction?
Also if any one knows or has info that can help please share.
Thanks
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My Moto Z Play on 7.1.1 does not have "OK Google" with screen off and it's completely stock. Is there an example of a phone with "OK Google" working with the screen off?

Guapo613 said:
My Moto Z Play on 7.1.1 does not have "OK Google" with screen off and it's completely stock. Is there an example of a phone with "OK Google" working with the screen off?
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Bro almost all nexus phones have this functionality to activate Ok Google from screen off. I do not know about other manufacturers though but i think it can be turned on in most phones via voice or assistant settings.

Sanabil said:
Hi
As most of us all know that oreo roms are stable and giving good results.but all roms lack Ok Google feature when screen is off.and no one seems to fix it i wonder is it because its difficult or simply because people don't find it compelling enough.
What if i wanted to fix this issue? What would be a good start in the right direction?
Also if any one knows or has info that can help please share.
Thanks
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I haven't fixed it for LineageOS, because I didn't know where to start.
Additionaly it's not very important for me.

Elektroschmock said:
I haven't fixed it for LineageOS, because I didn't know where to start.
Additionaly it's not very important for me.
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Oh i see ? well in that case what do you suggest?
may be this feature is useful for some, like myself.
And it will be nice to see it in !

Sanabil said:
Oh i see well in that case what do you suggest?
may be this feature is useful for some, like myself.
And it will be nice to see it in !
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My suggestion?
Fix it
I know this isn't very helpful, but I really don't know what changed with O and why it isn't working any more.
Perhaps you can start to find out why shamu's custom TriggerTraining.apk isn't launched anymore like it used to be on N.

Elektroschmock said:
My suggestion?
Fix it
I know this isn't very helpful, but I really don't know what changed with O and why it isn't working any more.
Perhaps you can start to find out why shamu's custom TriggerTraining.apk isn't launched anymore like it used to be on N.
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:laugh: ok let's see.

Elektroschmock said:
My suggestion?
Fix it
I know this isn't very helpful, but I really don't know what changed with O and why it isn't working any more.
Perhaps you can start to find out why shamu's custom TriggerTraining.apk isn't launched anymore like it used to be on N.
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You see i am no developer, but i see your statement gives hints and certain clues to what to look for. ?

I searched and found a thread on xda from 2016 , Op was suggesting to modify build.prop via text editor , so changed device name to pixel xl , finally rebooted
AAAaanddddd
It didn't worked ?
Back to more searching,

Sanabil said:
I searched and found a thread on xda from 2016 , Op was suggesting to modify build.prop via text editor , so changed device name to pixel xl , finally rebooted
AAAaanddddd
It didn't worked
Back to more searching,
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If it was that easy it would have been fixed already.

Elektroschmock said:
If it was that easy it would have been fixed already.
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Can i ask you something?
All the devs who put out such ROMs can't they just debug or know where code requires modification.??
Also do you know a coder or dev that you think has a chance of doing it.
Thanks

Sanabil said:
Can i ask you something?
All the devs who put out such ROMs can't they just debug or know where code requires modification.??
Also do you know a coder or dev that you think has a chance of doing it.
Thanks
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I don't know what you think who those devs are. I did the oreo bringup for shamu, but I am a hardware developer and my software skills are very limited.
Additionally all devs do it in their free time and for fun. If a feature is not implemented or not fixed then there is a high chance that nobody is interested or able to fix it.
If you want it working then you should learn to debug and to code.

Elektroschmock said:
I don't know what you think who those devs are. I did the oreo bringup for shamu, but I am a hardware developer and my software skills are very limited.
Additionally all devs do it in their free time and for fun. If a feature is not implemented or not fixed then there is a high chance that nobody is interested or able to fix it.
If you want it working then you should learn to debug and to code.
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Bro i meant no disrespect to any dev who do such work, i appreciate their hard work . I also realize that they take special time to do such work.I didn't knew much about how its all done. But since you explained, i thank you.
And i think as you mentioned i will look into it myself. :good:

Today i used nokia 6.1 with Android Oreo 8.1 , i checked its assistant and to my surprise it too did not supported ok Google function with screen off.
So my guess is that its more of an Android 8.1 change , they have limited this functionality to certain phones.
This means it is not a bug, and needs some custom coding or programming/modification to make it work again .

Well i think i am isolated but i shall continue to find what ever i can and post .
I read on Reddit post of this problem and a user posted build prop trick where one tricks the Nexus 6 into thinking its a pixel device.
I tried but it didn't worked and also camera app crashed too. Voice match remains greyd out , it did how ever at first showed sign that its working but nope upon real testing it failed.
I then tried switching name to nexus 6p and it enabled one option which was previously greyd out, it allowed me to record and voice and asked for pin to use voice match but then disabled 'use ok google from any screen' option. .... and camera was not working too..
Is it the right direction? perhaps..perhaps not.

Update:
This issue is definitely from Google's server side, the voice match issue is not present on nexus 5 and nexus 7 tablet. here is a thread of ongoing discussion.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/0GmbO8FgvQg;context-place=forum/nexus

I think Google decided to ditch ok Google screen off functionality altogether from Nexus 6. There tech team never responded to the complaints mad by users. So it's kinda dead now.

Sanabil said:
I think Google decided to ditch ok Google screen off functionality altogether from Nexus 6. There tech team never responded to the complaints mad by users. So it's kinda dead now.
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I've been looking for a solution to this. I spent a weekend last month flashing various 8.1 and 7.1.X roms and trying to renable it. Same story every time. Apparently Google's just decided we don't get to use this feature anymore. I'm gonna start playing with other assistants (Cortana, Alexa, Hound, Autovoice) and see if any work like we want Assistant to.

lpjunior999 said:
I've been looking for a solution to this. I spent a weekend last month flashing various 8.1 and 7.1.X roms and trying to renable it. Same story every time. Apparently Google's just decided we don't get to use this feature anymore. I'm gonna start playing with other assistants (Cortana, Alexa, Hound, Autovoice) and see if any work like we want Assistant to.
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I wish you best of luck bro . ?

Has anyone tried this on a 100% stock, unrooted device? I got Google One for being a good Local Guide, and Google Customer Support says root may cause this. I'm going to try Magisk Hide and report back.