I can upgrade from a note 5 next week. I can either choose a Galaxy S7 Edge, V20, G5, or an iPhone 7 plus. Is the bootloop issue common with the v20?
LG G4 & LG V10 are 2015's flagships they share the same motherboard, only the early batches of these flagships are prone to bootloop! The later batches must be fine. LG G5 & LG V20 are 2016's flagships and they do not boot loop! Make sure you use good quality USB-C cables for charging , I think in the early days of the HTC 10 had problems with some poor quality USB-C cables (don't know if this caused zero charge or boot loop) If some complained about the amazing LG G5 boot loop the reason is the early batches of the G5 had bad storage HDD. It might affected very few G5's. LG admitted quietly that it'll replace with newer motherboards for free in case of infamous bootloops of the LG G4. The LG G6 looks and sounds so promising and can't wait to own one!
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I can upgrade from a note 5 next week. I can either choose a Galaxy S7 Edge, V20, G5, or an iPhone 7 plus. Is the bootloop issue common with the v20?
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Out of those phones you listed, I believe the V20 will be the closest in terms of similarities. I don't think you could go wrong with any of those choices.
In regards to the bootloop issue, based on bootloop history of past LG devices, it is entirely too early to tell. Those that had bootloop issues typically experienced them at the 1 year mark. I, however, owned a G3 and a G4 (and now currently the V20 ) and have been fortunate enough not to go through those troubles.
V20 is an outstanding phone and even more so once rooted. Good luck with your decision.
Well I don't believe the v20 will suffer from the same issue affecting v10 and g4.
The v10 and g4 share the same board and the main boot loop issue was stated to be a poor solder job on the main board.
The g4 solder problem was officially announced by LG in the beginning of 2016 so this would have been several months of the v10 sharing the same problem. I believe LG is 100% supporting devices under warranty to get repaired free of cost even beyond the 1 year warranty. I think the v10 is covered as well despite never having an official announcement.
Anyway I kind of got off topic, to answer your question I have several reasons to believe the v20 doesn't have this issue:
- completely different chipset means assembly was probably changed up enough to where this issue is fixed.
- this phone does not get hot enough, even when charging the device is at best warm whereas the v10 and g4 do get pretty toasty
I had a v10 for 1 year and 2 months when I suddenly got the boot loop, I was going to turn it in under warranty but decided to jump to the v20 instead. Even though the device was toast I got a 200 credit towards the v20.
I think you'll be safe to be honest.
Edit: there has been a reported boot loop issue with the v20 when people use uncertified usb type c cables according to LG.
Also be aware that boot loop issues are relatively common issue with all phones specifically if rooting is done incorrectly or directions are followed for the wrong phone.
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I have a v20 boot loop within 48hrs of switching on.
Return for replacement. Sorted.
Christ OP.. Nothing towards you but that is a garbage list of telephones to choose from. I really LIKE this phone. Decent horsepower, camera is great if you know how to use it, removable battery, full function IR port.. But if you didnt get a firmware within the rooting window you are SOL. TBH, the screen burn on my v20 makes me really butthurt. Blemish on an otherwise perfect (IMO) phoney phone phone. Almost butthurt enuff that i would have to think about it really hard before i purchased it now, knowing what i know.
Woulda have held out for something in HTC's portfoflio maybe. Or maybe nothing for a while still.. Since i got this v20, i quit paying attention to the new hotness in cellular land.
As of today, every bootloop i've had on the v20 was caused by flashing things that might contain some source that either is not compatible with my variant or is just wrongly developed. On the other hand, it is still kind of early to know whether it will develop bootloop out of nowhere. I have 2x LG G3 since day 1 of being released. And they still working perfectly. ( sure many people developed bootloop but also many didnt...in other words it is a russian roulette. One could either miss the bullet or get shot ) If it does happen to develop bootloop i hope it is prior to the 1 year warranty provided from Tmobile.
I have had my g3, g4 and g5 never play up. I purchased a V20 last week and it lasted less than 48hrs and was bought through Eglobal and looks like a boot loop. That being said it was bought from Hong Kong without knowing and now before I send it back I'm having LG Australia look at it for diagnostics.
Have always bought Kogan and never had a warranty issue with them, I will post as soon as I get a verdict from LG before it goes back to supplier.
Unfortunately I had pernament bootloop in my LG V20 VS995 (Verizon).
I didn't root, mod, flash or anything with this phone.
I leave it next to my bed (it's my alarm).
In the morning battery of V20 was empty, so I plug V20 to load battery.
I use original USB-C cable and charger.
When v20 was charged I tried to turn on.
LG logo appears, and later that red dot with Hello (Verizon animation), but animation suddenly freezes, and phone restarts.
And again, and again (until I take out battery). Verizon animation freezes in random moments, but always at begining.
Trying to hard reset/enter recovery fails (vol up + power, power).
Download mode (vol up + usb plug in) works.
In this mode i flash original stock firmware (version 13A) via LG UP + Uppercut (only in UPDATE mode, because REFURBISH doesn't work - I haven't unlocked bootloader)
But problem still exist.
Boot Loop
Scorpion8080 said:
I have a v20 boot loop within 48hrs of switching on.
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Any body guide mi i am planning to buy LG V20 due to low budget .. Is this device bootloop free??? unlike LG G4, G5, V10..???
Thanks
mistertahirafzal said:
Any body guide mi i am planning to buy LG V20 due to low budget .. Is this device bootloop free??? unlike LG G4, G5, V10..???
Thanks
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I haven't had any problems. I'm on an H918. Owned it since March. Hope this helps.
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Had a dead zone randomly show up on my beloved G2 a few days ago, which necessitated a phone upgrade rather than a repair or refurb G2 (as much as I loved it, I didn't see it being reasonable to go that route). So here I sit with a new G4 to learn all about. Liking what I'm seeing so far, can definitely say that.
Any touchscreen issues?
RIP LG G2. I had mine replaced under verizon warranty and passed it off to my GF.
Having used the G4 for a few weeks, I couldnt go back.
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RIP LG G2. I had mine replaced under verizon warranty and passed it off to my GF.
Having used the G4 for a few weeks, I couldnt go back.
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HAHA!! I love it! I usually pass off my old phone to my daughter
Gotta love having someone you can say "Here's YOUR new phone...I'm gonna go play with MY new phone" LOL
No issues with the phone for me, it's pretty solid actually. I just REALLY REALLY miss the Wireless Storage from my G2, and the photo gallery that was stock on it too. That pinch and flick delete feature was nice.
Wireless Storage was amazing. I have no idea why LG didn't continue that. You can download a Samba SMB server app from the play store that does the same thing, except it isn't as super freakin' awesome/convenient as it being baked in.
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Had a dead zone randomly show up on my beloved G2 a few days ago, which necessitated a phone upgrade rather than a repair or refurb G2 (as much as I loved it, I didn't see it being reasonable to go that route). So here I sit with a new G4 to learn all about. Liking what I'm seeing so far, can definitely say that.
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Same reason why I switched. Though I had a cosmetic screen crack in my LG G2 for 10 months before a dead zone showed up. Previous LG G2 was replaced under warranty with the exact band of dead area but this most recent LG G2 was a no go for warranty repair due to the screen crack. They wouldn't cover it under warranty despite it being a known hardware defect.
I had zero hopes of having mine replaced. I'd had my G2 for 16 months at the time of failure. No hopes at all there sadly.
Hey guys. I'm creating this thread to share my experience with Bootloop and my G4. I'm not expecting any solutions as even this forum states the only solution is to RMA the phone; just hoped this would help raise awareness and make more people cautious (people here are already cautious, but there's always people who come to this site randomly from Google, as I was in the past).
If this isn't the right subforum, let me know please. I apologize since I'm new around here.
>Buy new LG G4 in June for nearly 600 bucks
>early model; phone not out in US yet
>bought international factory unlocked (H815) version from a United-States based seller on eBay
>this version (H815) isn't sold in the US even now that the phone is out; only G4 phones sold in the US are different models that depend on carrier
>I use Cricket wireless
>I also buy extended warranty through CPS Central - Consumer Priority Service which *conveniently* expired last month
>Phone lasts me through the summer and up until Monday the 8th of February, 2016; works great
>First day of school on monday, I'm charging the phone while in CS lab and I go to unlock it to check a text message
>Phone crashes and the screen goes black
>Shows LG (powered by android) splash screen and goes black again
>I immediately get worried
>I get home and do some research
>Turns out the issue is most likely this: *insert Android Authority article link*
>I scramble about trying to find different ways to fix it:
1. Try Recovery mode (factory reset) and hard reset; doesn't work for the most part. Even when telling the phone to factory reset it just crashes again. I was actually able to get into the OS at one point but then it crashed again and kept bootlooping :|
2. Download mode is barely accessible; I was able to get to the Firmware Updating screen but it got stuck at 0% and eventually went black again
3. Friend wasn't able to flash the phone because of this
4. Tried calling local repair shops, but all they do is software fixes
5. Tried calling LG USA, but since the model was manufactured in Taiwan and not in the USA they won't fix it (the guy offered to give me LG Taiwan's number even though he wasn't even sure if anyone there spoke English)
6. Thinking about sending it to Consumer Priority Service but they'll charge me for diagnostics and might not even be able to fix the phone (this will be an out of warranty claim too)
>Only option left now (besides possibly CPS) is to get my Taiwanese friend to possibly help me call LG Taiwan to see if I can send them my phone (which is less than a year old and has an obvious production level flaw)
>Will take months
>Stuck with temp Verizon Galaxy S4 that my friend is letting me borrow
>Thinking of shelling out money (which I don't want to shell out) for either the Nexus 6P or Galaxy S6 (Nexus 6P comes default factory unlocked but my carrier officially supports the S6)
>College student working only part time
Lessons learned:
1. Never early adopt
2. Always buy reliable protection
3. Never buy grey market
4. Don't buy on eBay (okay, maybe not)
Thanks for reading all of this.
If my phone dies I'm getting an iPhone.
I love this phone but it sucks knowing that every moment I could lose all my data... I hope it lasts until I am back from holidays so I can do a full backup.
Hi Guys,
Every body has been on point regarding LG G5 GPS problem, and this problem was repairable by dismantling the phone, bending the 3 pins upwards as seen on Reddit.
The previous generations like G4 G3 and G2 were repairable by removing back cover and bending the 3 golden pins.
But how about LG G6? the phone is said to be water proof and high sealing. If we buy it and we came to know a GPS problem is around again, it would be very difficult to dismantle and repair as it will damage the water proofing.
I am looking forward to buy LG G6 if it appears to have Google Assistant, but I am really afraid to face a night mare with GPS.
LG has been known for GPS problem ever since G2.
They don't respond to customers regarding this issue and they do not even acknowledge it!
So what do you guys think? I will delay my purchase for G6 until I figure out this issue is not being reported by users around the world.
What do you think??
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Hi Guys,
Every body has been on point regarding LG G5 GPS problem, and this problem was repairable by dismantling the phone, bending the 3 pins upwards as seen on Reddit.
The previous generations like G4 G3 and G2 were repairable by removing back cover and bending the 3 golden pins.
But how about LG G6? the phone is said to be water proof and high sealing. If we buy it and we came to know a GPS problem is around again, it would be very difficult to dismantle and repair as it will damage the water proofing.
I am looking forward to buy LG G6 if it appears to have Google Assistant, but I am really afraid to face a night mare with GPS.
LG has been known for GPS problem ever since G2.
They don't respond to customers regarding this issue and they do not even acknowledge it!
So what do you guys think? I will delay my purchase for G6 until I figure out this issue is not being reported by users around the world.
What do you think??
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Delay buying. Waiting 6 months and reading people's problems on here 1st. If it still present, well New pixel here I come.
You are right on other LG phones having this issue as well. I've had low-high end Lg phones most has GPS issue. I got lucky maybe? No Gps issues with my newer version of LG g5.
Minds well wait 6 months anyway due to issues, price drop, root, etc. Win-win situation for consumer. Most you reading this should fellow suit.
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Delay buying. Waiting 6 months and reading people's problems on here 1st. If it still present, well New pixel here I come.
You are right on other LG phones having this issue as well. I've had low-high end Lg phones most has GPS issue. I got lucky maybe? No Gps issues with my newer version of LG g5.
Minds well wait 6 months anyway due to issues, price drop, root, etc. Win-win situation for consumer. Most you reading this should fellow suit.
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Thank you, best advice I guess.
Will wait and see
If you buy it. You get warranty too so chilax
Engineering Support said:
Hi Guys,
Every body has been on point regarding LG G5 GPS problem, and this problem was repairable by dismantling the phone, bending the 3 pins upwards as seen on Reddit.
The previous generations like G4 G3 and G2 were repairable by removing back cover and bending the 3 golden pins.
But how about LG G6? the phone is said to be water proof and high sealing. If we buy it and we came to know a GPS problem is around again, it would be very difficult to dismantle and repair as it will damage the water proofing.
I am looking forward to buy LG G6 if it appears to have Google Assistant, but I am really afraid to face a night mare with GPS.
LG has been known for GPS problem ever since G2.
They don't respond to customers regarding this issue and they do not even acknowledge it!
So what do you guys think? I will delay my purchase for G6 until I figure out this issue is not being reported by users around the world.
What do you think??
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Yah LG is a little slow at GPS not has nice ram .I suggest u to buy it .Its a good piece and I think its improved .GO AHEAD☺☺☺☺
[email protected]@R said:
Yah LG is a little slow at GPS not has nice ram .I suggest u to buy it .Its a good piece and I think its improved .GO AHEAD☺☺☺☺
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GopalKaul said:
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BUY
GPS is solid out of the box. This phone is certainly much more of a premium design. The details are better, seams are better, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if build quality internally was the same. I think this is the best build quality of any LG I've ever owned (and I'm on my 7th LG phone). Time will tell.
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Don't know about this waiting thing... Buying it now with my upgrade got me the following:
- $800 = LG G6 phone
+ $240 = service credit
+ $350 = FREE LG 49' 1080p TV
+ $150 = Google Home
So basically, in the end I only paid $60.00 + the taxes on the full MSRP.
I bought an LG V20 from a sibling living in spain for 300 dollar a new phone packed with all accessories living in a country where lg is not marketed ,everything was ok for Three weeks ,a normal usage suddenly phone frozen and doesnt even turn on tried everything and every trick,what a shame for a flagship phone i m really sad and disappointed after searching i figured out that lg phones suffered bootloops freezes and many issue returned back to my old honor 6 with scratches and smashed screen even battery is better than the new Lg bought with all my salary
Back in the fall of 2015 I bought a H815 LG G4 for my son. Within a few weeks it started to bootloop. Not knowing what was going on he continued to try using it until January 2016 when it finally died. Since it was not a US version LG US refused to fix it under warranty. My son bought another G4, a US991 this time.
I managed to get the H815 to Taiwan, LG there fixed it under warranty and I kept it for myself.
Both phones had been working fine until mid November this year when the US991 decided to die. I figured that was the end of that phone since the one year warranty was well and truly over but I decided what the heck, I called LG US.
I told the very polite lady that answered the phone that my almost 3 year old phone is doing nothing but show a screen that says “LG Life is Good”. She had me try a few things and then asked me for the IMEI #. She told me it was under warranty, send me a FexEx label and I send it to them.
They returned the phone the same day they received it. From what I can tell they replaced the motherboard. The phone has been working fine for a week now.
I am not happy that LG sold phones that quite clearly had issues or with the fact that we never got the android updates they promised, but I am impressed that they fixed an item that has been out of warranty fast and totally free.
Yeah they are really trying to repair their image. Unfortunately their fix isn't a real fix and just a replacement. It will likely do the same thing. Also they just made the phones substantially less powerful by disabling the cores...
In all it ruined my experience with LG as I had 2 other LG phones that had similar issues... Now I'm using an Essential PH-1 (on sale they are a great deal) and was looking at the one plus 6t or pixel 2 of 3 on sale as well as alternatives.
semass said:
Back in the fall of 2015 I bought a H815 LG G4 for my son. Within a few weeks it started to bootloop. Not knowing what was going on he continued to try using it until January 2016 when it finally died. Since it was not a US version LG US refused to fix it under warranty. My son bought another G4, a US991 this time.
I managed to get the H815 to Taiwan, LG there fixed it under warranty and I kept it for myself.
Both phones had been working fine until mid November this year when the US991 decided to die. I figured that was the end of that phone since the one year warranty was well and truly over but I decided what the heck, I called LG US.
I told the very polite lady that answered the phone that my almost 3 year old phone is doing nothing but show a screen that says “LG Life is Good”. She had me try a few things and then asked me for the IMEI #. She told me it was under warranty, send me a FexEx label and I send it to them.
They returned the phone the same day they received it. From what I can tell they replaced the motherboard. The phone has been working fine for a week now.
I am not happy that LG sold phones that quite clearly had issues or with the fact that we never got the android updates they promised, but I am impressed that they fixed an item that has been out of warranty fast and totally free.
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