Its Time to Sell Your Note 5 - Galaxy Note5 General

First of all Note 7 Is back now, Note 8 will be release in a few month
I bought note 5, 3 weeks ago but Im gonna sell it now and switch to S7 Edge
3000 battery, No Sd Card, , Old camera

Having come from a s7 edge the day to day use there is no different. The screen looks better on the note 5

Sttrory said:
Having come from a s7 edge the day to day use there is no different. The screen looks better on the note 5
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mate, How About Camera video Recording?
I watched lot of videos on youtube and sound like S7 edge with 12 Megapixel is better than Note with 16 megapixel? What do you think?
For me Camera is most imported.

Don't use camera recording so don't know but every day use not worth s7 edge

PRO23 said:
mate, How About Camera video Recording?
I watched lot of videos on youtube and sound like S7 edge with 12 Megapixel is better than Note with 16 megapixel? What do you think?
For me Camera is most imported.
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My wife has the S7 edge and I have the note 5. The S7 edge camera is definitely better but not by miles. I will say the Note 5 is much smoother. When messing with the wife's phone it has an occasional hiccup. I never get hiccups on the Note 5.
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skunkle88 said:
My wife has the S7 edge and I have the note 5. The S7 edge camera is definitely better but not by miles. I will say the Note 5 is much smoother. When messing with the wife's phone it has an occasional hiccup. I never get hiccups on the Note 5.
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I like Note 5 features Like S Pen, i'm thinking about Replacing Note 5 Camera Lens with S7 Edge.

PRO23 said:
sound like S7 edge with 12 Megapixel is better than Note with 16 megapixel
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This is only under low light-levels that this advantage is evident. I still prefer the Note5 for daily use

PRO23 said:
mate, How About Camera video Recording?
I watched lot of videos on youtube and sound like S7 edge with 12 Megapixel is better than Note with 16 megapixel? What do you think?
For me Camera is most imported.
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PRO23 said:
I like Note 5 features Like S Pen, i'm thinking about Replacing Note 5 Camera Lens with S7 Edge.
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MP make no difference in quality and probably virtually impossible to replace the actual lens let alone swap it with an s7 lens plus alot more than a lens goes into quality. You can put a $10k lens on a $100 camera but doesn't mean you're gonna have $10k quality pics lol

PRO23 said:
First of all Note 7 Is back now, Note 8 will be release in a few month
I bought note 5, 3 weeks ago but Im gonna sell it now and switch to S7 Edge
3000 battery, No Sd Card, , Old camera
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What exactly do you mean by "Note 7 is back"?

PRO23 said:
First of all Note 7 Is back now, Note 8 will be release in a few month
I bought note 5, 3 weeks ago but Im gonna sell it now and switch to S7 Edge
3000 battery, No Sd Card, , Old camera
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I have both s-series and note-series phones i.e.S6 edge+, s7 edge and note 4-5..But as per my personal experience note series rocks over s-series...m using note 5 as my daily driver with nought port rom which is running buttery smooth than official nougat of s7edge...Battery life is bit less but compared to differences i.e.note5 with 3000mAh and s7edge with 3600mAh we can't just compare both phones straight enough but getting 4hrs of SOT which is enough for me..:laugh:
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kat3k said:
What exactly do you mean by "Note 7 is back"?
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He is saying about the News flashes on sammobile and gsmarena about samsung is going to sell refurbished Note 7 with bit decreased battery size for safety purpose..But samsung haven't officially confirmed the news so it might be in rumours mill..You can check those forums for more information about Refurbished Note 7..

PRO23 said:
First of all Note 7 Is back now, Note 8 will be release in a few month
I bought note 5, 3 weeks ago but Im gonna sell it now and switch to S7 Edge
3000 battery, No Sd Card, , Old camera
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the Note 7 is discontinued anything being sold under that name now is a refurb of the original model with a different battery. The Note 8 as of right now is an unconfirmed rumor (if anyone can confirm it please I would love a new model as I do love the note series of phones) what is being released in April is the S8

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Post pictures taken with your Nexus 6

First pic taken with nexus 6
Post your pictures from nexus 6
This is my first one. Its cold here 12°F this morning so it may not be the best due to my hands shaking.
N6 Gallery: http://imgur.com/a/ReaZh#0
I'll add more pics when the sun comes out lol.
Troegs with N6
Lunchtime
Botanical garden some are HDR+
digweed4me said:
Botanical garden some are HDR+
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Wow that's a very nice picture! Do you use a 3rd party camera or is that stock?
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No I use stock camera app
Stock camera app, not HDR, no settings played with.
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DualSportDad said:
Stock camera app, not HDR, no settings played with.
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Nice Buell's. Just had an off on my daytona 675 not to long ago - wasnt good
These are great. Would love to see how they compare to a note 4 it iPhone 6-
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NexusHexus said:
Nice Buell's. Just had an off on my daytona 675 not to long ago - wasnt good
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Thanks.
Not good! I hope you heal up quick.
The blue lightning used to be mine, sold it to my friend that was on a 675r.
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Some more HDR+ shots.
Full size: http://i.imgur.com/Vlvnqo8.jpg
Some HDR+ shots at the car show today.
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Few more classics.
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I'm pretty sure the Tapatalk app is compressing these. They look much better in the photos app.
ekerbuddyeker said:
These are great. Would love to see how they compare to a note 4 it iPhone 6-
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I have the iPhone 6+ and Note 4 around; I've used the Nexus 6 camera for an hour (indoors only). From what I used it is slower and not as well balanced than the iPhone 6+ camera. Note 4 was just as fast as the Nexus 6, maybe a bit faster.
Both the iPhone 6+ and Note 4 have far, far better software for the camera app and thus they both take far better photos (for a smartphone) compared to the Nexus 6. In low-light the Nexus 6 performs like a Galaxy Nexus (which I've used often) compared with the iPhone 6+ and Note 4. There are many tests which show how bad the Nexus 6 is in low light, especially without flash.
From my limited experience it was ok but noticeable worse than the iPhone 6+ and Note 4. If you were testing all three together in a store, you would see the difference.
Potentially if someone creates a new camera app with far better software in the app - puts it for sale on the PlayStore (so you don't need a rooted phone to use it) - the Nexus 6 camera could be much better. As it is the stock camera app post-processing software is terrible compared to other flagships. The current cameras on the PlayStore (that I've used) do not get the best out of the N6 camera either.
From what I know the camera hardware in the N6 is comparable to the Note 4 so theoretically it can match the photo quality of the Note 4 in all conditions. The software though is not comparable.
spartanm99 said:
I have the iPhone 6+ and Note 4 around; I've used the Nexus 6 camera for an hour (indoors only). From what I used it is slower and not as well balanced than the iPhone 6+ camera. Note 4 was just as fast as the Nexus 6, maybe a bit faster.
Both the iPhone 6+ and Note 4 have far, far better software for the camera app and thus they both take far better photos (for a smartphone) compared to the Nexus 6. In low-light the Nexus 6 performs like a Galaxy Nexus (which I've used often) compared with the iPhone 6+ and Note 4. There are many tests which show how bad the Nexus 6 is in low light, especially without flash.
From my limited experience it was ok but noticeable worse than the iPhone 6+ and Note 4. If you were testing all three together in a store, you would see the difference.
Potentially if someone creates a new camera app with far better software in the app - puts it for sale on the PlayStore (so you don't need a rooted phone to use it) - the Nexus 6 camera could be much better. As it is the stock camera app post-processing software is terrible compared to other flagships. The current cameras on the PlayStore (that I've used) do not get the best out of the N6 camera either.
From what I know the camera hardware in the N6 is comparable to the Note 4 so theoretically it can match the photo quality of the Note 4 in all conditions. The software though is not comparable.
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Note 4 has sony exmor imx 240 which is the newest sensor from sony that's why note 4 is the top dog nexus 6 has imx 214 sensor which is the same as one plus one but takes far better pictures than one plus one . we gonna see new amazing third party apps soon since lollipop camera api has been released from google.
ekerbuddyeker said:
These are great. Would love to see how they compare to a note 4 it iPhone 6-
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digweed4me said:
Note 4 has sony exmor imx 240 which is the newest sensor from sony that's why note 4 is the top dog nexus 6 has imx 214 sensor which is the same as one plus one but takes far better pictures than one plus one . we gonna see new amazing third party apps soon since lollipop camera api has been released from google.
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Great thanks for the confirmation on the sensors; then the Nexus 6 will never compete with the Note 4 or iPhone 6+ on the camera front, it will always be a step behind. When they said 'premium, no compromises' I think they were joking. I honestly expected it to at least match the Note 4 with camera tech for the price. Worse screen I expected, but not the camera tech.
The Nexus 6 is essentially a Note 3 with a faster processor (but you probably wouldn't notice due to the encryption) and stock Android. Ideally should be priced like a Note 3 then...
I was at the LA Auto Show yesterday. Here are some pics I took.
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Great thanks for the confirmation on the sensors; then the Nexus 6 will never compete with the Note 4 or iPhone 6+ on the camera front, it will always be a step behind. When they said 'premium, no compromises' I think they were joking. I honestly expected it to at least match the Note 4 with camera tech for the price. Worse screen I expected, but not the camera tech.
The Nexus 6 is essentially a Note 3 with a faster processor (but you probably wouldn't notice due to the encryption) and stock Android. Ideally should be priced like a Note 3 then...
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I had note 4 for a week and it lag like hell everything seems slow motion compare to nexus 6 thats the reason I sold note 4 on the front facing camera it could compete with iPhone 6 plus but not with note 4 cause it has 3.7mp wide angle lens.

Should I switch from Note 5 to S7 Edge?

Hi guys, 3 weeks ago I bought Note 5, For me Camera is most imported (Video Recording). So Should I switch from Note 5 to S7 Edge?
I watched lot of videos on youtube and sound like S7 edge with 12 Megapixel is better than Note 5 with 16 megapixel? What do you think?
re: S7 Edge - Note 5
PRO23 said:
Hi guys, 3 weeks ago I bought Note 5, For me Camera is most imported (Video Recording). So Should I switch from Note 5 to S7 Edge?
I watched lot of videos on youtube and sound like S7 edge with 12 Megapixel is better than Note 5 with 16 megapixel? What do you think?
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If the most important thing to you is the camera then yes,
it's best to have the S7 Edge because it not only has the
very best over all camera but it's low light ability is way
better than any other samsung model built so far.
Do a low light test with both the Note 5 and S7 Edge
and see the difference yourself.
Good luck, have a great day!
Is there anyway to replace Note 5 Camera Lens with S7 Edge?
PRO23 said:
Is there anyway to replace Note 5 Camera Lens with S7 Edge?
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No. It can't be done.
Personally as far as I can see the difference is minimal. Basically you get better lighting and more accurate colors on picture in exchange for some loss of detail since there are less megapixels.
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PRO23 said:
Hi guys, 3 weeks ago I bought Note 5, For me Camera is most imported (Video Recording). So Should I switch from Note 5 to S7 Edge?
I watched lot of videos on youtube and sound like S7 edge with 12 Megapixel is better than Note 5 with 16 megapixel? What do you think?
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I used note 5 for an yr before switching to s7 edge. The difference in camera is minimal... if u have the cash go for it but only for camera I don't think it's worth it.
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Bought an s7 edge less 1 week ago, sell it already?

Hello guys, i bought an used s7 edge but im already regretting it...the only thing better then the s6 edge which i had previously is the battery...for the rest is pretty much the same...also the camera seem a bit worse imho...
I want to sell the s7 edge and then buy a Xiaomi MI6 when it gets released which should have same specs as the upcoming S8 but with a low price $299...what do you guys think?
Had the same opinion when switched from the S6 Edge to the S7 Edge... I really miss the S6 camera...
I never had xiaomi, but specs are specs...I don't look at brands to be honest.
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sentinelvdx said:
Had the same opinion when switched from the S6 Edge to the S7 Edge... I really miss the S6 camera...
I never had xiaomi, but specs are specs...I don't look at brands to be honest.
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Never had Xiaomi aswell...but i guess is time to give it a try...same SOC as the upcoming S8 but it comes at less then half:fingers-crossed: the price so is something to consider..

Very important news about this phone!

Please don’t delete this topic it’s fair warning!
I hate to be right sometimes but as I told long ago after years of testing it turns out that the best camera of Samsung was in S6 / S6Edge+. Test it yourself. Hold S6 in one hand and for example S8 in the other and take a photo in good light. Then zoom it on the phone and you will see that S6 has better details, no artificial brightener while for example S8 has it.
S6 has 16 Mpix and all flagships that came after had 12 Mpix rear camera.
I’ve tested S6 Edge Plus vs. S7 / S8 / S8+, Note8, S9, S9+ and…
only S9+ finally beat S6. (look how Samsung did bad for us from Sep2015 till March2018)
I wish I had NOT sale my S6 and bought a newer one
If You don't believe me? Ask XDA members who has S6 and a later Galaxy S model (but not S9+)
This is a Warning for You don't sell your S6!!!! or sell only if you can afford to buy S9+.
I did the wrong thing so I Warn you no to make the same mistake that I did
So, you say s6 is better than s8 (in camera) because resolution?
Then my xperia S (12 mpx) has the same camera quality like s8, right?
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panchuckles said:
So, you say s6 is better than s8 (in camera) because resolution?
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I didnt say that. I know that res/Mpix is not the final thing in judgeing the cam quality.
The purpose of this post was to warn all of ppl that DO want to use only smartfion to take pics.
I have no agenda against S8+. I just know that a lot of ppl are massivly abandoning S6 cause they think that cam will be significntly better on a newer Galaxy. Out of my good heart I want to spare them the dissapointment.
Like I said if a person wants to change S6 only for pics quality reason they should buy nothing less than S9+ otherwise they will be sadly dissapointed.
I disagree. My s8 takes much better photos than my s6.
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I disagree. My s8 takes much better photos than my s6.
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With all respect to You.
Why is that my S6E+ made 1000 photos of comparing (in bright light of course) since the lanuch of S7 till the launch of S9/S9+
And...
There's a post on XDA where expert members of XDA (high lever, maybe dev even) do agree with me.
androidbadboy said:
With all respect to You.
Why is that my S6E+ made 1000 photos of comparing (in bright light of course) since the lanuch of S7 till the launch of S9/S9+
And...
There's a post on XDA where expert members of XDA (high lever, maybe dev even) do agree with me.
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Switch from Samsung Galaxy S7 to Redmi Note 7

Someone here switched from Galaxy S7 or S7 Edge to Redmi note 7 ?
s7 edge to redmi note 7 here. What's up?
chiplovez9x said:
s7 edge to redmi note 7 here. What's up?
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I would like to know if it's à good idea to switch from S7 to redmi note 7 And how is good thé Xiaomi in picture, screen, speakers, battery life, power compared to s7.
Thank you.
Didn't have an S7 but did have a Note 4 Exynos and Honor 8 before I got the Redmi Note 7phone.
Honestly, speed will probably feel about the same since S7 had the Snapdragon 820 processor.
Gaming performance will probably be about the same as well.
The screen isn't amoled so if that matters to you, you're probably better skipping the Redmi Note 7 and getting the Mi 8(snapdragon 845) or the newer Mi 9(snapdragon 855 with quad hd and dual speakers).
Either of those will definitely be an upgrade to your S7 in multiple ways...
Processor, functionality, performance, build quality, battery life, camera, gaming etc
Mi 8 can now be had for under $400 new as well if price matters to you
Thank you for responding.
My S7 is exynos one and I know that Mali GPU is more powerfull for gaming. S7 has à good display but it's too little and had burn in.
I want to know how is thé remdi's camera compared to S7 has a good One. My brother buyed à redmi Note 5 pro and S7 photos are much better
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achour7 said:
Thank you for responding.
My S7 is exynos one and I know that Mali GPU is more powerfull for gaming. S7 has à good display but it's too little and had burn in.
I want to know how is thé remdi's camera compared to S7 has a good One. My brother buyed à redmi Note 5 pro and S7 photos are much better
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I'm not sure... S7 photos may be a little better since it was the flagship of the year a couple years back.
If you're worried about photos, I'd get the Mi 8 or if you can afford... Skip the Xiaomi budget line altogether and go straight for the The Mi 9.
Don't get me wrong... Redmi Note 7 or it's twin brother Mi 8 Lite are both spectacular phones especially for the money to value quotient. They pack a hell of a punch and are popular globally for a reason but coming from the S7, if you're not willing to compromise a little bit in the area of video and photo quality, you're better off shopping for a Xiaomi flagship.
Either phone (Mi 8 or Mi 9) is the flagship experience you want but the Mi 9 will blow you away and be the true upgrade you're looking for
tiguy99 said:
Didn't have an S7 but did have a Note 4 Exynos and Honor 8 before I got the Redmi Note 7phone.
Honestly, speed will probably feel about the same since S7 had the Snapdragon 820 processor.
Gaming performance will probably be about the same as well.
The screen isn't amoled so if that matters to you, you're probably better skipping the Redmi Note 7 and getting the Mi 8(snapdragon 845) or the newer Mi 9(snapdragon 855 with quad hd and dual speakers).
Either of those will definitely be an upgrade to your S7 in multiple ways...
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I just got a Redmi Note 7 today, and it will replace a ZTE Axon 7 (Snapdragon 820, like the US version S7), so I'm in a similar position.
Haven't used it much yet, but initial impressions are very good. I just run some tests on both phones in Geekbench Pro, and the Redmi Note 7 won in some areas, while the Axon 7 still smoked it in some tests. You're right, the overall performance should feel pretty similar to the S7.
Benchmarks aside, I'm happy to have a new device that is fully up to date - stock Pie (that I'll dump in favor of LOS as soon as I'm able, haha), a big battery and efficient CPU, a really fast fingerprint scanner in a natural position (meaning NOT on the front), a big screen (any bigger wouldn't fit my pocket), VOLTE, a decent camera, and some support on XDA. It took me a while to decide to buy it because I was concerned about it not having an OLED screen but now I don't think it's going to be an issue - it looks good. Works with Mint Mobile (T-Mobile) here.
Only Day 1, but I'm satisfied so far, especially for $200!
RN7 is way better .. except for the sound quality and the weight (rn7 is heavy lol)
These guys have nailed it!
Think you'll be happy with the phone especially for the price.
I know I am.
Use it for a while.... If you don't like it, sell it for a more expensive flagship.
For me it's so good I don't feel the need to have a flagship phone anymore!
Just saw a review on Amazon with someone who mentioned they upgraded to the Redmi Note 7 from an S7 and raved about it.
Check out the review for the Blue 4GB RAM/64GB version.
It's one of the newer reviews.
tiguy99 said:
These guys have nailed it!
Think you'll be happy with the phone especially for the price.
I know I am.
Use it for a while.... If you don't like it, sell it for a more expensive flagship.
For me it's so good I don't feel the need to have a flagship phone anymore!
Just saw a review on Amazon with someone who mentioned they upgraded to the Redmi Note 7 from an S7 and raved about it.
Check out the review for the Blue 4GB RAM/64GB version.
It's one of the newer reviews.
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I finally replaced my S7 and for now I am completely satisfied except the camera. I will test Gcam and see the result...
chazy chaz said:
RN7 is way better .. except for the sound quality and the weight (rn7 is heavy lol)
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I got it this morning and yes, the redmi is so heavy. Sound Quality is better on xiaomi but i was using dual speaker sounds on S7 wich makes a plaisent stéréo effect. Camera is a bit better on S7 Thanks to live HDR, dual pixel technology and à good noise réduction.
That's awesome!
Can't wait until you try GCam.
Think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Also try open camera for 4K video recording?
achour7 said:
I got it this morning and yes, the redmi is so heavy. Sound Quality is better on xiaomi but i was using dual speaker sounds on S7 wich makes a plaisent stéréo effect. Camera is a bit better on S7 Thanks to live HDR, dual pixel technology and à good noise réduction.
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achour7 said:
I would like to know if it's à good idea to switch from S7 to redmi note 7 And how is good thé Xiaomi in picture, screen, speakers, battery life, power compared to s7.
Thank you.
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Yes Redmi note 7 is next level in term of screen size, entertaining purpose, everyday all around. Battery life 2 days on minimal use. Picture not as good as s7 edge
I replaced Huawei P10 whit RN7 and I'm surprised how better it is comparing to P10. Screen picture quality is way better and camera whit Gcam too. P10 have Leica lense blā, blā, but I don't like Leica look and that camera overexposes picture, loses detail in texture whit smoothing, makes picture to oversaturated and colors too neutral. RN7 whit GCam is neutral, exposes good and colors are good. If You like overprocessed pictures then You might want different camera app.
P10 is not S7, but I can say this phone is good. Only complains are weight, and writing is a bit hard for Me in position as I hold the phone. Of course there is minor things like screen is a bit less bright comparing to P10, plastic body, speaker can be more clear, still usb 2.0, no nfc, no IP rating etc. If You don't want to spend alot of money on phone as I do then this is solid choice. For that extra 250€ I would spend on phone I can buy alot of different things for Me.
Both my wife and I just bought the RN7 yesterday to replace both of our S7 Edge, personally I notice the screen resolution difference between the two, I miss the notifications staying at the top, miss the app draw and the camera start up speed is a lot faster than the RN7. The main reason why we switched though is the battery life, both of ours are the US version which use the Snapdragon CPU which only give us around 4 hr SOT, and I pretty much have to charge 2 or 3 times a day (yah on my phone all day long ) , now with the RN7, without doing anything, I just got 8 hr SOT with 10% left ....so yah wire free all day and way cheaper than a flagship Samsung, I know I can get over the cons very soon.
bestjsg said:
Both my wife and I just bought the RN7 yesterday to replace both of our S7 Edge, personally I notice the screen resolution difference between the two, I miss the notifications staying at the top, miss the app draw and the camera start up speed is a lot faster than the RN7. The main reason why we switched though is the battery life, both of ours are the US version which use the Snapdragon CPU which only give us around 4 hr SOT, and I pretty much have to charge 2 or 3 times a day (yah on my phone all day long ) , now with the RN7, without doing anything, I just got 8 hr SOT with 10% left ....so yah wire free all day and way cheaper than a flagship Samsung, I know I can get over the cons very soon.
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Plus we can help you negate some of the flaws
To get the original look with the added app drawer, install Poco Launcher from the Play Store and you're done with that part.
Screen res? Can you actually notice S7's higher pixels per inch count? Nothing to do about that though.
To overcome the lack of permanent notifications at the top, install Notch Test (Notifications for MIUI) and set up the position, give all permissions to the app, autostart, set battery restrictions to none, and lock it in the app switcher so MIUI can't kill it off. I have the icons position set to 215 from the left and 36 from the top. Works great and mitigates the issue completely (issue for those of us not coming from MIUI, accustomed to "permanent" notifications).
Camera start-up - nothing to do about that unless Xiaomi updates the firmware to do so. GCam takes even more to start, but the image it produces is more than worth the wait.

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