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I've been doing android tablet installs for a while and I am considering moving to a head unit in my new car. I have some questions about them and was hoping I could get them answered here.
What I really want is a simple device that mirrors my phone to a screen in my car that allows touch input. Not just android auto because its missing things like being able to choose what media player I want to use (unless it can use GMMP and GrooveMusic) I don't want a streaming audio choice when I have a phone that has gigs of music on it. Is there something like that?
On the subject of screen mirroring, when you use it does it work with steering wheel controls? (I can use my phone and skip tracks using the wheel or open voice commands)
And the last thing, Are there any 8 inch units with minimal buttons like the NU5002 with 5.1.1 or higher?
I've looked and haven't been able to find answers to any of these so any help would be of great use to me.
sounds like this could be for you:
JY-UL138N2
https://www.carjoying.com/head-unit...cement-support-backup-camera-resolution-.html
Hi
I am currently using Parrot Asteroid Smart, generally I am satisfied with the unit, sound quality is great, BT and other features works good, but the HW is old and max. Android version is 2.3.
I'm thinking about upgrading to newer android and the only possibility I see is one of chinese 2din HU like Ownice C500.
Does anyone have experience if they are any cons of such change? What is the sound quality of C500 compared to Smart?
Any info would be appreciated.
ee0090 said:
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I am currently using Parrot Asteroid Smart, generally I am satisfied with the unit, sound quality is great, BT and other features works good, but the HW is old and max. Android version is 2.3.
I'm thinking about upgrading to newer android and the only possibility I see is one of chinese 2din HU like Ownice C500.
Does anyone have experience if they are any cons of such change? What is the sound quality of C500 compared to Smart?
Any info would be appreciated.
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I am in the exact same situation. I was happy with the PAS at first, but it became outdated and frustrating very quickly - the lack of apps supported natively, the lack of ram and storage. Even after rooting and installing Google Play store there are so many apps that can't be run on 2.3. Positives though are that the Bluetooth call quality and voice command is in my opinion unmatched.
I have since bought an Eonon Android unit (rooted and installed Malaysk rom) for my wife's car and the interface is great, the sound is reasonable and the app support is great. The Bluetooth however is terrible, to the point of being unusable, the person on the other end can either not hear or suffers from major delay. This is a known problem with nearly ALL Chinese Android head units and there is a hardware mod but not being very confident in opening the unit and performing the mod properly and potentially voiding warranty is a risk I'm yet to take with it. I also have an issue where the physical volume control knob stops working and sound can only be adjusted on-screen, this is usually fixed with a reboot.
I still have not found a reliable unit to replace the PAS in my car after reading numerous threads that has Bluetooth quality on par with the PAS. Hopefully someone else here can recommend a decent unit?
Joying 2GB Intel is the way to go
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Joying 2GB Intel is the way to go
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Why?
look over some of the various threads on XDA, and feel free to check out the official Joying forum - http://forum.carjoying.com/
For the most part i think Joying gets the least amount of negative feedback, they tend to have pretty good customer service, and they seem to so somewhat monthly updates. I have had the older 1gb model and I currently have the newer 2GB of RAM model, and I'm a big fan:
here is a video review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzGFDwSFj24&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUP4WGYHIaQ
but dont take my word for it, like I said, if you spend some time reading, you'll see a lot of the other head units have their fair share of bugs and complaints
If you want a fully functional BT interface, go with the Intel 2GB Joying head units. I think they are the only ones with a full stack BT interface available, the other Rockchip based units seem to have a somewhat hacked in BT interface which is limited compared to a full native interface, specially when it comes to how the Android OS can access and control it.
Install the apk from this thread and you have access to the standard Android BT settings screen, it is normally hidden in the Settings app but luckily it's not removed.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...elopment/bluetooth-settings-launcher-t3504526
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If you want a fully functional BT interface, go with the Intel 2GB Joying head units. I think they are the only ones with a full stack BT interface available, the other Rockchip based units seem to have a somewhat hacked in BT interface which is limited compared to a full native interface, specially when it comes to how the Android OS can access and control it.
Install the apk from this thread and you have access to the standard Android BT settings screen, it is normally hidden in the Settings app but luckily it's not removed.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...elopment/bluetooth-settings-launcher-t3504526
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Thanks for the info
Few questions:
What is the BT handsfree quality with external mic installed?
Does the radio display station names? Does RDS and AF work correctly?
What is the general sound quality?
Does WiFi module connect with 4G router?
I use the head units wifi to connect to my phone as a wifi hotspot. Works great. BT handsfree with external mic is very good, at least according to those I talk to, I haven't been on the "receiving end" yet..
The sound quality is good, I'm still using the OEM speakers and they sound better with this head unit compared to the OEM head unit. Can't confirm on radio as I actually don't use it much... It does have RDS it seems, but don't know if it works or not. (radio where I live is garbage, nonsense content and music seems limited to whatever the top 20 list is...)
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I use the head units wifi to connect to my phone as a wifi hotspot. Works great. BT handsfree with external mic is very good, at least according to those I talk to, I haven't been on the "receiving end" yet..
The sound quality is good, I'm still using the OEM speakers and they sound better with this head unit compared to the OEM head unit. Can't confirm on radio as I actually don't use it much... It does have RDS it seems, but don't know if it works or not. (radio where I live is garbage, nonsense content and music seems limited to whatever the top 20 list is...)
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Thank you for the info. Which version do you use? I can see there are 3 different versions of 7" universal unit with the same hardware. The difference is that two of them have volume knob and the 3rd only touchscreen.
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If you want a fully functional BT interface, go with the Intel 2GB Joying head units. I think they are the only ones with a full stack BT interface available, the other Rockchip based units seem to have a somewhat hacked in BT interface which is limited compared to a full native interface, specially when it comes to how the Android OS can access and control it.
Install the apk from this thread and you have access to the standard Android BT settings screen, it is normally hidden in the Settings app but luckily it's not removed.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...elopment/bluetooth-settings-launcher-t3504526
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Both MTCD and Joying INtel have positive and negative feedbacks....
In terms of BT performance....both have BT Limited to MCU. Even you could pair from the BT standard menu, the functionality is limited. If i am not wront (correct me) both units CAN'T perform CALLS from BT by using google Now. Google Now recognizes correctly the name and it seems to start the call but never is initiated as it can not communicate with the real bluetooth Handsfree on the Headunit.
On the Intel units, the BT and wifi hardware is on the same board as the CPU, Android has full access to it. That is not the reason Google Now can't make calls. This is different on the MTCD units where the BT is a module which is sort of hacked in and Android doesn't have full access to.
I have bought Joying with Intel. BT handsfree works fine, although there are some other problems:
- no voice in Google Maps,
- when listening to the FM radio no voice output from nav apps except of Igo,
- I have connected Alpine active sub to the unit, sub works fine for first few minutes and stops, any idea why and what can be done about it? Sub worked great with Parrot, so it must be some issue with Joying.
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I have bought Joying with Intel. BT handsfree works fine, although there are some other problems:
- no voice in Google Maps,
- when listening to the FM radio no voice output from nav apps except of Igo,
- I have connected Alpine active sub to the unit, sub works fine for first few minutes and stops, any idea why and what can be done about it? Sub worked great with Parrot, so it must be some issue with Joying.
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I think if you change default nav app to your preferred one, you'll get voice output in FM radio.
For the sub - is the amp still ON after a few minutes when it stops? I have an active sub on mine and have no issues. I'd check on what your source for "on" signal on your amp is.
Google maps voice output doesn't work no matter what I do. As a default nav app neither.
Sub is powered and it works with very low volume settings, ad soon as I turn the volume up it stops working.
ee0090 said:
Google maps voice output doesn't work no matter what I do. As a default nav app neither.
Sub is powered and it works with very low volume settings, ad soon as I turn the volume up it stops working.
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We got Google voice output working. Look into the forum.
Strange. Maybe I should reset the unit to factory settings. Reinstalling google maps did not help.
Any idea what is wrong with the sub?
ee0090 said:
Strange. Maybe I should reset the unit to factory settings. Reinstalling google maps did not help.
Any idea what is wrong with the sub?
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(have seen a few oem ones) if so it would be hooked up with the sub RCA output ? Is the amp powering down ??
If so try hooking the remote line on the amp to an 12v acc line instead. (This is no different to the headunit remote 12v output just that if you switch the head unit off the amp is still powered on , this could eliminate a headunit problem ?)
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Strange. Maybe I should reset the unit to factory settings. Reinstalling google maps did not help.
Any idea what is wrong with the sub?
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As wrx216 said. I think it might be bad wiring. try a different SUB "ON" source. For example, I tap in the + wire of my rear speaker as the power on signal for the sub amp.
Google maps voice output still does not work. I did factory reset - it did not help.
I have updated the firmware and google maps voice works fine. But sub does not work at all now.
I have connected remote wire of the sub to constant +12V output (the same as amp. power supply) - it still does not work. I have also tried to change RCA input of the amp. - still nothing.
I just installed a joying JY-UO138P4 (https://www.joyingauto.com/joying-l...ouble-din-car-audio-system-with-4gb-32gb.html ) in a 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix.
Most things work - I am still working out the steering wheel control wiring with Metra Axxess and Joying - I think this is an issue with Metra identifying the car correctly, I had a similar problem with an older metra unit on a Sony receiver.
One thing that doesn't work is accessing google voice services when I click on the microphone, I get a message 'Cannot reach google at the moment'. I am connected via wifi and can open the Chrome browser and get to google. All other internet access I tested works fine as well.
Does anyone have any suggestions on this?
p.s. I'll probably have other questions on improving the UI - would like a better blue tooth phone client, and something better with the radio.
reckert said:
I just installed a joying JY-UO138P4 (https://www.joyingauto.com/joying-l...ouble-din-car-audio-system-with-4gb-32gb.html ) in a 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix.
Most things work - I am still working out the steering wheel control wiring with Metra Axxess and Joying - I think this is an issue with Metra identifying the car correctly, I had a similar problem with an older metra unit on a Sony receiver.
One thing that doesn't work is accessing google voice services when I click on the microphone, I get a message 'Cannot reach google at the moment'. I am connected via wifi and can open the Chrome browser and get to google. All other internet access I tested works fine as well.
Does anyone have any suggestions on this?
p.s. I'll probably have other questions on improving the UI - would like a better blue tooth phone client, and something better with the radio.
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Search the forum. This has been mentioned several times. Google voice currently doesn't work. Joying is working on it.
A lot of us have questions and remarks on the UI, on a lot of aspects, and on the functionality. Most/some of us are already pushing Joying 2 years for improvements. Some improvements and bug fixes came, others not.
Please help pushing by directly mailing to Joying ([email protected]) about your comments and questions, but don't think you're the first.
You don't mention your issues with the Radio, but if it is about layout: see here.
Those radio mods are made for the Sofia units, but work just as well on your type of PX5. I'm using one of them (and the PX5 models ending on P2 or P4 can use the exact same software)
surfer63 said:
Search the forum. This has been mentioned several times. Google voice currently doesn't work. Joying is working on it.
A lot of us have questions and remarks on the UI, on a lot of aspects, and on the functionality. Most/some of us are already pushing Joying 2 years for improvements. Some improvements and bug fixes came, others not.
Please help pushing by directly mailing to Joying ([email protected]) about your comments and questions, but don't think you're the first.
You don't mention your issues with the Radio, but if it is about layout: see here.
Those radio mods are made for the Sofia units, but work just as well on your type of PX5. I'm using one of them (and the PX5 models ending on P2 or P4 can use the exact same software)
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Thanks for responding, I did find a rom on their site (have the link on my home machine) , not sure it is for these devices, just says for 2gb/4gb 16gb/32gb Octacore, but from the looks of it, it is an AOSP build.
After trying an older 'personal assistant' app AVX Extreme, I found out the google speech to text module is missing. - this thread (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/android-building/Gu8c8JLMo6w) shows that it is not part of AOSP, so if we can figure out how to get the speech to text module installed, I think it will work.
As for the Radio, it is a layout thing, it is not a bad layout, but I feel it could be better somehow. I'd like to find a launcher that supports the OBD-II input for speed/etc, a nice clock, radio/volume control, and navigation
I see you also have a thread on the 8.0 build so I will follow up on there.
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Thanks for responding, I did find a rom on their site (have the link on my home machine) , not sure it is for these devices, just says for 2gb/4gb 16gb/32gb Octacore, but from the looks of it, it is an AOSP build.
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You have a FYT hardware model (models ending on P2 or P4). The firmware you see there is for the QD models which are completely different and completely incompatible with regard to the underlying hardware, drivers, etc.
Hello
i have received the P2 unit and Google voice not working
Some news from Joying about this feature?
fabien_m2002 said:
Hello
i have received the P2 unit and Google voice not working
Some news from Joying about this feature?
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Update to the latest firmware. That solves the google voice issue.
reckert said:
I just installed a joying JY-UO138P4 (https://www.joyingauto.com/joying-l...ouble-din-car-audio-system-with-4gb-32gb.html ) in a 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix.
Most things work - I am still working out the steering wheel control wiring with Metra Axxess and Joying - I think this is an issue with Metra identifying the car correctly, I had a similar problem with an older metra unit on a Sony receiver.
One thing that doesn't work is accessing google voice services when I click on the microphone, I get a message 'Cannot reach google at the moment'. I am connected via wifi and can open the Chrome browser and get to google. All other internet access I tested works fine as well.
Does anyone have any suggestions on this?
p.s. I'll probably have other questions on improving the UI - would like a better blue tooth phone client, and something better with the radio.
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Dit you managed to get the steering wheel control wiring with Metra Axxess to work on your Joying? I also need a canbus decoder for the joying i'm planning to buy. Can you recommend the Metra Axxess, and is it difficult to connect the wiring?
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Dit you managed to get the steering wheel control wiring with Metra Axxess to work on your Joying? I also need a canbus decoder for the joying i'm planning to buy. Can you recommend the Metra Axxess, and is it difficult to connect the wiring?
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Yes- I got it to work, though don't ask how I had multiple back and forths with Metra on it- for some reason the Axxess could not properly detect my car, metro told me the instructions printed and on the pdf could be wrong and I should try ""VOL UP, SEEK UP, BAND, MUTE, VOL UP"" - but that didn't work. At one point I got frustrated working on the car, and reset the Axxess for the 20th+ time, and didn't notice the steering wheel was turned, so i hit the buttons 'upside down' - I am not sure the combination, but once that happened everything is working good.
In my car, two of the buttons overlap - so I have 6 buttons I can assign instead of 8, but the important one (Seek/Volume/Mute) are mapped so I am happy.
I am not using CANBUS on my car, so I can't speak to that, though I am trying to find out if there is any information anywhere on connecting to the build in HUD in my car.
Hi All,
Recently purchased and installed a Joying head unit (4GB, PX5 Octa Core) (link to product)
I use google music for all my music needs. I have uploaded all my personal music onto the google music cloud servers so I can stream or download them whenever I want making it an ideal solution. I installed the google music app on my android head unit and everything works great appear from one small thing.
The steering wheel NEXT and PREVIOUS buttons are not responding on the music app. Its killing me cause at the moment every time I have to change a song ive got to touch the screen (not ideal when driving).
Volume buttons work fine but ive tried different things to try and get the other buttons to work within the app like button re mappers via the app store etc.
Does anyone know of any way to get the NEXT and PREVIOUS song wheel buttons to work with the google music app. I will love you so much
I think its a software thing with the app cause poweramp and some other music players work with the wheel buttons. If this is the case I was hoping that there is an app that can run in the background which can pickup the wheel buttons and translate them so they work with the google music app.
Any assistance would be great. I hope someone can help.
Bump. There has to be a way around this.
Bump again. Really hoping there is a solution. If not can anyone recommend another forum/discussion board to try.
Type of car, type of CANBUS adapter if any, would be helpful. Because to me it sounds like a problem on the car side, not the app side.
Tried using the forward/back buttons on a different app or via Bluetooth pairing?
Croak said:
Type of car, type of CANBUS adapter if any, would be helpful. Because to me it sounds like a problem on the car side, not the app side.
Tried using the forward/back buttons on a different app or via Bluetooth pairing?
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Car is Toyota Aurion/Camry.
So as in original post I can confirm it works on other apps such as poweramp and even the stock bluetooth player but on google music its not working. Im pretty sure its a google music app issue but im hoping there is a work around.
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I have a same problem. The Next & Previous button does work with stock music and radio though but not with downloaded apps. Either it Spotify, Google Music, PowerAmp, VLC or AIMP. The Volume button working fine though. Appreciate if anyone have a solution.
Thank you in advance.
Seems like those controls are only directed into built-in media apps (radio etc). I found an app to translate the signal to universal: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.petrows.mtcservice&hl=en_CA
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Seems like those controls are only directed into built-in media apps (radio etc). I found an app to translate the signal to universal: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.petrows.mtcservice&hl=en_CA
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Hi @rewen thanks for the reply. Well I have installed the app few weeks ago unfortunately it doesn't works with my Head Unit. Can't even run the app.
My Device.
- Quadcore T3 K2001M
- Android 6.0.1
- CanBox V0.01
Kakamal said:
Hi @rewen thanks for the reply. Well I have installed the app few weeks ago unfortunately it doesn't works with my Head Unit. Can't even run the app.
My Device.
- Quadcore T3 K2001M
- Android 6.0.1
- CanBox V0.01
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Doesn't work with mine either. Runs but has no effect. PX6 Android 9
Back in 2017 I installed the Joying JY-UL124N2 SoFIA in my 2006 Dodge Ram. With lots of help from this forum I was able to get it working the way I wanted......I was able to get "OK Google" to work as it should, along with tweaks so that I could use Tasker and lots of other issues I cannot even remember..... but overall I was happy with it......anyway, moving forward this unit has acquired too many bugs and I do not have time to tinker with it. I would like to replace it with something that will work exactly as if I installed an Android tablet in my dash but also plays AM/FM. My requirements are.......
Volume knob on left
reverse camera input
video input for my front camera
dash cam....USB
RCA output for Kenwood amp
Sub output
DO NOT want DVD/CD
steering wheel control
MUST have working Google Play Store
As I stated, I am not looking to make a hobby out of making one work as it should.........Does such a unit exist?....
Have you looked at the Atoto A6? It seems to meet all your requirements except for the volume knob. It also has dual Bluetooth. Also the unit is not rootable but from what I gather reading and watching videos...it really doesn't need to be. I just purchased one and am going to install it later today. It's on my bench right now. I've been configuring it and am impressed so far.
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Have you looked at the Atoto A6? It seems to meet all your requirements except for the volume knob. It also has dual Bluetooth. Also the unit is not rootable but from what I gather reading and watching videos...it really doesn't need to be. I just purchased one and am going to install it later today. It's on my bench right now. I've been configuring it and am impressed so far.
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Thanks. ...I'll check it out. I'd like to know if "ok google" and Google assistant work, does it give turn by turn voice navigation?
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Thanks. ...I'll check it out. I'd like to know if "ok google" and Google assistant work, does it give turn by turn voice navigation?
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Yes sorta....Apparently google changed something and they are using a workaround using the HOUND app. The Atoto has dual bluetooth so you can tether your phone's internet over bluetooth. I will say that google assistant works when you hit the little google microphone and works pretty well. Also voice navigation in Waze works straight away. I literally just got it installed today and am still learning. You can read several threads about Atoto on here.