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22.21.11 on pure edition...INSANE battery life!

So I had awesome battery life on kit Kat. 5:30-6hr SOT, 14-20 hr total. Loving it.
Then got the official 5.0 update. Battery life tanked. 3:30-4:30 SOT MAX. Still got good overall, but was losing battery life everywhere. Tried numerous things, couldn't get better.
Then a few days ago I got the 22.21.11 update.
Yesterday, I got 7hr 11m SOT. Today, I'm on track for the same. Anyone else getting results similar?

qwerty12601 said:
So I had awesome battery life on kit Kat. 5:30-6hr SOT, 14-20 hr total. Loving it.
Then got the official 5.0 update. Battery life tanked. 3:30-4:30 SOT MAX. Still got good overall, but was losing battery life everywhere. Tried numerous things, couldn't get better.
Then a few days ago I got the 22.21.11 update.
Yesterday, I got 7hr 11m SOT. Today, I'm on track for the same. Anyone else getting results similar?
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This is awesome news. I returned my nexus 6 because it was very difficult to handle with one hand, which is important to me, and have been thinking about the new moto x but the battery life held me back some. Now I will take it into consideration again. Curious to hear what others are seeing in the battery department after this update.
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I guess my question is how? I know all the battery tricks and have good signal, and I'm lucky to pull 4 hours screen on time.
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You must not be using location services or syncing much.

gotzaDroid said:
You must not be using location services or syncing much.
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Further clarification:
Everything on except NFC. Location servixes on battery saving. Everything syncs regularly (dont use facebook or any social media), email, tapatalk, games etc. Screen is set to adaptive brightness.
Right now im at 6hr SOT, with 30% battery left. Off tge charger at 9:45 am.

qwerty12601 said:
Further clarification:
Everything on except NFC. Location servixes on battery saving. Everything syncs regularly (dont use facebook or any social media), email, tapatalk, games etc. Screen is set to adaptive brightness.
Right now im at 6hr SOT, with 30% battery left. Off tge charger at 9:45 am.
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Crap... The only difference in my usage is I have high accuracy on and I do use Facebook. I'm going to have to do some testing to see which one is killing more battery (my guess, Facebook)

gotzaDroid said:
Crap... The only difference in my usage is I have high accuracy on and I do use Facebook. I'm going to have to do some testing to see which one is killing more battery (my guess, Facebook)
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What network are you on? I'm using straight talk on at&t. I've heard that can make a difference in battery performance as well. I get an excellent signal most of the time.

qwerty12601 said:
What network are you on? I'm using straight talk on at&t. I've heard that can make a difference in battery performance as well. I get an excellent signal most of the time.
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T-Mobile, but even all day on Wi-Fi doesn't get me your SOT.

Hmm well I've never used a Facebook app so I don't know the effects it has on battery life. But I'm sure it makes a difference

BT/WIfi/Location High on here. 2h 31m screen on time, I am at 29%. Google Play Services making up 16% of battery usage with screen at 9%. (on 22.21.11 clean install)

I've gotten much better battery life on .11
This was my first full day on it and so far I'm at 42%
Usage time 14h 44m
Phone - 1:01
Screen - 1:48
BT/NFC/Location bat sav/Moto adapt screen
I don't see how I could get 7 hours screen time...maybe if I have screen at min setting (which is useless to me) or if I stay in a dark room all day during usage...and then I doubt it.

crawlgsx said:
BT/WIfi/Location High on here. 2h 31m screen on time, I am at 29%. Google Play Services making up 16% of battery usage with screen at 9%. (on 22.21.11 clean install)
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I am right there with you. I feel like some of these SOT and battery times people are posting are unreasonable and unrealistic.
My following settings:
-I have Facebook and Messenger greenified (only launch them here and there)
-Google Now is Off
-Location Services are off (High Accuracy though)
-Sync limited to only Gmail/Calendar/Contacts/Chrome/Play Music
-Wifi Off
-Bluetooth Off
Even with those settings and the screen brightness turned down I get the following.
25% currently (6:45am til 11pm)
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19% == Voice Calls (3:34m)
12% == Google Services
8% == Cell Standby
5% == Android OS
4% == Screen (1:42m SOT)
4% == Gmail
It doesn't make sense, even with multiple wipes and fresh installs, Cell Standby and Play Services are always issues for me, yet with the same settings they aren't on my old Moto X. I also recently switched from AT&T to T-Mobile and still nothing changed with cell standby usage. I am aware that my Voice calls will be higher since I am on my phone using it, but on days when my phone isn't getting as many calls, I only pull about 2:30-3hr SOT compared to 4-5 SOT people are bragging about.

My stats as of now. Came off the charger at 9:45, so 13.5 hours total

crawlgsx said:
BT/WIfi/Location High on here. 2h 31m screen on time, I am at 29%. Google Play Services making up 16% of battery usage with screen at 9%. (on 22.21.11 clean install)
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Just quick question, how do you clean install latest version? Or do you mean factory reset? I want to do like a format and clean install latest version but I'm guessing I would need to wait for moto?

jaypr9 said:
Just quick question, how do you clean install latest version? Or do you mean factory reset? I want to do like a format and clean install latest version but I'm guessing I would need to wait for moto?
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I mean restoring KitKat first (Full wipe, includes partition gpt) and then pushing the OTA updates.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/guide-update-xt1095-pure-edition-to-t2937074
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BrokenWall said:
I am right there with you. I feel like some of these SOT and battery times people are posting are unreasonable and unrealistic.
My following settings:
-I have Facebook and Messenger greenified (only launch them here and there)
-Google Now is Off
-Location Services are off (High Accuracy though)
-Sync limited to only Gmail/Calendar/Contacts/Chrome/Play Music
-Wifi Off
-Bluetooth Off
Even with those settings and the screen brightness turned down I get the following.
25% currently (6:45am til 11pm)
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19% == Voice Calls (3:34m)
12% == Google Services
8% == Cell Standby
5% == Android OS
4% == Screen (1:42m SOT)
4% == Gmail
It doesn't make sense, even with multiple wipes and fresh installs, Cell Standby and Play Services are always issues for me, yet with the same settings they aren't on my old Moto X. I also recently switched from AT&T to T-Mobile and still nothing changed with cell standby usage. I am aware that my Voice calls will be higher since I am on my phone using it, but on days when my phone isn't getting as many calls, I only pull about 2:30-3hr SOT compared to 4-5 SOT people are bragging about.
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qwerty12601 said:
My stats as of now. Came off the charger at 9:45, so 13.5 hours total
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BrokenWall you and I both have high usage from Google Play Services, Qwerty here has 7h of screen on time and somehow Google Play services doesn't use anything. Makes no sense to me either.
Qwerty do you have Google Now / Location turned off?
I am just guessing that Google Now is our high Google Play Services usage? I really don't know.

I'd rather carry around a spare charger than turn Google Now off.
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crawlgsx said:
I mean restoring KitKat first (Full wipe, includes partition gpt) and then pushing the OTA updates.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/guide-update-xt1095-pure-edition-to-t2937074
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BrokenWall you and I both have high usage from Google Play Services, Qwerty here has 7h of screen on time and somehow Google Play services doesn't use anything. Makes no sense to me either.
Qwerty do you have Google Now / Location turned off?
I am just guessing that Google Now is our high Google Play Services usage? I really don't know.
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Yeah I have wiped the phone via a factory restore as well as done a full format and manually flashed the 11.6 update to try to resolve issues with a possible bad flash. And yes as stated Google Now is off for me, always has been.
No matter what my phone has always had Cell Standby as being higher on the list then everyone else, also lately with Lollipop I have had Play Services pushing towards the top. Issue here is that people brag about the screenshots and I don't really care to believe that 7H of SOT is his normal usage for his daily routine. And while I can see people getting 3h SOT without problems, there has to either be something wrong with some of the phones or something we just aren't aware of.

Facebook and other social networking apps will rape your battery. When I got the z3 compact I couldn't believe the battery life some people were getting. I wasn't getting anything close to it. I removed facebook, Instagram and Twitter (only leaving g+) and my battery life got significantly better.
However, even on the Moto X without social media apps I've never even hit 4 hours sot.. I usually get like 3 and change on my Moto X.

Google Plus for me eats up more battery than Twitter or Facebook. Dont know why.

I've been using android for years now and I've never once used google now.
What is it good for? I thought it was just useless junk.

[Q] Lollipop battery life stats

Hi all,
Just wondering what the battery life is like for all you Lollipop users. I feel like the battery is around the same compared to when I was still using Kitkat.
I currently have 8 hours of screen on time with about 16% of battery left. I'm using AryaMod build March 16th 2015. No custom kernels.
Power mode setting is enabled, I don't listen to music, no GPS, no web browsing, but occasionally I do watch a few Youtube videos. I also use a lot of Memedroid and some textings with Line.
No Xposed installed (don't want to mess with it until it's stable for Lollipop) but I do use Greenify.
Anyway, most people might think 8 hours of SOT is a lot with 16% battery left. But if I look at BBS, the stats are rather disappointing. There are a lot of Google Play Services wakelocks (even though Google Play Services is already Greenified). I also see a lot of PowerManageService.Wakelocks under Kernel Wakelock. I've done the best I could to troubleshoot this but it seems like there's not much else I can do to optimize it.
Just wondering what battery life you guys are getting?

no one?

I justupgraded yrster to 5.0 on my note 3 and it is draining a lot fater. If there was a root i would get rid of the stock aps that run in the backround. I would say it could use a partial charge around 4pm if i take it off the charger at 630am

Standby Battery Drain

I've had the phone just a week and if I am using heavy then the battery is pretty good, lasts 4 hours plus. Better than my G5.
However, if I am barely using and only sending the occasional WhatsApp and not much else, then the battery doesn't seem to last as long, for example it drained to 50% today with very little use, only 1 hour of SOT. Wifi and location were on, but Bluetooth off.
I've taken some screenshots of battery stars with gSam. Could someone help me decipher what is causing the drain? Or if this is normal behaviour?
Everyone is saying that this phone has amazing standby battery life because of 7.0, Doze, etc. So I am confused!

mcall_r said:
I've had the phone just a week and if I am using heavy then the battery is pretty good, lasts 4 hours plus. Better than my G5.
However, if I am barely using and only sending the occasional WhatsApp and not much else, then the battery doesn't seem to last as long, for example it drained to 50% today with very little use, only 1 hour of SOT. Wifi and location were on, but Bluetooth off.
I've taken some screenshots of battery stars with gSam. Could someone help me decipher what is causing the drain? Or if this is normal behaviour?
Everyone is saying that this phone has amazing standby battery life because of 7.0, Doze, etc. So I am confused!
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Looks like you have something running in The background keeping it from falling into deep sleep which is why. Unfortunately I suck @ troubleshooting these kinds of scenarios. My guess would be a Google service of some type. My brother had a problem with Gmail one time that was draining his battery while the phone was in sleep

Active battery drain

i'm getting an average drain of 9.5% per hour and i've tried different kernels , upon flashing the kernel for the first day i'd get about 8 or 7.7 ℅ drain per hour but after a day or two it jumps back up to 9.5 - 10 is this too much for active drain?? can this be fixed with a kernel or a custom rom? Btw i forgot to mention i'm getting this active drain at about 10-15 % brightness and i'm also running the latest franco kernel with no limits rom, i would really appreciate it if someone could help me out .

Wait, this means you are getting SOTimes of about 10 hours?

nxss4 said:
Wait, this means you are getting SOTimes of about 10 hours?
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nope only about 8 hours because of idle drain i guess

You are talking about drain while the screen is on? That doesn't seem like a high number to me. You might be able to extend that by choosing the most battery friendly governor, under clocking the CPU or some other things that will make the performance of the phone suffer--but I'm not sure why you would want to waste money on a powerful phone and then throttle everything to maximize battery life. I suppose you could also go into the Developer Settings and severely limit the number of background processes that are permitted to run and also keep the phone running in battery saver mode most of the time. It's ultimately your phone. I'm sure you can find some tips for extreme battery savings if you do a Google Search.

I get about 7.5-8% drain with my screen on based on AccuBattery and about .3-.7% with idle drain (screen off). The combined drain is about 2.8-4% per hour based on usage obviously.
For basic info, I'm on auto brightness, stock OOS and stock kernel and I'm a medium/heavy to heavy user. I use my phone A LOT for work and play.
If you do a lot of web surfing, I found that habit browser is the most feature packed browser and the lightest on battery drain, and it's free with an ad blocker! So that could help some.

Eric214 said:
I get about 7.5-8% drain with my screen on based on AccuBattery and about .3-.7% with idle drain (screen off). The combined drain is about 2.8-4% per hour based on usage obviously.
For basic info, I'm on auto brightness, stock OOS and stock kernel and I'm a medium/heavy to heavy user. I use my phone A LOT for work and play.
If you do a lot of web surfing, I found that habit browser is the most feature packed browser and the lightest on battery drain, and it's free with an ad blocker! So that could help some.
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wow you must be getting amazing SOT, thanks alot for your help i guess ill have to try stock rom and kernel

Battery life numbers

Could we share some SOT or numbers with the Mi Max 2? I'm considering getting this phone over another brand.

With Lineage OS, I usually get 10-12 hours of SOT.. Using MIUI, it's about the same

zeloleoz said:
With Lineage OS, I usually get 10-12 hours of SOT.. Using MIUI, it's about the same
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On MIUI for some reason, i don't get as much SOT like on Lineage. I'm using always the same apps on LOS like on Miui, but somehow my battery doesn't last so good, like it's draining. I open the battery usage, and there is that Android system which always has the high battery usage, lik 45%+. Tried different ROMs, many times, nothing, the same thing. Probably some of my apps which i use are killing MIUI.

8h sot 6 of them in a online game...
Couple of phone calls, some sms...
Wifi always on and 26h between charges...

ekin_strops said:
On MIUI for some reason, i don't get as much SOT like on Lineage. I'm using always the same apps on LOS like on Miui, but somehow my battery doesn't last so good, like it's draining. I open the battery usage, and there is that Android system which always has the high battery usage, lik 45%+. Tried different ROMs, many times, nothing, the same thing. Probably some of my apps which i use are killing MIUI.
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What others ROM did you use

Vz97 said:
What others ROM did you use
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Global Miui, china, developer, Xiaomi EU rom, Miui PRO.

LineageOS. No google services, no google apps, no google anything. Open Source for as long as it is achievable.
5 days between every charge (30 percent left).
F-droid is mostly where I get my APKs.
Specialized TWRP for Mii Max 2.
I'm a modest user. I don't play any games. I use my phone for Telegram, SMS, phone calls, reddit, web browsing, and E-mail.
Live background, 24/7 wifi (not standby), lte, GPS and Bluetooth (for my headphones and pebble smartwatch).
Using microg, fakestore and unifiedlp for GPS and Google framework.
Root apps are adaway. I also have magisk with xposed (systemless) installed.
Having little to no google really helps save battery time.
Having said that, I also have no key tones or vibration active for any keypresses and I've gone through absolutely all the settings and done what I can to optimize battery usage.
I don't know about my SOT because I generally don't care to look (So many days between charge).
Funnily (and it is wrong), my battery stats shows my battery capacity at an estimated 6000 mah.
It drains about 2 percent in deep sleep (night time, 7 hours), because of polling.
Right now it's at 97% with 14 hours since last charge.

Hey guys
I have question
Miui pro or lineage? Which one better than in battery life?
I can't diagnose well