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Samsung and Verizon

Samsung and Verizon is a bad combination. I own a fascinate and a galaxy tablet. Both items have service thru Verizon. I have to say that I am upset that the fascinate was the last galaxy s to get froyo and now the g tablet thru Verizon will probably be the last to get gbread. Samsung and Verizon has really pushed me to the edge with their update history. Verizon to be such a large company, but to come in last place for updates. My galaxy tablet will probably be my last purchase of a Samsung product from Verizon. My sanity is only intact because of the devs on this site. Thank you to all the devs on this site . I am just venting lol.
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and are you relieved now? lol

gralolor said:
and are you relieved now? lol
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No, lol...Thanks for asking

neo4uo said:
Samsung and Verizon is a bad combination. I own a fascinate and a galaxy tablet. Both items have service thru Verizon. I have to say that I am upset that the fascinate was the last galaxy s to get froyo and now the g tablet thru Verizon will probably be the last to get gbread. Samsung and Verizon has really pushed me to the edge with their update history. Verizon to be such a large company, but to come in last place for updates. My galaxy tablet will probably be my last purchase of a Samsung product from Verizon. My sanity is only intact because of the devs on this site. Thank you to all the devs on this site . I am just venting lol.
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Hi Neo:
I'm afraid it's not just a Verizon/Damsung thing. It's a Verizon thing only. They are late to market with every technology and phone and late (if ever) to market with updates on all of the phones they carry that have equivalents on any other carriers
This is the primary reason I left Verizon and switched to AT&T. Some claim that this is because of Verizon's much stricter and lengthier testing procedures, but their phones are no less buggy than those on AT&T. I've experienced similar frustrations and delays with every Smart Phone or tablet that I have ever owned from Verizon without exception (about 8 over the years). Unfortunately their network is still the best in terms of 3G coverage and continuity, and in terms of voice coverage and continuity.
That and the availability of a $20/month data plan is why when I got the Galaxy Tab, I got it on Verizon. I knew though that I was locking my tab into the slowest updating network.
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The new Sprint GB update is working on the Verizon tab. So in the end it's all good. In the development section there is a new GB ROM dedicated to the Verizon tab as well as the Honeycomb development by spacemoose so stay tuned for updates on that. She specifically has the VZW version of the tab. So all is not lost

powerserge1 said:
The new Sprint GB update is working on the Verizon tab. So in the end it's all good. In the development section there is a new GB ROM dedicated to the Verizon tab as well as the Honeycomb development by spacemoose so stay tuned for updates on that. She specifically has the VZW version of the tab. So all is not lost
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This is really our only hope.
Certainly I am never going with any Verizon product again (should have known better from the outset too).

ap77 said:
This is really our only hope.
Certainly I am never going with any Verizon product again (should have known better from the outset too).
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Same. VZW has the best cell coverage where I live, so I'm going to keep my dumb phone with them, but once my contract for my Gtab is over, I'll migrate to elsewhere for my data needs.

I completely agree... I love by SGT form factor but I absolutely HATE the OS. I want a real ROM for it but it doesn't look good.
I am loading the Sprint update now located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161033
We will see if it works out.

Where in the world is the Verizon 5.1.1 update?

Seriously, why so long? This seems absurd even for Verizon.

rushless said:
Seriously, why so long? This seems absurd even for Verizon.
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Any other carrier Note 4 or international model got 5.1.1?

droidguy22 said:
Any other carrier Note 4 or international model got 5.1.1?
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Yes. Sprint got it a month ago.

I was thinking that it was taking abnormally long too, but since AT&T and T-Mo haven't gotten it yet, it makes me wonder. Especially since part of T Mobile's Note 4s have it and the others don't. (The ones with a different model number have them, but the original model numbers don't.)
Perhaps they are fine tuning stuff for the Qualcomm models and used Sprint as a guinea pig since Sprint barely has any subscribers anymore, it probably makes a great lab rat!

rushless said:
Seriously, why so long? This seems absurd even for Verizon.
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It is quite possible they are just going straight to Marshmellow. T-Mobile announced 6.0 update soon, perhaps AT&T and Verizon are doing the same.

KennyG123 said:
It is quite possible they are just going straight to Marshmellow. T-Mobile announced 6.0 update soon, perhaps AT&T and Verizon are doing the same.
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I don't think so! I believe that we won't get 6.0 update in 2015. It's most likely that US carriers (VZW, ATT, TMB, and USC) will follow the international variants and push 5.1.1 update in 2015 (probably, it's due in October) and wait too long for the next big thing (M) sometime in 2016, after releasing it for the 2015 flagships (S6 and its family) in the next few months. However, I hope you're right.

Verizon always seems to be last and not fair to the older phones in the cue. To me we paid out our cash way before the S6 owners , no offense. I think the S4 will be the cut off so, why not be fair and start from that. Verizon, at least on the phone and in the stores, always bring up loyalty, show it!
But I wonder if it has anything to do that Verizon is a CDMA system

KennyG123 said:
It is quite possible they are just going straight to Marshmellow. T-Mobile announced 6.0 update soon, perhaps AT&T and Verizon are doing the same.
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interesting. surprised we havent seen any leaks of a note 5 or s6 on 6.0

oneandroidnut said:
interesting. surprised we havent seen any leaks of a note 5 or s6 on 6.0
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Leaks seem to be a thing of the past...rarely see them anymore. The 2 new nexus devices won't ship for another 3-4 weeks and that is more or less the official unveiling of 6.0, even though other Nexus devices are getting updates starting now. Then about a month after that you will see other devices getting updated. Samsung has to incorporate TW, HTC has to incorporate Sense 7, LG - LG Home, so those will take a little longer.

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Leaks seem to be a thing of the past...rarely see them anymore. The 2 new nexus devices won't ship for another 3-4 weeks and that is more or less the official unveiling of 6.0, even though other Nexus devices are getting updates starting now. Then about a month after that you will see other devices getting updated. Samsung has to incorporate TW, HTC has to incorporate Sense 7, LG - LG Home, so those will take a little longer.
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True. It will be interesting to see how they integrate tw to 6.0

oneandroidnut said:
True. It will be interesting to see how they integrate tw to 6.0
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This is Verizon. We'll get 6.0 next year if we're lucky.
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I read some carriers in Canada are receiving 5.1.1 on Note 4 via OTA.

AT&T got it today. I'm guessing T-Mobile will be next and We'll get it in January.

6.0.1 in February...

According to Pocket-Lint, Android 6.0 update is set to land on the Note 4 next month.
Of course.... who knows when VZW will acquiesce. Can't wait to move up from KK to a decents OS. :good:

Knowing Verizon they will be the last ones to release it. I'm betting we don't see it until at least April or may.

I doubt it will land on our devices in February. The international Note 4 will be getting it in February however.

droidx2.3.3 said:
Knowing Verizon they will be the last ones to release it. I'm betting we don't see it until at least April or may.
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of 2017, yeah. April or may? lmao not happening this year man. took 9 months for them just to get out 5.1 lol
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If you recall, last year our Lollipop update came after some carriers updated the GS4, GS5 and the Note 3. That stupid virtual reality porn headset thing (oh, you can use it for stuff other than porn??) delayed our update.
Let's hope something comes up and delays it for the Note 5 and the GS6. LOL

I'm not going to hold my breath.

Me neither. They just released 5.1.1. It'll be months and months before they can be bothered to release marshmallow.
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usmaak said:
Me neither. They just released 5.1.1. It'll be months and months before they can be bothered to release marshmallow.
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I still don't even have 5.1.1 and yet it was officially released from Verizon. I'm heavily considering going to a Nexus 6P or waiting to see what the next Nexus phone is in 2016. I love my Note, and will seriously miss the S Pen and note taking capability but I really hate how much unnecessary control Verizon has over the phone I own.

Samsung has delayed their Marshmallow upgrades by two months. Woohoo! I'm assuming the update will roll out the week after my last Edge payment when I switch phones. :eyeroll:
Then again, maybe that is a blessing. Usually the last update they give to a device is the one where they royally screw up the software to the point that you want a new phone anyhow.

ecksehl said:
I still don't even have 5.1.1 and yet it was officially released from Verizon. I'm heavily considering going to a Nexus 6P or waiting to see what the next Nexus phone is in 2016. I love my Note, and will seriously miss the S Pen and note taking capability but I really hate how much unnecessary control Verizon has over the phone I own.
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I got the Note 4 for the large screen and the S Pen. It was only after using it a few times, I realized that my handwriting is terrible, I have no artistic talents at all, and the S Pen makes each of these more apparent. I haven't removed it from it's little home inside the phone since. The large screen is nice, though my screen has all sorts of quality control issues.
I too would like my next phone to NOT be tied to Verizon. I was fortunate in that I was able to get back to 4.4.4 when I realized what a train wreck 5.01 was, but it annoys me to no end that they let people sit with that on their phones for six month while trying to blame user habits for all of the issues with battery life and crashing. Total scumbag corporation move. I would leave Verizon if I could, but they're the only game in town here. Just the other day, I was explaining to my wife that my main reason for not liking this phone is that I've had it for a year and three months, and there hasn't been a useful update to it. The only updates for it have been awful.
My contract is up in October, and I'll be looking at Nexus and whatever they have at that point. Either that, or some other phone that will allow some control over what's on it.
I haven't attempted to update yet. I'm still on 4.4.4. I'm not going to update until I'm 100% sure that my phone will end up on 5.1.1. Even better if a safe upgrade path is created at some point.

I've upgraded to 5.1.1 and have not had any issues whatsoever. One thing I do though is perform a full factory reset after a major upgrade. Never had issues by doing this. I make sure my important stuff is backed up to SD card or Google drive. All apps auto install when prompted.

usmaak said:
I got the Note 4 for the large screen and the S Pen. It was only after using it a few times, I realized that my handwriting is terrible, I have no artistic talents at all, and the S Pen makes each of these more apparent. I haven't removed it from it's little home inside the phone since. The large screen is nice, though my screen has all sorts of quality control issues.
I too would like my next phone to NOT be tied to Verizon. I was fortunate in that I was able to get back to 4.4.4 when I realized what a train wreck 5.01 was, but it annoys me to no end that they let people sit with that on their phones for six month while trying to blame user habits for all of the issues with battery life and crashing. Total scumbag corporation move. I would leave Verizon if I could, but they're the only game in town here. Just the other day, I was explaining to my wife that my main reason for not liking this phone is that I've had it for a year and three months, and there hasn't been a useful update to it. The only updates for it have been awful.
My contract is up in October, and I'll be looking at Nexus and whatever they have at that point. Either that, or some other phone that will allow some control over what's on it.
I haven't attempted to update yet. I'm still on 4.4.4. I'm not going to update until I'm 100% sure that my phone will end up on 5.1.1. Even better if a safe upgrade path is created at some point.
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You might have answered this with saying Verizon is the only game in town but have you looked into Project Fi? It runs on Nexus devices and uses Sprint/TMo, I get a pretty nice employee plan with Verizon currently or I would gladly make the switch to Fi, a lot of friends back home in Michigan have and they say the service is awesome.
Still no 5.1.1 btw lol

ecksehl said:
You might have answered this with saying Verizon is the only game in town but have you looked into Project Fi? It runs on Nexus devices and uses Sprint/TMo, I get a pretty nice employee plan with Verizon currently or I would gladly make the switch to Fi, a lot of friends back home in Michigan have and they say the service is awesome.
Still no 5.1.1 btw lol
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I'm not sure if that's available where I am. I'd have to look in to it. I too get a decent discount on Verizon through my employer, and I'm stuck on this phone until the end of October. After that, I'll do my usual looking at all of the options, to find the best one. Unfortunately, cell phone providers aren't that good where I live. None of them are as good as Verizon was when I lived in the Chicago area a few years back.

Last night after talking to Verizon tech support again about not having the 5.1.1 update, I factory reset my phone after backing it up, and once I had it restored I checked for the update, it was there. In case anyone still wants it that doesn't have it, give that a try. Samsung Kies worked well for my backup/restore.

Will AT&T turn off the phones in time if you do not return it?

Will AT&T turn off the phones in time if you do not return it? Maybe a couple months or ? I wouldn't be surprised if they did.
Thinking of my options and if I can hold off until the S8 release. BTW, I don't fly commercially, but they could cripple the phone so bad it could be pretty useless.

Phredeee said:
Will AT&T turn off the phones in time if you do not return it? Maybe a couple months or ? I wouldn't be surprised if they did.
Thinking of my options and if I can hold off until the S8 release. BTW, I don't fly commercially, but they could cripple the phone so bad it could be pretty useless.
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In just got a text from ATT saying that on Oct 15, all Note 7's will officially be banned on all flights by the FAA.
As for a shut down, its possible, but not confirmed. If it happens though, it'll most likely be a few months down the road. Enough time for people to find replacement phones. I wouldn't be surprised if it was soon after the S8 launch.
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They're not going to remotely shut then all down.. Even in the policy and texts you notice that they say you're 'highly recommended' to return it. When it comes to installments, legally it may be smarter for them not to charge people, because then the 'loan' may be subject to lemon law or something similar, but that's over my pay grade.
For those worried about being shut down, just look at the Quickfire. That phone was recalled and people still have them on the network (probably only 2 or 3 after all this time). Point being, they can't just shut em off unless they can prove it's harmful to the network. While the note can seriously damage itself and possibly your leg, a defective battery can't hurt the network so we should be safe.
As silly as it is, I just can't bring myself to return it.. I've switched back to my 7 edge because work doesn't want us using Note 7's, but I'd like to keep it just on the off chance theres any new info. Definitely not paying $900 for a marshmallow device without updates though.
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They've already started. My ver 1 note 7 has its imei magically blocked and I had my imei guys to get on it and there was nothing they could do. Only way is imei swap. Took me over an month to get someone natively American on the phone at Samsung to take my exchange instead of just hanging up like an idiot. I got mine from Craigslist.

So att is blocking imei?

I'm on my note 5..but my note 7 still works

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They will block all imei's till the end of this month as I know, even if you try to unlock phone via code they won't provide it officially, I managed to request a code for unlock on this page for 30$ facebook.com/gsmserviceremote , it took 1 day and code worked
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How do you know this? What's your source.

warriorpluto said:
They've already started. My ver 1 note 7 has its imei magically blocked and I had my imei guys to get on it and there was nothing they could do. Only way is imei swap. Took me over an month to get someone natively American on the phone at Samsung to take my exchange instead of just hanging up like an idiot. I got mine from Craigslist.
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If you have yours from Craigslist, don't you think it's more plausible that whoever sold you the phone, may have ripped you off one way or another?

AT&T already stated you can use your note 7 until December 31st. Samsung plans to give everyone a free upgrade to the s8 for all of our troubles if you turned your note 7 in for another galaxy device.

b0Ne83 said:
AT&T already stated you can use your note 7 until December 31st. Samsung plans to give everyone a free upgrade to the s8 for all of our troubles if you turned your note 7 in for another galaxy device.
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Link for all that info?

borijess said:
Link for all that info?
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I was told this by an AT&T rep & here is the info on Samsung: http://www.sammobile.com/2016/10/23...tedly-let-customers-get-a-galaxy-s8-for-free/

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I was told this by an AT&T rep & here is the info on Samsung: http://www.sammobile.com/2016/10/23...tedly-let-customers-get-a-galaxy-s8-for-free/
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Where is the 31st deadline?

b0Ne83 said:
I was told this by an AT&T rep & here is the info on Samsung: http://www.sammobile.com/2016/10/23...tedly-let-customers-get-a-galaxy-s8-for-free/
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That's for South Korea only, no upgrade program here so don't hold your breath on that. Also at&t reps rarely know much more than us I don't believe that they're going to kill all devices after the new year.
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So far I haven't heard of an official final date.. as a matter of fact, I received an email today from AT&T about me turning my Note 7 in, and it stated they urged me to turn it off and bring it back, but there was no date involved or anything.

svache said:
So far I haven't heard of an official final date.. as a matter of fact, I received an email today from AT&T about me turning my Note 7 in, and it stated they urged me to turn it off and bring it back, but there was no date involved or anything.
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Me too

NOUGAT SPECULATION SUPER-MEGA-SUPERTHREAD 100% more troll-y

I think nougat will come in december. hows battery.

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I think nougat will come in december. hows battery.
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December 2017....I agree!

I just came from Sprint. We used to always get the updates first, but they too haven't received the update. So maybe next week VZW and SPR update. I mean I have 30 days to return everything and switch to T-Mobile and get Nougat, so...timer started I guess.

With what people are saying about lag and battery issues. Im not too interested yet. Of course i want it but I need it to work good.

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With what people are saying about lag and battery issues. Im not too interested yet. Of course i want it but I need it to work good.
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I'm on the T-Mobile that was posted for our phones and battery is better then mm and not seeing lag....

Nougat is now out for sprint beta testers. Verizon is now the only carrier with no update

Week of March 20th is the current date.. Check my post history if you need verification of accuracy.

Been running the Nougat Beta. It's not so bad. Best improvement is the blue light filter. Went to the T-Mobile full update. Not really any better except for less bloatware. Overall i think the best overall update for this phone is either the I phone 7 plus or the Google Pixel XL. March 20th could happen, i say not until a while after the S8 is released.

Seriously though, the nougat beta 2 is not bad, it does have a few rough spots, but they really need to kick it into high gear and roll it out. I cant imagine they havent had enough time to quash the few bugs.

Verizon support I chatted with, just told me she found the update for me to download for my s7 Edge!!!
developer.android.com...
Seriously. I just said thanks.... At least she helped with the original reason I initiated chat, I just asked about it because I always do. lol.

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Verizon support I chatted with, just told me she found the update for me to download for my s7 Edge!!!
developer.android.com...
Seriously. I just said thanks.... At least she helped with the original reason I initiated chat, I just asked about it because I always do. lol.
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Never trust those people. You where misinformed. developer.android.com has nothing to do with oem firmware. That site is for core Android development only. It has nothing carrier specific. I say this because I have used that site a lot over the past few years. It is the basis for android development.

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Never trust those people. You where misinformed. developer.android.com has nothing to do with oem firmware. That site is for core Android development only. It has nothing carrier specific. I say this because I have used that site a lot over the past few years. It is the basis for android development.
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Oh I know , lol I just ask for the hell of it pretty much.

Customer service just told me that we weren't getting the update and suggested I use my 30 day trade in to upgrade to a different device with 7.0 already...

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Customer service just told me that we weren't getting the update and suggested I use my 30 day trade in to upgrade to a different device with 7.0 already...
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There is no way that is true. If for some crazy reason that is true, I would dump verizon immediately. But there is no way that is true.

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Customer service just told me that we weren't getting the update and suggested I use my 30 day trade in to upgrade to a different device with 7.0 already...
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Yeah Verizon Rep told me the same thing sadly my upgrade isn't till September

While paying my bill stuff today the regional manager at our corporate store was visiting and the employee asked him and he called corporate and they have no information about it. Hes aware about the other carriers have released it and something should at least be said.

Got rid of my Nexus 6P for this phone...man what a bad decision, should of just waited for the Pixel.

blaze0303 said:
Got rid of my Nexus 6P for this phone...man what a bad decision, should of just waited for the Pixel.
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Depends what you're looking for in a phone. The s7 edge is better than the 6P in many ways. 6P definitely has the updates on it's side and the speakers.