Moto x play rooting problem. - X Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have been thinking to root my Moto X Play for a long time now but I have been thinking about some things lately which are as follows:
1. Can I just Unlock the Bootloader and get root from one click root apps like Kingroot?
Cause I am afraid that TWRP or SuperSU can go wrong and bricking my phone.
2. If no, then what is the use and work of TWRP recovery and SuperSU?
3. Will I get official OS updates, like nougat update is just around the corner.
Please help me out in the above mentioned thing, any help will be appreciated.

1. Kingroot is more likely to brick your phone than TWRP and SU taken together
2. TWRP gives you some extras, like it lets you backup the whole system or flash new roms. SuperSU is under constant developement so it's generallly safer to use than one-off roots like Kingroot
3. No. Official updates (OTAs) are only available for pure stock firmware

Thanks

Can I install stock firmware after rooting?

Flamester said:
Can I install stock firmware after rooting?
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Sure, but you will loose root. You can't have modified and unmodified firmware at the same time

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Root galaxy s4 on lollipop

Is there a root procedure for the galaxy s4 that's on the newest lollipop update ? I was able to root with kingroot but read its not safe to use kingroot and try install a custom rom ?
dpmeeks said:
Is there a root procedure for the galaxy s4 that's on the newest lollipop update ? I was able to root with kingroot but read its not safe to use kingroot and try install a custom rom ?
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CF-autoroot or flash TWRP then in TWRP flash SuperSU
Kingroot and SuperSU_me method works also... Watch the entire process in 2 parts... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWnYFDQ1Vio
K94U said:
Kingroot and SuperSU_me method works also... Watch the entire process in 2 parts... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWnYFDQ1Vio
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Have you lost root since? I've read a lot about people loosing root after a few hours to a couple of days. Any other issues, like random crashes / freezes / reboots?
Ezintn said:
Have you lost root since? I've read a lot about people loosing root after a few hours to a couple of days. Any other issues, like random crashes / freezes / reboots?
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That's why flashing TWRP and SuperSU is the safest/easiest way to root, it's about as straightforward as it gets
mattzeller said:
That's why flashing TWRP and SuperSU is the safest/easiest way to root, it's about as straightforward as it gets
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Wasn't aware I could flash a custom recovery on a stock unrooted phone. I don't use the s4, that's why both of the ones I own aren't rooted already, my personal phones are often rooted before I even get home from the store! I need root and su without tripping knox or making any significant changes to the current set-up on either phone. I would prefer the recovery was stock on at least one of 'em. So how should I go about this? One is a tri band and the other isn't. The dual band one needs to be as stealth as possible. Losing root really won't matter as long as the system permissions remain as is prior to losing root.
Ezintn said:
Wasn't aware I could flash a custom recovery on a stock unrooted phone. I don't use the s4, that's why both of the ones I own aren't rooted already, my personal phones are often rooted before I even get home from the store! I need root and su without tripping knox or making any significant changes to the current set-up on either phone. I would prefer the recovery was stock on at least one of 'em. So how should I go about this? One is a tri band and the other isn't. The dual band one needs to be as stealth as possible. Losing root really won't matter as long as the system permissions remain as is prior to losing root.
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Flashing a custom recovery is going to trip knox. Why do you care about knox? Triband or not flashing TWRP and SuperSU is the same. If you lose root and have things that require root to operate, you will lose the function of those things, unless it's a one off type of thing
mattzeller said:
Flashing a custom recovery is going to trip knox. Why do you care about knox? Triband or not flashing TWRP and SuperSU is the same. If you lose root and have things that require root to operate, you will lose the function of those things, unless it's a one off type of thing[/QU
It's imperative that root is stealth. Just need to give one app already running su permissions. On one device knox is monitored, that's why I care. I wouldn't care on my s5, but I never tripped it anyway - rooted with modified stock recovery, flashed MOAR, flashed TWRP. Been using MAOR and TWRP since each was first released. Been rooted on my personal devices since 3 days after the Hero was released. I've just never rooted the s4 or "stealth rooted" any device. That's why Kingroot / SSM looks promising. Any help would be appreciated.
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Easy root your Edge and other phones with Stock Kernel (no need to use a custom one)

Chainfire has developed a new SuperSu Update zip, Version 2.60 and newer 2.61.
with using this update zip, you will not need a custom kernel for getting root in future, works fine on F, FY Model on Android 5.1.1 (tested).
many, many THX to one of best worldwide developer!
This method will work on many othere phones, please read threads for more infos!
First read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/app...ersu-v2-05-t2868133/post64161544#post64161544
then download latest SuperSu Update zip here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125&postcount=3
Changelog here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23427824&postcount=3
very easy to use:
Install Stock Samsung based FW with stock bootloader etc...
Install latest TWRP
Use TWRP to install latest SuperSU Zip
Attention: If TWRP tells you SuperSU is not installed, and asks you to install it, do not do it, you will break things!
many thanks to developers!!!!!! Great new thing!!!!
Petteri said:
Chainfire has developed a new SuperSu Update zip, Version 2.60 and newer 2.61.
with using this update zip, you will not need a custom kernel for getting root in future, works fine on F, FY Model on Android 5.1.1 (tested).
many, many THX to one of best worldwide developer!
This method will work on many othere phones, please read threads for more infos!
First read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/app...ersu-v2-05-t2868133/post64161544#post64161544
then download latest SuperSu Update zip here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125&postcount=3
Changelog here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23427824&postcount=3
very easy to use:
Install Stock Samsung based FW with stock bootloader etc...
Install latest TWRP
Use TWRP to install latest SuperSU Zip
Attention: If TWRP tells you SuperSU is not installed, and asks you to install it, do not do it, you will break things!
many thanks to developers!!!!!! Great new thing!!!!
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so can i install xposed without flashing kernel?
Does this work with N915A?
Aggiefury101 said:
Does this work with N915A?
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Please let me know if you are able to root it. I am wondering if other universal rooting methods work with this phone.
Everything worked fine, you don`t need wondering...it`s Chainfire who developes here! Schould work on all phones (inkluding A VErsion) from Android Lolliopop and higher!
mtayabkk said:
so can i install xposed without flashing kernel?
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You could of already done that. I flashed xposed and it worked without root. Just flash in custom recovery
Darth-Kadd said:
You could of already done that. I flashed xposed and it worked without root. Just flash in custom recovery
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without ROOT ? how
No issues with latest stock firmware on 915G. Thanks. ?
mtayabkk said:
without ROOT ? how
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Trust me, I've done it without root. I had xposed installed before with root then I flashed the latest stock rom from n915w8 and flashed xposed right after without wiping data and it worked. I guess it was because the xposed modules were already configured but ultimately, I did not root in order to use xposed. The functionality of xposed is increased if you root. This is from my experience
The latest xposed for Samsung probably has some loop hole I'm unaware of that allows you to install it without root.
Petteri said:
Everything worked fine, you don`t need wondering...it`s Chainfire who developes here! Schould work on all phones (inkluding A VErsion) from Android Lolliopop and higher!
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the boot-loader is not unlocked for n915a currently, how can we install twrp? or you mean install supersu by odin without twrp?
step 2... Install latest twrp... How can you do that if your phone has never been rooted before?
for my note edge sprint (915p) i used CWM cos twrp didnt work. after flashing supersu said i dont have root access and if i would like to have it. I SELECTED NO. after rebooting once phone booted fine. took a while for supersu to take over things and now its all good
Petteri said:
Chainfire has developed a new SuperSu Update zip, Version 2.60 and newer 2.61.
with using this update zip, you will not need a custom kernel for getting root in future, works fine on F, FY Model on Android 5.1.1 (tested).
many, many THX to one of best worldwide developer!
This method will work on many othere phones, please read threads for more infos!
First read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/app...ersu-v2-05-t2868133/post64161544#post64161544
then download latest SuperSu Update zip here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125&postcount=3
Changelog here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23427824&postcount=3
very easy to use:
Install Stock Samsung based FW with stock bootloader etc...
Install latest TWRP
Use TWRP to install latest SuperSU Zip
Attention: If TWRP tells you SuperSU is not installed, and asks you to install it, do not do it, you will break things!
many thanks to developers!!!!!! Great new thing!!!!
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Do you by any chance have the latest twrp (2.8.0.7) in .tar file? I've been lurking around for a while now and I'm not able to find it. I can only find .img and I need Linux to convert it to .tar to be able to Odin. I've lost root and now I can't get it back.
Osaab said:
for my note edge sprint (915p) i used CWM cos twrp didnt work. after flashing supersu said i dont have root access and if i would like to have it. I SELECTED NO. after rebooting once phone booted fine. took a while for supersu to take over things and now its all good
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ok now that ive spent more time with it i believe the root i got is incomplete. on many apps supersu dialogue doesnt pop and they dont recognize the phone as rooted. i used titanium backup to try and remove system apps and despite everything going fine the apps didnt go anywhere
UPDATE: problem fixed. I edited the build.prop in /system/ using a build.prop editor and now all my apps are asking for root
In build.prop look for ro.securestorage.support=True and set it to False
Also solves if your phone keeps forgetting the wifi passwords
It works. SM-915F. Just don't forget to off 'reactivation lock' in security tab in androud in order to install TWRP successfuly. Thanks a lot!
No you're right. Twrp is in img format but you can easily convert it to tar using a linux emulator. Took me minutes to convert it to tar. Google "how to convert img to tar. Running twrp fine
Does it work in 915V ??
So,it's strange how the method works on my 915f. For example; Titanium Backup can't remove systems apps. It looks like I have a root, but not fully operated. Any advices?
Does this still trip the knox counter?
I want to root, but I must keep my warranty as this N915F is on my company's name.
benna said:
Does this still trip the knox counter?
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Yes. Knox tiked(((

Root, will updates work after?

I want to root my P8 GRA-UL10 the Chinese version, I currently am on marshmallow GRA-UL10C00B358, i want to stick with EMUI updates, but I also want root, will i loose the EMUI automatic updates if i root the device and install TWRP and Supersu?
grandixximo said:
I want to root my P8 GRA-UL10 the Chinese version, I currently am on marshmallow GRA-UL10C00B358, i want to stick with EMUI updates, but I also want root, will i loose the EMUI automatic updates if i root the device and install TWRP and Supersu?
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In order to have root you will need to install Twrp to push Su which means removing the stock recovery needed to install updates(Another way is to boot into Twrp without removing stock recovery and flashing Su but there is no benefit in doing that, Twrp is nice to have). What will happen when you have Twrp installed is you will be notified of system updates but you won't be able to install them unless you restore the stock recovery back which is easy to do. Now you may ask if i restore the stock recovery and update will i lose Root?, yes you will and you will have to flash Su again with every update that's why there is no advantage in removing Twrp unless you want to update your system.
So in short you will have to root with every update whether there is stock recovery or Twrp.
Updates what updates never had one yet.
silverblack said:
Updates what updates never had one yet.
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If you are on Marshmallow then their isn't one yet. But if you are on Lollipop it will depend on what region and country you are in. Some regions get faster updates than others but you can install them manually if you can find a rom compatible with you phone.
jamesfranco said:
my phone is rooted and system updates were not installed
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Remove root from the SU app go to settings and choose complete uninstall. Then make sure you have the stock recovery installed not twrp if you have it on you should be able to update after that. I recommend you reset the device before applying updates.

How to get OTA updates after rooting my device?

I own the 6GB Ram version of the phone and wants to root it so as to use Titanium backup to restore all the contents of my previous phone.
But the Problem is that we are still going to get some big OTA updates regarding camera and maybe more bug fixes.
I know the general procedure for rooting the device i.e. first unlock the bootloader then install a custom recovery then root.
I just wanted to ask if I just install back the stock recovery after rooting the device then will I get the Ota updates?
And I am sorry if any similar question has already been asked, I searched but didn't find any. Thanks
nitish.4you said:
I just wanted to ask if I just install back the stock recovery after rooting the device then will I get the Ota updates?
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im using twrp and magisk for root. i still get OTA updates. but only the full updates, the 1,5 gb size
after that i need to flash twrp again and then install magisk again too.
but no data lost or anything so if you can live with that, its no biggy.
Hastaloego said:
im using twrp and magisk for root. i still get OTA updates. but only the full updates, the 1,5 gb size
after that i need to flash twrp again and then install magisk again too.
but no data lost or anything so if you can live with that, its no biggy.
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Can you throw some more light on this.I just want the latest updates. Download size etc doesn't matter.
Can you tell me the procedure what you do to retain rooted access and still get latest updates.? Thanks
nitish.4you said:
Can you throw some more light on this.I just want the latest updates. Download size etc doesn't matter.
Can you tell me the procedure what you do to retain rooted access and still get latest updates.? Thanks
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i assume you know how to get root ? unlock bootloader, flash twrp, install magisk or supersu ?
well from there its just the same.
getting ota updates see attachment.
after the update you are back to stock recovery without data lost.
so just flash twrp again and install root again, thats all.
nitish.4you said:
Can you throw some more light on this.I just want the latest updates. Download size etc doesn't matter.
Can you tell me the procedure what you do to retain rooted access and still get latest updates.? Thanks
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1. Unlock Bootloader and Flash TWRP
2. Flash and Download APK Magisk 13.3 (Root + Pass SafetyNet)
3. If there is a new update go to OnePlus 5 Downloads
4. Boot into TWRP and Flash the new update.
5. Everytime you flash a new update you must also flash Magisk Root.
6. Done
Should we flash twrp recovery and root zip right away after flashing full ota package??
PrakashGD said:
Should we flash twrp recovery and root zip right away after flashing full ota package??
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You don't have to flash twrp recovery again.
You can flash a root zip right after flashing the full OTA package

Any root method for the Moto G4 yet?

Is there a working root method for the Moto G4 (Running Android 7.0) yet?
And I'm not talking about the G4 plus...
I desperately want to break my phone free.
There must be one by now.
TheTechnoToast said:
Is there a working root method for the Moto G4 (Running Android 7.0) yet?
And I'm not talking about the G4 plus...
I desperately want to break my phone free.
There must be one by now.
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G4 and G4 plus use the same method, flash TWRP then elemental x kernel and then you can root it With super su or magisk.
Enviado desde mi Moto G⁴ #StayUnbeaten
syverman said:
G4 and G4 plus use the same method, flash TWRP then elemental x kernel and then you can root it With super su or magisk.
Enviado desde mi Moto G⁴ #StayUnbeaten
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Thanks for the reply! Is there a guide to do this?
TheTechnoToast said:
Thanks for the reply! Is there a guide to do this?
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I wanted to try it but I have a problem with the bootloader that I can not unlock because my computer is the amazon version that no one could remove said ads in the latest security update NPJ25.93.14.5, if anyone knows of any solution I will be grateful .
TheTechnoToast said:
Thanks for the reply! Is there a guide to do this?
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This guide shows you how to root with SuperSU https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...de-root-moto-g4-plus-supersu-android-t3587918
Ensure you've flashed a custom kernel such as ElementalX before rooting, else you'll trip anti-rooting protections built into the stock kernel, which may necessitate a re-flash of your stock ROM. You may wish to use newer versions of SuperSU. Alternatively, if you wish to use magisk for rooting, you can have a look at this guide I've written based on the above link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72496111&postcount=270
I've used this method to root a G4 Plus running NPJS25.93-14-8 (June 2017 stock ROM) with magisk 13.3 and have EX Kernel Manager, Amaze and other root utilities running okay. Furthermore, with the built-in root hiding abilities of magisk, SafetyNet dependent apps appear to run okay. I believe SuperSU has a similar addon to hide root from various detection methods too.
Something I've run into with using the stock ROM with TWRP is that Google Play Store may show an error 0 when attempting to download apps or updating. Seems this is related to permissions issues on the data partition and you may be able to correct them with this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73604008&postcount=19
As mentioned above, the same steps should apply to G4 devices (and has been tested on G4 devices). As usual, unlocking your bootloader will wipe your device (as a security measure) so back up your data and move it off your device. You may wish to back up your SD card if adopted as internal storage (or find a way to save your encryption key). Also, requesting the unlock key from Motorola, regardless of whether you use it, appears to void your remaining service warranty.
Futhermore, once rooted, you will not be able to accept OTA updates, and attempts to do so will soft-bootloop your device unless you boot to bootloader and select 'Start' to boot to system. To accept OTA updates, you'll have to revert back to a clean stock ROM (and of the same build or newer - attempts to revert back to older stock ROMs than what you had, especially if you were previously on the March/June 2017 patch level, have a nasty habit of hard bricking if you took OTA updates).
If you're okay with all that, then good luck rooting
echo92 said:
This guide shows you how to root with SuperSU https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...de-root-moto-g4-plus-supersu-android-t3587918
Ensure you've flashed a custom kernel such as ElementalX before rooting, else you'll trip anti-rooting protections built into the stock kernel, which may necessitate a re-flash of your stock ROM. You may wish to use newer versions of SuperSU. Alternatively, if you wish to use magisk for rooting, you can have a look at this guide I've written based on the above link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72496111&postcount=270
I've used this method to root a G4 Plus running NPJS25.93-14-8 (June 2017 stock ROM) with magisk 13.3 and have EX Kernel Manager, Amaze and other root utilities running okay. Furthermore, with the built-in root hiding abilities of magisk, SafetyNet dependent apps appear to run okay. I believe SuperSU has a similar addon to hide root from various detection methods too.
Something I've run into with using the stock ROM with TWRP is that Google Play Store may show an error 0 when attempting to download apps or updating. Seems this is related to permissions issues on the data partition and you may be able to correct them with this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73604008&postcount=19
As mentioned above, the same steps should apply to G4 devices (and has been tested on G4 devices). As usual, unlocking your bootloader will wipe your device (as a security measure) so back up your data and move it off your device. You may wish to back up your SD card if adopted as internal storage (or find a way to save your encryption key). Also, requesting the unlock key from Motorola, regardless of whether you use it, appears to void your remaining service warranty.
Futhermore, once rooted, you will not be able to accept OTA updates, and attempts to do so will soft-bootloop your device unless you boot to bootloader and select 'Start' to boot to system. To accept OTA updates, you'll have to revert back to a clean stock ROM (and of the same build or newer - attempts to revert back to older stock ROMs than what you had, especially if you were previously on the March/June 2017 patch level, have a nasty habit of hard bricking if you took OTA updates).
If you're okay with all that, then good luck rooting
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Thanks for this. Yes, I'm okay with all of this (I've rooted my previous phones), I'm aware of the risks and stuff. I'll give this a try ?
flako72 said:
I wanted to try it but I have a problem with the bootloader that I can not unlock because my computer is the amazon version that no one could remove said ads in the latest security update NPJ25.93.14.5, if anyone knows of any solution I will be grateful .
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Um... Could you ask questions in your own forum please? This forum is for rooting help for the Moto G4.
TheTechnoToast said:
Um... Could you ask questions in your own forum please? This forum is for rooting help for the Moto G4.
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I think he is asking about the Moto G4 Amazon version. So he is in the right forum.
Caxref said:
I think he is asking about the Moto G4 Amazon version. So he is in the right forum.
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Oh, okay. But even still - I think he should be asking the question individually. Not only would he get more help from people but it wouldn't detract from my post.
echo92 said:
This guide shows you how to root with SuperSU https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...de-root-moto-g4-plus-supersu-android-t3587918
Ensure you've flashed a custom kernel such as ElementalX before rooting, else you'll trip anti-rooting protections built into the stock kernel, which may necessitate a re-flash of your stock ROM. You may wish to use newer versions of SuperSU. Alternatively, if you wish to use magisk for rooting, you can have a look at this guide I've written based on the above link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72496111&postcount=270
I've used this method to root a G4 Plus running NPJS25.93-14-8 (June 2017 stock ROM) with magisk 13.3 and have EX Kernel Manager, Amaze and other root utilities running okay. Furthermore, with the built-in root hiding abilities of magisk, SafetyNet dependent apps appear to run okay. I believe SuperSU has a similar addon to hide root from various detection methods too.
Something I've run into with using the stock ROM with TWRP is that Google Play Store may show an error 0 when attempting to download apps or updating. Seems this is related to permissions issues on the data partition and you may be able to correct them with this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73604008&postcount=19
As mentioned above, the same steps should apply to G4 devices (and has been tested on G4 devices). As usual, unlocking your bootloader will wipe your device (as a security measure) so back up your data and move it off your device. You may wish to back up your SD card if adopted as internal storage (or find a way to save your encryption key). Also, requesting the unlock key from Motorola, regardless of whether you use it, appears to void your remaining service warranty.
Futhermore, once rooted, you will not be able to accept OTA updates, and attempts to do so will soft-bootloop your device unless you boot to bootloader and select 'Start' to boot to system. To accept OTA updates, you'll have to revert back to a clean stock ROM (and of the same build or newer - attempts to revert back to older stock ROMs than what you had, especially if you were previously on the March/June 2017 patch level, have a nasty habit of hard bricking if you took OTA updates).
If you're okay with all that, then good luck rooting
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Thanks so much! Worked perfectly on the Moto G4.
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