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G4 vs 1+2

what are the advantages/differences the 1+2 has over the g4 if both are running stock android? Any reason why you picking 1+2 over g4 or dumping the g4 for the 1+2?
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Root would be my reason at this point without seeing 1 plus 2 yet. No root on g4.

ambervals6 said:
what are the advantages/differences the 1+2 has over the g4? Any reason why you picking 1+2 over g4 or dumping the g4 for the 1+2?
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G4 has much lower performance than one plus 2.
G4 has. better camera
G4 price constantly decreases.
Oneplus 2 is developer friendly
Oxygen is almost aosp .
I recommend you to buy oneplus 2 and sell g4 if you want far better performance.
If you like better support and camera and you dont care about top performance keep lg g4.

kutulu32 said:
G4 has much lower performance than one plus 2.
G4 has. better camera
G4 price constantly decreases.
Oneplus 2 is developer friendly
Oxygen is almost aosp .
I recommend you to buy oneplus 2 and sell g4 if you want far better performance.
If you like better support and camera and you dont care about top performance keep lg g4.
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No. Let's say if both are running vanilla android. If the g4 had root I think would be ideal to compete with the 1+2 especially because it has memory card, better screen and better camera. It even costs less, $400 new.
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ambervals6 said:
No. Let's say if both are running vanilla android. If the g4 had root I think would be ideal to compete with the 1+2 especially because it has memory card, better screen and better camera. It even costs less, $400 new.
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If you had the european version of lg g4(unlockable bootloader) i would have recommended you to keep g4 .
But i insist that in raw performance the difference is very big.

kutulu32 said:
If you had the european version of lg g4(unlockable bootloader) i would have recommended you to keep g4 .
But i insist that in raw performance the difference is very big.
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Agreed. Have to see what screen does the 1+2 come out with.
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I have two G4 on ATT and both have touch issues. The battery life isn't as good as my OPO. The camera is superb compared to the OPO though.

moobieboobie said:
I have two G4 on ATT and both have touch issues. The battery life isn't as good as my OPO. The camera is superb compared to the OPO though.
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Touch screen should be easily fixed after 5 months when lg finally decides to send an update lol
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ambervals6 said:
Agreed. Have to see what screen does the 1+2 come out with.
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Qhd with 1080p battery performance would be great!!! Lol

Thinking of buying this phone

I have the letv x600 now, it is a great phone exept for the rubbish wifi signal( it is amazingly poor)
Could you tell me if i should buy this phone, what are the main problems?

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Don't do it till it gets fixed
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if this were a flagship phone, you might have a point with the select few people that are experiencing lag, those that don't, this is about the best mid ranged budget phone you can buy. Some people will say the nexus 5x isn't much more, and that's only true in the US. Outside of the US there is a pretty significant price difference, not to mention all the nexus 5x gives over the moto x play is a finger print sensor and a slightly better camera.
No SD card slot for the nexus 5x killed it as a budget device. Googles argument about SD card storage been slow is kind of moot given they are adding a feature in 6.0 called "Adoptable Storage" meaning I can turn my SD card into part of my phones memory. Meaning a 64gb SD card in my moto x play will my phone will report 80gb of internal storage. Given UHS-3 card can now reach 95mb/s read, it's not that far behind the phones storage speed (getting 125-130) on mine.
For the very select few that have lag, it seems to releated to having specific software, more commonly, having google apps 5.2 or below. Many users noting a significant increase in performance running google apps 5.3+.
The battery is amazing, the camera is about the best you'll get on a sub 400$ phone. It's confirmed we are getting 6.0 and with a SD card slot, this is easily the best budget device on the market at the moment.

Take a look at this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-play/general/moto-x-play-performance-t3186858
I think the majority of users have lag issues. To me, it's unacceptable that a Moto G 2nd gen (or even the G 1st gen) don't have this problem and the X Play does. I would definitly look at some other options if I were you, even though in this price range would be a little difficult to find something.

seco2004 said:
Take a look at this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-play/general/moto-x-play-performance-t3186858
I think the majority of users have lag issues. To me, it's unacceptable that a Moto G 2nd gen (or even the G 1st gen) don't have this problem and the X Play does. I would definitly look at some other options if I were you, even though in this price range would be a little difficult to find something.
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From what i've read it's only a small minority. I am getting this phone today and i'm looking forward to it.

dicecuber said:
I hope you get this problem then
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What kind of response is that? And don't worry. I will flash CM right away. So no, I will never get the problem you are having.

Lennyz1988 said:
What kind of response is that? And don't worry. I will flash CM right away. So no, I will never get the problem you are having.
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my micromax android one with 1gb ram and lower chipset than x play works far far better.......x play is full of lags......not only in notification bar but the whole ui

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Dude this phone is awesome... Would love to hear your review once you use this phone.... This is hardly any lag .it was mainly coz of the Google launcher... This phone is awesome.. Battery camera screen.. You can't ask for anything more

100rabh7791 said:
Dude this phone is awesome... Would love to hear your review once you use this phone.... This is hardly any lag .it was mainly coz of the Google launcher... This phone is awesome.. Battery camera screen.. You can't ask for anything more
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Stop lying man

dicecuber said:
Stop lying man
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How am i lying ? what's your problem ?

100rabh7791 said:
How am i lying ? what's your problem ?
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Ignore him. He is just frustrated. He gives these responses to everyone who thinks this is a great phone.

Lennyz1988 said:
Ignore him. He is just frustrated. He gives these responses to everyone who thinks this is a great phone.
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Oh okay .... poor him ... Love my Moto X play ...

100rabh7791 said:
Dude this phone is awesome... Would love to hear your review once you use this phone.... This is hardly any lag .it was mainly coz of the Google launcher... This phone is awesome.. Battery camera screen.. You can't ask for anything more
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I totally agree. Moto X Play is an amazing phone. Smooth as butter.

mana4.com said:
I totally agree. Moto X Play is an amazing phone. Smooth as butter.
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I don't think you've ever owned a fast phone, because you would instantly see how unresponsive this phone feels most of the time. Sure its snappy, but if you can't see that input lag, you arent very knowledgeable about the subject. I wouldn't trust your opinion for that reason.

Genetixs said:
I don't think you've ever owned a fast phone, because you would instantly see how unresponsive this phone feels most of the time. Sure its snappy, but if you can't see that input lag, you arent very knowledgeable about the subject. I wouldn't trust your opinion for that reason.
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Maybe you simply have a defective unit. Mine work perfectly and I don't have any lag. Or maybe you aren't very knowledgeable about how to use/configure your phone. I wouldn't trust your judgement for that reason.

mana4.com said:
Maybe you simply have a defective unit. Mine work perfectly and I don't have any lag. Or maybe you aren't very knowledgeable about how to use/configure your phone. I wouldn't trust your judgement for that reason.
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Maybe I do have a defective phone, but that wouldn't be my fault would it? If you can give me a video demonstrating your own touch response delay(by turning on the show touch in developer options and demonstrating it through slow and fast swipes), I'd be thankful of you. That way I can prove I can know for sure that it is or isn't a defective unit. I don't mean to start an argument anymore, but if you can help me compare the two, that would help a lot. So far I like this phone a lot except for that reason, I also bought it open box from my carrier, maybe that has something to do with it.

It's not defective, Motorola already admitted it and they are working on a fix. For the play and the style

fingerprinted said:
It's not defective, Motorola already admitted it and they are working on a fix. For the play and the style
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Source?

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Source?
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From the Moto x play performance thread
DroidX1001 said:
Its just a software issue which is also faced by few people on moto x style/pure edition. And motorola will gonna rectify it soon. I would still suggest this phone...because of amazing display in 20k..may be the best... Excellent battery life....trust me i am an Indian user n battery is amazing. Camera is pretty good too if you know how to click pictures..(dont do bad photography and blame the camera for it). Marshmallow is just around the corner... Turbo charging n all and it doesnt heat like all those chinese mi4i.....i would still suggest this or you will gonna miss on a pretty powerful smartphone. Apart from it i trust asus zenfones..they are pretty good phones...zenfone 2 is damn good but display n battery is not at all near moto x play. Samsung J7 is good is but too much bloated n i hate touchwiz UI...you can take it as an option though.
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Moving from a Samsung Galaxy 5

Thinking about moving from a Samsung Galaxy5 to the Moto G4 (amazon) for my wife. Any thoughts? Will she see an improvement that will make her happy?
Thanks

She might like the 5.5 inch screen. Also battery life is pretty good.
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Absolutely! In April, I bought the Moto G3 (2015) for my wife who had used a Samsung Galaxy 5-S for two years. She is very pleased with it and loves everything about it. The only regret she has is not waiting for the G4. She has been suffering with envy over my XT1625. Upgrading to this phone would be an even better move for your wife. :good::good::good::good::good:

denzelnuke said:
Thinking about moving from a Samsung Galaxy5 to the Moto G4 (amazon) for my wife. Any thoughts? Will she see an improvement that will make her happy?
Thanks
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You won't have the waterproof ability as much as the S5 and it's not as fast on benchmarks. The screen is nice and it's on clean Android. If she's used to TouchWiz the Samsung interface it will take a little to get used to. My GF has a J3 and likes my G4 but gets stuck in the interface.
There is no home button only on screen so if she's used to it that might be a turn off.

daverobinson88 said:
You won't have the waterproof ability as much as the S5 and it's not as fast on benchmarks. The screen is nice and it's on clean Android. If she's used to TouchWiz the Samsung interface it will take a little to get used to. My GF has a J3 and likes my G4 but gets stuck in the interface.
There is no home button only on screen so if she's used to it that might be a turn off.
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Thanks for the input. This site shows the benchmarks are better on the G4. http://www.ubergizmo.com/products/lang/en_us/devices/galaxy-s5,lg-g4/

denzelnuke said:
Thanks for the input. This site shows the benchmarks are better on the G4. http://www.ubergizmo.com/products/lang/en_us/devices/galaxy-s5,lg-g4/
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That's an LG G4. Not the Moto G4. Idk if they have that as options on that site.

daverobinson88 said:
That's an LG G4. Not the Moto G4. Idk if they have that as options on that site.
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Okay, I see that now.

Moto G4 / G5 Plus vs. Samsung Galaxy S5

Quick question. Is it worth getting a G4 Plus or G5 Plus and replacing a Galaxy S5? The S5 has had it's bootloader cracked and is now unlockable if you have the right version of it. The Specs on the S5 seem to be a bit better than the G4 or G5 plus, but I like the features of Moto's. This device would be for my sister, who is in no way a power user. I do all her technical stuff for her. One advantage of the Moto's is they will be updated to Nougat where as the S5 will be done at MM, I think. Secondly the unlocking of the Moto bootloader is crazy simple and the S5 is a bit more involved. Any opinions are appreciated. Thank you.

Go for a Nokia 6 or G5 plus.

cerberusss said:
Go for a Nokia 6 or G5 plus.
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I would wait until tests of both devices are published.

Galaxy s5 is seriously an aged device with ****tiest UI on top and lags ****! Even moto E is better in ui performance than it! Better get the g5+ variant! Releasing on March 17th
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Hari Haran said:
Galaxy s5 is seriously an aged device with ****tiest UI on top and lags ****! Even moto E is better in ui performance than it! Better get the g5+ variant! Releasing on March 17th
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I agree, but the Spec's on the older SG5 are not the bad compared to the G5 Plus. It's not like the G5 Plus totally destroys the SG5. I do like the clean Moto interface and the Moto actions. Biometric unlocking is cool too. I am leaning towards the G5 Plus but wanted to see what others thought as well.

robn30 said:
I agree, but the Spec's on the older SG5 are not the bad compared to the G5 Plus. It's not like the G5 Plus totally destroys the SG5. I do like the clean Moto interface and the Moto actions. Biometric unlocking is cool too. I am leaning towards the G5 Plus but wanted to see what others thought as well.
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I really wouldn't get an S5 unless new. The majority of S5s out there are refurbs or used, and even then they cost upwards of $200. IF you CAN get it new for under $200, pick one up. Custom ROMs are aplenty for it and it has better hardware than the G4/G5 (SD801, better camera, waterproofing, etc.).
The G5 should get Android O later this year, even given Lenovo's spotty track record on updates.
The G4 won't get O unless through custom ROMs.
Age also matters. I would say that the G5 would be a little better durability wise given its metal construction, but I also don't know how old your sister is.

negusp said:
I really wouldn't get an S5 unless new. The majority of S5s out there are refurbs or used, and even then they cost upwards of $200. IF you CAN get it new for under $200, pick one up. Custom ROMs are aplenty for it and it has better hardware than the G4/G5 (SD801, better camera, waterproofing, etc.).
The G5 should get Android O later this year, even given Lenovo's spotty track record on updates.
The G4 won't get O unless through custom ROMs.
Age also matters. I would say that the G5 would be a little better durability wise given its metal construction, but I also don't know how old your sister is.
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My original post might have been confusing, she currently has the S5. We are considering getting her the G5 Plus. She is not techie and wouldn't benefit in any way from a custom ROM. She wouldn't know how to do anything with custom firmware.

robn30 said:
My original post might have been confusing, she currently has the S5. We are considering getting her the G5 Plus. She is not techie and wouldn't benefit in any way from a custom ROM. She wouldn't know how to do anything with custom firmware.
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Ah OK, makes sense. Yeah, then I would go with the G5 Plus.
Personally, I think Lenovo dropped the ball with the Plus as the standard G has a removable back and battery, while the Plus does not.
The G4 has a removable back, and while it technically does not have a removable battery it can be removed with a few screws, connectors, and battery adhesive. So, in the long run, I would definitely prefer the G4.

negusp said:
Ah OK, makes sense. Yeah, then I would go with the G5 Plus.
Personally, I think Lenovo dropped the ball with the Plus as the standard G has a removable back and battery, while the Plus does not.
The G4 has a removable back, and while it technically does not have a removable battery it can be removed with a few screws, connectors, and battery adhesive. So, in the long run, I would definitely prefer the G4.
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It is nice that the G4 has a removable battery, but I like the specs of the G5 Plus a bit more. She will upgrade her phone again in 2 years or so anyway. If the battery can't last that long then I'm done with Moto. We will keep the S5 as a backup and I plan on unlocking the boot loader if she has the version that is unlockable.
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it looks like the galaxy S5 is still getting security patches from Samsung. I am not sure about the G5 plus. Does anyone know how much longer the Galaxy S5 will get security patches for? Thanks

S7 Edge to G5 Plus

Like the title says am I crazy? I've owned just about every flagship you can think about in the United States save for the G6 and S8 and just want something different. My Moto x 2013 was one of my favorite devices because of the size, fluidity of UI, twist to open camera, great battery life, near stock Android. What do you guys think will I regret switching to G5 Plus 4gb?
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moto g5 plus higher specs all good ratings
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i think you can switch

brandoncheney05 said:
Like the title says am I crazy? I've owned just about every flagship you can think about in the United States save for the G6 and S8 and just want something different. My Moto x 2013 was one of my favorite devices because of the size, fluidity of UI, twist to open camera, great battery life, near stock Android. What do you guys think will I regret switching to G5 Plus 4gb?
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Hope you should be fine with slow or no updates. Samsung pushes security updates frequently, while Moto comes last after the Lenovo take over. If you are fine with this limitation, then you are good to buy Moto G5 Pls.
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brandoncheney05 said:
Like the title says am I crazy? I've owned just about every flagship you can think about in the United States save for the G6 and S8 and just want something different. My Moto x 2013 was one of my favorite devices because of the size, fluidity of UI, twist to open camera, great battery life, near stock Android. What do you guys think will I regret switching to G5 Plus 4gb?
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Before switching to moto g5 plus i owned galaxy s6 becuase of stock android i love moto g5 but i miss s6 screen and audio quality.

brandoncheney05 said:
Like the title says am I crazy? I've owned just about every flagship you can think about in the United States save for the G6 and S8 and just want something different. My Moto x 2013 was one of my favorite devices because of the size, fluidity of UI, twist to open camera, great battery life, near stock Android. What do you guys think will I regret switching to G5 Plus 4gb?
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I switched from s7e to g5+.
I feels better in hand....
But ui.....freaking slow..
Like i replaced launcher with Nova launcher.
To feel little better...
But most...Autobrightness sucks alot....i mean that alot.....u will geel like wtf is wrong with it

love00054 said:
I switched from s7e to g5+.
I feels better in hand....
But ui.....freaking slow..
Like i replaced launcher with Nova launcher.
To feel little better...
But most...Autobrightness sucks alot....i mean that alot.....u will geel like wtf is wrong with it
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Your G5+ is slow??
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brandoncheney05 said:
Your G5+ is slow??
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Comparing to my s7e .....offcourse
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love00054 said:
Comparing to my s7e .....offcourse
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And i hate that stock keyboard on g5 .....samsung keyboard is best ...i have ever used.. !!!

love00054 said:
Comparing to my s7e .....offcourse
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And i hate that stock keyboard on g5 .....samsung keyboard is best ...i have ever used.. !!!
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You have something wrong with your G5+ if your S7e is faster... As far as keyboard I use Gboard for all devices but thats a personal preference
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brandoncheney05 said:
You have something wrong with your G5+ if your S7e is faster... As far as keyboard I use Gboard for all devices but thats a personal preference
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How can u compare sd 625 with flagship exynos....

love00054 said:
How can u compare sd 625 with flagship exynos....
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How can you compare stock Android to Samsungs bloat? iPhones with lower specs are faster then Android phones with higher specs because of sofrware optimization. A phone with stock Android will always be faster then a skinned one. Also the 625 is quite the performer.
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How can you compare stock Android to Samsungs bloat? iPhones with lower specs are faster then Android phones with higher specs because of sofrware optimization. A phone with stock Android will always be faster then a skinned one. Also the 625 is quite the performer.
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Bro do u have s7e ....i have ...i can feell ....n there is is huge difference btw touch response....
One thing more g5plus ...feels fragile..,on The other hand s7e has a harder digitizer...i feel it
I think it's the difference of gorilla glass

love00054 said:
Bro do u have s7e ....i have ...i can feell ....n there is is huge difference btw touch response....
One thing more g5plus ...feels fragile..,on The other hand s7e has a harder digitizer...i feel it
I think it's the difference of gorilla glass
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Yes I have the S7 edge. And I have owned almost every flagship service since the Samsung Instinct. Yes the screen is much nicer on the S7 that's a given
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brandoncheney05 said:
Like the title says am I crazy? I've owned just about every flagship you can think about in the United States save for the G6 and S8 and just want something different. My Moto x 2013 was one of my favorite devices because of the size, fluidity of UI, twist to open camera, great battery life, near stock Android. What do you guys think will I regret switching to G5 Plus 4gb?
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Unless you are a heavy phone gamer, or you require your phone to have samsung pay/android pay for mobile payments(In the US as the G5 PLUS US version does not have NFC) then I see no reason why you will regret the decision to go to a G5 Plus. It is a solid phone, and decent specs.
Points though you will notice that the screen on the Moto G5 Plus is not as vibrant as the S7 Edge. No NFC in the US version of the phone as stated before, but if you can live with those 2 issues and the fact motorola still needs better camera software (but there are other apps that do a better job on the play store if you take a lot of pictures) the G5 Plus is a solid phone. I have an S7 Edge myself just got it 2 weeks ago switching to T-Mobile. but I just purchased a G5 Plus 4GB ram/64 GB storage amazon variant for my mother in law and have been playing with it the last day setting it up for her. I like the G5 Plus...it reminds me alot of what the Moto X 2013 phone was and it feels good in the hands even with a tpu case on it(diztronic) I think it will be a great phone for Motorola if they will support the software on it for more than 7.1 update.

I just got mine up and running. Came over from an S6. Very happy so far. Tomorrow starts the battery life tests.

The speed of the animation can be adjusted in the developer settings. You should change this to 0.5x for the 3 parts, reboot. Then your phone should be feeling fast