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Hi,
I'm new to OnePlus, got my OPT last Monday.
Coming from a Nexus 5, I'm used to getting new versions of Android quickly.
For those with experience with OnePlus, how fast can we expect to get a version of 6.0 on our OPT ?
Thanks !
It took the quite a while (several months) to push official lollipop builds to the one... Hopefully they are quicker this time. Custom builds will probably be available much sooner
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Theberge43 said:
Hi,
I'm new to OnePlus, got my OPT last Monday.
Coming from a Nexus 5, I'm used to getting new versions of Android quickly.
For those with experience with OnePlus, how fast can we expect to get a version of 6.0 on our OPT ?
Thanks !
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on my OPO, i received the update to lollipop almost a year after it was introduced on the first handsets. and when I got it, i switched to CM (community version) as they had tinckered to much with stuff like the default/built-in e-mail app.
I have already switched to CM (beta) for my OPT, because i did not like OxygenOS
sdmark said:
It took the quite a while (several months) to push official lollipop builds to the one... Hopefully they are quicker this time. Custom builds will probably be available much sooner
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Yes, I figured I'll have custom ROM & Kernel (I'm on AK already just for color calibration).
What were the best ROMs on OPO ? Do you think we'll have good developers on the OPT ?
Only CM for me
Theberge43 said:
Yes, I figured I'll have custom ROM & Kernel (I'm on AK already just for color calibration).
What were the best ROMs on OPO ? Do you think we'll have good developers on the OPT ?
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I have only used cyanogenmod on my devices, nothing else. So I cannot say if one ROM should be better than another.
Regarding OPT, it would be great to reach a point where there could be an officially supported version of cyanogenmod
How do you like the OPT so far? I'm a long time Nexus user, but after a drop device my N5 is now dead which has me looking for a new phone. I was looking at the OPT and almost pulled the trigger on one, but after reading about the Oxygen OS it seems like a pretty buggy OS. How do you feel about the OS coming from the stock (I assume) android experience on the N5?
Cheers
I was a fellow Nexus fanboy who switched to the OPT. The Oxygen OS definitely has its pros and cons, but I believe the OnePlus team will send some OTA's here and there to address the issues. Alternatively, with Grarak porting over CM to the OPT so quickly, I use CM as a daily driver. The OxygenOS has a lot of great features which are not included in stock Android experience. Overall, the OPT in my opinion is well worth it.
ntagger said:
How do you like the OPT so far? I'm a long time Nexus user, but after a drop device my N5 is now dead which has me looking for a new phone. I was looking at the OPT and almost pulled the trigger on one, but after reading about the Oxygen OS it seems like a pretty buggy OS. How do you feel about the OS coming from the stock (I assume) android experience on the N5?
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For now I still miss more development options, but the phone is nice. I'm sure development will pick up with Oneplus getting their logistics have together and getting more devices out there.
For me all the negative press is mostly fan boys not getting their invite quickly.
The size takes time to adjust to, but Oxygen with Xposed and AK kernel is pretty sweet right now!
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I was a fellow Nexus fanboy who switched to the OPT. The Oxygen OS definitely has its pros and cons, but I believe the OnePlus team will send some OTA's here and there to address the issues. Alternatively, with Grarak porting over CM to the OPT so quickly, I use CM as a daily driver. The OxygenOS has a lot of great features which are not included in stock Android experience. Overall, the OPT in my opinion is well worth it.
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Oxygen defiantly sounds and look great, but I was just a bit put away when I read the OP forums about the bugs... but as with most of these things, it's the people who are unhappy that are loudest.
Theberge43 said:
For now I still miss more development options, but the phone is nice. I'm sure development will pick up with Oneplus getting their logistics have together and getting more devices out there.
For me all the negative press is mostly fan boys not getting their invite quickly.
The size takes time to adjust to, but Oxygen with Xposed and AK kernel is pretty sweet right now!
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Sorry, for hi-jacking your thread about 6.0 for the OPT. I was actually looking for a bigger screen so 5.5" seemed to be a good middle ground. I've only been able to play around with the OPT with the hydrogen OS (I live in Hong Kong),and I liked the size of the phone but not Hydrogen OS.
Im looking forward to android 6, hope its good for op2. With any phone ive had, 5 has been v poor compared to 4.4.2 (battery life and performace), hope 6 can shine for us
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Sorry, for hi-jacking your thread about 6.0 for the OPT. I was actually looking for a bigger screen so 5.5" seemed to be a good middle ground. I've only been able to play around with the OPT with the hydrogen OS (I live in Hong Kong),and I liked the size of the phone but not Hydrogen OS.
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I know 5.5 is now the middle ground, I'm just saying that coming from a Nexus 5 for the last 2 years, the jump is not that easy. I'm sure I'll be fine after a while. But right now, one handed use is difficult for me (and I have somewhat big hands), especially with the lower buttons at the bottom (I went back to on screen navigation bar).
I mean, it still packs some decent specs under that beautiful design, regardless of performance. I mean, try to buy it from their site, it won't be highlighted or something, but op2 and op3 are. Try to find some oneplus x guides, op2 guide will show up, and this goes forever, you get it. MAY I MENTION IT's august 2016, the phone came in late 2015 and we still didn't get a 6.0 update ? I bet they gave up on oneplus x and we're never gonna get a 6.0 update actually. Some shameful shi.t right here. MORE MONEY, MORE PROBLEMS I SUPPOSE. They are blinded by the tremendous success of op2 and op3 phones so they dropped oneplus x "for good". That's how i'll never stick to oneplus again.
there is no need of this anxiety, CyanogenMod already has been released marshmallow of OPX and there are many developers ROM available you can try them i would like to prefer Sultan's ROM because i am using and it is really very good and battery backup is great SoT is unbelievable 4 to 5 hours. don't worry man there is always a hope..by the way oxygen os is no so good..... sorry if my narration is not make you happy
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zsk.khan said:
there is no need of this anxiety, CyanogenMod already has been released marshmallow of OPX and there are many developers ROM available you can try them i would like to prefer Sultan's ROM because i am using and it is really very good and battery backup is great SoT is unbelievable 4 to 5 hours. don't worry man there is always a hope..by the way oxygen os is no so good..... sorry if my narration is not make you happy
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yes there is need for this anxiety, cyanogenmod has been released but there is no stable version out yet, yes there are many rom's available but everyone of them has one bug or the other, i would prefer stock rom because they have almost minor to no bugs because casual users like me dont go testing every feature of the rom after flashing. why would this matter you ask then lemme give you an example from a casual user's point of view, i'm chilling with my friends & they show me some content (might be any personal song or video) & i ask them to transfer it to me via bluetooth like any casual user & i find out that the bluetooth function is broken & that would be an embarassing situation i wouldn't wanna be in.
Pls dont get me wrong im not slandering the hard work of custom rom developers, im jus stating my point as a casual user whose not interested in SoT but just wants to feel safe knowing all the features of my phone are working well.
Many of you will say stick to oxygen 2.2 if you want to feel safe but i would say my one plus x is not that old and 7.0 is about to release im not asking for the latest but atleast give me 6.0 which even cheap & crappy chinese phones come with now a days.
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yes there is need for this anxiety, cyanogenmod has been released but there is no stable version out yet, yes there are many rom's available but everyone of them has one bug or the other, i would prefer stock rom because they have almost minor to no bugs because casual users like me dont go testing every feature of the rom after flashing. why would this matter you ask then lemme give you an example from a casual user's point of view, i'm chilling with my friends & they show me some content (might be any personal song or video) & i ask them to transfer it to me via bluetooth like any casual user & i find out that the bluetooth function is broken & that would be an embarassing situation i wouldn't wanna be in.
Pls dont get me wrong im not slandering the hard work of custom rom developers, im jus stating my point as a casual user whose not interested in SoT but just wants to feel safe knowing all the features of my phone are working well.
Many of you will say stick to oxygen 2.2 if you want to feel safe but i would say my one plus x is not that old and 7.0 is about to release im not asking for the latest but atleast give me 6.0 which even cheap & crappy chinese phones come with now a days.
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give a try to Sultan's ROM you will be not disappointed, because there is no bugs everything is working fine. you can use it like casual user or if you need root access then you have to flash superSU above than 2.6 version. how it will help you else upto you
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coldfear00 said:
yes there is need for this anxiety, cyanogenmod has been released but there is no stable version out yet, yes there are many rom's available but everyone of them has one bug or the other, i would prefer stock rom because they have almost minor to no bugs because casual users like me dont go testing every feature of the rom after flashing. why would this matter you ask then lemme give you an example from a casual user's point of view, i'm chilling with my friends & they show me some content (might be any personal song or video) & i ask them to transfer it to me via bluetooth like any casual user & i find out that the bluetooth function is broken & that would be an embarassing situation i wouldn't wanna be in.
Pls dont get me wrong im not slandering the hard work of custom rom developers, im jus stating my point as a casual user whose not interested in SoT but just wants to feel safe knowing all the features of my phone are working well.
Many of you will say stick to oxygen 2.2 if you want to feel safe but i would say my one plus x is not that old and 7.0 is about to release im not asking for the latest but atleast give me 6.0 which even cheap & crappy chinese phones come with now a days.
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never gonna buy OnePlus sh*t again...
Well im not talking about particular rom developers, they are in no way linked to the company itself. They develop custom roms for plenty of devices. As far as these goes, i tried paranoid, which is incredibly nice looking but it drains my battery pretty fast with wi-fi on all the time, and i can't connect to mobile data on either of sim cards. Sultan's xda is not any different from official cm13 rom, as far as i could tell, and any other cm13 roms for different devices. It's just the same interface im fed up with it. Oxygen os is a big dissapointment, i dont like it at all. ON THE OTHER HAND, H2os is perfect for me, perfect design, incredibly long battery life, but not quite good performances. Anyway, i bought the phone mostly cause of it's very nice looking design so i got to stick with lags in google play store.
Anyway, my point still stands. They been blinded by the success of oneplus 3 so they decided to forget about oneplus x. I bet we won't get android 6.0 at all.
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never gonna buy OnePlus sh*t again...
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Lad spoke for me! :good:
i've been saying the same shiet, just more gently. This right here is just a consequence.
no offense, but i would like to say i love my phone with custom ROM and i would suggest you guys should purchase google nexus phone if you really need latest Android and i am also thinking about but i have two sim that's why i purchased OnePlus x phone because of their commitment that they will provide latest Android but they betrayed us. Unfortunately we can't do anything despite shouting...is there any options? by the way i am happy by rooting my device and i like custom ROM.
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coldfear00 said:
yes there is need for this anxiety, cyanogenmod has been released but there is no stable version out yet, yes there are many rom's available but everyone of them has one bug or the other, i would prefer stock rom because they have almost minor to no bugs because casual users like me dont go testing every feature of the rom after flashing. why would this matter you ask then lemme give you an example from a casual user's point of view, i'm chilling with my friends & they show me some content (might be any personal song or video) & i ask them to transfer it to me via bluetooth like any casual user & i find out that the bluetooth function is broken & that would be an embarassing situation i wouldn't wanna be in.
Pls dont get me wrong im not slandering the hard work of custom rom developers, im jus stating my point as a casual user whose not interested in SoT but just wants to feel safe knowing all the features of my phone are working well.
Many of you will say stick to oxygen 2.2 if you want to feel safe but i would say my one plus x is not that old and 7.0 is about to release im not asking for the latest but atleast give me 6.0 which even cheap & crappy chinese phones come with now a days.
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well, we got lollipop with MM-like features xD
Coldfear I can't agree more with you, that's why I stick to OOS after have tested around 5 custom roms in my phone. Simply for the rock solid signal reception, the Super fast 4G, the unbeatable photo quality (yes I've tried sultans hal, but apart from fps, nothing comes close to stock camera image quality) and the fact that as a casual user all the every day features of the Rom are readily available to me when I need them. On the other hand all devs put their best efforts to provide a features rich roms and should continue doing so, in order satisfy all kind of users. Rom choice It's really a personal matter. Everyone keep up the good work.
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A CM nightly with broken features can happen anytime, but then you flash a release from another date that corrected the casual bug. That's how its supposed to work. If you find a good build you stay with that for a month at least then update. If you are not happy with the new update you go back to the rom you were using. And with twrp everything is easy, and finish in few minutes. And lets not forget that OOS 5.1 has released many updates and users are still complaining about bugs there too. Anyway I think that OPX team has done a good job with OOS, they are still updating it in a time when everyone is focused one OP3.
OP3 is the flagship, it has just been released and has attracted a huge fan base already. Its normal it has overshadowed OPX which now is a mid-range budget phone. I think that after some months, they will put some effort on bringing a full working MM on OPX. And then , start working on OP4
I remember, when OnePlus were asked why they haveused an older chipset in OnePlus X , they said that it'll help the device to have more (unofficial) development support. I think they indirectly implied ,"OnePlus X users, we won't be updating your software since we have provided you with a chip set that is going to have a great amount of (unofficial) developer support. So, don't bother us by asking for updates and let us concentrate on our "Flagship killers" ".
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Coldfear I can't agree more with you, that's why I stick to OOS after have tested around 5 custom roms in my phone. Simply for the rock solid signal reception, the Super fast 4G, the unbeatable photo quality (yes I've tried sultans hal, but apart from fps, nothing comes close to stock camera image quality) and the fact that as a casual user all the every day features of the Rom are readily available to me when I need them. On the other hand all devs put their best efforts to provide a features rich roms and should continue doing so, in order satisfy all kind of users. Rom choice It's really a personal matter. Everyone keep up the good work.
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I have to disagree with you here.
1. Picture quality is better on SulatanXDA roms. It can be subjective, but it seems so. Even my friend semi-pro photographers said so. I don't care about 4K recording/FPS much
2. There are no bugs.
3. I get 50 Mbit/s on LTE outside of the building. It differes depending on time of the day and location obviously.
Anyway I do recommend SultanXDA rom to anyone who is looking to replace buggy (yes it is buggy and never updated!!!) OOS. Love this phone.... The only thing I hate is lack of 5GHz band for wifi (it isn't even the band as the support is there, One+ was lazy enough not to put an antenna in)
So Im going to root my phone and havent flashed a ROM in a while and was wondering what is the best Google Pixel XL or Google Pixel ROM that is out. Any help is appreciated.
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So Im going to root my phone and havent flashed a ROM in a while and was wondering what is the best Google Pixel XL or Google Pixel ROM that is out. Any help is appreciated.
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PureNexus ROM is really good with battery life and even the stability. Give it a shot and also most of the Google Pixel features are already baked into this ROM. Hope you get what you are excited about
I didn't like Pure Nexus and would have recommended Cortex instead but the last two builds have been buggy--although I think a lot of that has to do with the monthly Google image the rom is built upon since similar image based roms are reporting similar issues--mainly with battery drain. I would have recommended Megapixel instead but that hasn't been updated since December. You might be stuck with Pure Nexus but since it is an Aesop based rom rather than based on the Google monthly image Google Assistant doesn't work properly for some people or stops working properly after a time. One good thing about Cortex is that GA works perfectly. I wish I had a better recommendation for you than Pure Nexus which I think is overrated but I'm still on January build of Cortex because of problems with the February and March builds. Good luck.
I tried pure nexus a couple of times. It's stable, and for me assistant have worked perfect all time.
Somehow I didn't like the Rom as much as megapixel. Cortex is buggy and I don't install it again, I have tried it 3-4 times.
I'm about to try resurrection remix now, worth a look. It comes with pixel launcher also, and having a ton of customisation.
Edit: After trying Resurrection Remix, I quickly removed it and went back to pure nexus.
I can understand that people love RR,I really do.. IF you love customization. Im not that into this stuff.
But for me, it's way too much and simply confusing. Of course, you can use the Rom without using the customisation, but then it loose some of it point I think. Pure nexus would be my number 1 recommendation.
I personally found Pure Nexus to be the most problematic rom I ever installed on any phone I have ever owned. I can't fathom why that rom is so popular. People who post problems to the forums are very frequently running Pure Nexus but always assume that whatever problem they are having has nothing to do with the rom. Unfortunately most of the devs seem to have abandoned ship where the 6P is concerned and there are only a small handful of roms still being updated. If you run Pure Nexus I hope you have a better experience than I did the two times I tried running it but if you start having issues with your phone after you flash it the problem is with the rom. Pure Nexus slowed down my phone compared to stock, caused battery drain compared to stock, caused multiple apps to crash repeatedly--and when I tried to get support all I got was attacked.
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I personally found Pure Nexus to be the most problematic rom I ever installed on any phone I have ever owned. I can't fathom why that rom is so popular. People who post problems to the forums are very frequently running Pure Nexus but always assume that whatever problem they are having has nothing to do with the rom. Unfortunately most of the devs seem to have abandoned ship where the 6P is concerned and there are only a small handful of roms still being updated. If you run Pure Nexus I hope you have a better experience than I did the two times I tried running it but if you start having issues with your phone after you flash it the problem is with the rom. Pure Nexus slowed down my phone compared to stock, caused battery drain compared to stock, caused multiple apps to crash repeatedly--and when I tried to get support all I got was attacked.
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Oh well... I really don't understand what's your point in telling someone that a ROM is so bad and that people who answered you in a ROM thread "attacked" you/your ports... Don't get me wrong, this is not a tribute i'm making here to PureNexus, nor am i trying to persude OP to choose it over another ROM... I see only 4 post from you in PN thread reporting issues. Your 1st post seems to have been ignored... Most likely because people never had such issues?! Also with adaway which i myself never had any issue using it... Here 3 users just answered, telling you they don't have issues with PN + AdAway. I don't see any attack here, do you? Finally you ended with reinstalling stock for testing purpose as kindly suggested by another user. And it seems like you weren't offended in any way since you even added a smile in the end of your post stating it resolved your issue!
Now telling someone a ROM is the worst of all simply because you didn't find your happiness is kind of offending and attacking regarding all the work @BeansTown106 puts in his ROM and for the community. Did you ever read one of the best XDA proverb that say: "logcat or it didn't happen" ? Proper logs are the least you can do when you report issues. Considering you're a member since nearly 2 years with ~ 600 posts, i think you should know that. At least, you could have asked for support from the developer.
Sorry OP, i'm kind of off topic here...
Now on topic... Yeah i do run PureNexus! And i never felt the need to swith to another ROM since. Well... Just because it works well for me doesn't mean it will work well for another user... Although normally it should, just like any other ROM on this forum!
About MegaPixel ROM, the developer's N6P is dead and he's going to upgrade to a Pixel, so no more update
I don't know about other ROMs. But since you only had two opinions, you'd better read through the developers forum and try installing a few ROMs for comparaison purpose. And if you don't like one, you can always switch to another one! At least you'll test by yourself and you'll see if it really suits your needs! :good:
Hey OP I definitely recommend PURE NEXUS or the NITROGEN OS rom.
Nitrogen OS + Flash kernel.
Pure Nexus also has an incredible user base with a ton of folks that help answer questions. I've been a PN user fairy consistently through two nexus phones. I also like Resurrection Remix.
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I personally found Pure Nexus to be the most problematic rom I ever installed on any phone I have ever owned. I can't fathom why that rom is so popular. People who post problems to the forums are very frequently running Pure Nexus but always assume that whatever problem they are having has nothing to do with the rom. Unfortunately most of the devs seem to have abandoned ship where the 6P is concerned and there are only a small handful of roms still being updated. If you run Pure Nexus I hope you have a better experience than I did the two times I tried running it but if you start having issues with your phone after you flash it the problem is with the rom. Pure Nexus slowed down my phone compared to stock, caused battery drain compared to stock, caused multiple apps to crash repeatedly--and when I tried to get support all I got was attacked.
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It sound strange. I have never had one crash and i don't have any battery drain either. In fact, my first cycle gave me over 5 hours sot, and have no wake up or other problem.
RR is as far as i know also a good ROM, but under set process i got serious lag,both times i installed this ROM. But once set up, it runs fine. But for my taste, way to much settings and customisation. If you like all that stuff, RR is maybe the way to go. PN have nice customisation also, but not too much.
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Oh well... I really don't understand what's your point in telling someone that a ROM is so bad and that people who answered you in a ROM thread "attacked" you/your ports... Don't get me wrong, this is not a tribute i'm making here to PureNexus, nor am i trying to persude OP to choose it over another ROM... I see only 4 post from you in PN thread reporting issues. Your 1st post seems to have been ignored... Most likely because people never had such issues?! Also with adaway which i myself never had any issue using it... Here 3 users just answered, telling you they don't have issues with PN + AdAway. I don't see any attack here, do you? Finally you ended with reinstalling stock for testing purpose as kindly suggested by another user. And it seems like you weren't offended in any way since you even added a smile in the end of your post stating it resolved your issue!
Now telling someone a ROM is the worst of all simply because you didn't find your happiness is kind of offending and attacking regarding all the work @BeansTown106 puts in his ROM and for the community. Did you ever read one of the best XDA proverb that say: "logcat or it didn't happen" ? Proper logs are the least you can do when you report issues. Considering you're a member since nearly 2 years with ~ 600 posts, i think you should know that. At least, you could have asked for support from the developer.
Sorry OP, i'm kind of off topic here...
Now on topic... Yeah i do run PureNexus! And i never felt the need to swith to another ROM since. Well... Just because it works well for me doesn't mean it will work well for another user... Although normally it should, just like any other ROM on this forum!
About MegaPixel ROM, the developer's N6P is dead and he's going to upgrade to a Pixel, so no more update
I don't know about other ROMs. But since you only had two opinions, you'd better read through the developers forum and try installing a few ROMs for comparaison purpose. And if you don't like one, you can always switch to another one! At least you'll test by yourself and you'll see if it really suits your needs! :good:
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I tried Pure Nexus two separate times and it was lousy both times. It's a wildly overrated rom. People claim its not buggy yet if you read through the forum people talk about bugs on pretty much every single build of the rom. I've run many roms on many phones and honestly nothing perplexes me as much as the popularity of Pure Nexus.
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I tried Pure Nexus two separate times and it was lousy both times. It's a wildly overrated rom. People claim its not buggy yet if you read through the forum people talk about bugs on pretty much every single build of the rom. I've run many roms on many phones and honestly nothing perplexes me as much as the popularity of Pure Nexus.
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Yeah sure... And yet you don't really know if the ROM is the culprit, since most of the time if not all the time, only one user reports having a specific issue. Of course, without providing any way to reproduce it, nor does he/she provides log for the developers to check. Who is to Blame? The ROM?
Pointing fingers at someone for your own mistakes or lack of common sense is easy. But who cares, it's a lot easier than trying to figure the issue on your own or help the developers to get it fixed.
Cheers, have a nice day... :good:
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I tried Pure Nexus two separate times and it was lousy both times. It's a wildly overrated rom. People claim its not buggy yet if you read through the forum people talk about bugs on pretty much every single build of the rom. I've run many roms on many phones and honestly nothing perplexes me as much as the popularity of Pure Nexus.
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Sounds like it's your problem. If you don't know how to install AdAway, then you're probably not a reliable source for bug reports. Ironically, PN is one of the most (maybe the most) stable custom ROMs for this phone.
Pure Nexus + Franco Kernel = Amazing battery life and stability.
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I personally found Pure Nexus to be the most problematic rom I ever installed on any phone I have ever owned. I can't fathom why that rom is so popular. People who post problems to the forums are very frequently running Pure Nexus but always assume that whatever problem they are having has nothing to do with the rom. Unfortunately most of the devs seem to have abandoned ship where the 6P is concerned and there are only a small handful of roms still being updated. If you run Pure Nexus I hope you have a better experience than I did the two times I tried running it but if you start having issues with your phone after you flash it the problem is with the rom. Pure Nexus slowed down my phone compared to stock, caused battery drain compared to stock, caused multiple apps to crash repeatedly--and when I tried to get support all I got was attacked.
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Lol , dang you should have known the self appointed Guardians of Devs (I think they are from middle Earth) , would find you, even in some random thread, these dudes can seek out an opportunity like an eagle spotting a mouse from the air.
Don't worry I'll drink an extra brew for you.
Give a try to Six ROM, is a Pixel themed rom and it runs smooth as it can be. Also battery life is good.
I would recommend Cortex but only if you also flash The Flash's kernel. On the stock kernel there are problems with battery drain. With Flash kernel Cortex is as smooth and bug free as any custom ROM I have ever run and it gives you a nice Pixel experience.
If i knew that this phone pixel xl has a very few ROMs and MODs i wouldn't really buy it, i prefer oneplus phones... it's just disappointing
driss.sadok said:
If i knew that this phone pixel xl has a very few ROMs and MODs i wouldn't really buy it, i prefer oneplus phones... it's just disappointing
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7.x seems like it was a real challenge for developers with the a/b partitions etc. Hoping the 8 treble improvements will help that situation out. The Sony theming engine already has helped me via substratum.
Still I'm thinking the stock room hasn't given me any reason to move. In general the deviations from AOSP I like.
But yes, sure isn't a Nexus 5.
I think it's down to the price. I see no reason to buy this to Dev on over any other device Pixel just isn't value for money and nowhere near as popular as some of the other devices out there
People griping about "Very Less DEVS" certainly won't improve the situation. Thread reported to mods. If you want to complain, at least use the right forum.
I'd rather have "very less" stable quality software rather than the trash I see in some of the custom roms.
Android has matured a significant amount since the EZroot days of the Droid 1 days to the point where the OS already comes from factory with the customization that people used custom ROMs for.
That, plus the frequency of monthly updates and the need for the rom developer to keep up with the monthy updates PLUS incorporating new ways to circumvent the safetynet check has made modifying less sought after.
I'm pretty sure the majority of people people that rooted and ran ROMs were for the purpose of increasing functionality and not solely for the purpose of saying "I modified my phone".
Placebo init.d scripts and build.prop days flooded the "developer" community for some time until people caught up with it. If a company could incorporate ways to increase speed and battery life without losing functionality, wouldn't you think they would do it so they can have an edge against their competition?
So I ask, what are you looking for in a custom rom that isn't available right now?
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I'd rather have "very less" stable quality software rather than the trash I see in some of the custom roms.
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Have to agree. I am running rooted stock and have all the mods I need with great battery life. I get the need for some people wanting to run custom roms for missing options from the stock rom, but with custom roms also comes with bugs.
Yea when I originally purchased this last year I figured the dev community would be huge. Don't get me wrong I appreciate the awesome ROMs we have just thought it would be a bigger scene. Seeing as how the phone is very expensive and if you want an unlocked bootloader you have to buy it through Google it makes sense (yes some Verizon models could be unlocked before updating). In general I still love the phone and it's by far better than anything I've had before. I don't upgrade phones often because I always wait for very good deals (Pixel for $140 new) so I'll likely have this for years.
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People griping about "Very Less DEVS" certainly won't improve the situation. Thread reported to mods. If you want to complain, at least use the right forum.
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THANK U but i think this forum is the discussion too, so it's the right place to complain.. i wasn't complaining only for mods, roms too ... i think u get my point
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7.x seems like it was a real challenge for developers with the a/b partitions etc. Hoping the 8 treble improvements will help that situation out. The Sony theming engine already has helped me via substratum.
Still I'm thinking the stock room hasn't given me any reason to move. In general the deviations from AOSP I like.
But yes, sure isn't a Nexus 5.
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i have substratum and i am always on swiftblack, i'm getting bored so can u please link the sony one ? hahahaha i think our phone is only limited in stock system.
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Android has matured a significant amount since the EZroot days of the Droid 1 days to the point where the OS already comes from factory with the customization that people used custom ROMs for.
That, plus the frequency of monthly updates and the need for the rom developer to keep up with the monthy updates PLUS incorporating new ways to circumvent the safetynet check has made modifying less sought after.
I'm pretty sure the majority of people people that rooted and ran ROMs were for the purpose of increasing functionality and not solely for the purpose of saying "I modified my phone".
Placebo init.d scripts and build.prop days flooded the "developer" community for some time until people caught up with it. If a company could incorporate ways to increase speed and battery life without losing functionality, wouldn't you think they would do it so they can have an edge against their competition?
So I ask, what are you looking for in a custom rom that isn't available right now?
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well i agree with u, and concerning your question i would say that if we can have a different room rather than the stock i would be happy, i used to have, nexus5, N6, N5x, N6P, 1+1 and 1+3.. i always look for something really different than the stock android, like miui or flyme os.. or at least a rom with plenty of features. i am just get bored to have always the same stock system as there is no other cutom oreo rom. i'm not a professional and i never tried to coock some here but i always change and flash my phone and even my family and friends phones . pixel xl is amazing especially with software updates and google things, even the camera app is the best so far and we recently have this new option of "AR STICKERS"... but i am bored that this phone doesn't really make me work on it.
i hope u get the message
aholeinthewor1d said:
Yea when I originally purchased this last year I figured the dev community would be huge. Don't get me wrong I appreciate the awesome ROMs we have just thought it would be a bigger scene. Seeing as how the phone is very expensive and if you want an unlocked bootloader you have to buy it through Google it makes sense (yes some Verizon models could be unlocked before updating). In general I still love the phone and it's by far better than anything I've had before. I don't upgrade phones often because I always wait for very good deals (Pixel for $140 new) so I'll likely have this for years.
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what u said is exactly what i meant by making this post, and honestly this phone is the best so far, i just expected more devs on it as it's a huge phone especially a google phone.
To the OP,
It's been pretty clear for some time that there aren't many rooms for the Pixel XL: are you sure that you really could not have known this before you got one?
I'm not that bothered that there isn't much development: less is more, there's less necessity than a few years ago and the pace of updates and safetynet make this a more intensive task (as mentioned by others). I have root and only use this for very specific features like adblocking.
I've had 3 OnePlus phones (2, 3 & 5) and each generation of Nexus/Pixel (bar two: GNex and N6... I had the Pixel 2 but returned it as faulty). A number of the roms/mods for 1+ are attempts to replicate Nexus/Pixel features, with the rest fairly pointless shortcuts and 'features' of little value (and often already accessible through an app). Substratum does most all you need for theming, and xposed (apparently almost ready for Oreo as the biggest jump was to Nougat) takes care of much of the other stuff.
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well i agree with u, and concerning your question i would say that if we can have a different room rather than the stock i would be happy, i used to have, nexus5, N6, N5x, N6P, 1+1 and 1+3.. i always look for something really different than the stock android, like miui or flyme os.. or at least a rom with plenty of features. i am just get bored to have always the same stock system as there is no other cutom oreo rom. i'm not a professional and i never tried to coock some here but i always change and flash my phone and even my family and friends phones . pixel xl is amazing especially with software updates and google things, even the camera app is the best so far and we recently have this new option of "AR STICKERS"... but i am bored that this phone doesn't really make me work on it.
i hope u get the message
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I think you may have bought the wrong phone if u expected that you were going to need to be replacing the ROM... IMHO, none of the custom ROMs are going to be better optimisized, and its just a fact that none will be utilisizing the latest new android features, being as they are always months behind Google's releases....
custom roms tend to be far better suited for older phones, EOL devices, etc...
you can still get a ton of customizations on the stock ROM, but it comes down to custom kernels, launchers and root apps that can modify the ROM, etc....
I'm curious, what are the compelling features that u need out of rom that u can't get on stock?
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THANK U but i think this forum is the discussion too, so it's the right place to complain.. i wasn't complaining only for mods, roms too ... i think u get my point
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The mods must agree with me, not you. Enjoy complaining in the correct forum.
kboya said:
To the OP,
It's been pretty clear for some time that there aren't many rooms for the Pixel XL: are you sure that you really could not have known this before you got one?
I'm not that bothered that there isn't much development: less is more, there's less necessity than a few years ago and the pace of updates and safetynet make this a more intensive task (as mentioned by others). I have root and only use this for very specific features like adblocking.
I've had 3 OnePlus phones (2, 3 & 5) and each generation of Nexus/Pixel (bar two: GNex and N6... I had the Pixel 2 but returned it as faulty). A number of the roms/mods for 1+ are attempts to replicate Nexus/Pixel features, with the rest fairly pointless shortcuts and 'features' of little value (and often already accessible through an app). Substratum does most all you need for theming, and xposed (apparently almost ready for Oreo as the biggest jump was to Nougat) takes care of much of the other stuff.
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I miss Xposed. So. Freaking. Much.
But not enough to to go back to nougat lol
Last Xposed report was almost ready for Oreo.. a few weeks back
Thank u guys, i know my subject is annoying, but i think i am just addicted to changing all time, and to this forum too lol. but if really Xposed comes to nougat, that would help my sickness
I have had no urge to install a custom ROM or even a kernel since I got the Pixel XL (right after release). Besides my being annoyed by Google putting the search bar on the bottom of the home launcher page and making it non-deletable or even movable, I have been totally happy with bootloader unlocked and rooted stock. My only development frustration is the moving target that the TWRP devs seem to be chasing and the SuperSU transition. I am liking Magisk so far, but I had got used to Chainfire's apps and have a hard time accepting this change LOL.
2nd hand Pixel XL's will swell the user base
liam_davenport said:
I think it's down to the price. I see no reason to buy this to Dev on over any other device Pixel just isn't value for money and nowhere near as popular as some of the other devices out there
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Cheaper 2nd hand XL's will make this phone more popular - I just got mine for £340 and am very pleased with it. (I should be as my previous phone was a Nexus 4 which I loved and nurtured for over 4 years!)
Having said that I'm on 8.1 stock unlocked but not yet rooted.
I'm waiting to see what Project Treble will bring.
I just picked up an S8+ for €524 (new). However I'm not allowed to have anything Google on my phone (not just apps, but Play Services). Nor do I want them really.
Since there still aren't any working AOSP ROMs, which of the 100s of modified stock ROMs (or N8 ports) are available where GoogleApps must be installed as a separate package (like AOSP)? Anyone have a list?
Don't want to waste time messing around removing it from ROMs that already have it baked in.
Lineage OS when it will have official support (no idea when)
Thanks, I'm aware that it (and Resurrection Remix etc etc) will. But rather strangely, in my view, there seems to be a huge disbalance in development efforts between stock and AOSP on the S8.
Anyway, regardless, in the mean time, I want a 'stock' / modified ROM that has no Google as standard.
From what I know...there is no AOSP rom that works completely for the s8 yet...
You can still root it and unistall anything inside from google from the stock rom, so that you keep all the functions without using google stuff
Per my first post, I'd rather not bother.
I'll just return the phone or sell it immediately if there really aren't any custom ROMs where G-Apps are installed separately. Aside from the initial bother, OTA updates tend to reinstall them, so it's a constant battle.
No AOSP roms for now. There's long way for Lineage or RR to become fully functional and bug-free. Just to remind the S6/S7 case.
I know, but surely there must be a few custom ROMs with no G-apps by default? There are literally hundreds.
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I know, but surely there must be a few custom ROMs with no G-apps by default? There are literally hundreds.
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Have a look at BatMan Rom v1.5. If I remember correctly you can choose to omit installing any G-apps via the Aroma installation.
Norup58 said:
Have a look at BatMan Rom v1.5. If I remember correctly you can choose to omit installing any G-apps via the Aroma installation.
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AFAIK removing Google Play Services (via Aroma) isn't an option. It's just the actual apps. Certainly it isn't an option in the screengrabs in that ROM or others.
Also, I assume like many other ROMs with G-apps baked in, OTAs complicate this, and they may never really be gone.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
Doubt very much you will find a Rom which fulfills your needs precisely.
An alternative is to use Titanium Backup or Package Disabler to get 'rid' of all Google things.
I remember there being a few in the Nexus 4 and 5 days, and some old Samsungs.
Haven't kept track of it recently, as have used stock CM / LOS in later years, so found it unnecessary.
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To the OP I'd be happy to take stock from a backup and remove all Google apps entirely and upload it for all. Do you want it rooted or would you prefer to do so yourself? It would be. ROM and not odin specific. I too hate Google and have everything removed except Gmail play store and modded YouTube. Battary life is pretty amazing too.
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No need to bump since you won't find anything, the formula for aosp is a Snapdragon cpu and an unlocked bootloader. You bought the wrong phone.
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No need to bump since you won't find anything, the formula for aosp is a Snapdragon cpu and an unlocked bootloader. You bought the wrong phone.
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For the Nth time, if you're going to bother to reply, then at least read what I have written and explained in a number of posts.
Nowhere have I asked for AOSP. It'll come when it comes, but I need a fix in the mean time.
I am asking for a modified stock ROM with Google removed by default. Something that has existed in the past, and which it's incredible if it does not exist among the hundreds of modified stock ROMs for the S8 variants.
Also, Snapdragon certainly isn't a prerequisite for AOSP. Samsung released all the sources a while ago. Huawei (Kirin & slow to release any / all sources and unreleased drivers) have AOSP.
I think the main impediment is that the S8/S8+/Note8 have been very expensive. But given that an S8 can now be bought for the same or less than a 64GB OP 5T in Europe, and has obviously better hardware, I suspect there will be a great deal more development effort incoming. Per my original post, my S8+ cost €524 from one of the largest e-tailers in Germany. A 5T costs €499.
this.guy.lol said:
To the OP I'd be happy to take stock from a backup and remove all Google apps entirely and upload it for all. Do you want it rooted or would you prefer to do so yourself? It would be. ROM and not odin specific. I too hate Google and have everything removed except Gmail play store and modded YouTube. Battary life is pretty amazing too.
Donations are always,welcomed for my work I do. Not needed but does aid me for my daily endeavours.
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That's very kind. The only problem I foresee, as mentioned earlier, is that removing Google from a ROM which doesn't have a maintained Google-free version means that every significant OTA update is likely to 're-infect' the system.
I think the most likely chance of success is a minor fork of ICE / BatMan / Renovate (i.e. one of the most popular modified stock ROMs) with a default Google-free version. This way, it may well attract enough interest that even if you stop, someone else will maintain it. They're so popular that there might be enough interest to maintain it even after LOS15.1 and derivatives are working and stable.
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For the Nth time, if you're going to bother to reply, then at least read what I have written and explained in a number of posts.
Nowhere have I asked for AOSP. It'll come when it comes, but I need a fix in the mean time.
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Ah you're right, my bad.
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Samsung released all the sources a while ago.
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For exynos?
I am asking for a modified stock ROM with Google removed by default. Something that has existed in the past, and which it's incredible if it does not exist among the hundreds of modified stock ROMs for the S8 variants.
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Now why didn't you do your research before buying this phone? Did you just assume you'd find a google free touchwiz rom? It doesn't take long to skim through the dev section and see every rom is basically stock with little tweaks here and there. Its not like you bought the phone on day 1, its been out for 8 months or so.
So like i said before, you bought the wrong phone, give it back and get that op5t if you don't want google on your phone. Flash aosp and voila, no google unless you flash gapps.
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That's very kind. The only problem I foresee, as mentioned earlier, is that removing Google from a ROM which doesn't have a maintained Google-free version means that every significant OTA update is likely to 're-infect' the system.
I think the most likely chance of success is a minor fork of ICE / BatMan / Renovate (i.e. one of the most popular modified stock ROMs) with a default Google-free version. This way, it may well attract enough interest that even if you stop, someone else will maintain it. They're so popular that there might be enough interest to maintain it even after LOS15.1 and derivatives are working and stable.
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itll be 7 months before we see aosp on s8 and s8 plus. as for the other thing, i have a base im working on atm. when an update comes along ill make one from it. in the meantime, the build i use is super fast and compared to the others you mentioned like ice and batman, its way better for snappy and so on. if interested let me know. itll take me around 6 hours to get it going and another 3 to upload if im lucky. donations on this would be highly highly appreciated but not needed
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itll be 7 months before we see aosp on s8 and s8 plus. as for the other thing, i have a base im working on atm. when an update comes along ill make one from it. in the meantime, the build i use is super fast and compared to the others you mentioned like ice and batman, its way better for snappy and so on. if interested let me know. itll take me around 6 hours to get it going and another 3 to upload if im lucky. donations on this would be highly highly appreciated but not needed
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I think it'll be much sooner than that. Price matters. It'll fall even further once the S9 is out. But anyway ....
What's the base? Will it have Aroma?
It would probably be a good idea to make a thread with details, and then you can gauge interest and thereby likelihood of donations.
Once I actually have the phone (it's in DE and I'm currently in NL) and get round to installing it, I'd of course contribute, provided it is indeed suitable.
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I think it'll be much sooner than that. Price matters. It'll fall even further once the S9 is out. But anyway ....
What's the base? Will it have Aroma?
It would probably be a good idea to make a thread with details, and then you can gauge interest and thereby likelihood of donations.
Once I actually have the phone (it's in DE and I'm currently in NL) and get round to installing it, I'd of course contribute, provided it is indeed suitable.
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Base will be 7.0/7.1.1 as its the most stable as far as speed is concerned. Aroma will be an option yes. I'm still learning how to make threads in here. Would love to have a place holder of sorts. Ill look into more later on. Be looking for my other account on here to post the ROM. The name is LVL7MODZ