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System volume hack or work around???

Anyone know of a hack or workaround for the piss poor volume on eb13? The alarm barely woke me up this morning.
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They lowered the volume intentionally. Some of the test phone's during beta were blowing speakers out. It has been known to happen on di18 also.
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Wow really? The volume is extremely loud. They increased it a lot since DI18. It almost blows my speaker all the time.

Whosdaman said:
Wow really? The volume is extremely loud. They increased it a lot since DI18. It almost blows my speaker all the time.
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They tweaked the internal EQ. Some frequencies are louder, some are lower. It depends on what your listening to. I had to swap out one of my Epics that was running a dk28 rom because it blew a speaker. One of the reps in our Sprint store has gone through 2 Epics because of the blown speaker but they were both refurbs and running di18 stock.

Whosdaman said:
Wow really? The volume is extremely loud. They increased it a lot since DI18. It almost blows my speaker all the time.
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Ya, i would say mine is louder than it was before.
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I feel like mine was overall quieter too. Or at least in most areas. If you go to the midnight rom thread, to pftmedic's website, and to the android developement page, youll find a CWM3 flashable zip called ViperRoms volume hack. It was for dk28, but its still compatible, because there wasnt really any code in it. Just numbers to set the volume. It worked for me.

Just the notification sound is quieter in EB13. It was also present in DK28. In DI18, it was about 15% louder than EB13 and DK28.

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I feel like mine was overall quieter too. Or at least in most areas. If you go to the midnight rom thread, to pftmedic's website, and to the android developement page, youll find a CWM3 flashable zip called ViperRoms volume hack. It was for dk28, but its still compatible, because there wasnt really any code in it. Just numbers to set the volume. It worked for me.
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+1 on this.
Mine seemed quieter as well. The Viper Vloume Hack that pftmedic "edified" works great! Also, I have flashed quite a few of the other edify zips from his website and they (all the ones I have flashed so far) all work great with EB13!

So let me see if I can sum this up and let me know if you think I am right or wrong.
Samsung decided in its infinite wisdom to use substandard speakers in some of the build runs either to save money or because they couldn't obtain speakers from their original source. Due to this manufacturing decision they had to turn what was a pretty decent sounding phone (my phone) in to a POS with the latest software update in an effort to protect themselves from excessive warranty claims.
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Overall volume is fine for me, I just wish that we could increase the notification volume sound!

Thanks for the input guys, ill try the hack you guys are talking about. Mine and my wifes alarms are about half as loud as they were before the update. Ringtones are still loud as hell though. I'm just glad I sleep light or I would have been a couple hours late this morning lol. Thanks again guys.
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I have issues with the volume in EB13 for the external speaker, it seems much quieter.
The VIPERmods_GalaxySVolHack_v3.zip referenced earlier (ptfmedic's lostandtired<dot>com/android-development site for the midNIGHT ROM) in this post is replacing the EB13 files with ones packaged in the zip as shown below.
/system/etc/audio/stream_earpiece.txt
/system/etc/audio/stream_headset.txt
/system/etc/audio/stream_speaker.txt

"Klick" Problem after Speakers go off

Hello together,
i don´t find a similar Thread for the One with my Speaker problems. So i start a new one:
I got the following problem:
When i play a Sound with my Phone after 2-3 seconds the Speakers do a "klack" Sound in front of the shut down.
example:
When i press Volumen + or - the Phone plays a Sound, around 2-3 seconds later the Speaker do a "klack".
the problem seems for me similar with the problems the Galaxy Nexus got.
Someone can confirm that?

I get that with my Nexus 4 and almost every other Android phone i have used. I can mostly only hear it if i used some sort of volume boosting mod/app or if i hold my phone close to my ear after a sound is played. I think its normal, but annoying.

Wow, i thought i was the only one. I have the same issue. After playing a sound file (ring tone, music, anything), if you put the speakers to your ear you can hear a shhhh sound, then a "click" which almost sounds like the speakers "turn off". For some reason the same sound sometimes appears when opening a music app (such as HTC Music), as in the speakers get turned on OR some sort of amplifier gets applied. Turning off beats audio doesn't help. I got O2 (germany), 1.27 Stock rom. I'm tempted to try 1.28 custom rom to see if it's a software bug, but i am a bit afraid i might need warranty to get this fixed...

that is the sound of the amp / dac discharging. happens on my one x with and without earphones on

shiningarmor said:
that is the sound of the amp / dac discharging. happens on my one x with and without earphones on
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So it's normal? Can it be turned off or fixed via software?

firaX said:
So it's normal? Can it be turned off or fixed via software?
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i got rid of mine by uninstalling those volume boosting mods

shiningarmor said:
i got rid of mine by uninstalling those volume boosting mods
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I doubt that's possible on stock Rom, is it?

I have it also, not all devices have the problem but HTC is aware of it and working on a fix.

firaX said:
I doubt that's possible on stock Rom, is it?
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although it does click, but clicking to the point that is audible, i think something is wrong somewhere.. u might as well email htc about it

It's audible in a quiet environment when i have the phone close-ish to my face. Question is whether it's fixable via software update or whether i need hardware fix. I don't really feel like sending it in already...They'd probably say it is within tolerance anyhow.
I just wonder, tons of ppl complain about stuff such as "corner is too sharp, tiny gap etc", why don't more people complain about this noise if it is "normal"?

firaX said:
It's audible in a quiet environment when i have the phone close-ish to my face. Question is whether it's fixable via software update or whether i need hardware fix. I don't really feel like sending it in already...They'd probably say it is within tolerance anyhow.
I just wonder, tons of ppl complain about stuff such as "corner is too sharp, tiny gap etc", why don't more people complain about this noise if it is "normal"?
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I have heard it's fixable by software
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Is it like the click of death heard when a hard drive is about to die? lol! Sorry just curious but don't have my HTC One yet.

You never had a decent amplifier, had you?
It's dedicated amp. All those devices "click" when turned on and off. There's nothing to be fixed, although the sound should be very quiet.

It's like hdd click of death indeed. Sound is quiet but audible.

firaX said:
It's like hdd click of death indeed. Sound is quiet but audible.
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Like I said, it's an amplifier turning off (and on as well to be precise - but usually this sound is more subtle).

I don't think this is an issue. It's just a fact of life with speakers.

Hekatonpsychos said:
Like I said, it's an amplifier turning off (and on as well to be precise - but usually this sound is more subtle).
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i already said that. it should not be that loud
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firaX said:
It's audible in a quiet environment when i have the phone close-ish to my face. Question is whether it's fixable via software update or whether i need hardware fix. I don't really feel like sending it in already...They'd probably say it is within tolerance anyhow.
I just wonder, tons of ppl complain about stuff such as "corner is too sharp, tiny gap etc", why don't more people complain about this noise if it is "normal"?
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ah , it shouldnt be that loud too, unless you're using earphones and u hear the click then it's fine. but if hearing it without speakers, i think it is insulated badly. like i said, try emailing htc

My Asus D2X Sound Card for my PC does that, always wondered what it was.

Audio 'fades in'?

Don't know if this is supposed to be happening but anytime I play an audio file such as a ringtone or alarm or what have you, the sounds start off really quiet and then boost to their full volume after a second. Is there a setting I overlooked or is this by design? Anyone else seeing this?
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Settings, sound, increasing ring tone option? Not sure if that's it or not.

I have caught this also where it starts off quite and then all of a sudden gets really loud but don't think it is every time.

Aridon said:
Settings, sound, increasing ring tone option? Not sure if that's it or not.
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I'm not seeing anything there
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Does it happen every time or on random? Some phones have in the settings->audio->fade in option.
Maybe its somewhere deeper in sound options?
Or esle, it could be some kind of software bug, hopefully not.

Hmm, it seems to happen more when I make it make a sound, like messing with the ringtone setting or volume control. Hit the volume rocker once and it's a barely audible beep even though it's almost all the way up. Hit it again and it blasts at full volume lol
Reboot doesn't do away with it
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Yeah I've had this. Also the tone for notifications can be cut off short also. It's nothing major. I'm sure the next update will fix it.
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TrenchKato said:
Yeah I've had this. Also the tone for notifications can be cut off short also. It's nothing major. I'm sure the next update will fix it.
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Hope so, it's something small that bothers me
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I don't have the phone yet, but I remember this happening on the Nexus 6 also.
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Is there a setting for the phone being in a pocket? Might be it!!

jayharper08 said:
I don't have the phone yet, but I remember this happening on the Nexus 6 also.
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Yeah, this is true for me as well. I believe it's an AOSP "feature". I haven't received my MXP yet, but this happens with my N6 currently.

hajabooja said:
Yeah, this is true for me as well. I believe it's an AOSP "feature". I haven't received my MXP yet, but this happens with my N6 currently.
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Same here. Still using my N6 also. And I believe you're right. Seems like I remember someone saying it was a " feature".
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jayharper08 said:
Same here. Still using my N6 also. And I believe you're right. Seems like I remember someone saying it was a " feature".
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Ugh. A very odd feature
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Nobody mention that in the review, thats odd. We really need some quality in depth reviews.
Doesnt sound good (no pun intended).

I think it is some sort of speaker protection. I was playing music at call it 30% (it faded in). Then, as I cranked up the volume, it seemed to level off meaning 80%-100% sounded almost identical. Maybe an auto leveler/compressor to protect the twin speakers?
Complete speculation, your thoughts?

If you look at moto's official specs, they list something like "stereo speakers with smartboost". This tells me they have some sort of "feature" that dynamically controls speaker volume also.
http://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-x-pure-edition#Specifications

eregev said:
I think it is some sort of speaker protection. I was playing music at call it 30% (it faded in). Then, as I cranked up the volume, it seemed to level off meaning 80%-100% sounded almost identical. Maybe an auto leveler/compressor to protect the twin speakers?
Complete speculation, your thoughts?
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If you look at moto's official specs, they list something like "stereo speakers with smartboost". This tells me they have some sort of "feature" that dynamically controls speaker volume also.
http://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-x-pure-edition#Specifications
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Thank you both, I think we've got it. Must be deliberate.
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I notoiced this too, really don't like this... First 2-3 seconds it's very low

Bad Speaker? crackling... :(

Hi all. Just got my Moto X Pure few days ago. But I noticed that my speakers are cracking at certain sounds. Specially playing the ringtone "Zeta", crackling occurs. Not clear. Does not happen with every sound. Thinking its a defective in my phone. Can you test yours playing the Zeta tone and let me know. Thanks!

I can achieve the same crackle playing that tone ONLY at max volume. I tried different audio settings (balanced or bassboost or off) all crackle at MAX volume.

Thanks. But my does not matter if its in max volume. Thanks for the reply. Moto X Pure, Returning....
PS; My Moto X2nd same ringtone, NO Problem at any volume.

robjbw said:
Thanks. But my does not matter if its in max volume. Thanks for the reply. Moto X Pure, Returning....
PS; My Moto X2nd same ringtone, NO Problem at any volume.
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I posted on the official forums about this problem and already got one reply: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/c751a88e77?commentId=981431
I chatted with Motorola support and they had me run through some TSing steps: Reboot, clear cache, factory reset
The chat support couldn't look up my IMEI for some reason, so they gave me a case number and have escalated it. I should get a call in 24-48 hours.
I'm not sure if I even want to return it if this issue is widespread. No sense in returning only to receive a phone with the same problem or perhaps MORE problems.

At Max it does have some crackling but at one step below it doesn't, and it's still better than the next best thing you can get, due to it's front facing speakers. Remember it's a phone. Spend money on a wireless speaker or headphones, this isn't supposed to be your personal boombox.

nikeman513 said:
At Max it does have some crackling but at one step below it doesn't, and it's still better than the next best thing you can get, due to it's front facing speakers. Remember it's a phone. Spend money on a wireless speaker or headphones, this isn't supposed to be your personal boombox.
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That sounds an awful lot like "you're holding it wrong". I've owned a lot of Android phones and none that I remember had it this bad or even close.
If Motorola doesn't want me using the phone that loud, they should not allow me to increase the volume that much. They may simply need to lower the gain with a software update. Until I know for sure that pretty much everyone has this problem, I'm going through Moto's support channels for a resolution.

Looking at the mixers_path.XML file, the gains do seem to be rather high.
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carlz28 said:
Looking at the mixers_path.XML file, the gains do seem to be rather high.
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I have not tinkered with that file or the settings within before. A quick Google seems to suggest that screwing with those settings can cause similar distortion. Sounds more and more like something they'll have to tweak in an OTA.

illogic6 said:
Sounds more and more like something they'll have to tweak in an OTA.
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Yes, and to be honest i never have my speakers on max volume but i understand its frustrating for some.

illogic6 said:
I have not tinkered with that file or the settings within before. A quick Google seems to suggest that screwing with those settings can cause similar distortion. Sounds more and more like something they'll have to tweak in an OTA.
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It may be the eq settings. Do you have it enabled?

lyricalsoul5 said:
It may be the eq settings. Do you have it enabled?
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I have had it enabled as it comes enabled by default. While troubleshooting this problem I discovered this feature and disabled the EQ in the sound settings menu. It mitigates the crackling but doesn't make it go away entirely.

Sorry if it's happening ALL the time even at low volumes but just about any speaker system cranked up to full volume will snap-crackle-pop unless you are running very expensive speakers with very powerful, clean amplification! I mean come on...can we even call what they put in a cell phone a "speaker"?? Maybe if you were the size of a grasshopper you could call them "speakers"!

jaseman said:
Sorry if it's happening ALL the time even at low volumes but just about any speaker system cranked up to full volume will snap-crackle-pop unless you are running very expensive speakers with very powerful, clean amplification! I mean come on...can we even call what they put in a cell phone a "speaker"?? Maybe if you were the size of a grasshopper you could call them "speakers"!
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None of my other phones do it. This isn't a budget phone either. Hell my Moto G doesn't do it.

So is this happening on ALL these new phones...(don't have mine yet...it's being shipped right now) or is this just happening to a random few?

jaseman said:
So is this happening on ALL these new phones...(don't have mine yet...it's being shipped right now) or is this just happening to a random few?
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https://forums.motorola.com/posts/c751a88e77
Moto staff have noticed the thread and verified that even their phone does it.

illogic6 said:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/c751a88e77
Moto staff have noticed the thread and verified that even their phone does it.
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YUK...I hope it doesn't bother me! While this is not my first Moto phone it is my first unlocked "almost" vanilla Android phone. I really want this thing to be GREAT!
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If this issue is so wide spread WHY DIDN"T EVEN ONE REVIEW say anything about it???? Did they all get different phones? Is this a batch issue like we have seen on many threads about many phones like the S6 scratch debacle?

jaseman said:
YUK...I hope it doesn't bother me! While this is not my first Moto phone it is my first unlocked "almost" vanilla Android phone. I really want this thing to be GREAT!
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If this issue is so wide spread WHY DIDN"T EVEN ONE REVIEW say anything about it???? Did they all get different phones? Is this a batch issue like we have seen on many threads about many phones like the S6 scratch debacle?
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Probably because it's easy to miss. It only seems to happen at max or near max volume and with only certain sounds. It might also only be 10% of the phones or something have it. It would be very easy to have one of the 10% and not notice unless you're looking for it.
It's not a huge deal at all... don't get me wrong. I'm particular about my phones though, so it is enough for me to consider looking elsewhere.
I tried to capture it on video, but it doesn't pick up well. It is worse in person. https://vid.me/tavk

Well I couldn't hear anything bad through my laptop with headphones on so I hope it is tolerable. TY

Well for me, I have to bring the volume down 4 notches so theres no rattle. Another thing I noticed is that when choosing a notification sound, between each choice, theres crackle and pop coming from my speaker. Weird. Also, rattle is from top speaker only. Seems like for ringtones, the phone uses both speakers, but only through the bottom for notifications. When playing music, even at maxx volume, i don't notice the rattle. Well, as much as I love this phone, i think I'm returning it. Since its a widespread problem, maybe the next revision, they "will" install different speaker. Guess the wait for N5x begins for me.

robjbw said:
Well for me, I have to bring the volume down 4 notches so theres no rattle. Another thing I noticed is that when choosing a notification sound, between each choice, theres crackle and pop coming from my speaker. Weird. Also, rattle is from top speaker only. Seems like for ringtones, the phone uses both speakers, but only through the bottom for notifications. When playing music, even at maxx volume, i don't notice the rattle. Well, as much as I love this phone, i think I'm returning it. Since its a widespread problem, maybe the next revision, they "will" install different speaker. Guess the wait for N5x begins for me.
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same..shame of you motorola

Is your top speaker louder?

Just received my device and its perfect...except for the top speaker being louder than the bottom one. I've seen other posts with people having the same issue so I want to see how many people this is affecting before I exchange mine.
I also noticed that at max volume they seem balanced but anything below that then the top is definitely louder.

same issue...top speaker is louder
jamespat93 said:
Just received my device and its perfect...except for the top speaker being louder than the bottom one. I've seen other posts with people having the same issue so I want to see how many people this is affecting before I exchange mine.
I also noticed that at max volume they seem balanced but anything below that then the top is definitely louder.
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I had google call me and they told me its that way by design...um, well that sucks... does the htc one m8 have this issue? anyone know

I noticed this as well, but it's a really minor difference, at least on my phone. I'm fine with it.

doneuemf said:
I had google call me and they told me its that way by design...um, well that sucks... does the htc one m8 have this issue? anyone know
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My HTC m7 had that issue but it was much less noticeable
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does the htc one m8 have this issue? anyone know
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I've had the M7, M8, M9, and a Moto X Pure.. They were all very well balanced /even sounding speakers. My N6P, is not..... And likes the OP, mine does balance out as you turn it up almost full volume.

doneuemf said:
I had google call me and they told me its that way by design...um, well that sucks... does the htc one m8 have this issue? anyone know
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I'm guessing Google are now just saying this so they don't have to keep exchanging phones.
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I noticed this as well, but it's a really minor difference, at least on my phone. I'm fine with it.
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For me it ruins the stereo effect of the phone...and 'stereo speakers' are part of the package we paid for when we bought this phone. At max volume they're fine so maybe it is a software issue.
Does anyone know how to edit the speaker gain xml or whatever?

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Does anyone know how to edit the speaker gain xml or whatever?
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I don't know that, but you can always try something like PowerAmp and mess with the balance. This doesn't help with videos or YouTube (or Google music), but for listening to MP3's through the phone speakers it will help.

jamespat93 said:
Just received my device and its perfect...except for the top speaker being louder than the bottom one. I've seen other posts with people having the same issue so I want to see how many people this is affecting before I exchange mine.
I also noticed that at max volume they seem balanced but anything below that then the top is definitely louder.
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I just got off phone with tech support, cleared my cache data and speakers are working great now..both at same volume..give it a try.

Top one might be slightly louder, but not that noticeable. I don't use speakers much anyways.

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I don't know that, but you can always try something like PowerAmp and mess with the balance. This doesn't help with videos or YouTube (or Google music), but for listening to MP3's through the phone speakers it will help.
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Yeah that's a good idea. Hopefully someone can come up with something system wide though.
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I just got off phone with tech support, cleared my cache data and speakers are working great now..both at same volume..give it a try.
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Wow so they're working perfectly now? How do you clear cache data?

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Yeah that's a good idea. Hopefully someone can come up with something system wide though.
Wow so they're working perfectly now? How do you clear cache data?
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yes perfect, both at same level...go to your settings, go to storage and app...click on cached data and click ok

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yes perfect, both at same level...go to your settings, go to storage and app...click on cached data and click ok
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Thanks, I cleared my my cache but it didn't fix my speakers
Did they give you anything else you could try? Or did they say why clearing your cache would fix them? Isit a bug or something?

doneuemf said:
I just got off phone with tech support, cleared my cache data and speakers are working great now..both at same volume..give it a try.
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LMAO, clearing your cache most certainly did not fix a hardware issue.

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LMAO, clearing your cache most certainly did not fix a hardware issue.
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This could possibly be a software fault though...cause at max volume the speakers are balanced.

jamespat93 said:
This could possibly be a software fault though...cause at max volume the speakers are balanced.
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It does not appear to be a software fault. The drivers are different sizes, set in different enclosures (the bottom houses a microphone etc), so they are bound to sound different. Even at full volume, while more balanced, the tone is still different between the two. Can the balance be fixed with a software tweak? Certainly, hopefully it will be, but clearing cache has nothing to do with it.

ageesm said:
It does not appear to be a software fault. The drivers are different sizes, set in different enclosures (the bottom houses a microphone etc), so they are bound to sound different. Even at full volume, while more balanced, the tone is still different between the two. Can the balance be fixed with a software tweak? Certainly, hopefully it will be, but clearing cache has nothing to do with it.
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Yeah the drivers being different sizes makes sense and would explain the difference but looking at the poll quite a few people have said their speakers are balanced?
Surely Google and Huawei wouldn't have overlooked this when designing the phone, especially when nexus 6 didnt have this problem. At first I thought it was a hardware fault too and was going to exchange my phone but I'm not sure atm.
Either way I hope a software tweak can fix this too.

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Yeah the drivers being different sizes makes sense and would explain the difference but looking at the poll quite a few people have said their speakers are balanced?
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Some people are tone deaf.

jamespat93 said:
This could possibly be a software fault though...cause at max volume the speakers are balanced.
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At max volume, the speakers are reported to be more equal on most people's devices who are reporting this problem. I am on my second Nexus 6P after I requested an RMA for the speaker issue and both have had the unequal speaker balance. Both are also much more even at maximum volume. I think some people are just much more receptive to the difference than others and there is likely some variation between devices as well.

I have this phone for rew days now and I already noticed that the top speaker is slightly louder than the bottom one. I understand that the bottom one is a bit smaller because it has to include the microphone as well but they should fix it with a software update.

I did clear the cache, and it works, not at all, but okay, before clear cache, my top speaker so loud, almost cant hear bot speaker at high volume, after the cache cleared, its only have slightly different, just a little louder on the top
O ya, i have htc one m8 too, but dont have this problem, its sound fantastic