Brazil tech magazine on buying used Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo - Moto Maxx General

Brazil tech magazine article. Written in Portuguese, use Google Translate for English.
One "con" they mention is it won't be updated past Marshmallow, but they fail to mention we on XDA already have Nougat 7.0 custrom ROMs... Somebody in Brazil, please go to that article and comment about that!
Is buying a used Moto Maxx worth it? Check out the pros and cons
January 24, 2017 7:00 a.m.
http://www.techtudo.com.br/noticias...sado-vale-pena-confira-os-pros-e-contras.html

Well, "normies" don't usually install ROMs or even care about updates anyway...

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Moto Maxx in Soak Test in Brazil

So i just asked motorola support this morning about Moto Maxx and they told me that a very limited number of people already received Lollipop. It's coming :victory:
I wouldn't get too excited about it. To me, it seems like a pretty standard answer that they would give about any model from the Moto line.
But, yeah, let's hope the update reaches us before the end of the year!
videtonator said:
I wouldn't get too excited about it. To me, it seems like a pretty standard answer that they would give about any model from the Moto line.
But, yeah, let's hope the update reaches us before the end of the year!
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I know but i asked specifically for Moto Maxx .
Threw that into translate for those of us who don't speak Portuguese:
In the first phase of the testing process, Motorola began updating the new Android (Lollipop 5.0) for a very limited number of customers.
Motorola recommends that users stay tuned entire information disclosed on his blog and official profiles on social networks to monitor the availability of updating the products in Brazil.
In addition, the information may also be viewed through the link:
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NEVER AGAIN. Verizon phones, non mainstream super phones..

Ok, I love my Moto Maxx. I knew I will get limited support, limited developers support, even compared to its less capable cousin Moto X. But I didn't expect this much suffering.
People are trying to unlock bootloader, update, root, and months after months of struggles and hard work from our beloved contributing developers.
For the US Verizon customers, it was the bootload and root, then after months of trying they got it and it was the update they were promised by the end of 2014 which just arrived, then the cycle starts over.
For us, the international Moto Maxx users, we gambled big, the phone is only known in a few countries with no real developer support but it was (as I said before) a SuperPhone. Unlocking bootload and rooting for us wasn't that hard, but here we are waiting and waiting for the lollipop update (I'm still on 4.4.4) and for the work corporate apps I am using I cannot root or use CM sadly.
I hereby declare the Droid franchise developer and power users unfriendly. I would like to extend this to any phone that is not worldwide mainstream. I will think a million times before doing this to myself again, despite the battery and superior user experience.
My company offered to buy me an iphone 6 (lol) or a Samsung galaxy s6 or s6 edge and I said no and jumped through hoops to get approval to use my Moto Maxx. I regret this completely. The first chance I will get, I will revisit this, I might get lucky and get them to get me the new international version of Moto X 2015.
So yes, this is an open letter to Motorola and Verizon. This is a whiny complainy angry thread and you can all express your feelings about this here.
I am keeping an open mind and still giving Motorola another chance. After all they have tried hard to look at our user experience pain points and provide good solutions for it.
So I hope I have learned my lesson. I hope I don't fall for this trap again. Even if this means I lose touchless controls, assist, twist to camera and active display which became part of my daily routine.
What do you guys think? am I over reacting?
Kiwironic said:
Ok, I love my Moto Maxx. I knew I will get limited support, limited developers support, even compared to its less capable cousin Moto X. But I didn't expect this much suffering.
People are trying to unlock bootloader, update, root, and months after months of struggles and hard work from our beloved contributing developers.
For the US Verizon customers, it was the bootload and root, then after months of trying they got it and it was the update they were promised by the end of 2014 which just arrived, then the cycle starts over.
For us, the international Moto Maxx users, we gambled big, the phone is only known in a few countries with no real developer support but it was (as I said before) a SuperPhone. Unlocking bootload and rooting for us wasn't that hard, but here we are waiting and waiting for the lollipop update (I'm still on 4.4.4) and for the work corporate apps I am using I cannot root or use CM sadly.
I hereby declare the Droid franchise developer and power users unfriendly. I would like to extend this to any phone that is not worldwide mainstream. I will think a million times before doing this to myself again, despite the battery and superior user experience.
My company offered to buy me an iphone 6 (lol) or a Samsung galaxy s6 or s6 edge and I said no and jumped through hoops to get approval to use my Moto Maxx. I regret this completely. The first chance I will get, I will revisit this, I might get lucky and get them to get me the new international version of Moto X 2015.
So yes, this is an open letter to Motorola and Verizon. This is a whiny complainy angry thread and you can all express your feelings about this here.
I am keeping an open mind and still giving Motorola another chance. After all they have tried hard to look at our user experience pain points and provide good solutions for it.
So I hope I have learned my lesson. I hope I don't fall for this trap again. Even if this means I lose touchless controls, assist, twist to camera and active display which became part of my daily routine.
What do you guys think? am I over reacting?
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Every variant of this phone can be updated to Lollipop. Seems like your problem is your employer since the Maxx has an unlockable bootloader and CyanogenMod. Yeah the support for these devices has been horrible but oh well.
Cobra04 said:
Every variant of this phone can be updated to Lollipop. Seems like your problem is your employer since the Maxx has an unlockable bootloader and CyanogenMod. Yeah the support for these devices has been horrible but oh well.
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I would have considered CM if it had support for touchless controls, assist, twist to camera and active display. These are important to me, and some of the reason I went for the Moto Maxx. What you are saying is, I should give up most of the features I got this phone for just to get lollipop??? How convenient is that?
Motorola nor Verizon have anything to do with CM, my pain points are not coming from CM but from Motorola.
Kiwironic said:
Ok, I love my Moto Maxx. I knew I will get limited support, limited developers support, even compared to its less capable cousin Moto X. But I didn't expect this much suffering.
People are trying to unlock bootloader, update, root, and months after months of struggles and hard work from our beloved contributing developers.
For the US Verizon customers, it was the bootload and root, then after months of trying they got it and it was the update they were promised by the end of 2014 which just arrived, then the cycle starts over.
For us, the international Moto Maxx users, we gambled big, the phone is only known in a few countries with no real developer support but it was (as I said before) a SuperPhone. Unlocking bootload and rooting for us wasn't that hard, but here we are waiting and waiting for the lollipop update (I'm still on 4.4.4) and for the work corporate apps I am using I cannot root or use CM sadly.
I hereby declare the Droid franchise developer and power users unfriendly. I would like to extend this to any phone that is not worldwide mainstream. I will think a million times before doing this to myself again, despite the battery and superior user experience.
My company offered to buy me an iphone 6 (lol) or a Samsung galaxy s6 or s6 edge and I said no and jumped through hoops to get approval to use my Moto Maxx. I regret this completely. The first chance I will get, I will revisit this, I might get lucky and get them to get me the new international version of Moto X 2015.
So yes, this is an open letter to Motorola and Verizon. This is a whiny complainy angry thread and you can all express your feelings about this here.
I am keeping an open mind and still giving Motorola another chance. After all they have tried hard to look at our user experience pain points and provide good solutions for it.
So I hope I have learned my lesson. I hope I don't fall for this trap again. Even if this means I lose touchless controls, assist, twist to camera and active display which became part of my daily routine.
What do you guys think? am I over reacting?
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You can't really call yourself a power user and gloss over the fact you could have flashed Lollipop many months ago. It doesn't even have to be CM.
I don't get why your phone is still on 4.4.4. I'm running stock 5.0.2 with all the features that you like
Yawn.
I'm not sure why this is a surprise. The DX, released 5 years ago, and the next generations are on the same boat.
IMO, rooting and custom ROMs is not the same as it used to be as Android has taken so many steps forward.
Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk
Moto MAXX XT1225 got stock Lollipop back in March, soon after Moto Turbo XT1225 (same device, same FCC ID) launched with Lollipop in India. 5.0.2.
I ran stock 5.0.2 for months on my Puerto Rico Moto Maxx, and on my Mexico Moto Maxx.
It was the Droid Turbo XT1254 stuck on 4.4.4, not the XT1225.
The stock 5.0.2 files are in the development section, if you want to flash them. For Brazil, Mexico and India.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3063470
Claro in Puerto Rico (and I think Chile, also) had a falling out with Motorola, so the Puerto Rico/Chile Moto Maxx never got an official OTA to 5.0.2. But if you have Puerto Rico XT1225, you just flash your phone to another country and get 5.0.2. Or flash the 5.0.2 image of your choice (Brazil, Mexico, India).
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Stock 5.1 is coming for the XT1225, but custom ROM 5.1.1 has been here for months. There's two custom 5.1.1 ROMs available -- one is AOSP, not CM based. So development support is here.
AOSP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3108708
CM 12.1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3060089
We also have cool boot logos and animations like these:
BOOT ANIMATION
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3141711
BOOT LOGO
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3065141
(Many more, just an example of each.)
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However, you say you can't run custom ROM, that you have to stay stock. Therefore, why have you not flashed stock 5.0.2 which has been available for the XT1225 since March?
I care less about CM for Quark but i am surprised to see that nobody released a stock based rom for our phones yet.
Semseddin said:
I care less about CM for Quark but i am surprised to see that nobody released a stock based rom for our phones yet.
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There's an AOSP one. I know, not exactly the same as "stock". But we do have two completely different custom 5.1.1 ROMs.
You can also run stock 5.0.2, root and run xposed/Gravity Box and get as few or as many custom ROM features you want... While remaining on stock.
I would be very fine if someone provided us a custom rom based on stock brazil build of maxx, just something like computerfreak provided to Turbo users. It is funny that what i wanted for my phone is already available for the bootloader locked variant and missing from our bootloader free variant. This very well explains the popularity of the device within people is the key to its development potencial.
edit : even opened a request thread for it but nobody gave a f. , even our maxx users, leave alone the uninterested developers.
i think we should collect 450$ and buy juacos's maxx to a developer who would be happily developing good stuff for us.
i totally agree, last year i got the droid maxx and it had little development but i thought that the moto maxx being released worldwide would have a lot of support, i really love motorola, but i dont like this, its like having a lamborgini that only you can drive, theres no much development, i regret trading my oneplus one, it even had better battery than my moto maxx, and worse camera but under same usage my battery lasted more than moto maxx and the speakers were louder, this year i think i will buy a moto x or the new oneplus two, its real sad to write this but its the truth. no more moto maxx or droid maxx for me.
So I change to Mexican rom to be able to get 5.0.2 and then what? I don't force upgrades unless I see a clear upgrade path. If then Motorola releases an 5.1 OTA upgrade from 4.4.4 for PR and not Mexico, then I am screwed. I don't take the downgrading risk.
Being a power user doesn't mean I go foolishly and pick the only upgrade path and not worry about the future. I don't gamble with my devices.
Anyway, yesterday Motorola has announced 5.0.2 for PR among many other versions. I will post the updates in this thread
International Moto Maxx 5.1 official update (Non Droid Turbo)
Kiwironic said:
So I change to Mexican rom to be able to get 5.0.2 and then what? I don't force upgrades unless I see a clear upgrade path. If then Motorola releases an 5.1 OTA upgrade from 4.4.4 for PR and not Mexico, then I am screwed. I don't take the downgrading risk.
Being a power user doesn't mean I go foolishly and pick the only upgrade path and not worry about the future. I don't gamble with my devices.
Anyway, yesterday Motorola has announced 5.0.2 for PR among many other versions. I will post the updates in this thread
International Moto Maxx 5.1 official update (Non Droid Turbo)
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Power users and developers absolutely gamble with their devices. What it really comes down to is not about being power user nor developer friendly, but instead you want frequent and fast updates. The only device that will give you that is a Nexus and at this time you can have that on Verizon too.
Your stance defies everything an unlocked bootloader stands for.
Kiwironic said:
So I change to Mexican rom to be able to get 5.0.2 and then what? I don't force upgrades unless I see a clear upgrade path. If then Motorola releases an 5.1 OTA upgrade from 4.4.4 for PR and not Mexico, then I am screwed. I don't take the downgrading risk.
Being a power user doesn't mean I go foolishly and pick the only upgrade path and not worry about the future. I don't gamble with my devices.
Anyway, yesterday Motorola has announced 5.0.2 for PR among many other versions. I will post the updates in this thread
International Moto Maxx 5.1 official update (Non Droid Turbo)
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As Mexico, Brazil and India factory unlocked phones got 5.0.2 first, I imagine they will get 5.1 first.
Under no scenario does Claro Puerto Rico phones get 5.1 and factory unlocked XT1225 (Mexico, Brazil, India) does not.
You say Motorola has just announced 5.0.2 for Puerto Rico Claro. Well, this is mid July. Factory unlocked has had it since March, and will soon get 5.1 stock.
You sound a little silly saying if you flash the XT1225 to another country image or another Android version, you can't flash back if you want. Many people have flashed to 5.0.2 to custom ROM 5.1 and back to 4.4.4 on the XT 1225. One guy -- @Fulbring -- said he's done it at least 5 times... See this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61498706
Many flashed to India, then to Brazil, then to Mexico to see difference (if any) in performance. You can also downgrade back to 4.4.4.
I flashed my Puerto Rico Moto Maxx 4.4.4 to India 5.0.2 and then to CM 12.1 Lollipop 5.1. I could easily flash it back to Claro Puerto Rico 4.4.4, if I wanted.
There's instructions. You just have to read. @Jaocagomez wrote an excellent thread about all this. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3074724
The key is having an unlocked bootloader. Where people have gotten into trouble is trying to flash update with locked bootloader.
I guess you guys are really happy with what you got. I expressed my opinion and not going to change it to please you.
I think Motorola can do better than this, and I think we deserve better than this. I will leave you guys to give me more lessons about how to be a power user.
Kiwironic said:
I guess you guys are really happy with what you got. I expressed my opinion and not going to change it to please you.
I think Motorola can do better than this, and I think we deserve better than this. I will leave you guys to give me more lessons about how to be a power user.
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I'm not disagreeing that Motorola dropped the ball on the XT1225 with a narrow release, instead of a world wide release that would have included Europe, all of Asia, and Canada. It is a super phone, and Motorola made people jump through hoops to get it.
It should have been as widely released as the Moto X, or even better this is the phone Motorola should have released as the Moto X.
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But still running 4.4.4 on the XT1225 is your fault, not Motorola. This phone -- the XT1225 -- has had stock 5.0.2 since March on all factory unlocked phones and many Brazil and Mexico carriers and you refuse to flash it on your XT1225.
There's clear instructions on how to do it. Instead you are waiting for a specific carrier OTA, when you do not need to do so.
The XT1225 is the same device across all regions, all countries. The India Moto Turbo XT1225 IDENTICAL in every way to the Latin America Moto Maxx XT2225.
Many, many people in these threads have upgraded, downgraded 4.4.4 to 5.02 and back again, flashed images from different countries, to prove it's not hard -- since our bootloader can be unlocked. The Droid Turbo XT1254 owners WISH they had our advantage!
The only reason I did not change region as I mentioned before is to be sure about a good upgrade path. However, since all updates indicates that BR has the highest chance for 5.1 update, then I have just flashed stock BR. People report that they are able to upgrade then downgrade, while others report bricked on downgrade. A smart user knows that gpt doesn't like being downgraded, and so I will not try this path.
I don't want just to update to lollipop, first of all I do not want to lose themoto features I already have, flashing custom or CM will not help, as it doesn't support the stock moto features. 5.0.2 is buggy and less secure and I do not want to flash it unless I have evidence 5.1 is around the corner. (even before having corporate apps)
Here I am now with BR stock, OTA updates are not available, I think I will have to flash the OTA manually. Let's see how that goes.
Now, since I am being accused of being "unreasonable", the question here is, are you satisfied with how Motorola is handling the device??? You can answer this question (at least to yourself) or you can just blame things on me and lecture me on how to be a power user because you know all about it
Up to you.
Thanks to all of you who objectively expressed your opinion without the bullying attitude some adopt.
I've had just about every Samsung phone since the galaxy S2 and note 1. I've also had the old razor maxx by Motorola and it was horrible. I have the droid turbo un rooted and I have to say it's been the best phone I've ever had. It's fast, great battery, awesome features. I don't care to root anymore because I personally don't see an advantage to it. Please don't argue with me, it's just my point of view for me. I love LP so far. And since the camera update this phone to me is flawless. I think you may be over reacting a bit OP.
@MaxX folks around the world, since we didn't pay for root or bl unlock, maybe we could collect some money and donate a mint condition moto maxx device to a developer who would develop rom / kernel support for his & our devices.. We could have had the faux123 kernel, imagine that with 3900mah battery.

Nougat 7.0 will not available only G4 KOREAN VERSION

I live in south korea.
and I am using LG G4 KOREAN VERSION(F500L)
I have a bad news for korean version G4 user.
Korean version will not update official Nougat 7.0.
LG Customer service said to me, "We decided , We will not service nougat 7.0 sorry and 6.0 is stablized OS for G4 "
So, The korean G4 will not update nougat 7.0
It's very sad news and this news made me very angry
Cheer up all korean version G4 users!
And Please unlock F500's bootloader
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+LG V10 KOREAN VERSION will not service Nougat to same reason
댓글이 없네요 ㅠㅠㅠ 버려진 f500
fhssasss said:
I live in south korea.
and I am using LG G4 KOREAN VERSION(F500L)
I have a bad news for korean version G4 user.
Korean version will not update official Nougat 7.0.
LG Customer service said to me, "We decided , We will not service nougat 7.0 sorry and 6.0 is stablized OS for G4 "
So, The korean G4 will not update nougat 7.0
It's very sad news and this news made me very angry
Cheer up all korean version G4 users!
And Please unlock F500's bootloader
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+LG V10 KOREAN VERSION will not service Nougat to same reason
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can you ask them is there will be update to 7.0 for H815?
charlie123464 said:
댓글이 없네요 ㅠㅠㅠ 버려진 f500
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Read forum rules!
English only pls! Thanks!
I very much doubt any G4 will get official Nougat from LG.
Yeaaaa.. So i think it is the right time to say "Goodbye LG"..
If korean version not get Nougat, we sure that international not getting too.
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I think the same. Many low-end/mid devices from LG already got Nougat (LG Stylo 2 for example).
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Many people won't buy next phone from LG and sales will be lower because of that. In spite of many problems and terrible software updates G4 was not so bad. They want to sell new phones and have earnings but none of us will buy another LG phone after this. LG G4 had many hardware problems and they did another mistake with update policy.
Wtf LG **** you. I'll wait till April and I will go for something else. I bought this because of further updates and guess what. It won't receive any...
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Sad news!
I think I have to ditch the stock camera now ;(
Why I every time find out when I buy any new phone that there is any problem with upgrading, HW issues or whatever else? :/
They should at least unlock the bootloader on 81X models so that we can move on with custom roms.
I really enjoy the phone (815P) but it'll be the last one from LG for me.
I'm not sure if it's the final/legit information or just speculations but if that's true then I feel sorry for people who bought this phone and paid full flagship price for it... At least I bought it in 2016 and paid half price but one more time it proves that we shouldn't ever buy a new Android phone as soon as it gets released because of stupid update policy, never ever!!! Only in this way we can make them hear us and keep buying last years phones so their sales go down and maybe, maybe they will hear us, otherwise it will stay like this forever. I realized it long time ago, 3-4 years that OEMs don't give a **** about customers, all they care is marketing and sales, that's all I can say to you. Lets hope for the best but from what it looks like it's very unlikely as I personally received 2 updates in last year which only had new security patch...
Yes it pretty bad... Can't even supply updates for 2 years from Launch, which is a lot of peoples upgrade period.
I'm due an upgrade in May, but I can see me waiting for the next iteration of the Oneplus and jumping ship to that.
Not sure if legit, but anyway, if they dont stick to 2 major updates, i agree, byebye..
If there will be no update for G4 to Nougat 7.0 then I also have to say bye bye LG
You won't be neither first nor last... But we have custom developers for now so we could have Nougat this way.
Lg should think wisely bootloop then no updates they Will lose msny customers me included
hey, let's be positive.. maybe LG is too busy with their upcoming G6 until they forgot that G4 is actually existed..
daniLaLaLaLaLa said:
hey, let's be positive.. maybe LG is too busy with their upcoming G6 until they forgot that G4 is actually existed..
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I highly doubt about it. If they release G6, they will focus on G6, G5 and V20. There is even lower chance getting Android 7 N for G4 after G6 release.
G3 got Android 6.0 Marshmallow before G5 was released.

About XT1475 NOUGAT update

So i was on lenovo forums and found this (its for 1575 btw):
"Ok, so I've seen all the posts and comments. *I know Moto / Lenovo does not comment on Impending updates.
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However.
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When I called Moto Support Yesterday, I was told by two different reps that this phone's update schedule has changed, and it will no longer be recieving 7.0, or any further updates above 6.01, other than google supplied security updates.
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Even funnier, when I asked how I was supposed to get my promised update, the rep told me to Unlock my bootloader and "Google for a nougat update, Just be carefull of hacked versions" (NOT Kidding)
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When I asked for an ID or other information so I could track the seconnd call, I recieved reference number*170605-001691.
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What u guys think?
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Regular Motorola Lenovo support people have no idea and are not in the loop on updates. That is why if and when you are chosen for beta test you are told not to call them.
Since the main Nougat thread was needlessly closed, I haven't been able to keep track: has 7.0 rolled out for the XT1572 everywhere (i.e., across all of Europe) or are some major countries still waiting?
If it's rolled out everywhere else, there's absolutely no reason to think the XT1575 will ever receive Nougat. Why would there be a multi-week or multi-month gap for a device that's essentially identical? It probably has to do with CDMA issues and/or carriers demanding $$ for an approval process before they allow Nougat-ified 1575's on their network.
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Since the main Nougat thread was needlessly closed, I haven't been able to keep track: has 7.0 rolled out for the XT1572 everywhere (i.e., across all of Europe) or are some major countries still waiting?
If it's rolled out everywhere else, there's absolutely no reason to think the XT1575 will ever receive Nougat. Why would there be a multi-week or multi-month gap for a device that's essentially identical? It probably has to do with CDMA issues and/or carriers demanding $$ for an approval process before they allow Nougat-ified 1575's on their network.
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The main thread was closed from all of the arguing and was intended to keep track of the XT1575 update. Since nothing new was happening for months, it only made sense to lock it to save the admins from getting another headache from cleaning the thread again. It would be nice to have a good place to see where else the XT1572's have been getting updates though
ominousnimbus said:
Since the main Nougat thread was needlessly closed, I haven't been able to keep track: has 7.0 rolled out for the XT1572 everywhere (i.e., across all of Europe) or are some major countries still waiting?
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XT1570 Style (China)
Still on Lollipop, no updates expected
XT1572 Style
UK - Not yet
EU - Most (supposedly not all variants yet)
Asia - Yes
Latin America - Yes
XT1575 Pure
North America - Not yet
And the main Nougat thread needed to be closed, it had to be cleaned by Mods several times a week because of constant arguing, bickering, whining, and needless Moto bashing that even got rather hostile at times. Leave to a few to ruin it for everyone.
One of Motorola forum administration said, that rep provided a wrong information, and they "recruite" him better. No official info about cancellation of update was provided, so I think we have a small hope.
masterman775 said:
One of Motorola forum administration said, that rep provided a wrong information, and they "recruite" him better. No official info about cancellation of update was provided, so I think we have a small hope.
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Seriously? We will get the update... The last "beta" was just sent to testers only a few weeks ago (early August I believe) because they were still having issues with Nougat on the XT1575, and once it has been approved and found to be stable it is usually rolled within 30 days.
The mentioned "obsolete" and "we are not getting an update per customer service" is crap, and has been CLEARLY disproved on Moto's official forums... did a rep say that? Apparently they did, but they were flat out wrong... they did not have the knowledge or the authority to do so.
TBH, this update for the Pure has been a PR nightmare for Moto... they don't talk about it (which is not new, Moto has been tight lipped about software updates since before Google bought them) and it is taking a ridiculously long time to get a stable ROM, the beta testers have had significant issues with several builds, even hard brick issues early on when performing a factory reset.
Although I get people's frustration, how do you think people would feel if they they got an update, then did a factory reset for whatever reason, and the device bricked because of it?
I know it sucks... but seriously what is it going to do for you? Other than a few gimmicks that Nougat has that Marshmallow does not, the update does NOTHING for this device, no new camera API, no Vulcan support, no VoLTE, no Pixel Launcher, not even updated Moto apps. You get multi-window which honestly barely has a usable function, and clear all in recents, which is also not really important, and Google Allo added at the system level (yeah, OK, nobody uses it I know).
Patience, it will come when it's ready... I honestly don't care anymore if it comes or not because by the end of the year I will be moving on to something else since this one will be pushing 20 months for me and it is just time to move on.
I'm on an XT1572 Style, which I purchased online -- I'm guessing diverted from EU markets, since the update announcements were always in French. Nougat 7.0 has made this phone unbearable to use -- 1-3sec lags on most interface interactions, and up to 5 seconds when it feels like it. I've followed the advice from Moto support to fix it, including a hard factory reset. I agree with the post above that 7.0 adds very little value to the phone. I'm angry enough to look into a consumer law action against Motorola for the replacement value. And there is no way in hell I will be buying another Moto device -- looking hard at the OnePlus 3T.
Just received nougat 7.0 this morning for my moto x pure edition. Installed the software in 30 min. Noticed the app files are larger. Everything runs smoothly so far. The phone is a XT1575 32GB. It was a very long wait. Located in Coeur D Alene, ID. Jerry Purchased from Best Buy, unlocked, Retail

When are we getting oreo?

I've been watching some videos and photos of people getting Oreo on their moto G5 plus, yet I haven't seen any stock Oreo roms
What is happening?
And thanks for reading my not so good English
It is a beta testing of the stock ROM. Only a select few people that have enrolled in the Motorola Feedback Network will get it. The global release will happen in a couple of months. You have to wait.
G5s gets official rollout in September second week and our modal g5 plus after one month in October confirm from executive Moto engineer ****
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G5s gets official rollout in September second week and our modal g5 plus after one month in October confirm from executive Moto engineer ****
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Oh really? Got a verifiable link to that information? If not, don't post about it here...
I didn't think so, because we all know Moto does NOT give specifics about updates... EVER.... they never have and in the official forums they have been very clear that is their policy and they never will give specifics.
We all want it to come out, but making up stuff or spreading unsubstantiated rumors does not help.
Abhinand PS said:
G5s gets official rollout in September second week and our modal g5 plus after one month in October confirm from executive Moto engineer ****
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As a long time Motorola user I can tell you that all these chat Infos are nonsens.
As @acejavelin said, Motorola never announced anything about update ETA. You will find these " some chat helper said" posts from Falcon over Titan until now and always the answers are useless.
All that these guys are able to do is telling you to do a factory reset. They have no clue when an update arrives, maybe they are told to say something like "within the next weeks" just to calm down the countless users that are asking for it.
These posts are useless even in combination with a screenshot. So don't post rumours that will never be confirmed and don't help anyone.
And don't crosspost these stuff in several threads!
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Are there at least any fully stable 8.1 stock roms out there?
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Are there at least any fully stable 8.1 stock roms out there?
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Ahm...this is what we are waiting for?
There's a TWRP flashable build of the Oreo soak test.
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https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=http://www.techdroider.com/2018/08/5th-oreo-soak-test-fo.... This is last soak test for g series confirmed from inner source as Moto never give false promise please believe last time they have. Leaked source
Abhinand PS said:
https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=http://www.techdroider.com/2018/08/5th-oreo-soak-test-fo.... This is last soak test for g series confirmed from inner source as Moto never give false promise please believe last time they have. Leaked source
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...This is most likely the last Soak Test update for the G5s Plus, Motorola is expected to release the Official Android 8.1 Oreo for the G5s Plus starting 2nd week of September.....
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Most likely....is expected to....
This is no confirmation, just a guess by the guys of techdroider.
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Wolfcity said:
Most likely....is expected to....
This is no confirmation, just a guess by the guys of techdroider.
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And the info is about G5S Plus, not G5 Plus.
Abhinand PS said:
https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=http://www.techdroider.com/2018/08/5th-oreo-soak-test-fo.... This is last soak test for g series confirmed from inner source as Moto never give false promise please believe last time they have. Leaked source
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I doubt this would happen, Moto users are not so lucky in the firmware update department!
But if you say so...then "I would give away free sweets riding a royal elephant" like those royal kings.
Coming back to the point..i strongly disagree that moto would give a certain timeline or a date, their culture is different; they believe in uncertainty and chaos.
Moto would make a grand entry with (nectar) Oreo (ahem..32-bit) for their dying devices, like a savior.
Peace out.
Motorola link saying Oreo is available
I found a link saying Oreo is available and I can't post the link because I'm a newbie on this forum. You should be able to find it by searching "MS130856 motorola" on google.
It doesn't seem to be available to my phone. Any idea when the Oreo 8.1 info might have been posted and when it will actually be available on my G5 plus?
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I found a link saying Oreo is available and I can't post the link because I'm a newbie on this forum. You should be able to find it by searching "MS130856 motorola" on google.
It doesn't seem to be available to my phone. Any idea when the Oreo 8.1 info might have been posted and when it will actually be available on my G5 plus?
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Depends on where you come from. Oreo is available in India and Brazil, some users also confirm it's rolled out in Mexico and GB.
Threre are several threads around about it, also some OTA are available also fastboot firmwares.
Just search in this forum and you'll find all informations. For pending regions: Motorola never gave a timeline and most probably never will.
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Oreo won't make your life better, gives you wealth or makes your love life better. No offense, just kidding....
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