We all know that the Moto G4 Play, has a 64bit processor, which currently runs the system in 32bit mode. Will the device have enough power to run Android Nougat (or Marshmallow) in 64bit? Would you gain more performance? I think it has enough RAM.
Well all Moto products have this issue. It can only be fixed by Moto devs(though i read that some xda devs were able to do so but thats not official and some bugs are still there.) Moto has becoming quite disappointing since they released the update for N in Jan of 2018, after 1 and half year of N, and that to only brazil and some other countries. Lol, i dont know what are they trying to achieve with this.
vicente001 said:
We all know that the Moto G4 Play, has a 64bit processor, which currently runs the system in 32bit mode. Will the device have enough power to run Android Nougat (or Marshmallow) in 64bit? Would you gain more performance? I think it has enough RAM.
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I think if the devs who developed the 64-bit version for g4 (Athene) try, they may be able to create a stable kernel and ROM, but there are few devs for harpia
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Right after Google released Android Nougat 7.0 and made the source available for developers to tinker with, devices started getting unofficial builds, even the ones that weren't officially supported but that's the beauty of Android, isn't it?
At the time of writing this, a bunch of developers have already booted up Nougat on their phones and are trying to fix whatever bugs are left.
So, coming to the point, do you think that we'll get an Android Nougat build? Considering that recently a dual-core processor phone Xperia M just booted into Android Nougat and as we all know that currently we're running Marshmallow which some users including myself feel that it's a bit resource-intensive than Lollipop(I have the 1gb variant).
Keep Calm and wait for Android N by premaca for our device.
If Sprout Series can handle Android N then our device can handle it too.
BTW Marshmallow isn't that Resource intensive on 1 GB RAM too it runs pretty much smoothly.
psychopac said:
Right after Google released Android Nougat 7.0 and made the source available for developers to tinker with, devices started getting unofficial builds, even the ones that weren't officially supported but that's the beauty of Android, isn't it?
At the time of writing this, a bunch of developers have already booted up Nougat on their phones and are trying to fix whatever bugs are left.
So, coming to the point, do you think that we'll get an Android Nougat build? Considering that recently a dual-core processor phone Xperia M just booted into Android Nougat and as we all know that currently we're running Marshmallow which some users including myself feel that it's a bit resource-intensive than Lollipop(I have the 1gb variant).
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Different phone have their own speciality, do not argue that other phone have a lower spech that the other phone, and those lower phone have newest OS then you think its possible to have that oS on your higher phone spech. No mate
here you go
http://forum.one-teams.com/Konu-MIUI-8-v6-7-14-for-GM-4G-ARM64-DEV
MIUI 8
There are several problems with this base ROM:
It's built for ARM64, and, while our devices support it, Motorola have decided that it's better to run 32bit Android (don't know why but ok)
Its base is Android 4.4 KitKat. The G4 Play ships with 6.0.1 Marshmallow.
A much better choice would be the Moto G3 (2015)'s MIUI ROM here (base 6.0.1/CM13, 1GB RAM/8GB storage variant) since it is based on Marshmallow and runs 32-bit. I have tried to port it but it is stuck on the boot logo.
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There are several problems with this base ROM:
It's built for ARM64, and, while our devices support it, Motorola have decided that it's better to run 32bit Android (don't know why but ok)
Its base is Android 4.4 KitKat. The G4 Play ships with 6.0.1 Marshmallow.
A much better choice would be the Moto G3 (2015)'s MIUI ROM here (base 6.0.1/CM13, 1GB RAM/8GB storage variant) since it is based on Marshmallow and runs 32-bit. I have tried to port it but it is stuck on the boot logo.
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it's base is Lollipop 5.1 won't it help ?
bsevcenk said:
There are several problems with this base ROM:
It's built for ARM64, and, while our devices support it, Motorola have decided that it's better to run 32bit Android (don't know why but ok)
Its base is Android 4.4 KitKat. The G4 Play ships with 6.0.1 Marshmallow.
A much better choice would be the Moto G3 (2015)'s MIUI ROM here (base 6.0.1/CM13, 1GB RAM/8GB storage variant) since it is based on Marshmallow and runs 32-bit. I have tried to port it but it is stuck on the boot logo.
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You can also try porting this https://forum.xda-developers.com/yu-yuphoria/development/rom-miui-8-global-version-6-9-29-t3479996
also check out Yu Yuphoria's Custom rom section it has several 32bit and 64bit ROM'S SOC is Same and hence Porting can be Done .
Harry_00s.HS said:
You can also try porting this https://forum.xda-developers.com/yu-yuphoria/development/rom-miui-8-global-version-6-9-29-t3479996
also check out Yu Yuphoria's Custom rom section it has several 32bit and 64bit ROM'S SOC is Same and hence Porting can be Done .
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Thank you, I will definitely try, but it probably won't succeed because it is based on 5.1.1 while the Moto G4 Play ships with 6.0.1. I will let you know if it works.
bsevcenk said:
Thank you, I will definitely try, but it probably won't succeed because it is based on 5.1.1 while the Moto G4 Play ships with 6.0.1. I will let you know if it works.
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Yu Yuphoria has many MM roms Too you just have to check out some , One of them is cosmic OS
Can anyone explain to me what is this Harpia?
When I pull out my back cover of My Moto G4 play, I see Harpia GPS, Harpia WiFi, etc. I googled "Harpia" and found a bird named for it. Which type of company is it?
is the chipset and the kernel versions are related to each other ?
I have observed that phones using Snapdragon 617 chipset are you using the kernel version of 3.10 checked with Moto G4 Plus and on other phones like nubia , BlackBerry dtek, etc
while phones using Snapdragon 430 chipset are using kernel version 3.18.. for ex redmi 4, etc
so my question is kernel versions like 4.4 and other newer versions can't be developed by manufacturer or what? for Snapdragon 617 chipset
ajaikumarnadar said:
is the chipset and the kernel versions are related to each other ?
I have observed that phones using Snapdragon 617 chipset are you using the kernel version of 3.10 checked with Moto G4 Plus and on other phones like nubia , BlackBerry dtek, etc
while phones using Snapdragon 430 chipset are using kernel version 3.18.. for ex redmi 4, etc
so my question is kernel versions like 4.4 and other newer versions can't be developed by manufacturer or what? for Snapdragon 617 chipset
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They are not at all related to each other. Even in high ended smartphone you will notice 3.18 or above. As it is the minimum requirement for oreo build to function.
They are updated by oems and are maintain by company and are updated via ota.
As lenovo owned Motorola has officially announced oreo for moto g4 plus. As a pain in **s they have to update kernel first(which takes hell amount of time) n then have to push oreo update.
I think i was clear here.[emoji6]
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They are not at all related to each other. Even in high ended smartphone you will notice 3.18 or above. As it is the minimum requirement for oreo build to function.
They are updated by oems and are maintain by company and are updated via ota.
As lenovo owned Motorola has officially announced oreo for moto g4 plus. As a pain in **s they have to update kernel first(which takes hell amount of time) n then have to push oreo update.
I think i was clear here.[emoji6]
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thanks for the wonderful explanation.. i hope they bump kernel to 4.4 or newer..
ajaikumarnadar said:
thanks for the wonderful explanation.. i hope they bump kernel to 4.4 or newer..
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If you're referring to Moto, not a chance. It's too much work to rework the kernel to a such a new version. I suspect that is the same reason there's a much higher delay around with phones that release with Oreo (very few at this time, even the OP5T comes with Nougat).
For moto g5 plus there is 64bit custom rom will our device get 64bit to get Google camera 5.0 working.
Aby lad said:
For moto g5 plus there is 64bit custom rom will our device get 64bit to get Google camera 5.0 working.
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Actually, g5 runs snap 625 which is a 64 bit architect processor, where as 617(just functional is each for us).
So now you may have understood that its not the rom but the support from processor.
One should have easily rom it till now. But what the use of psp in rural area[emoji16]
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Actually, g5 runs snap 625 which is a 64 bit architect processor, where as 617(just functional is each for us).
So now you may have understood that its not the rom but the support from processor.
One should have easily rom it till now. But what the use of psp in rural area[emoji16]
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Snapdragon 617 is also a 64bit processor but stock rom os is 32 bit same as g5 plus and htc a9 has same processor but has 64bit os .
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Snapdragon 617 is also a 64bit processor but stock rom os is 32 bit same as g5 plus and htc a9 has same processor but has 64bit os .
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True, i checked in snaps official page and 617 is a 64 bit processor, sry for posting w/o verification.
Pn developer about it, may they can reply more efficiently and tell us also what they says.[emoji6]
If you gays are not soooo lazy you have done some research on the active threads and found the the procesor is 64bit but the bus is only 32 so is not worty have a 64 bit os since the bus will need twice cicle to transport the data.
Htc a9 has 64bit os and it work fine
Moto G4 Plus 64 bit custom ROMs
Aby lad said:
For moto g5 plus there is 64bit custom rom will our device get 64bit to get Google camera 5.0 working.
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Here it is.
https://www.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus-64-bit-custom-roms/
It is really nice that the developers are trying to make a x64 build for athene, but is los 15.1 the best option?
Because it is not stable by itself, and trying to make it stable AND 64 bit compatible at same time, isn't it too much effort? I understand that one way of thinking is "we can make it stable with 64 support already!", but maybe a port from 14.1, which is more stable, for 64 bit would show if it is worth or not (it will show what a 64 bits build can and cannot do, also performance), and in mean time, try to make 15.1 stable
I know that Dreamstar is doing almost all the job alone here (15.x and 64bits builds), so I'm thinking in try to make the 14.1 build port. I can code, but never did anything like that, not even close
Hi all,
I have a moto g5 plus which is not rooted but has an unlocked bootloader and twrp. If I get a security patch or Oreo update in the future do I have to do anything special to apply the update and if I download and reboot from the update screen what happens?
Thanks
You need to be on stock recovery for getting any type of update wether it is security update or major rom update.
If you download and update from update screen custom recovery (twrp) open and nothing happens or you get error in custom recovery (twrp).
Will the Oreo update be 64 bit instead of 32 bit which the stock rom comes with and does the moto z2 force come with a 32 bit rom because that's a weird decision especially since the snapdragon 835 is a very capable SOC.
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Will the Oreo update be 64 bit instead of 32 bit which the stock rom comes with and does the moto z2 force come with a 32 bit rom because that's a weird decision especially since the snapdragon 835 is a very capable SOC.
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Most likely not. It's unfortunate that Motorola doesn't make their OS 64 bit.
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Most likely not. It's unfortunate that Motorola doesn't make their OS 64 bit.
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Do you think it's a way for them to save money
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Do you think it's a way for them to save money
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I doubt it. It's definitely easier to build a 32 bit OS but not much more work.
I don't think it is possible to update from 32 bits to 64 without erasing all data.
Don't forget that there are people using the device thst knows almost nothing about technology, so it could be a problem for data loss.