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Soon to be Nexus 4 Owner , Any tips?

First of all Hello to all of ya Nexus'ers , How are ya's?
As the title says ,i've just ordered my 16GB Nexus 4 and its on its way to my place XD Expecting it in 3-5 business days (According to Play Store)
And i must admit...i really cant wait...this is gonna be me first real Top-Notch smartphone (As you can see in my signature, my earlier models werent exactly gutsy).
I've always been a Xperia user so im pretty much used to how that phone worked (Rooting,Recovery,CWM etc) but judging by a few posts i've seen around the N4 is going to be a whole new diferent world me.
Any of ya's got any tips for me to use my phone efficiently and get the most out of it ? (Or avoid doing something for w/e reason?)
Yeah it sounds like quite a newbye question (Which i dont think i am) but sometimes very few small tips avoid future major issues or damage.
Thanks in advance chaps ,
Respect.
EDIT : Tips so far from all of the awesome N4 users around :
-Buy : Case + Protector
-Mod : Unlock BL + Root + Flash ROMs or Kernels.
-Possible Issues : Rear Glass is very sensible.

The nexus 4 is my 7th android phone. I rooted and rom'd every one of them until now. For me, it is just that rock solid. I may eventually root for the permissions. But I haven't been tempted to replace the ROM. My suggestion is to just enjoy the stock android goodness!
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rogerski1 said:
The nexus 4 is my 7th android phone. I rooted and rom'd every one of them until now. For me, it is just that rock solid. I may eventually root for the permissions. But I haven't been tempted to replace the ROM. My suggestion is to just enjoy the stock android goodness!
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First of all thanks for the tips!
Yeah i've been looking around and i could see that besides benchmark scores...the diference between the diferent ROMs around isnt significant ,mostly just styling. So yeah i am thinking of just keeping the stock ROM not only for the Warranty but also the fact that i've always been fighting to get a stock AOKP/AOSP feel in my Xperias...and here it just comes by default XD.
Btw,can this phone be rooted without unlocking the bootloader ? And also will Rooting void the Warranty?
What about Hardware stuff ? As in...something i should know about the phone casing or interior issues?
Respect

You need to unlock bootloader to root.
More tips: this phone has a /sdcard partition. It won't get wiped when you factoy reset. It's a good thing to know.

don't RMA for stupid reasons.

@aba Oh alright ,hmm thats making me think if i should unlock the bootloader or not.
@m4r0v3r No worries mate, unless there is a important and/or noticeable issues ,i'm not planning to RMA it.

xtrmshadow said:
@aba Oh alright ,hmm thats making me think if i should unlock the bootloader or not.
@m4r0v3r No worries mate, unless there is a important and/or noticeable issues ,i'm not planning to RMA it.
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good stuff, I guess unlock, root, and flash another kernel on is the first thing to do, personally I prefer Matrixes kernel and trickster mod to tame the beast. Roms wise I've used Paranoid Android and CM10.1, really it was all for the PIE feature and I prefer the one on CM10.1. Your choice really, but that's the only reason am not on stock rom because that thing is pretty damn good.

Like someone suggested, unlock and root, then play with stock for a while. It will be a similar to your past cm10.1 experience. But just see how it works for you. Then, go ahead and flash away.
I've had cm on mine for months, but then I had to flash the factory image to fix the storage issue and I've stayed with it for the last week.
No matter what, enjoy it!
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Unlock the bootloader so if you decide to root or flash custom roms you can do so without fully wiping your device allowing you to back up your data before
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Get a case, and screen protector.
I like Cruzerlite. The back of the phone is glass. I would set up some cloud apps if you already haven't. Adrive and box gave me 50gb each. I stayed with stock for some time, but I didn't know what I was missing out on. I stayed stock for so long, because my last phone only had cm9.I wanted to feel jelly bean. I couldn't stand the bottom three buttons and pie control has taken care of that. I use razbeanjelly rom with Franco kernel. With the new kernel my battery life is so much longer.
Look up what your new phone can do and iPhone can't.
Have fun
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I agree. Get a case to protect your investment and from accidental falls. So yeah you must be unlock in order to root the device.
And don't ask what rom or kernel is the best. Lol.
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Just want to give my experience - better to unlock as soon as you get it, I regret not doing that because I had to do a full wipe after using the phone for a few weeks!

So I'm toying with the idea of getting a new phone. Currently using an SGS3 and I'm getting bored of it. I've gotten really used to using CM10.1, and have been wanting a more native experience that is akin to what I have on my N7. The problem is, on my SGS3 I'm having issues with various roms either not giving me good enough battery life, or there are stability issues (current ROM is actually experiencing both right now).
I've been toying with the idea of going entirely new, either HTC One or SGS4, but the downside to either is that the community for both are infantile, and I don't really want to wait. Both phones have some fantastic qualities, and either would be great. However, going back to what I originally said, I'm really liking the base Android feel, without any junk overlaid (TouchWiz or HTC Sense, though Sense 5 is kind of pretty).
I guess that leads in to a couple of questions. First, would anyone recommend NOT switching from SGS3 to an N4? Would I be prudent to wait for Google I/O before going with an N4 in case they release new hardware revisions? And finally, if given a choice between the 4 devices listed (SGS3, SGS4, HTC One or N4), what would be the pick? I know they have a laundry list of differences, but I'm thinking a more overall picture. The only phone listed that I haven't actually physically used is the SGS4 (for reasonably obvious reasons). I've been really leaning towards an N4, but are there any major downsides that I might want to know about? The biggest thing is whether or not I should go with the brand new or with something that is somewhat more established.
Sorry for the slight hijack.

toxictaru said:
So I'm toying with the idea of getting a new phone. Currently using an SGS3 and I'm getting bored of it. I've gotten really used to using CM10.1, and have been wanting a more native experience that is akin to what I have on my N7. The problem is, on my SGS3 I'm having issues with various roms either not giving me good enough battery life, or there are stability issues (current ROM is actually experiencing both right now).
I've been toying with the idea of going entirely new, either HTC One or SGS4, but the downside to either is that the community for both are infantile, and I don't really want to wait. Both phones have some fantastic qualities, and either would be great. However, going back to what I originally said, I'm really liking the base Android feel, without any junk overlaid (TouchWiz or HTC Sense, though Sense 5 is kind of pretty).
I guess that leads in to a couple of questions. First, would anyone recommend NOT switching from SGS3 to an N4? Would I be prudent to wait for Google I/O before going with an N4 in case they release new hardware revisions? And finally, if given a choice between the 4 devices listed (SGS3, SGS4, HTC One or N4), what would be the pick? I know they have a laundry list of differences, but I'm thinking a more overall picture. The only phone listed that I haven't actually physically used is the SGS4 (for reasonably obvious reasons). I've been really leaning towards an N4, but are there any major downsides that I might want to know about? The biggest thing is whether or not I should go with the brand new or with something that is somewhat more established.
Sorry for the slight hijack.
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Between the 4 devices, I would pick the N4, simply for the fact that vanilla Android is just so much prettier than Touchwiz and Sense. Plus, the Nexus looks better that the One and the S4, in my opinion.
To find flaws for the other devices, the One only has a 4mp camera, and, although they say it's still a very good camera, I have my doubts. The SGS4 is the live proof that Samsung has run out of ideas for their phones. Why would anyone need two processors on a phone , running alternatively, just for battery life? They could have done something else with that unused space.

abaaaabbbb63 said:
Between the 4 devices, I would pick the N4, simply for the fact that vanilla Android is just so much prettier than Touchwiz and Sense. Plus, the Nexus looks better that the One and the S4, in my opinion.
To find flaws for the other devices, the One only has a 4mp camera, and, although they say it's still a very good camera, I have my doubts. The SGS4 is the live proof that Samsung has run out of ideas for their phones. Why would anyone need two processors on a phone , running alternatively, just for battery life? They could have done something else with that unused space.
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The camera on the One is a big downside for me. I've seen some comparisons and it definitely has visible differences. While I don't take a lot of pictures, when I do, I want them to look good. Fortunately the 8MP camera in my SGS3 has been good, and I don't necessarily think that the N4 would be a whole lot different.
I agree that the vanilla Android look is awesome. It is currently a big reason why I'm looking to get away from my SGS3 like I said. I've been using a CM10.1 based ROM on it, and I can't go back to TouchWiz at all. Obviously my N7 is using vanilla Android as well, and I'm just so used to it now that anything else is bleh. It really feels better, having used a few different interfaces on Android phones (my first was an HTC Desire using some version of Sense, obviously TouchWiz, and I've played with Sense 5, none of them appeal to me any more).
I'm trying to price an N4 right now so that I might just head out tomorrow and get one.
I know there are some threads on it, but how obvious is the heat throttling on the N4? I do play some games that generate heat (for example, the last Kairosoft game I played causing my tablet to become almost uncomfortably warm, and I do play Ingress with tends to make my SGS3 pretty warm as well). If I have any reservations about the N4 aside from lack of expandable storage (easily solved with USB OTG though, which I do with my N7 anyway), its the throttling and battery life.

toxictaru said:
The camera on the One is a big downside for me. I've seen some comparisons and it definitely has visible differences. While I don't take a lot of pictures, when I do, I want them to look good. Fortunately the 8MP camera in my SGS3 has been good, and I don't necessarily think that the N4 would be a whole lot different.
I agree that the vanilla Android look is awesome. It is currently a big reason why I'm looking to get away from my SGS3 like I said. I've been using a CM10.1 based ROM on it, and I can't go back to TouchWiz at all. Obviously my N7 is using vanilla Android as well, and I'm just so used to it now that anything else is bleh. It really feels better, having used a few different interfaces on Android phones (my first was an HTC Desire using some version of Sense, obviously TouchWiz, and I've played with Sense 5, none of them appeal to me any more).
I'm trying to price an N4 right now so that I might just head out tomorrow and get one.
I know there are some threads on it, but how obvious is the heat throttling on the N4? I do play some games that generate heat (for example, the last Kairosoft game I played causing my tablet to become almost uncomfortably warm, and I do play Ingress with tends to make my SGS3 pretty warm as well). If I have any reservations about the N4 aside from lack of expandable storage (easily solved with USB OTG though, which I do with my N7 anyway), its the throttling and battery life.
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I haven't had any heat problems with the N4. Those were new android users that thought that a 40 degree Celsius processor is an overheating one

Had mine for like two+ months now. It's my seventh android phone. I rooted it and changed it as soon as I opened the box. I have since played with stock ROMs and while they are nice I don't see the point in not running a faster and smoother ROM with more features. Its what nexus is all about IMO.
Enjoy it. I do.
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the htc one goes for $800 on ebay. .the nexus 4 can be had for $300. So if you pay the same price for both, get htc > sell > buy nexus 4 > have leftover cash.
I just ordered 2 nexus 4. here are some issues to look out for.
creaking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbx825UGZWw
yellowing tint (can't find link)
gap in bezel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2129337
thread listing a bunch of possible issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146600

As some one above mentioned,unlock the bootloader before installing any thing.This would save a lot trouble later if you want to switch to custom ROM.
I would suggest try Paranoid Android or CyanogenMod,they would serve the need of the most.

bob13bob said:
the htc one goes for $800 on ebay. .the nexus 4 can be had for $300. So if you pay the same price for both, get htc > sell > buy nexus 4 > have leftover cash.
I just ordered 2 nexus 4. here are some issues to look out for.
creaking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbx825UGZWw
yellowing tint (can't find link)
gap in bezel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2129337
thread listing a bunch of possible issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146600
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I wish I could get them for the same price, but no such luck.

Nexus 6P, MXP killer?

To start, I'm definitely satisfied with my 64gb, black leather and red accent MXP. My biggest concern right now is the announcement of the Nexus 6P. Modders/developers, will this effect the potential of future development for the MXP? I'm with Verizon, so my choices on rootable/unlocked devices is very limited. Anyone else concerned and debating on selling/returning MXP? Also, with Android M announced, this will now show how truthful Motorola was on updating MXP.

I am happy with Moto. Nexus 6p is not much better oh and more expensive.
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I haven't even seen my custom MXP yet and I'm debating returning it. My MXP has been at my house since September 18, but I'm at college and won't be able to retrieve it until October 10. I only have a few days left whether to tell my Mom to return it or not (Motorola only allows returns within 14 days of delivery).
The Nexus 6P definitely looks like the better overall phone spec-wise. But the differences are marginal.
The upsides to the MXP that make this a very hard decision are the customization, so I like the design much better (doesn't look like an iPhone), and the Motorola apps that the phone comes with (I kinda like the fact that it's not 100% stock android, but close). I'll also be able to have it in my possession much earlier (Nexus 6P doesn't look like it's shipping until November).
The only reasons I'd go for the Nexus 6P is the bigger battery and the better dev support.
Very hard decision to make here. Motorola's customization should not be overlooked here, while I think that the Nexus 6P's marginally better specs could be.

patt2k said:
I am happy with Moto. Nexus 6p is not much better oh and more expensive.
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I know the two devices are so very similar with a $100 price difference. Just hoping modders will stick with developing for the MXP, biggest reasons for getting the MXP, was for near stock OS and development here at XDA.
Also, who should I donate to for development of CM for MXP? (I know it's probably a huge list of users, I do like compensating those for their time and efforts)

The only person I've seen doing anything with the MXP recently is Harsh. That is great but the odds of people suddenly grabbing this device for development, with its fairly obvious and well reported shortcomings is pretty low IMO. Especially with the nexus already announced and shipping in 30 days.
I bought my MXP on the third and still don't have the stupid thing. Sorry but that is pretty pathetic on Moto's part.
Add to all this Leno gutting Moto right before launch and the odds of updates being speedy being diminished greatly makes the MXP the riskier device.
I don't need the finger print scanner but its nice to have. I normally don't lock my phone but I would with the scanner and for last pass and bank stuff its really nice to not have to tap in my log pass word. Add to that Amoled is better and a better chipset that won't struggle when the gpu runs and bigger battery make the $100 a no brainer. My pure is most likely going back assuming it even gets here.

Spike96 said:
I haven't even seen my custom MXP yet and I'm debating returning it. My MXP has been at my house since September 18, but I'm at college and won't be able to retrieve it until October 10. I only have a few days left whether to tell my Mom to return it or not (Motorola only allows returns within 14 days of delivery).
The Nexus 6P definitely looks like the better overall phone spec-wise. But the differences are marginal.
The upsides to the MXP that make this a very hard decision are the customization, so I like the design much better (doesn't look like an iPhone), and the Motorola apps that the phone comes with (I kinda like the fact that it's not 100% stock android, but close). I'll also be able to have it in my possession much earlier (Nexus 6P doesn't look like it's shipping until November).
The only reasons I'd go for the Nexus 6P is the bigger battery and the better dev support.
Very hard decision to make here. Motorola's customization should not be overlooked here, while I think that the Nexus 6P's marginally better specs could be.
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I wouldn't return it, 6P is much more expensive per storage option and really you'd only be adding a fingerprint scanner, besides that its just a small step up. Also you probably wouldn't see it until years end since on the reddit threadspeoples delivery dates are now at mid-late november and that was hours ago.

The dang device has been out for 3 weeks! The developers that have the brand new device have had it for 3 weeks, and most wouldn't not buy another device after they just bought a $400 phone for a downgrade in specs! //rant
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I'll stick with this phone as long as there is some development, but i'll jump ship if there is no custom kernels / roms.

Orion116 said:
The dang device has been out for 3 weeks! The developers that have the brand new device have had it for 3 weeks, and most wouldn't not buy another device after they just bought a $400 phone for a downgrade in specs! //rant
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Valid point... Maybe with the 2 devices being so similar, developing for each might not be too different either and possibly porting 6p mods to MXP might be an option.

I'm having a little buyers regret as of today, but I'm not sure if it's worth the $100 more and I've grown to quite like the Moto sensor features and their "always listening" feature.... I use it much more than I thought I would.
I'm sitting here looking at a brand new OnePlus2 that I got yesterday - I received my invite and had to try it. I'm thinking I could sell that and get the 6P (with a little more $$ thrown in) and see what I think of it?
It's a never ending game.... In a couple months, a new Flagship will be out and I'll wish I had that too... I have to stop somewhere and pause for a while.

tele_jas said:
I'm having a little buyers regret as of today, but I'm not sure if it's worth the $100 more and I've grown to quite like the Moto sensor features and their "always listening" feature.... I use it much more than I thought I would.
I'm sitting here looking at a brand new OnePlus2 that I got yesterday - I received my invite and had to try it. I'm thinking I could sell that and get the 6P (with a little more $$ thrown in) and see what I think of it?
It's a never ending game.... In a couple months, a new Flagship will be out and I'll wish I had that too... I have to stop somewhere and pause for a while.
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I have a OnePlus 2 invite as well. I was thinking about trying out lol, mainly because of the fingerprint and Snap 810. I already ordered the Nexus 64GB Aluminum and I will be sending this Moto back.

shadymouse said:
I have a OnePlus 2 invite as well. I was thinking about trying out lol, mainly because of the fingerprint and Snap 810. I already ordered the Nexus 64GB Aluminum and I will be sending this Moto back.
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The OP2 sounds pretty weak (speaker) compared to the MXP. It even sounds pretty weak compared to a Galaxy S6/S6 Edge/iPhone..... Also, during the initial setup my battery went from 93% to 52% in just a 35-40 minute period. This included downloading and applying the 2.1 Oxygen update and several apps from the app store and restarting after the update. My M9 had a Snapdragon 810 and it was snappier than the OP2, IMO, and sounded a lot better too.
I did like the off-screen buttons and the home button/fingerprint scanner.
I think that's what I'll do.... Sell it for as close to the $400 I paid (after shipping) for it and put that back for a N6P.
The biggest complaint I have about the MXP is I can't find a screen protector to fit it!

tele_jas said:
The OP2 sounds pretty weak (speaker) compared to the MXP. It even sounds pretty weak compared to a Galaxy S6/S6 Edge/iPhone..... Also, during the initial setup my battery went from 93% to 52% in just a 35-40 minute period. This included downloading and applying the 2.1 Oxygen update and several apps from the app store and restarting after the update. My M9 had a Snapdragon 810 and it was snappier than the OP2, IMO, and sounded a lot better too.
I did like the off-screen buttons and the home button/fingerprint scanner.
I think that's what I'll do.... Sell it for as close to the $400 I paid (after shipping) for it and put that back for a N6P.
The biggest complaint I have about the MXP is I can't find a screen protector to fit it!
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Interesting... Thanks for the response. I recommend the 6P pre-order, this phone looks like it will be a winner. Huawei makes pretty nice phones, I'm glad they teamed up with Google. I was thinking about getting the OPT still but trying out HydrogenOS, I'm hearing good things about it and of course you always have CM.

You don't have cm with OnePlus 2... They ended their relationship a long time ago, hence why they had to go to Oxygen.
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The oneplus one was great. I had an invite for the 2 but I passed on it for the Pure. Now my pure is going back as its not living up to expectations and I have the BIg P on pre order.
Its like $50 more for the nexus. Lots of little things make that worth it, biggest of all is the development on the nexus will be much better.

For me switching to the Nexus will only cost me about $5 more or $55 more if I do a 64GB since I spent $475 on the Moto with 32GB and wood cover and $20 on a memory card I probably don't need but bought simply because I could lol. So take away the memory card and the upgrade is only $25 but I get a better battery, fingerprint reader, instant updates, at least 2 years of updates, maybe better camera, AMOLED displace, notification light, etc....seems like a good deal at least for me.

PolishDude said:
For me switching to the Nexus will only cost me about $5 more or $55 more if I do a 64GB since I spent $475 on the Moto with 32GB and wood cover and $20 on a memory card I probably don't need but bought simply because I could lol. So take away the memory card and the upgrade is only $25 but I get a better battery, fingerprint reader, instant updates, at least 2 years of updates, maybe better camera, AMOLED displace, notification light, etc....seems like a good deal at least for me.
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I'm basically in the same situation. 64gb with leather and have a 64gb SanDisk UHS 3 card. If I bought the 64gb 6p I would save money. I might just keep MXP so I don't have to deal with selling it.

shadymouse said:
I have a OnePlus 2 invite as well. I was thinking about trying out lol, mainly because of the fingerprint and Snap 810. I already ordered the Nexus 64GB Aluminum and I will be sending this Moto back.
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Just to update you on something, OT here...
I boxed up my MXP this morning and have been using the OP2 all day... I've got about 10 hours of up-time with about 1:20 SOT and I'm at 77% on my battery. To be honest, this feels just about like the MXP... And I'm hoping this gets better after a few days of use (set up like a new ROM last night before bed).
I've had wifi on all day, took more calls than usual (4 calls), listened to music through my speaker (still sounds weak) and played 3 songs though my bluetooth speaker, just to test it out........Plus all the normal texting, email, weather, app updates, ect...
So the battery seems to be better after initial setup, which I'm extremely glad!
Now, if I can just make it with this super weak speaker for 5 weeks until my N6P arrives, that's gonna be the hardest!

tele_jas said:
Just to update you on something, OT here...
I boxed up my MXP this morning and have been using the OP2 all day... I've got about 10 hours of up-time with about 1:20 SOT and I'm at 77% on my battery. To be honest, this feels just about like the MXP... And I'm hoping this gets better after a few days of use (set up like a new ROM last night before bed).
I've had wifi on all day, took more calls than usual (4 calls), listened to music through my speaker (still sounds weak) and played 3 songs though my bluetooth speaker, just to test it out........Plus all the normal texting, email, weather, app updates, ect...
So the battery seems to be better after initial setup, which I'm extremely glad!
Now, if I can just make it with this super weak speaker for 5 weeks until my N6P arrives, that's gonna be the hardest!
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So I ended up passing. I ordered the product and I saw the processing time may take 5-10 days. Who know, maybe we'll get lucky and the 6P ships early (fingers crossed) . I've been using my OPO and It's still smooth as day one, so I will hold on to it and use it as my backup phone. I will probably use the OPT money for a smartwatch, the Samsung Gear S2 comes out tomorrow.

shadymouse said:
So I ended up passing. I ordered the product and I saw the processing time may take 5-10 days. Who know, maybe we'll get lucky and the 6P ships early (fingers crossed) . I've been using my OPO and It's still smooth as day one, so I will hold on to it and use it as my backup phone. I will probably use the OPT money for a smartwatch, the Samsung Gear S2 comes out tomorrow.
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Sounds like a good plan! I never had the OPO, but it seems to still have a pretty strong following.
FWIW: I was told there was a 5-10 processing period too, ordered it Thursday evening.....Tried to cancel it a couple hours later and was told "it's already been processed and cannot be cancelled now".... It arrived Monday morning. So I think the 5-10 day is a CYA thing they use, which isn't a bad thing, I guess?
I did the Smartwatch thing earlier this year (Moto360 than a Sony SW3)... Loved it at first, but it only lasted about a month. I didn't like the bluetooth drain on the battery..... My OCD already watches my phone battery too much, with the extra drain and now another device to watch the battery on, I didn't get anything done!

Would you buy this phone again, tomorrow?

Hello all
Been a flash addict for years now, and have always loved Nexus line of phones. This last year I got the LG V10 (preordered) instead of the 6P.
I am still using my V10 and have very few real complaints with it. But I miss being able to root
I see the deal on Beat Buy for a refurb 32G 6P ~$315 and want to pull the trigger.
Would you guys pull the trigger on this phone, having used it the last X amount of months already? I want to have a phone I can enjoy, flash anything on, and still at the end of the day enjoy as much as my V10
Thx for the input!
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Most definitely. I love stock Android and the fact that I'm already using Android n and will have the final official version months before. Overall I like Samsung hardware/design but their downfall is 5+ month wait for updates and the fact that touchwiz starts to lag. That in my opinion is unacceptable. I also love the stereo speakers and the big screen. Overall it's the perfect package at least for me
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Thank you!
I am blessed with a great camera on the V10. However even though it's one of the most vanilla OS skins LGs UI has begun to lag horrendously over the last couple months.
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The 6p is the best phone I've ever had. I don't even look at, or shop for other phones and I don't think I will for a while. The only thing it sucks at, imho, are macro photos.
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Definitely. One detraction: thermal throttling SUCKS on there 6p. Until you root and change there thermal settings, gaming is crap. Otherwise, love it!
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I'll be honest with you, and I doubt many people would feel the same way I do, but I recently bought a 6p (simply because of the ridiculous price I managed to snag it at) which I use as a travel phone and something to store my offline Spotify playlists on.
My main phone is an S7 Edge, begrudgingly bought as the Note 5 wasn't released in the UK and I had previously used a Note 4.
After playing around with the 6p, I find myself gravitating towards it.
It's a fantastic phone, don't get me wrong- it's huge, but it's freakin' incredible.
I'm genuinely considering swapping my sim over to my 6p and leaving the S7 Edge on the side.
The only thing that keeps me with the S7 is the camera, however, I can't fault the 6p.
It's a great phone.
I'd highly recommend it.
Oh also, I'm running the Android N Dev preview.
It's FANTASTIC.
Just my opinion

As someone who has bought and sold over half a dozen phones in 2 years, I dumped my Note 4 for the 6P and haven't looked back. I've had it for about a year now, and I have no desire to get anything else. The others all left me wanting in some way, but I'm thoroughly impressed with the 6P. I'd buy it again in a heartbeat if I had to, it's definitely worth the price.

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As someone who has bought and sold over half a dozen phones in 2 years, I dumped my Note 4 for the 6P and haven't looked back. I've had it for about a year now, and I have no desire to get anything else. The others all left me wanting in some way, but I'm thoroughly impressed with the 6P. I'd buy it again in a heartbeat if I had to, it's definitely worth the price.
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Can you give me a detailed pros vs cons between the two phones? Thank you.
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Bought mine late (a few months ago) after my LG G4 died twice (boot loop error and wifi issues, and my wife's G4 is doing the same now). I wouldn't think a phone that has been out this long would still be on top, but this thing is great. I have no issue with the camera (yes, its slow in HDR, but it has to process the image), the fingerprint sensor is a must-have (my first phone with one), and the size is perfect. Its big, but not too big. Screen is awesome too. My only issue is with the bluetooth, and its just minor stuff, but I'm not a heavy BT user to begin with. Battery is amazing so far as well. I will not go back to LG for quite some time. I loved my G3, but the G4 was total garbage. The camera was good, but waaaaaay overprocessed by their software.
The 6P is a total winner

I got mine as a gift (yeah I know) in July. I love this phone. Yeah, granted gameplay isn't the greatest for me. For graphic intense games stutter quite a bit and battery life isn't the greatest (I think this phone might be defective), but vanilla Android has been the way to go for me. The HTC 10 would've been my next choice though. So in short, yes I would definitely buy this phone.

Thank you all for the input. I am hoping that best buy will still be offering the refurb 32g at the $315 price point next week when I get paid... Does anyone know if it will still be up at that point?
I find myself wanting this phone more now that I know it can be had, I wanted this phone when it was released. I will definitely pull the trigger if the deal is still going next week.
Thank you!
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Thank you all for the input. I am hoping that best buy will still be offering the refurb 32g at the $315 price point next week when I get paid... Does anyone know if it will still be up at that point?
I find myself wanting this phone more now that I know it can be had, I wanted this phone when it was released. I will definitely pull the trigger if the deal is still going next week.
Thank you!
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I think you could find a better price on swappa or similar. Amazon prime was selling them cheap. Not sure about the best by y promotion though, sorry
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Definetely I would buy it again. On Nougat DP4 it's massive.

Absolutely. What other phone out right now today is as good as a high end pure Android phone ? Galaxy S7 Edge ? LOL no thanks. HTC 10 ? Been there done that was ok. OnePlus Three ? LOL nope. iPhone ? HAHA

My wife gifted me a 6P at Xmas last year to replace my aging HTC M7. I have to say this is the best phone I've had. However I would not purchase one tomorrow, it is far to close to the release of a new set of Nexus devices to even consider purchasing this phone right now. I would personally wait and do one of two things.
1. When the new Nexus comes out and if money isn't an issue I'd go ahead and pickup whatever replaces the 6p.
2. When the new Nexus comes out and if I wanted bang for buck I'd buy a heavily discounted 6p.

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I think you could find a better price on swappa or similar. Amazon prime was selling them cheap. Not sure about the best by y promotion though, sorry
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Could you or anyone else find a better deal? I've looked a bit... But I'll search some more before buying. Thanks!!!
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It's the best phone I've ever had. the battery life is awesome for me (5-6h SoT), fast charge, great camera, great screen size, fast fingerprint scanner, I couldn't go back to a phone without front facing speakers. Yes I would buy this phone again tomorrow

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I got mine as a gift (yeah I know) in July. I love this phone. Yeah, granted gameplay isn't the greatest for me. For graphic intense games stutter quite a bit and battery life isn't the greatest (I think this phone might be defective), but vanilla Android has been the way to go for me. The HTC 10 would've been my next choice though. So in short, yes I would definitely buy this phone.
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It's not defective. Heat throttling.
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I was about to post a disappointed with 6p post in general but I'll start here instead. I LOVE Android and the phones and want to love the 6p but I just cannot keep it as my primary.
What I love:
Screen is beautiful
Battery life and charging speed are great
Speakers are really nice
Phenomenal cameras
Why I can't keep using it:
Phone conversation quality is just above terrible with headphones. I have constant complaints over the quality on the other end when I use any headphones, doesn't matter brand, style, etc. Would LOVE any fixes people have found.
The 810 is a horrible processor. I cannot believe how hot this phone has to get to just run average games. I live between the iOS and Android world, l just enjoy seeing what they both have to offer. My nearly 2yr old 6+ crushes the 6p in gaming, any game, any tweak, doesn't matter they just run better. On top of that using the thermal tweak to reduce, it doesn't get rid of, the gaming lag turns the phone into lump of hot coal. I can't comfortably take a call if I've been playing a game.
Ambient display, I've had to turn it off because no matter how I positioned my phone it would turn on in my pocket and I'd have a long typed up message of garble or something else very random on screen.
I so badly want to love this phone, it's a great size, I love Google integration, I love Android, I just can't use it as a daily driver.

Yes and no.
It's a great phone with a gorgeous screen and big display But..... The 810 Is horrible and throttles heavily, the build quality isn't great and the videos are horrible without OIS. I wouldn't buy it again at this point in time, I'd wait for the Note 7 or the next Nexus.
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Need To Move On

Battery on my Release Day N6 is dying. Only charges on the Turbo Charge and drains way to fast.
I can move on and the Pixel XL looks like my best option, (I'm not in love wit the Pixel) because the Moto Z Force will never have root and that's a great phone.
OR
My buddy does phone repair and has the heat gun, tools etc and I can swap batteries with another N6 I have that the screen is shattered on. But It'd be a week before I can get to his house :/
Truth is, I'm ready for a new phone. What do YOU guys think, is there one I'm missing that I can love as much as the N6, or just fix mine and hope VZW gets the Zenfone AR if it ever gets released?

I just got oneplus 3t just for the time being. Honestly, it is one of the best phone for the price. Had honor 8 briefly, but I'm not a fan of EMUI 5.0. plus honor U.S.A is pretty slow rolling out the software update.
Oneplus is pretty fast on updating their software. I mean at the end of the day, Its kinda ridiculous to spend $650 and up for a smartphone nowadays.
Oh and I still have my nexus 6 as my back up, the phone is still getting the job done for my usage.

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I just got oneplus 3t just for the time being. Honestly, it is one of the best phone for the price. Had honor 8 briefly, but I'm not a fan of EMUI 5.0. plus honor U.S.A is pretty slow rolling out the software update.
Oneplus is pretty fast on updating their software. I mean at the end of the day, Its kinda ridiculous to spend $650 and up for a smartphone nowadays.
Oh and I still have my nexus 6 as my back up, the phone is still getting the job done for my usage.
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Nexus 6 batteries are between $12 & $20 on Amazon. That's pretty cheap. I think it's worth the trouble. There's some YouTube videos on changing that battery and it doesn't look too difficult. Plus you have an extra Nexus 6 to practice on if I'm reading the OP correctly.

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Nexus 6 batteries are between $12 & $20 on Amazon. That's pretty cheap. I think it's worth the trouble. There's some YouTube videos on changing that battery and it doesn't look too difficult. Plus you have an extra Nexus 6 to practice on if I'm reading the OP correctly.
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That's the way I'm gonna go. I really don't want a Pixel, unless someone finds root for the Droid Z Force or that Asus comes to Verizon

Nexus 6p or buy another Nexus 6

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That's the way I'm gonna go. I really don't want a Pixel, unless someone finds root for the Droid Z Force or that Asus comes to Verizon
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I still love my shamu 64GB I plan on changing my battery whenever it stops holding a charge. All rechargeable batteries have a finite number of times they can be charged before they start acting the way yours is now. Once your battery is replaced with a quality replacement you'll likely be good for a couple of years and shamu is still an awesome device in my opinion. I'm a little apprehensive about changing my own Nexus 6 battery but when the time comes I'm gonna give it a try. Let us know how it goes.

@HipKat don't go for Nexus 5x or 6p as both suffers from some hardware related bootloop issue. Just go to their respective forums and anyone can have a look at the Q&A section. Not worth the trouble as the phone is bound to randomly die at some point.
If those are your only option and you won't change carrier to get a OnePlus 3T, then I would go for one of the Pixels as they at least has good custom ROM support. If you don't care about custom ROM support then it's up to your preference.

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@HipKat don't go for Nexus 5x or 6p as both suffers from some hardware related bootloop issue. Just go to their respective forums and anyone can have a look at the Q&A section. Not worth the trouble as the phone is bound to randomly die at some point.
If those are your only option and you won't change carrier to get a OnePlus 3T, then I would go for one of the Pixels as they at least has good custom ROM support. If you don't care about custom ROM support then it's up to your preference.
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Believe me, custom development is a HUGE factor and I wouldn't go for an old phone.
@bigbaluka I watched a few vids and it seems decent. Like I posted, my buddy has all the tools. We work for Dish Network and he's one of the guys that does screen repair and battery replacement for iPhone and Samsung devices. (Don'tr ask me WHY Dish is doing this....)

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Believe me, custom development is a HUGE factor and I wouldn't go for an old phone.
@bigbaluka I watched a few vids and it seems decent. Like I posted, my buddy has all the tools. We work for Dish Network and he's one of the guys that does screen repair and battery replacement for iPhone and Samsung devices. (Don'tr ask me WHY Dish is doing this....)
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I'm not sure I'd replace the 6 for a 6p or a 5X. I got a 5X and it was more for the size, but I can't say it overperforms the 6 plus there are the potential bootloop issues. The Pixel is OK, but you'll be paying up big time and esp if you are not really keen about it, it's a decent chunk of money to drop down. Sounds like you like your 6, I'd just try and replace the battery since it sounds like that's the only issue. It were different if it was a broken screen or something else, but battery I'd just do that.

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I'm not sure I'd replace the 6 for a 6p or a 5X. I got a 5X and it was more for the size, but I can't say it overperforms the 6 plus there are the potential bootloop issues. The Pixel is OK, but you'll be paying up big time and esp if you are not really keen about it, it's a decent chunk of money to drop down. Sounds like you like your 6, I'd just try and replace the battery since it sounds like that's the only issue. It were different if it was a broken screen or something else, but battery I'd just do that.
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Yeah, agreed. I did 2 things, found a different USB cable, which looks like it solved the charging problem and switched to Dark Rom which seems to have amazing battery life. I think it'll still drain faster until I get the battery switched, so I must have had a few problems going on; bad cable, deteriorating ROM and battery that doesn't hold a charge like It used to

While my N6 isn't quick as old as yours, I have definitely noticed a lag of late. Taking pictures especially.
And while it might be nowhere near the same class as the N6, I think the Moto G5 Plus might be a good replacement. Sure, the screen size is considerably smaller, it lacks dual front-facing speakers, NFC, etc. but that price! I like the design, and as the kernel source code has already been released, my hope is that the dev community will build some nice roms for this little guy.
We'll see what Motorola does with the true Moto X replacement (not the "Is it a Moto X or is it a Moto E" we are seeing). But that Moto G5 Plus price is hard to ignore.
I just think the Pixel is too expensive. They might solve all of the issues with the release of the Pixel 2, but who wants to spend $1k on a phone?

@Fvolfrine and others:
Lag when starting the camera is a feature of Android from around KitKat or so. The ram that the camera needs is made available for other use, and then the camera has to wait for it to be released.
It makes other apps faster, but the start of the camera significantly shower. You may agree or disagree with that trade-off, but as far as I know, it's the same on all recent phones. Though of course, it matters less if the phone has a lot of ram.
From what I read, the Moto G5 plus has hardware that is approximately as powerful as the N6. So the only way it can have less lag is if its rom is better optimized - and while that may be the case for the stock roms, the N6 has a large community of devs that provide greatly optimized roms.

@runekock - my lag isn't so much when starting the camera as it is when taking a picture. Even with HDR+ turned off, it takes 4-5 seconds for the picture to take. I've had this same experience on stock, and now on PureNexus, which I flashed about five days ago.

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@runekock - my lag isn't so much when starting the camera as it is when taking a picture. Even with HDR+ turned off, it takes 4-5 seconds for the picture to take. I've had this same experience on stock, and now on PureNexus, which I flashed about five days ago.
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There is no lag when using a custom kernel. Try using a kernel different from stock.
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Few weeks ago I wasn't able to turn on wifi any more. After factory reset and cache wipe I got it to turn on few times then it died again. I'm suspecting a hw problem. Now that Dark Rom is available for our phone, I might try my luck with that, but I'm not very optimistic.
I really liked this phone a lot. Now I have the option of getting new motherboard for 50€ or new phone (looking at iPhone 6s Plus or 7 Plus cause of that mega battery and brightness, but that price tho.. Was also looking at Pixel but I read it has too many problems + warranty outside my country).
Is Nexus 6 worth fixing (for 50€ + risk of messing something up during repair)?

For 50€ i would take the risk.

Used Nexus 6s still went for over US$100 last time I looked at ebay. If fixing one is $20, that seems a decent investment to me. My battery is about worn out so I will be doing just that soon.
If there are ever charging issues or USB cords falling out, check for lint in the USB port. My first N6 had that issue.

I started having charging issues with my 2 year old shamu a few months ago, getting a new oem charger fixed the problem for me and it's still going strong. I've got a 5x as well, but it doesn't get used much, shamu is a better device.

gonna add my own experience to the mix hoping it would be helpful to some, My N6's battery also started showing signs of a problem few month back after maybe more than a year of usage and it got worse over time. the problem is i cannot get my hand on a new battery anytime soon and i cannot use my N6 as a daily driver as it just dies randomly so i thought i go for the Galaxy S7 since the price was dropped prior to S8 launch and i did, but oh my, going from a heavily developed phone like N6 to S7 is really boring and no fun, might have just got an iphone and it would be just as dull.
so, if you gonna give up your N6 i suggest replace it with another nexus/pixel phone. but if you gonna keep it as a second phone (for whatever reason) then its up to you and your desires and needs, and ofc you cannot forget about the price tag.

My experience on moving on my Nexus 6.

Hello everyone! I hope you're all doing fine. Since I recently had the privilege to upgrade my Nexus 6 to One Plus 3T, I thought I should share my experience for all those thinking about the doing same. However, there is a plot twist as you read through the account. I got the One Plus 3T 128GB in used condition for about 350$ without the DASH charger (I was given a 4 amp OPPO VOOC charger which didn't turned out to be compatible with One Plus's DASH charge technology as claimed by the seller). Anyways, on my way home I started playing around with my new device and the first thing that got me depressed about my decision was this major screen downgrade, like literally it felt so unpleasant to my eyes. Secondly, I don't know if I'm being to choosy here but I could clearly see the difference between the drastic resolution shift from Nexus's Quad HD panel to One Plus's 1080p screen while watching videos on YouTube. As I reached home I played some songs and oh well the sound loudness couldn't compete with Nexus's front firing Stereo speakers even though the sound quality was fine. The One Plus's whooping 6 gigs of RAM did bring about great performance but one could barely notice the difference coming a Nexus device (Stock Android). Another minor point and kind of strange thing was that I was constantly missing the on screen buttons so bad, I tried turning on this option on my One Plus but I was only able to do so at the cost of giving another inch or so of the already small screen size hence I decided to keep it off. The best thing I liked about One Plus was it's fingerprint scanner, blazingly fast and a welcoming feature which the Nexus 6 had unfortunately missed. The second best thing has to be it's build quality, compact and slim size (It's way lighter then Nexus 6, you could clearly feel the difference). The camera was pretty solid too but I rarely used it so can't say much about it. The battery timing was great too (I didn't had much apps installed though). After using the device for about 4-5 hours I had made the decision... YES, I WANTED TO GO BACK TO MY NEXUS 6 SO BAD! The lack of those few extra inches and stereo speakers were really enough to make me realize that I shouldn't have made this upgrade, primarily because features like fingerprint scanner and good camera aren't really something I would find myself using often. Anyways, I went back to the seller and asked if we could work something out about this situation, he took the device back for 300$ (YES, I did make a compromise for my beloved Nexus ) and got my Nexus back from my dad as he was using it, installed latest version of Pure Nexus ( It's working great, try it out people) and everything was back to normal. It felt great. Lastly, trust me that One Plus is a great device, it's just my opinion on upgrading to it from Nexus 6, for someone who just wants to buy it, trust me it's worth your money, and I really like One Plus as a company too. This post is just for those people who don't have a good budget and want to do an upgrade, I highly suggest not to because you'll really end up missing your Nexus 6. It's a great device, trust me you only realize this once you're away from it. It's like I'm addicted to it. You can't get the same media experience on any other device. Also, we'll be soon seeing some Android Oreo development for the Nexus 6 Squad ( I can't really wait , waiting for a stable release even though there's one out there already). However, there are a few things that Nexus 6 really lacks such as a good front camera, fingerprint scanner, and USB type C yet it still makes a great device overall. Peace. If you liked this post, kindly give a thumbs up.

Good post, and i only have a regret about the front cam.
I would add to thid little mother****er a FM radio. But, it's a very personal thing.
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Just got me a shamu again. It felt goid to have again. Had a 6p and a lgv20. This n6 i have missed for a while. So glad to be back. N6p was great but im a shamu lover.Really hoping the bext pixel will be my next only if its at least as big as this shamu..
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How did you read that no paragraph, no comma, no full stop

I upgraded to a s7 only to regret it the screen, speakers and ROM development can not be matched by any other phone I don't use the camera or finger print scanner much so I ended up selling the s7 and buying 2 broken nexus 6 swaped parts around now I have 1 mint phone and a parts nexus 6 with amazing ROM development I don't see this slowing down anytime soon I plan on running this phone till I can find an equivalent replacement until then I am more then happy

I won't be doing it immediately, but I think I'll be shooting for the Pixel 2 XL late next year. Unlike a lot of people, I can live in most cases without the headphone jack, and can use the dongle the rest of time. Besides, I'm still a bit of a luddite. Even though I have multiple smartphones and my music in the cloud, I still keep a 16GB MP3 player around as a backup.
@skbhere: I didn't read your post, because you didn't break it up into concrete sentences and paragraphs. While what you want to say is important, how you present the information for others to see is just as important. By not using sentences and paragraphs, what you wanted to say got lost because most people won't bother trying to read it.

Yeah.. i preorder 2xl.. but for the $$$ and no reward for preorder.. stupid google home thing i will never use...im going to cancel and wait for development to happen... But a $1k device might be slow .. also rumors OnePlus is releasing another device .. maybe with larger screen??.. im gonna wait
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I couldn't agree more. I for a minute had a lgv20. Its size wasnt an issue but the UI. So I sent it back. Through a snafu with Verizon I ended up with a free Droid Turbo and Its been my back up phone for the times my beloved Nexus 6 has been down with a broken screen. Though its as close to the N6 within. It was still not even close. I now have a Verizon bought( unrooted as I didn't do my homework and made assumptions regarding its ability to be rooted) Pixle XL and although its much quicker and its screen is a bit nicer. I still have my Nexus 6 at home ready to go. I use the Pixle as my daily and it goes with me whenever I leave home. However the minute I walk in the door in the evenings I will grab my Nexus and use it for all of my media, fidlefarting around on the web and messing with anyone foolish enough to join my wifi. The screen size , forward facing stereo speakers and ability to run countless roms ( including my favorite dirty Unicorns with the Kali's Nethunter) keeps my Nexus 6 fresh and usable. I will say that I wish my Nexus was as fast as the Pixle. However is slowness in comparison to the Pixle something I am willing to endure at least for the time being. I'll end with this , I too have extra parts for my Nexus 6. It's currently a phone of from 3 as I have bought broken phones from ebay to construct it with a screen from 1, a main board from another and battery from yet another( with one more battery in reserve) and I will ride this phone out till it no longer works or becomes too antiquated and slow to serve its current purposes. Its the best phone I have owned and I have owned a whole ****ton of different phones going all the way back to the OG Driod.

I moved on from my Nexus 6 as my DD quite a while ago, only because it was too big to comfortably carry with me (it didn't fit in my purse ) But I still use it all the time at home, none of my other devices come close to it for media and that big beautiful screen. On Validus Oreo now, I've been running a GZR ROM on it since the day I got it, in Dec 2014. Love my shamu <3