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[Q] another rooting razr m post questions

had trave mod wifi with motochopper root on my old razr m, turned off the update message, phone was about 6 months old and took a ****
got a replacement phone on the old update (yay!!) and never even thought about it updating because i figured there had to be something out for the new update by now... had the phone for 2 days and woke up the morning after a good drunk (hung over like a mofo) and was trying to send a text when the update popped up and i hit yes.... so 98.30.1.xt907 is what im on now and appears to be an epic fail at this point lol
my bootloader is locked and 4G is the only internet out in my area so im not paying verizon $100 a month for internet again... so my questions.
I dont really need root if i can use mobile hotspot or foxfi or w/e wifi app for free. Id pay for the app if it unlocked the ability to use mobile hotspot...is it possible and is there one out there?
If i cant do it without root is there one out there for the new update (searched this hard far and wide doesnt look good)
If there is no hope of free mobile hotspot on this phone what are a couple newer 4g phones through verizon i could buy (still on the old unlimited plan)
thanks for any help

L1ND said:
had trave mod wifi with motochopper root on my old razr m, turned off the update message, phone was about 6 months old and took a ****
got a replacement phone on the old update (yay!!) and never even thought about it updating because i figured there had to be something out for the new update by now... had the phone for 2 days and woke up the morning after a good drunk (hung over like a mofo) and was trying to send a text when the update popped up and i hit yes.... so 98.30.1.xt907 is what im on now and appears to be an epic fail at this point lol
my bootloader is locked and 4G is the only internet out in my area so im not paying verizon $100 a month for internet again... so my questions.
I dont really need root if i can use mobile hotspot or foxfi or w/e wifi app for free. Id pay for the app if it unlocked the ability to use mobile hotspot...is it possible and is there one out there?
If i cant do it without root is there one out there for the new update (searched this hard far and wide doesnt look good)
If there is no hope of free mobile hotspot on this phone what are a couple newer 4g phones through verizon i could buy (still on the old unlimited plan)
thanks for any help
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Unfortunately, you can't root that system version. There is the entitlement hack for people that are still on the unlimited plan, but I think you need to be rooted to modify the build.prop. With that being said, I'm not sure about all the phones that Verizon offer, but the HD and M were both updated at the same time and that update blocked root. The X can be rooted and you should be able to run the hack on that. However, you'll have to pay full price since you're going to upgrade off contract.

Nexus 5 to 6P on Cricket, hotspot doesn't work

I just upgraded from a Nexus 5 to a 6P. I'm on a Cricket Wireless "Pro" plan. I was able to use my hotspot on the Nexus 5, but when I switched to the 6P, the hotspot doesn't work any longer. I get the authentication message that I need to buy the option, blah, blah.
I tried the tether_entitlement_check_state hack, and that didn't work.
Any clue why this worked on the 5, but not on the 6P? The 5 was on Android 6.0, so it's not the version of Android.
Any help would be awesome. I have a very hard time accepting that I have to pay anything extra to use my LIMITED data the way I want to.
Thanks!

law086 said:
I just upgraded from a Nexus 5 to a 6P. I'm on a Cricket Wireless "Pro" plan. I was able to use my hotspot on the Nexus 5, but when I switched to the 6P, the hotspot doesn't work any longer. I get the authentication message that I need to buy the option, blah, blah.
I tried the tether_entitlement_check_state hack, and that didn't work.
Any clue why this worked on the 5, but not on the 6P? The 5 was on Android 6.0, so it's not the version of Android.
Any help would be awesome. I have a very hard time accepting that I have to pay anything extra to use my LIMITED data the way I want to.
Thanks!
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The 5 didn't check for provisioning.

And why is that? Both devices are running aosp v6,so where is the difference?

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Bump...same situation here, 6p, cricket, need hotspot. Foxfi doesn't work.
No interest in root unless I HAVE to (and prefer not to so I can take ota's in the future).

Same here...
Has anyone found a fix? Does removing the SIM card, doing a factory reset, and then setting up the phone without the SIM card inserted help with this so that it isn't initially provisioned as an AT&T-related device?

Same here..works fine on 5 with 6.0. Not interested in root at this time. Cricket has an app for $10 extra a month. Not worth it. I use tethering very rarely...

I'm in the same situation (cricket pro plan, 5 -> 6p). I called cricket support this evening to ask about adding the tethering option and was told that the Nexus 6P is not a supported hotspot device in their system. He wouldn't add hotspot for me even if I was willing to pay for it.

woodspoon said:
I'm in the same situation (cricket pro plan, 5 -> 6p). I called cricket support this evening to ask about adding the tethering option and was told that the Nexus 6P is not a supported hotspot device in their system. He wouldn't add hotspot for me even if I was willing to pay for it.
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Well a rooted 6p isn't in their system either, did you ask him about that? what are your reservations about rooting at this point?

akenis said:
Well a rooted 6p isn't in their system either, did you ask him about that? what are your reservations about rooting at this point?
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Mainly time. I'm an old with three kids. I was looking forward to having a phone that I didn't have to root. I went back to unrooted for the last year or so of my N5 and was fine with it. Not crazy about the permanent fuse thing either. Not sure why that bothers me though.

woodspoon said:
Mainly time. I'm an old with three kids. I was looking forward to having a phone that I didn't have to root. I went back to unrooted for the last year or so of my N5 and was fine with it. Not crazy about the permanent fuse thing either. Not sure why that bothers me though.
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Fuse doesn't change when unlocking or relocking.

woodspoon said:
Mainly time. I'm an old with three kids. I was looking forward to having a phone that I didn't have to root. I went back to unrooted for the last year or so of my N5 and was fine with it. Not crazy about the permanent fuse thing either. Not sure why that bothers me though.
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Agreed...I flashed stock on my 5 and 7 and mostly happy. Even relocked boatloaders. Got tired of updates I couldn't do and nuisance notifications. Too much time wasted fiddling around. I miss TB and restoring data, but 6.0 backup should be fine once developers get onboard.
Funny that it was primarily wi-fi hotspot that got me started years ago. Then we got it stock, and now its blocked again! Hope we can work something out.

I came from a Note 3 and was able to use hotspot with no problem but experiencing the same thing with authentication problems.
I also tried calling a couple days ago and was told the device isn't eligible.

Ha...looks like 6P does work!! And, I knew there was a reason they gave us such a nice SIM card tool. Although a bit inconvenient, this works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...bscription-t3231596/post63448723#post63448723

akenis said:
Ha...looks like 6P does work!! And, I knew there was a reason they gave us such a nice SIM card tool. Although a bit inconvenient, this works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...bscription-t3231596/post63448723#post63448723
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Wow, works for me too. I think I'll make sure to have a SIM tool handy in a few places and make this my go-to solution for the time being.

Leasing and Rooting/Flashing ROMS

Hey everyone,
So I currently own a S4 on Sprint and it's rooted with a custom ROM and I use the mobile hotspot for my internet at home ( can't get any decent internet in the apartment I live in ). I have been looking into finally upgrading to the S7, but it's a little too pricey to outright buy it so I am looking into leasing it.
I have never leased a phone so I am not sure how it works in regards to rooting, flashing ROMS, and most importantly for me at the moment the mobile hotspot. I have never had an issue so far with getting throttled or been warned about my data usage from Sprint so far, but I'm not sure if their policies change if I start leasing a phone from them. I figure when it comes time to turn my phone back in I could flash it back to stock. I remember though that with KNOX even if you flash back to stock the warranty would still be voided and I'm not sure if that would be a problem when I try to flash back to stock before returning the phone.
Any guidance on the issue would be appreciated.

I also upgraded from a S4. right now i have a S7 that i just got today. flashing and rooting should have no affect except that your warranty will be void. if you really care, then you can always flash stock rom via odin after you download the firmware from SamMobile. my S4 has been rooted and went through like 10 different roms.

If Knox is tripped my understanding is some features won't work. I could see this being problematic upon return. Though if you're careful and don't trip knox as long as you flash back I don't see it would be an issue.

VeriSkye said:
If Knox is tripped my understanding is some features won't work. I could see this being problematic upon return. Though if you're careful and don't trip knox as long as you flash back I don't see it would be an issue.
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Is it possible to not trip Knox these days? If I remember correctly there was a time when there was no way around it.

sj7ftw said:
Is it possible to not trip Knox these days? If I remember correctly there was a time when there was no way around it.
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No, there is no known way not to trip knox unless you have a factory engineering image

Depending on your plan, Hotspot is included if you have one of the gig bucket plans. Use to have to do Hotspot tweaks too,
I went from the 1500 unlimited data, to a 3gig plan and Hotspot is included.
My plan with 2 ezpay s7 phones and 3 gigs is much less than I was paying. Plus I never use more than 3 gigs, usually way less with wifi.

sj7ftw said:
Is it possible to not trip Knox these days? If I remember correctly there was a time when there was no way around it.
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I thought it was. But I've been living in the HTC world for a while so I admittedly haven't kept up like I used to.

I am also leasing my s7 edge.
I dont think there would be an issue root and roming the phone, as long as:
A; you do not call sprint for software issues.
B; if you do, put stock back on the phone before hand.
If you have hardware issues, its OK to call sprint, just dont tell them the phone is rooted. You will have to put the phone back to stock (hopefully knox resets when this happens) to return the phone for hardware replacement.
I've replaced my Samsung phones so many times. I have the monthly insurance.

Thanks for the replies... If anyone does know how to reset Knox/warranty bit when going back to stock let me know. Now to wait for a hotspot mod. I do have GalaxyTools still on my S4. Anyone know if that would work?

There is no way to reset Knox.

sj7ftw said:
Hey everyone,
So I currently own a S4 on Sprint and it's rooted with a custom ROM and I use the mobile hotspot for my internet at home ( can't get any decent internet in the apartment I live in ). I have been looking into finally upgrading to the S7, but it's a little too pricey to outright buy it so I am looking into leasing it.
I have never leased a phone so I am not sure how it works in regards to rooting, flashing ROMS, and most importantly for me at the moment the mobile hotspot. I have never had an issue so far with getting throttled or been warned about my data usage from Sprint so far, but I'm not sure if their policies change if I start leasing a phone from them. I figure when it comes time to turn my phone back in I could flash it back to stock. I remember though that with KNOX even if you flash back to stock the warranty would still be voided and I'm not sure if that would be a problem when I try to flash back to stock before returning the phone.
Any guidance on the issue would be appreciated.
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The S7 in my op is so far above the S4 it is scary. Well worth your lease. Also if at the end of the lease terms you want to buy the phone Sprint has options. I got a loyalty discount on my lease at 50% off. With the buy option at the end leasing the phone I would save around 200$ as opposed to buying it out right.

No way to untrip Knox, and it IS against the terms of your lease, just FYI.

Right now this is all moot. Bootloader is locked. Unfortunately.

All us is locked

Instead of leasing there is the payment to own, this way you are buying it instead. I didn't there was leasing option for the S7 yet.

As far as the payment to own... i dont understand why anyone would want to do that? It seems much better to sign two years and pay $250.00 in stead of paying the full price after payments are said and done. Am i missing something? or i don't see a bigger picture everyone else does.

lost0138 said:
As far as the payment to own... i dont understand why anyone would want to do that? It seems much better to sign two years and pay $250.00 in stead of paying the full price after payments are said and done. Am i missing something? or i don't see a bigger picture everyone else does.
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The service costs more with a two-year contract, so there's that. It doesn't actually work out that you get the phone $500 cheaper. You make up for it in the cost of service.
IMO the Galaxy Forever is the way to go. New phone every 12 months, no need to worry about the battery being unreplaceable, an old Android having little resale value, etc.

lost0138 said:
As far as the payment to own... i dont understand why anyone would want to do that? It seems much better to sign two years and pay $250.00 in stead of paying the full price after payments are said and done. Am i missing something? or i don't see a bigger picture everyone else does.
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The only reason I have considered the leasing option with the payment to own is I got a huge discount through Sprint for being with them for over 10 years. Without that discount the lease option and the payment option are about the same end cost. As far as the 2 year contract, I have not been given that option through Sprint, the only time I see that option is for new customers when I am not signed into my account on the web site.
I am right now on the Galaxy for life program because I have opted for the lease with Sprint. Unless the next Note or Galaxy is a home run and includes a removable battery cover I don't know if I will opt for the upgrade when they come out. I really dig this GS7.

Sign and pass along
https://www.change.org/p/sprint-unl...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

Zer0C0oL said:
The only reason I have considered the leasing option with the payment to own is I got a huge discount through Sprint for being with them for over 10 years. Without that discount the lease option and the payment option are about the same end cost. As far as the 2 year contract, I have not been given that option through Sprint, the only time I see that option is for new customers when I am not signed into my account on the web site.
I am right now on the Galaxy for life program because I have opted for the lease with Sprint. Unless the next Note or Galaxy is a home run and includes a removable battery cover I don't know if I will opt for the upgrade when they come out. I really dig this GS7.
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That's why I did the lease too. I got $10 off a month and I get to upgrade next year. I love to upgrade so it was a no brainer for me.

What happened? Phone out for 6 months+ and barely any root solutions

I just got my S7 Edge and when I was ordering, I didn't even think to look, I made the mistake of assuming there would be some root solution. Other than a long guide which essentially says "good luck" if you are on the latest software version (which I couldn't help because I just got the phone). What happened? I know the bootloader was locked, is that the main culprit here? Did all the modders just switch carriers and devices?
Are the "one-click root" days gone for Samsung devices? Also, can anyone advise an ETA on a root for PJ2? Sprint is charging, get this, $20 for 2 gig hotspot and $50 for 6 gigs...

Best phone I've ever owned. Zero dev support. I accepted it months ago. Root Solutions there but risky. Security just too tight on this one. What a shame too....
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Blakestr said:
I just got my S7 Edge and when I was ordering, I didn't even think to look, I made the mistake of assuming there would be some root solution. Other than a long guide which essentially says "good luck" if you are on the latest software version (which I couldn't help because I just got the phone). What happened? I know the bootloader was locked, is that the main culprit here? Did all the modders just switch carriers and devices?
Are the "one-click root" days gone for Samsung devices? Also, can anyone advise an ETA on a root for PJ2? Sprint is charging, get this, $20 for 2 gig hotspot and $50 for 6 gigs...
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Yea unfortunately i did the same thing! I absolutely love the phone, but without root, for me i am barely able to harness half the power of this beast! I really hope something comes out soon. I was in a similar boat with my s6 edge+ but i at least had moar rom which i LOVED, and miss so much!

Blakestr said:
I just got my S7 Edge and when I was ordering, I didn't even think to look, I made the mistake of assuming there would be some root solution. Other than a long guide which essentially says "good luck" if you are on the latest software version (which I couldn't help because I just got the phone). What happened? I know the bootloader was locked, is that the main culprit here? Did all the modders just switch carriers and devices?
Are the "one-click root" days gone for Samsung devices? Also, can anyone advise an ETA on a root for PJ2? Sprint is charging, get this, $20 for 2 gig hotspot and $50 for 6 gigs...
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Same exact deal for me. I'm very tempted to return the thing. Most of my favorite features and apps require root. Right now i'm debating whether it's worth keeping the phone in the hopes that a root will become available soon or stick with my note 4 and sacrifice newer features and samsung vr.

Need to help a friend update

Hello All,
I used to love being in the root/rom scene a few years ago. Since then, I've been at school and had a kid and don't have time to mess around with my phone like I used to. However, I still have one friend that comes to me for his rooting/romming needs. I believe last year I updated him to Android 6, then put on a custom recovery and rooted it for him. He wanted this so he could have adblock and tether on his grandfathered unlimited plan on Verizon. I know they have unlimited again now, but he doesn't want to get throttled. I remember something about not needing to install Xposed (is that still used?) to get his tethering working as it just worked out of the box somehow.
He called me the other day saying his phone had an update. It turns out it's just the 24.221.4 from a couple months ago. Is it worth it to go through the process of updating for this one?
I appreciate any guidance you fine people may give me.

Tethering works!
Word on the street is that tethering (miraculously) works fine with the stock Rom for all carriers, and I have personally confirmed this with Total Wireless (a Verizon prepaid). As for updating to the newest featureless stock Rom, I didn't bother because I heard that it isn't worth the hassle.

kkeller87 said:
Hello All,
I used to love being in the root/rom scene a few years ago. Since then, I've been at school and had a kid and don't have time to mess around with my phone like I used to. However, I still have one friend that comes to me for his rooting/romming needs. I believe last year I updated him to Android 6, then put on a custom recovery and rooted it for him. He wanted this so he could have adblock and tether on his grandfathered unlimited plan on Verizon. I know they have unlimited again now, but he doesn't want to get throttled. I remember something about not needing to install Xposed (is that still used?) to get his tethering working as it just worked out of the box somehow.
He called me the other day saying his phone had an update. It turns out it's just the 24.221.4 from a couple months ago. Is it worth it to go through the process of updating for this one?
I appreciate any guidance you fine people may give me.
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The update was just a security update with no features added. Worth the hassle.. Not likely unless your friend is notorious for sideloading shady apps or visiting/clicking shady websites/links.

Bill720 said:
Word on the street is that tethering (miraculously) works fine with the stock Rom for all carriers, and I have personally confirmed this with Total Wireless (a Verizon prepaid). As for updating to the newest featureless stock Rom, I didn't bother because I heard that it isn't worth the hassle.
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No, it doesn't... The Moto X honors a carrier's tethering provisioning flag by default, although a simple build.prop change can make the phone ignore the flag in most cases.
I also agree that updating is not worth it in most cases.