After installing January update on my nexus 6p, my phone stuck in bootloop. I approached Huawei service center last Thursday (01/12/2017) for further actions and gave my device for inspection. Today i got my phone back, though i expected a new or refurbished device, i just got my mother board replaced with new IMEI no.
When i contacted Google regarding the issue, the representative asked me to downgrade the OS from 7.1.1 to 6.0.1. Surprisingly my device came with Marshmallow version of android installed as suggested by the Google employee.
I'm a flashaholic kinda person who loves to test different ROMs. Since Marshmallow has many stable/battery efficient ROMs and stable Xposed support, I decided to go with RR 6.0.1 with Xposed and any custom kernel.
Now my concern is to whether update my device to 7.1.1 based custom ROM or stick with MM. I'm also worried to try even MM ROMs as I have just few days left with my device warranty, I'm like cat on the wall thinking to flash and try ROMs or stick to stock RR until Google rolls out fix for the mysterious bootloop issue.
NOTE: I have searched for similar thread for answers but couldn't find one. So kindly navigate me to the respective thread if the issue is already under discussion.
jagadeeshkumar5793 said:
....Now my concern is to whether update my device to 7.1.1 based custom ROM or stick with MM. I'm also worried to try even MM ROMs as I have just few days left with my device warranty, I'm like cat on the wall thinking to flash and try ROMs or stick to stock RR until Google rolls out fix for the mysterious bootloop issue. [/B]
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There are multiple instances/threads with MM devices bootlooping- both stock unrooted and custom roms. So far there is no link whatsoever to N, but quite a few people sitting on MM waiting for the miracle update to come down from Mt. Olympus. Don't get me wrong... there are a couple of valid reasons for some to stay with MM for the time being (eg. Xposed support), but IMO hard bricking or bootlooping are not valid reasons to fear updating to N.
jagadeeshkumar5793 said:
After installing January update on my nexus 6p, my phone stuck in bootloop. I approached Huawei service center last Thursday (01/12/2017) for further actions and gave my device for inspection. Today i got my phone back, though i expected a new or refurbished device, i just got my mother board replaced with new IMEI no.
When i contacted Google regarding the issue, the representative asked me to downgrade the OS from 7.1.1 to 6.0.1. Surprisingly my device came with Marshmallow version of android installed as suggested by the Google employee.
I'm a flashaholic kinda person who loves to test different ROMs. Since Marshmallow has many stable/battery efficient ROMs and stable Xposed support, I decided to go with RR 6.0.1 with Xposed and any custom kernel.
Now my concern is to whether update my device to 7.1.1 based custom ROM or stick with MM. I'm also worried to try even MM ROMs as I have just few days left with my device warranty, I'm like cat on the wall thinking to flash and try ROMs or stick to stock RR until Google rolls out fix for the mysterious bootloop issue.
NOTE: I have searched for similar thread for answers but couldn't find one. So kindly navigate me to the respective thread if the issue is already under discussion.
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Did the Google rep say why to downgrade from Nougat to Marshmallow? I've never heard Google admit that Nougat causes boot loop problems so it seems like a strange thing for a Google rep to say.
The Google rep admitted that they have quite a few customers affected after the recent security patch update and he also stated that their engineers are working closely with OEM in fixing the issue permanently.
And regarding the downgrade to MM, the employee said that this issue is only after Nougat update and also said that not all the devices are affected but quite more devices which are updated to Nougat. So the suggestion to downgrade is for temporary fix till Google rolls out the miracle update.
@v12xke - Google did admit that the issue is received at their end and they are being fixed in a reddit thread.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus/comments/4zhx53/never_ending_boot_loop_with_android_7_nougat/d7ppndx/
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The Google rep admitted that they have quite a few customers affected after the recent security patch update and he also stated that their engineers are working closely with OEM in fixing the issue permanently.
And regarding the downgrade to MM, the employee said that this issue is only after Nougat update and also said that not all the devices are affected but quite more devices which are updated to Nougat. So the suggestion to downgrade is for temporary fix till Google rolls out the miracle update.
@v12xke - Google did admit that the issue is received at their end and they are being fixed in a reddit thread.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus/comments/4zhx53/never_ending_boot_loop_with_android_7_nougat/d7ppndx/
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I read the link you provided before. In it Google says it's strictly a hardware issue, which is what they've been insisting all the time. That's why the Google employee asking you to downgrade to Marshmellow struck me as being strange.
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I read the link you provided before. In it Google says it's strictly a hardware issue, which is what they've been insisting all the time. That's why the Google employee asking you to downgrade to Marshmellow struck me as being strange.
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Yes, nougat badly does something to hardware especially motherboard, so my device's motherboard got replaced with new IMEI no. and I stick with RR MM rom with xposed and it is working great so far. Hope Google rolls out the miracle updatennsoon for the bootloop issue and fix it permanently.
Mine died today stuck at google screen 1 month out of warranty and never rooted. I'm basically out 500 bucks after one year. Unless they will fix it for a fee.
Contact them anyway. Tell them it is the problem that hundreds of people all over the internet are having. There are many reports that they are working with people.
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jagadeeshkumar5793 said:
Yes, nougat badly does something to hardware especially motherboard, so my device's motherboard got replaced with new IMEI no. and I stick with RR MM rom with xposed and it is working great so far. Hope Google rolls out the miracle updatennsoon for the bootloop issue and fix it permanently.
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There's a rumor around that if you downgrade your N6P to KitKat and stay there the problem will never appear again. KitKat does something really good to the hardware, especially the motherboard. :good:
kenhicg said:
Mine died today stuck at google screen 1 month out of warranty and never rooted. I'm basically out 500 bucks after one year. Unless they will fix it for a fee.
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You can probably contact the service center and get a replacement if you bought from Google play store coz in India the service is undertaken by Huawei and not Google. When I had a chat with Google rep he sounded like the faulty device can be replaced freely even if out of warranty. And surprisingly mine was only like oddly 15 days warranty left when i gave my mobile to service center but now when i check the warranty, they have extended will April 21, 2017.
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Contact them anyway. Tell them it is the problem that hundreds of people all over the internet are having. There are many reports that they are working with people.
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You are right. Google sounded like the issue is taken care freely without cost even if the handset is out of warranty. When I spoke with the Google representative, I asked him why the customers has to pay money even if the handset is out of warranty when the issue is from manufacturer side and not the customer side. He stated and clearly explained that the issue is occurring only after the update and many devices are affected, but the customer also have to understand that not all the devices are affected by the update but specific handsets only. So Google is working closely with Huawei to fix the issue and he also stated that a team is working specifically for this issue.
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You are right. Google sounded like the issue is taken care freely without cost even if the handset is out of warranty. When I spoke with the Google representative, I asked him why the customers has to pay money even if the handset is out of warranty when the issue is from manufacturer side and not the customer side. He stated and clearly explained that the issue is occurring only after the update and many devices are affected, but the customer also have to understand that not all the devices are affected by the update but specific handsets only. So Google is working closely with Huawei to fix the issue and he also stated that a team is working specifically for this issue.
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bumping this up..
any updates regarding this issue ?
i sent my phone to the huawei service centre here, they gave me an estimate of almost 400 USD for replacement of the motherboard (im out of warranty), which is crazy !
I can still access my bootloader and recovery (both stock and twrp, if needed), so ive hope that maybe i can fix this problem myself. Or maybe i mightve to just replace the motherboard myself.
My 6P died today. NitrogenOS, same issue.
I have quite a bit of data from the last time I backed up, that is on this phone. The data loss concerns me a lot more than the phone. Is there any way to recover it?
And no, I can't boot into recovery. Only fastboot.
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My 6P died today. NitrogenOS, same issue.
I have quite a bit of data from the last time I backed up, that is on this phone. The data loss concerns me a lot more than the phone. Is there any way to recover it?
And no, I can't boot into recovery. Only fastboot.
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I'm my experience and probably hundreds more by now, no recovery access indicates your done. No way to recover your data. Sorry...
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greydelta38 said:
My 6P died today. NitrogenOS, same issue.
I have quite a bit of data from the last time I backed up, that is on this phone. The data loss concerns me a lot more than the phone. Is there any way to recover it?
And no, I can't boot into recovery. Only fastboot.
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I have fixed a handful of G4's bootloops(very, very comnon) by reflowing the processor and northbridge ram. You can youtube G4 bootloop fix. The solder underneath becomes weak and cracks, same thing that causes red ring of death on 360 and yellow light of death on ps3, the dreaded lead free solder that the EPA mandates manufactures use. Unfortunately reflowing is usually a temporary fix, but at least long enough to get your data back.
I suspect since the 810 runs even hotter than the 808 in the G4, that the same thing is happening here. Plus Huawei used terrible thermal compound to dissipate the heat. I have yet to get my hands on a 6p to test my theory on, and hopefully I won't have to do it to mine. If you're tech savvy or know someone who is it might be worth a shot at saving your data. Or PM me and I'll give it a shot.
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I have fixed a handful of G4's bootloops(very, very comnon) by reflowing the processor and northbridge ram. You can youtube G4 bootloop fix. The solder underneath becomes weak and cracks, same thing that causes red ring of death on 360 and yellow light of death on ps3, the dreaded lead free solder that the EPA mandates manufactures use. Unfortunately reflowing is usually a temporary fix, but at least long enough to get your data back.
I suspect since the 810 runs even hotter than the 808 in the G4, that the same thing is happening here. Plus Huawei used terrible thermal compound to dissipate the heat. I have yet to get my hands on a 6p to test my theory on, and hopefully I won't have to do it to mine. If you're tech savvy or know someone who is it might be worth a shot at saving your data. Or PM me and I'll give it a shot.
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I appreciate the reply, I'll look into it for sure.
It'll be interesting to see what Google and Huawei say about this in the near future, now that this is becoming a more widespread issue. I went out and bought a G6 today, I'm a little afraid to spend money on the Pixel after reading about Google practically denying the problem exists with the 6p and their latest update. Time will tell, I suppose.
Just got mine back last week, same issue. Motherboard replaced under warranty. Phone was 11 months old hope new will last longer. No problems with the the being rooted
Mine just went to hell. I've seen a friends 6P go through bootloop, tried all sorts of stuff but couldn't help. He sent his in to Huawei and replaced.
I have been on 7.1.1 for a while, but all of a sudden just crapped out. 6 Days out of the Huawei extended warranty and they want $160 to swap.
Hesitant to drop $160, even $100 to replace and possibly face the same issue later on.
I turn it on once in a while and get teased by the damn phone...at one point it went all the way to the setup screen, then restarted.
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Does anyone have any experience with Google or Huawei actually replacing/repairing their Nexus 6P (google store purchased) that is just a single month out of warranty? Google won't help despite the fact I am in a hurricane ravaged area of FL and the Hurricane hit here on the 11th, mine is out of warrant as of the 12th and I had no power for 9 days and up until the 13th my 6P never had an issue, now it's bootloop city and freezing constantly.
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Not anymore. They've reviewed their policy on out of warranty devices and made a press release or statement that RMA's have been stopped for out of warranty devices. SOL. Hello new phone.
Jessooca said:
Does anyone have any experience with Google or Huawei actually replacing/repairing their Nexus 6P (google store purchased) that is just a single month out of warranty? Google won't help despite the fact I am in a hurricane ravaged area of FL and the Hurricane hit here on the 11th, mine is out of warrant as of the 12th and I had no power for 9 days and up until the 13th my 6P never had an issue, now it's bootloop city and freezing constantly.
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I also have a 6p purchased through the Google store. I paid extra for Nexus protect. I was able to RMA my phone due to the battery issues of the 6p. Google was extremely easy to deal with and hooked me up with a new pixel XL.
If I were you I'd probably look 2nd generation of Pixels
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They had a bug to fix finally...
Lenovorola mentioned this last month. Is your source different from mine (Lenovorola Germany)?
Might be AP's post - http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...7-1-1-update-will-come-nexus-6-early-january/ - they sent in a query to Google, and Google's response indicated "early Jan"
Was there ever any doubt? The Nexus 6 will get every Nougat release (7.1.1, 7.1.2, etc.). It will not, however, receive Android O.
@Candy[MAN]: It will be at Google's discretion as to whether we get an official upgrade to Android 8.0 or not. But even if we don't, ROM developers will be building from source for years to come. One way or another, this device will have Android 8.0 on it.
Never underestimate power of Nexus devices.
too little, too late. personally the only reason i bought a Nexus was to have the latest android version ALWAYS. and google has disappointed.
though im glad for drivers being available to public so we can have an arsenal of stable and functional ROMs being developed by other devs.
currently running PureNexus 7.1.1 with the middle finger help up facing google.
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too little, too late. personally the only reason i bought a Nexus was to have the latest android version ALWAYS. and google has disappointed.
though im glad for drivers being available to public so we can have an arsenal of stable and functional ROMs being developed by other devs.
currently running PureNexus 7.1.1 with the middle finger help up facing google.
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You have the ability. The nexus line was never meant for the average person. If you cant build from source then a nexus is beyond you
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@Candy[MAN]: It will be at Google's discretion as to whether we get an official upgrade to Android 8.0 or not. But even if we don't, ROM developers will be building from source for years to come. One way or another, this device will have Android 8.0 on it.
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Exactly!! :highfive:
January images posted for every device except Nexus 6.
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You have the ability. The nexus line was never meant for the average person. If you cant build from source then a nexus is beyond you
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Tsk tsk. There's no room for accusations like that here. The reason I got a Nexus 6 was so that I'd have the latest stock OS without having to flash some buggy (yes, they are buggy and there are always room for screwups) ROM and worry about having an operable phone. Google has done a fine job of providing a stable experience on great hardware at low cost. This phone has been out for 2 years now. Why they can't get these Nougat updates out on time is beyond me. "Well it's the only 32-bit Nexus left" is not an excuse. Android has been built on 32-bit up until the past year or two, and 64-bit phones only became "good" in the past year. Whether the fault lies with Lenovo/Motorola or with Google, the fact is that we just don't have 7.1.x yet, and that's just an embarrassment on whoever's fault that is.
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Tsk tsk. There's no room for accusations like that here. The reason I got a Nexus 6 was so that I'd have the latest stock OS without having to flash some buggy (yes, they are buggy and there are always room for screwups) ROM and worry about having an operable phone. Google has done a fine job of providing a stable experience on great hardware at low cost. This phone has been out for 2 years now. Why they can't get these Nougat updates out on time is beyond me. "Well it's the only 32-bit Nexus left" is not an excuse. Android has been built on 32-bit up until the past year or two, and 64-bit phones only became "good" in the past year. Whether the fault lies with Lenovo/Motorola or with Google, the fact is that we just don't have 7.1.x yet, and that's just an embarrassment on whoever's fault that is.
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Well considering that what ever Google pushes can be made by syncing aosp, build it, flash it and gapps and you have the same thing Google pushed out.
The n6 is eol pretty much. So it is not a surprise that it is last.
Also yes 64 bit just started being the norm. Which means they have been working on it for all east 2 years. People seem to forget that when a device is released the oem already started work on the next device a few months prior. So in sense the brand new device you just got is already outdated as far as the maker is concerned.
Also considering that the stock update issued from Google has bricked many devices that did get it. Then by all means be in a rush.
I have been on a bugless 7.1.1 room now for weeks if not months.
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Well considering that what ever Google pushes can be made by syncing aosp, build it, flash it and gapps and you have the same thing Google pushed out.
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I have been on a bugless 7.1.1 room now for weeks if not months.
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Some weeks ago when i flashed PN 7.1.1, as an example, i was stuck outside of home in need of creating an hotspot and not being able to do it kicking out an error (lucky me carrying more than one phone at a time). I wouldn't call that bugless, also the battery life is worse and it tends to lag more with time.
Custom roms are nice as they are, without proper blobs there will always be "bugs", "drains", "hacks" to make it work. It's funny flashing different roms to pass time but in the end i always return to stock with a custom kernel because everything works as it should.
Google spits out bull**** every time an update is released, i would prefer them saying they would stop supporting the device than spiting out lies as they always do lately. Good guy croogle is no more.
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Some weeks ago when i flashed PN 7.1.1, as an example, i was stuck outside of home in need of creating an hotspot and not being able to do it kicking out an error. I wouldn't call that bugless, also the battery life is worse and it tends to lag more with time.
Custom roms are nice as they are, without proper blobs there will always be "bugs", "drains", "hacks" to make it work. It's funny flashing different roms to pass time but in the end i always return to stock with a custom kernel because everything works as it should.
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Can't say anything about pure nexus as I have never used it nor will I.
Of course there will always be hacks but let me let you in on something. Considering that the 7.1.1 update was made for devices with dual partitions, for them to get it to work on the older devices, n6, n6p and 5x there will be hacks to make it work directly from Google. Most likely what caused a bunch of bricks from Google ota. There was a commit just yesterday that was supposed to fix the issue a second time.
No OS is perfect. Not custom or official. They all have bugs.
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Well considering that what ever Google pushes can be made by syncing aosp, build it, flash it and gapps and you have the same thing Google pushed out.
The n6 is eol pretty much. So it is not a surprise that it is last.
Also yes 64 bit just started being the norm. Which means they have been working on it for all east 2 years. People seem to forget that when a device is released the oem already started work on the next device a few months prior. So in sense the brand new device you just got is already outdated as far as the maker is concerned.
Also considering that the stock update issued from Google has bricked many devices that did get it. Then by all means be in a rush.
I have been on a bugless 7.1.1 room now for weeks if not months.
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But that's the thing, it's not technically 7.1.1 without the proper driver blobs from Lenovo/Motorola, and obviously we don't have those without the official 7.1.1 update. You may have the 7.1.1 OS, but until the official 7.1.1 is released for Nexus 6, the hardware won't be any more stable than the latest official nougat we have.
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But that's the thing, it's not technically 7.1.1 without the proper driver blobs from Lenovo/Motorola, and obviously we don't have those without the official 7.1.1 update. You may have the 7.1.1 OS, but until the official 7.1.1 is released for Nexus 6, the hardware won't be any more stable than the latest official nougat we have.
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Assuming that there are significant changes in the drivers and vendor blobs from 7.0 official. Didn't seem to be from 7.0 to 7.1.
Funny we saw this same kind of bullkaka (lies) that google would keep updating our Nexus too. And we got nougat, like 3 or 4 months after they promised it. I ran the beta for a long time. Now we thought it would be 7.1.1 like the other Nexus devices that came out after ours. And not even a January patch yet. It does not take a genius to figure out that they are trying to get us to upgrade the device. I refuse to give in. I will just keep the November build and use a custom kernel and doubt I am missing any swell things.
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Google spits out bull**** every time an update is released, i would prefer them saying they would stop supporting the device than spiting out lies as they always do lately. Good guy croogle is no more.
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I just vented in the 9 forum as well, but F google here too. They suckered me in with the nexus 5 about 4 years ago as bait, great inexpensive phone I enjoyed using. It also opened up my world to sites like XDA and customizing android. I was hooked right away. So I even upgraded to the 6 and 9 when they came out expecting the same kind of experience . But now looking back I have had lie to myself about just how good the experience has been.
The 5x and 6p gave me no reason to upgrade, I was excited for the pixel line but Google seems to be taking steps to lock it all down from now on.... sooo, I'm out !
Can you point me in the direction of the nearest apple store?
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Can you point me in the direction of the nearest apple store?
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First left, second right and then its on the left side of the road.
hey guys, is it possibile that the akku and bootloop bugs from the n6p also can happen to n6??
So i was on lenovo forums and found this (its for 1575 btw):
"Ok, so I've seen all the posts and comments. *I know Moto / Lenovo does not comment on Impending updates.
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However.
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When I called Moto Support Yesterday, I was told by two different reps that this phone's update schedule has changed, and it will no longer be recieving 7.0, or any further updates above 6.01, other than google supplied security updates.
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Even funnier, when I asked how I was supposed to get my promised update, the rep told me to Unlock my bootloader and "Google for a nougat update, Just be carefull of hacked versions" (NOT Kidding)
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When I asked for an ID or other information so I could track the seconnd call, I recieved reference number*170605-001691.
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What u guys think?
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Regular Motorola Lenovo support people have no idea and are not in the loop on updates. That is why if and when you are chosen for beta test you are told not to call them.
Since the main Nougat thread was needlessly closed, I haven't been able to keep track: has 7.0 rolled out for the XT1572 everywhere (i.e., across all of Europe) or are some major countries still waiting?
If it's rolled out everywhere else, there's absolutely no reason to think the XT1575 will ever receive Nougat. Why would there be a multi-week or multi-month gap for a device that's essentially identical? It probably has to do with CDMA issues and/or carriers demanding $$ for an approval process before they allow Nougat-ified 1575's on their network.
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Since the main Nougat thread was needlessly closed, I haven't been able to keep track: has 7.0 rolled out for the XT1572 everywhere (i.e., across all of Europe) or are some major countries still waiting?
If it's rolled out everywhere else, there's absolutely no reason to think the XT1575 will ever receive Nougat. Why would there be a multi-week or multi-month gap for a device that's essentially identical? It probably has to do with CDMA issues and/or carriers demanding $$ for an approval process before they allow Nougat-ified 1575's on their network.
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The main thread was closed from all of the arguing and was intended to keep track of the XT1575 update. Since nothing new was happening for months, it only made sense to lock it to save the admins from getting another headache from cleaning the thread again. It would be nice to have a good place to see where else the XT1572's have been getting updates though
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Since the main Nougat thread was needlessly closed, I haven't been able to keep track: has 7.0 rolled out for the XT1572 everywhere (i.e., across all of Europe) or are some major countries still waiting?
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XT1570 Style (China)
Still on Lollipop, no updates expected
XT1572 Style
UK - Not yet
EU - Most (supposedly not all variants yet)
Asia - Yes
Latin America - Yes
XT1575 Pure
North America - Not yet
And the main Nougat thread needed to be closed, it had to be cleaned by Mods several times a week because of constant arguing, bickering, whining, and needless Moto bashing that even got rather hostile at times. Leave to a few to ruin it for everyone.
One of Motorola forum administration said, that rep provided a wrong information, and they "recruite" him better. No official info about cancellation of update was provided, so I think we have a small hope.
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One of Motorola forum administration said, that rep provided a wrong information, and they "recruite" him better. No official info about cancellation of update was provided, so I think we have a small hope.
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Seriously? We will get the update... The last "beta" was just sent to testers only a few weeks ago (early August I believe) because they were still having issues with Nougat on the XT1575, and once it has been approved and found to be stable it is usually rolled within 30 days.
The mentioned "obsolete" and "we are not getting an update per customer service" is crap, and has been CLEARLY disproved on Moto's official forums... did a rep say that? Apparently they did, but they were flat out wrong... they did not have the knowledge or the authority to do so.
TBH, this update for the Pure has been a PR nightmare for Moto... they don't talk about it (which is not new, Moto has been tight lipped about software updates since before Google bought them) and it is taking a ridiculously long time to get a stable ROM, the beta testers have had significant issues with several builds, even hard brick issues early on when performing a factory reset.
Although I get people's frustration, how do you think people would feel if they they got an update, then did a factory reset for whatever reason, and the device bricked because of it?
I know it sucks... but seriously what is it going to do for you? Other than a few gimmicks that Nougat has that Marshmallow does not, the update does NOTHING for this device, no new camera API, no Vulcan support, no VoLTE, no Pixel Launcher, not even updated Moto apps. You get multi-window which honestly barely has a usable function, and clear all in recents, which is also not really important, and Google Allo added at the system level (yeah, OK, nobody uses it I know).
Patience, it will come when it's ready... I honestly don't care anymore if it comes or not because by the end of the year I will be moving on to something else since this one will be pushing 20 months for me and it is just time to move on.
I'm on an XT1572 Style, which I purchased online -- I'm guessing diverted from EU markets, since the update announcements were always in French. Nougat 7.0 has made this phone unbearable to use -- 1-3sec lags on most interface interactions, and up to 5 seconds when it feels like it. I've followed the advice from Moto support to fix it, including a hard factory reset. I agree with the post above that 7.0 adds very little value to the phone. I'm angry enough to look into a consumer law action against Motorola for the replacement value. And there is no way in hell I will be buying another Moto device -- looking hard at the OnePlus 3T.
Just received nougat 7.0 this morning for my moto x pure edition. Installed the software in 30 min. Noticed the app files are larger. Everything runs smoothly so far. The phone is a XT1575 32GB. It was a very long wait. Located in Coeur D Alene, ID. Jerry Purchased from Best Buy, unlocked, Retail
I have no idea why Motorola doesn't give us any updates my device is a month old and still stuck on January security update absolutely stunned! Anyone have anything to say please get your frustration out here.
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I have no idea why Motorola doesn't give us any updates my device is a month old and still stuck on January security update absolutely stunned! Anyone have anything to say please get your frustration out here.
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Welcome to Lenovo's Motorola!
Like it or not, Lenovo is horrible with updates, probably one of the worst of the "big" name brands in the last 18-24 months.
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I have no idea why Motorola doesn't give us any updates my device is a month old and still stuck on January security update absolutely stunned! Anyone have anything to say please get your frustration out here.
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Thats nowt, my daughters Moto G4 has just had a repair while still in its first year of warranty and they aren't even updating that to Oreo and there is no reason they cant other than to try to get you to buy a new phone from there overly bloated product line up. Google should force makers to provide updates for 18 months after a product goes EOL.
Worst thing Google did was to sell the Motorola brand to Lenovo, great handsets but shocking support these days.
This is exactly why mine is up for sale now. Needed an ugent replacement after my NExus 5x did it's stuff. As a phone it does what it should (apart from compass!!!!! I mean...why????) anyway, I now have a Wileyfox which doesnt feel as solid but is up to date and a damn sight more hackable. Shows a desperate lack of understanding of Android users from Lenovo / Motorola. We tend to be fickle and need either updating or letting us hack the bugger.
Sad really. Still wont go over to the dark side though
FYI, I used the Toolkit you can find on XDA to update to the latest version for potter found on androidfilehost.
divvykev said:
This is exactly why mine is up for sale now. Needed an ugent replacement after my NExus 5x did it's stuff. As a phone it does what it should (apart from compass!!!!! I mean...why????) anyway, I now have a Wileyfox which doesnt feel as solid but is up to date and a damn sight more hackable. Shows a desperate lack of understanding of Android users from Lenovo / Motorola. We tend to be fickle and need either updating or letting us hack the bugger.
Sad really. Still wont go over to the dark side though
FYI, I used the Toolkit you can find on XDA to update to the latest version for potter found on androidfilehost.
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What is the build number tho am not familiar with any updates for retail gb?
skooter32 said:
What is the build number tho am not familiar with any updates for retail gb?
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This is the one I installed using the toolkit.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=889764386195927815
Hello,
Don't know if it is still necessary but.. A petition for an upgrade of android 7 to our G4 H815 International version.
Android 7 came out during the 2 years of maintenance of the G4.. so... LG HAS the obligation to roll out this version to every G4 version.
change.org/p/lg-electronics-android-7-for-lg-g4-h815
Djdjo59 said:
Hello,
Don't know if it is still necessary but.. A petition for an upgrade of android 7 to our G4 H815 International version.
Android 7 came out during the 2 years of maintenance of the G4.. so... LG HAS the obligation to roll out this version to every G4 version.
change.org/p/lg-electronics-android-7-for-lg-g4-h815
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I'm not trying to hate but... I've never experienced that a manufacturer took a petition for a software update/upgrade serious in any way. I've seen more than just a couple of those kind of petitions. It's pointless, it won't change anything even if it get's signed a thousand times.
Just install the "beta" version of Nougat. I've had it for over a month now and haven't noticed any setbacks. Well, other than a little screen burn, but I'm not sure if it's the Nougat or phone that's getting old. No random restarts, no FCs, nothing...Just smooth sailing. LG is not known for its good software support, so I wouldn't hold my breath about official Nougat anymore. I guess that ship has already sailed.
Mr.FREE_Bird said:
I'm not trying to hate but... I've never experienced that a manufacturer took a petition for a software update/upgrade serious in any way. I've seen more than just a couple of those kind of petitions. It's pointless, it won't change anything even if it get's signed a thousand times.
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I know... but without a try.. we can't know if it would change something... and personally, I'm not enough good in Android things to install TWRP¨(or something..) to install the v29a (I did unlock my nexus 4 to install ROM, don't know how, I broke it... like.. really: bootloop and can't do anything)
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I know... but without a try.. we can't know if it would change something... and personally, I'm not enough good in Android things to install TWRP¨(or something..) to install the v29a (I did unlock my nexus 4 to install ROM, don't know how, I broke it... like.. really: bootloop and can't do anything)
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I've LG G4 H818P. There is a high risk of root and unlocking the device due to the warranty on the device. Especially when it comes to a device such as the LG G4 that is largely prone to bootloop.
sbasil said:
Just install the "beta" version of Nougat. I've had it for over a month now and haven't noticed any setbacks. Well, other than a little screen burn, but I'm not sure if it's the Nougat or phone that's getting old. No random restarts, no FCs, nothing...Just smooth sailing. LG is not known for its good software support, so I wouldn't hold my breath about official Nougat anymore. I guess that ship has already sailed.
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Well, the bad thing about this beta is that it is vulnerable to the recent exploits in Android as the security patch of this rom is from June 2017. So it is vulnerable to Blueborne bluetooth exploit and KRACK wifi exploit.
ZmisiS said:
I've LG G4 H818P. There is a high risk of root and unlocking the device due to the warranty on the device. Especially when it comes to a device such as the LG G4 that is largely prone to bootloop.
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Yours can't be even unlocked so don't worry
tulen_kobi said:
Well, the bad thing about this beta is that it is vulnerable to the recent exploits in Android as the security patch of this rom is from June 2017. So it is vulnerable to Blueborne bluetooth exploit and KRACK wifi exploit.
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I never cared about security lol. June 2017 is last update for G4. There won't be any more updates.
Sent from Galaxy Tab A10 with 7300 battery ))
Minto107 said:
Yours can't be even unlocked so don't worry I never cared about security lol. June 2017 is last update for G4. There won't be any more updates.
Sent from Galaxy Tab A10 with 7300 battery ))
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I do care, that is why I am on AOSCP.
only way to get noticed would be to ask korean LG or at twitter LG ..
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Minto107 said:
Yours can't be even unlocked so don't worry I never cared about security lol. June 2017 is last update for G4. There won't be any more updates.
Sent from Galaxy Tab A10 with 7300 battery ))
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same screw security LOL
Just vote with your wallet.
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Just vote with your wallet.
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By not buying LG again? Okay, so which manufacturer will give you updates for a long period of time?
Maybe if some company would officially support Lineageos on their device.
cRaZy-bisCuiT said:
By not buying LG again? Okay, so which manufacturer will give you updates for a long period of time?
Maybe if some company would officially support Lineageos on their device.
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I haven't said that. I just meant to say that if the next wave of LG "flagships" have poor sales, maybe they will eventually do something about it.
Maybe they improve on their support, or on their quality control, I don't know.
In the short run, they will probably just ignore os.
But in the long run, if the sales figures go down and the number of support calls and/or device recalls go up maybe, just maybe, they will do something about it.
Who knows, maybe I will buy another LG product/phone if the quality and support of their devices will improve. But as it now stands, they are going down fast.
The latest sales figures already posted here are self explanatory.
LG is a bad smartphone manufacturer - majority of their recent phones have been plagued with issues (some serious some not so much)
no point in petitions cause they will ignore them, and even if they don't and actually release Android 7.0 for G4, thats still a year old OS which LG will leave at version 7.0..
just buy a smartphone that is easy to root (oneplus 5?) and go with lineage OS or something similar that gets updated on a daily basis
LG is **** tier and both their hardware and software suck
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LG is a bad smartphone manufacturer - majority of their recent phones have been plagued with issues (some serious some not so much)
no point in petitions cause they will ignore them, and even if they don't and actually release Android 7.0 for G4, thats still a year old OS which LG will leave at version 7.0..
just buy a smartphone that is easy to root (oneplus 5?) and go with lineage OS or something similar that gets updated on a daily basis
LG is **** tier and both their hardware and software suck
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I agree for the version, but not for root.
I tried with my nexus 4, I scre** it up. totally. And reading articles telling you that you have a lot of manipulations to root etc, no thanks... Except if you have a software that you install normally and boum... rooted.
I will see if the V30 will be released with oreo version. Which i doubt....
Just saw a Reddit post that mentioned that Oreo is currently being rolled out for the Moto G5! I wonder if that means that Oreo for our devices is right around the corner?
It Will be great! :laugh:
Link, bro?
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Link, bro?
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https://www.xda-developers.com/motorola-moto-g5-plus-android-8-1-oreo-soak/
Hmm, not sure - the roll out for both G5S plus and G5 Plus Oreo have both been soak tests so far. I've not seen a mention of a general release so far.
It could be that Motorola are working on the Oreo update for our devices, I imagine we're not the highest priority at the moment, since we already had our major update. Still, let's see what happens.
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... since we already had our major update. ...
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NO! We didn't. When I bought the device, it was mentioned in all promotional material that we will get guaranteed Android N and O updates. Though, there was no time frame mentioned, but this is ridiculous that we have to wait so long. I'm never gonna recommend a Moto device again, just because of updates, which was the USP for recommendations.
I am not sure when will Motorola ever speak about G4(+) as in their Oreo upgrade plan this device was missing at first. Then on reddit people made posts with promo materials showing promises and they just included the device in their list I believe several months ago. So, they never intended to upgrade it, and who knows they ever will.
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NO! We didn't. When I bought the device, it was mentioned in all promotional material that we will get guaranteed Android N and O updates. Though, there was no time frame mentioned, but this is ridiculous that we have to wait so long. I'm never gonna recommend a Moto device again, just because of updates, which was the USP for recommendations.
I am not sure when will Motorola ever speak about G4(+) as in their Oreo upgrade plan this device was missing at first. Then on reddit people made posts with promo materials showing promises and they just included the device in their list I believe several months ago. So, they never intended to upgrade it, and who knows they ever will.
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The major update was nougat that this device received already(echo92 is correct). At the beginning it was shipped with marshmallow. Seems you bought the device while those promo materials were discussed around the world
You'll find already a lot of threads in this device forum discussing the Oreo topic.
Edit: something to read
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/motorola-promised-oreo-build-t3802976
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-getting-android-o-t3576948/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/oreo-g4-plus-t3673163
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/android-oreo-8-0-coming-to-motorola-t3660249
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The major update was nougat that this device received already(echo92 is correct). At the beginning it was shipped with marshmallow. Seems you bought the device while those promo materials were discussed around the world
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This would be correct for any vendor that promises one major upgrade and had a history of doing so. But, Motorola was choice of many due to consistent security updates and at least 2 major upgrades, and not just that, they actually said that. So, you are right they gave one major update out of promised 2, but I didn't mean that I bought the device with Nougat.
My purchase date was 20-May-2016 which was the Amazon-exclusive launch date in India and got it in my hand on 21-May-2016. I have the device with one of my family members now as I upgraded to a different device.
Luring the updates and making customer buy due to that reason and denying or delaying later is not done. We don't have very strict consumer protection law here, otherwise there definitely would have been an update
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NO! We didn't. When I bought the device, it was mentioned in all promotional material that we will get guaranteed Android N and O updates. Though, there was no time frame mentioned, but this is ridiculous that we have to wait so long. I'm never gonna recommend a Moto device again, just because of updates, which was the USP for recommendations.
I am not sure when will Motorola ever speak about G4(+) as in their Oreo upgrade plan this device was missing at first. Then on reddit people made posts with promo materials showing promises and they just included the device in their list I believe several months ago. So, they never intended to upgrade it, and who knows they ever will.
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Nokia all the way. Really, they have very good phones, decently priced with the majority of them running Android One. If my G4 Plus were to die now, I'd probably get a Nokia 7 Plus or a 6.1.
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Nokia all the way. Really, they have very good phones, decently priced with the majority of them running Android One. If my G4 Plus were to die now, I'd probably get a Nokia 7 Plus or a 6.1.
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Nokia do seem to be a good choice, one of the things I'm not keen on is their lack of an official bootloader unlock program. Granted, you can pay for an unlock key (to whom?) and the increasing security measures (e.g. Safetynet) are making unlocking more of a hassle, just at the moment there's not much support for custom ROMs or TWRP.