Hello! Is there a possibility to use NFC on j500?
I have compatible battery.
NFC is only present on some models, if your device doesn't have it there's no way to use it.
NFC is part of hardware, cant be installed with software.
broucker said:
Hello! Is there a possibility to use NFC on j500?
I have compatible battery.
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What J5 model do you have? If you have an FN i think you are good. I don't think F has NFC, trading that feature for DualSIM and I dunno about other models..
It's a hardware only thing. Can't change it via software
Amarius1 said:
What J5 model do you have? If you have an FN i think you are good. I don't think F has NFC, trading that feature for DualSIM and I dunno about other models..
It's a hardware only thing. Can't change it via software
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J500F
but I have a spare battery that has NFC.
broucker said:
J500F
but I have a spare battery that has NFC.
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Oh .. as far as I know battery doesn't matter
Most of the j5 modals are having NFC . S bike mode is Based on NFC .
broucker said:
J500F
but I have a spare battery that has NFC.
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NFC is a black thing attached to the back cover of the phone, battery doesent matter also phone must have NFC compatibility
Wizardlysense said:
NFC is a black thing attached to the back cover of the phone, battery doesent matter also phone must have NFC compatibility
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I have this black thing on my back cover but i have a J500f and it doesnt have nfc
J500FN is only model compatible with the nfc.
I am not sure if you can use nfc with usb accessories and custom rom for fn.
[email protected]@!3Z said:
I have this black thing on my back cover but i have a J500f and it doesnt have nfc
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You can't trust all the incults here
I uninstalled nfc since i never used nor ever will :laugh:
J500FN only has NFC, you can't argue with that. It's even on the model name, N stands for NFC capability
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I know
I was basically saying that you can have the black thing on your back cover and not have nfc
Just tear down J500FN and you will find the nfc is like a plate plugging in the motherboard
SoUnd001 said:
Just tear down J500FN and you will find the nfc is like a plate plugging in the motherboard
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He should ask his friend that owns J500FN to borrow his phone for few hours.
Just make sure you reassamble it properly xD
[email protected]@!3Z said:
I have this black thing on my back cover but i have a J500f and it doesnt have nfc
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You probably dont have the connector in the phone.
[email protected]@!3Z said:
I know
I was basically saying that you can have the black thing on your back cover and not have nfc
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I have a SM-J500F and its battery has NFC written on it.
The battery also seems to have a rectangular area on it which is fatter than the rest of the battery, which I presumed was the NFC loop.
Edit. BTW, did anyone try flashing the J500FN stock ROM onto the J500F?
I presume this could be rather risky, but may be one way to enable the NFC even if its in the battery ??
I'm running the unofficial Lineage ROMon it, but NFC does not get reported.
I guess the battery type could be used in non NFC models as well, and the main board of the phone may not have the NFC hardware, but I don't think all Samsung model have the NFC as part of the back cover.
RogerClark said:
I have a SM-J500F and its battery has NFC written on it.
The battery also seems to have a rectangular area on it which is fatter than the rest of the battery, which I presumed was the NFC loop.
Edit. BTW, did anyone try flashing the J500FN stock ROM onto the J500F?
I presume this could be rather risky, but may be one way to enable the NFC even if its in the battery ??
I'm running the unofficial Lineage ROMon it, but NFC does not get reported.
I guess the battery type could be used in non NFC models as well, and the main board of the phone may not have the NFC hardware, but I don't think all Samsung model have the NFC as part of the back cover.
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Have you read the previews posts at all!?
NFC isn't your battery or software, is piece of hardware, a NFC scanner. Flashing FN rom on F variant wont magically enable NFC.
N on FN stands for NFC.
American_Jesus said:
Have you read the previews posts at all!?
NFC isn't your battery or software, is piece of hardware, a NFC scanner. Flashing FN rom on F variant wont magically enable NFC.
N on FN stands for NFC.
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I am aware of this.
The battery in this case does contain the NFC antenna, there are plenty of teardowns that show this.
Its unclear why the J500F gets fitted with a battery with the NFC antenna, if the main board on the J500F does not contain the NFC hardware IC.
I presume perhaps Samsung put the same battery in lots of different models, regardless of whether the main board has the NFC IC(s), to save inventory costs associated with different batteries.
I can't find the details now, but I recall reading that one other model in the J5 range (apart from the FN) had NFC, possibly for the Hong Kong market.
I'll try to track down the details.
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anyone use the new fancy cover with the window on it with any of the custom OS's out there?
none of them appear to support it either the "magic" ability, nor the special window support at all as far as I can tell
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anyone use the new fancy cover with the window on it with any of the custom OS's out there?
none of them appear to support it either the "magic" ability, nor the special window support at all as far as I can tell
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If your using a touchwiz ROM you should be fine... The screen turning on and off with the opening and closing of the cover is related to the proximity sensor and the window showing texts and missed calls always shows up there in that area on the screen so it should always show through that window
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I think it uses magnets like the apple branded ones and the Nexus 7 covers.
The curiosity I had was more the functionality regarding the ability to answer calls and such without opening the cover.
It doesn't work to turn the screen off/on at all btw, There's an app you can get to do it, but it's pretty craptastic.
baddaybeav said:
I think it uses magnets like the apple branded ones and the Nexus 7 covers.
The curiosity I had was more the functionality regarding the ability to answer calls and such without opening the cover.
It doesn't work to turn the screen off/on at all btw, There's an app you can get to do it, but it's pretty craptastic.
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http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EF-CI950BBESTA#features
Is that the one your talking about? That's the one I was thinking of and turns the screen on and off
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yeah that's the one, it doesn't turn on/off without the 3rd party app at all.
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yeah that's the one, it doesn't turn on/off without the 3rd party app at all.
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Hmm honestly didn't even know there was an app thought it was just part of touchwiz
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I should clarify, with CM10.1, with the factory OS it does turn on/off.
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I should clarify, with CM10.1, with the factory OS it does turn on/off.
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Ah ok yeah I thought you were talking about a custom touchwiz ROM.. Yeah I doubt you'll see support for that from cm/aokp until the Google edition s4 is released maybe not even then
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Hi Folks,
I am almost got fed up reading battery saving tips for android, turn off all features, add bulky battery etc. You can see thousands of forums, with the same same old tips like this, if the features has to be turned off, then why an S4, Nokia classic phone was fine right?
Just one Query, does any one know how to implement iOS like Power/Application management in Android/Galaxy S4 ? The iOS motto is like, if you are using device, it would consume battery , otherwise no. Just wanted something like this which can save battery, any idea ?
Cheers,
Kirankumar.
Turn off all sync and backup features. Turn off all location reporting features. Greenify persistent apps.
Sent from my GT-I9505
Buy an iphone
KiranNokia said:
Hi Folks,
I am almost got fed up reading battery saving tips for android, turn off all features, add bulky battery etc. You can see thousands of forums, with the same same old tips like this, if the features has to be turned off, then why an S4, Nokia classic phone was fine right?
Just one Query, does any one know how to implement iOS like Power/Application management in Android/Galaxy S4 ? The iOS motto is like, if you are using device, it would consume battery , otherwise no. Just wanted something like this which can save battery, any idea ?
Cheers,
Kirankumar.
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try greenify...
Dig xda,there's official thread
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Nreigota said:
Buy an iphone
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Ha Ha, Appreciate your suggestion and you know what would be my reply...
Cheers,
KiK
anu.cool said:
try greenify...
Dig xda,there's official thread
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Hi,
I did try Greenify, and its like everytime the apps needs to be manually force stopped after use, thats a bit wierd, and to take the full advantage, the phone needs to be rooted. As rooting voids the warranty, it wont be a good idea.
Cheers,
KiK
So I assume you have i9500 version with no good custom roms.
Without customs roms you cant do much.
KiranNokia said:
Hi Folks,
I am almost got fed up reading battery saving tips for android, turn off all features, add bulky battery etc. You can see thousands of forums, with the same same old tips like this, if the features has to be turned off, then why an S4, Nokia classic phone was fine right?
Just one Query, does any one know how to implement iOS like Power/Application management in Android/Galaxy S4 ? The iOS motto is like, if you are using device, it would consume battery , otherwise no. Just wanted something like this which can save battery, any idea ?
Cheers,
Kirankumar.
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In android , we have numerous background processes which obviously drains the battery. If you can reduce these processes then u would have a better battery backup. Background processes of iOS n Android are completely different so dont compare it. Rooting is the best way to gain control of your device.
Mandark52 said:
In android , we have numerous background processes which obviously drains the battery. If you can reduce these processes then u would have a better battery backup. Background processes of iOS n Android are completely different so dont compare it. Rooting is the best way to gain control of your device.
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Us S4 users also have the option of using an extra battery, if you really need some extra juice.
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gsmyth said:
Us S4 users also have the option of using an extra battery, if you really need some extra juice.
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+1 on that situ always keep a spare on you as a backup
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Us S4 users also have the option of using an extra battery, if you really need some extra juice.
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Two batteries may result into caliberation issues. Its better to buy a power pack instead of extra battery.
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Mandark52 said:
Two batteries may result into caliberation issues. Its better to buy a power pack instead of extra battery.
Sent from OCTA CORE I9500.
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Not really as long as you use original samsung instead of eBay £3 versions ?? No calibration probs on any batteries here
11calcal said:
Not really as long as you use original samsung instead of eBay £3 versions ?? No calibration probs on any batteries here
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Well u ll get to know about the caliberation issues after months.I had SGA S5830 with an extra battery n faced caliberation issues, SGA ws completely on stock n unrooted. N its logical that if someone is investing 34k in S4 then why would he buy a £3 eBay battery!
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diper07 said:
So I assume you have i9500 version with no good custom roms.
Without customs roms you cant do much.
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Hi Pal,
Ya, I know, and about Custom rom , I am no longer interested at the moment, got to play enough with my Galaxy S+ and Custom ROM, so advantage and disadvantages are very much aware now . With my S4, I dont want to root it or flash Custom ROMs, I was trying to find a way without affecting the official ROM. Trying some workaround, shall let you knw if it works.
Cheers,
KiK
gsmyth said:
Us S4 users also have the option of using an extra battery, if you really need some extra juice.
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Hi Smith,
Thanks for the suggestion, however, I wouldn't recommend that option when you have to do Opening , change battery and closing the back cover on a daily basis, that doesn't look good isn't it? fine, the other option, adding a double capacity battery, aaaah., Considering the shame that brings for you , when someone says, what the heck you're doing with this soap box ( that much bulky it is) , you would rather wish let the phone be switched off better. ,
Okey fine, I have done a work around , which is not perfect as iOS, but some what near.
What I did was, thanks to the kitkat update, which allows you to turn off all most all of the services (including google services) and all the samsung service (most of them), I have turned off all the Samsung service, which I felt not needed (may be S planner and S memo , may used, keep those), and turned off all the unwanted google services, ( games,newstand, play music) ... I did turn off, so anytime it can be turned off, so that fine.
Now, the result! Initial analysis found to be good, I am now getting 10+ hrs, where as before it was 6hrs, (That too on Wifi/3G, without turning off the extra features, air view and other smart features)
No Crashing, No Lag, and about all the main thing I wanted, it drains a very little when it sleeps, almost like iOS now ( yes, iOS drains almost nothing during sleep ) .
100 to 96% after 8hrs during sleep, its good I would say.
Still I could do nothing about SAMOLED Screen and Voice call, which found to be the main battery eater.
Let's see if something new comes to save in Android 4.5 /or 5, which ever the upcoming version is.
Cheers,
KiK
I have been using the LG G Pro Lite for a few days and I loved the knock on unlock feature.. anyway to port it on the galaxy S5?
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Knock ON is included in KToonSez' kernel. Knock Code isn't.
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Knock ON is included in KToonSez' kernel. Knock Code isn't.
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Cool thx i will check this out. Meanwhile i discovered air unlock which us interesting but dunno how well it works. Just hope it does not my phone in my pocket
CrashTestDroid said:
Knock ON is included in KToonSez' kernel. Knock Code isn't.
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Does it affect battery life a lot?
Sensamic said:
Does it affect battery life a lot?
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apparently not, no wakelock needed
I had an LG G3 before my S5 which also has the knock knock code. Didn't cause any battery drain.
It's no where near as stable as it is on the LG G2/LG G3. At least not for me.
Android L includes double tap to wake feature, so let's hope Samsung doesn't delete it in their update.
I am using air unlock since 3 months and found it quite good. No big battery drain and does not unlock in your pocket. Remember, in order to use air unlock, the phone have to be immobilized.
Sensamic said:
Android L includes double tap to wake feature, so let's hope Samsung doesn't delete it in their update.
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Where did you find that? Havent heard of that
gduong128 said:
I am using air unlock since 3 months and found it quite good. No big battery drain and does not unlock in your pocket. Remember, in order to use air unlock, the phone have to be immobilized.
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Have been using air unlock also. It is great when you are working at your desk combined with ac display. But sometimes i have the annoying galaxy s5 bug preventing the phone from waking up.
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Where did you find that? Havent heard of that
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Check out the full Android L feature list. It's there.
Hello everyone!
I just had a look at the new A5 2017 because I want to buy one for my mother and a feature that was very nice and useful was the active fingerprint reader. Just rest the finger on the home button and the device wakes right from the Always on Display.
I am running android N with the new Grace UX on my S7 Edge and i was wondering if there is a setting somewhere i can enable to be able to use this feature.
I know some people will think is useless, so is no need to comment for no reason.
A5 with new hardware... soooo nope. We dont have that on s7 edge.
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That is sad. I was really liking the feature ,hope somneone will figure out how to add it later.
It's only a workaround, but downloading Always on Amoled from the Playstore is working just fine. Fingerprint is always on, no need to push it, and you get double tap to wake, plus other useful features. Definitely worth a try
it's the same hardware, only Samsung is the usual ****. improvements only on new smartphone to increase the sales
Szighy said:
It's only a workaround, but downloading Always on Amoled from the Playstore is working just fine. Fingerprint is always on, no need to push it, and you get double tap to wake, plus other useful features. Definitely worth a try
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Already tried this method , but the battery drain is huge. Maybe someone will figure out how to do it exactly like the new A series.
Lauren G said:
Already tried this method , but the battery drain is huge. Maybe someone will figure out how to do it exactly like the new A series.
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probably sure someone will make a way to have the function also on s7, but the problem is that there will need root to work
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Already tried this method , but the battery drain is huge. Maybe someone will figure out how to do it exactly like the new A series.
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Was going to say that having the reader on constantly may cause some form of wake lock.
Does the Essential Phone have the necessary hardware to support this? If so, has anyone ported this function from another phone to the Ph-1? Thanks.
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Does the Essential Phone have the necessary hardware to support this? If so, has anyone ported this function from another phone to the Ph-1? Thanks.
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Its a kernel feature and it kills the battery
jacksummers said:
Its a kernel feature and it kills the battery
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Does that mean it's only possible with a custom Rom?
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awdrifter said:
Does that mean it's only possible with a custom Rom?
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It's possible but the screen must stay on and cant be put to sleep.
This means it drains battery.
tech_head said:
It's possible but the screen must stay on and cant be put to sleep.
This means it drains battery.
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How does other LCD screen phone do it then? The OnePlus 1 had it, and it also had a LCD screen. I don't think it was always on.
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awdrifter said:
How does other LCD screen phone do it then? The OnePlus 1 had it, and it also had a LCD screen. I don't think it was always on.
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I think it's a combination of low power states enabled for the CPU & digitizer, and a kernel level wakelock. Essential's firmware probably doesn't have that included.
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I think it's a combination of low power states enabled for the CPU & digitizer, and a kernel level wakelock. Essential's firmware probably doesn't have that included.
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It's actually enabled by having the screen and its touch layer on a separate power rail to allow one to be powered on without sending power to another, this allows it to use very little power and work on some phones but use a considerable amount on others (like the PH-1)
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It's actually enabled by having the screen and its touch layer on a separate power rail to allow one to be powered on without sending power to another, this allows it to use very little power and work on some phones but use a considerable amount on others (like the PH-1)
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Ok, thanks for the info. I'm guessing the PH-1 doesn't have separate power for the screen and touch layer, thus the high power consumption if we use tap to wake.
I guess a follow up question is does anyone make a battery case for the PH-1? I guess I would be ok with the power consumption if I can get a battery case with 5500mah, that should allow the phone to last a full day even with tap to wake.
Essential have "lift to check phone" menu, maybe for replace doble tap to wake menu ?
I guess if this menu is enabled will make more battery drain.
IMHO
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This thread is full of total BS. AoD has worked onall customm ROMs I've used on l lcd since 2012.
Who is talking about AOD? That works fine if it is included in the source.. i missed that part..
innoth said:
Essential have "lift to check phone" menu, maybe for replace doble tap to wake menu ?
I guess if this menu is enabled will make more battery drain.
IMHO
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This is actually the ONLY way double tap to wake works...
If you wake the phone into doze mode... With lift to wake... You can then double tap the screen to wake it up...
So I hypothesize that if you were to use one of the AoD hacks... If they even work on this device... You could probably have double tap to wake
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This thread is full of total BS. AoD has worked onall customm ROMs I've used on l lcd since 2012.
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There's a way to do things and then there's a hacked together way to do things. You can make a lot of crap work, doesn't mean it works the best way.
I specifically asked @flar2 about this. Its totally possible if enabled in the kernel, but kills battery. Thats all.
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This thread is full of total BS. AoD has worked onall customm ROMs I've used on l lcd since 2012.
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No kidding... I get sick of idiotic apologists making up reasons for no tap to wake without real proven facts. First they come up with BS like "it uses too much power" waah waah! Then they come up with BS aboout how the hardware doesn't support it.
I don't have a PH-1 screen assembly, but just because there is one ribbon cable connecting it to the phone, doesn't mean that the screen and digitizer use the same power rail. Plenty of phones use tap to wake without any appreciable battery drain.
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No kidding... I get sick of idiotic apologists making up reasons for no tap to wake without real proven facts. First they come up with BS like "it uses too much power" waah waah! Then they come up with BS aboout how the hardware doesn't support it.
I don't have a PH-1 screen assembly, but just because there is one ribbon cable connecting it to the phone, doesn't mean that the screen and digitizer use the same power rail. Plenty of phones use tap to wake without any appreciable battery drain.
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Flar is one of the greats. I used to be fullofhell. I proposed the very thing .. heres what he said
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Flar is one of the greats. I used to be fullofhell. I proposed the very thing .. heres what he said
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To quote a movie...
It's not an excuse not to have the feature available. I'm a big boy, I can decide how I want to drain my battery. Don't need anyone making choices for me.
gyrfalcon said:
To quote a movie...
It's not an excuse not to have the feature available. I'm a big boy, I can decide how I want to drain my battery. Don't need anyone making choices for me.
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Haha nice quote, great film. Then i would say go for it, i would use uber toolchain to compile a kernel with the DT2W.
gyrfalcon said:
To quote a movie...
It's not an excuse not to have the feature available. I'm a big boy, I can decide how I want to drain my battery. Don't need anyone making choices for me.
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Well then what's keeping you from doing it? Big boy?
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No kidding... I get sick of idiotic apologists making up reasons for no tap to wake without real proven facts. First they come up with BS like "it uses too much power" waah waah! Then they come up with BS aboout how the hardware doesn't support it.
I don't have a PH-1 screen assembly, but just because there is one ribbon cable connecting it to the phone, doesn't mean that the screen and digitizer use the same power rail. Plenty of phones use tap to wake without any appreciable battery drain.
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I don't think the amount of cables has anything to do with the power distribution for the screen. You want DT2W? Make it happen.
Edit: also nobody said it wasn't possible, this thread wasn't full of BS until people came in spouting nonsense about how someone else supposedly said it "doesn't support it" acting as if that's the reason it hasn't been done yet on this device.