Read and write in ntfs format possible with v20?
The short answer is usually NO. The reason being Microsoft has high licensing fees for NTFS write support and that is why MicroSD cards come formatted Exfat.
LBJM said:
The short answer is usually NO. The reason being Microsoft has high licensing fees for NTFS write support and that is why MicroSD cards come formatted Exfat.
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But in the oneplus devices(oxygen os) it supports by default i believe .. So does that mean they pay the fees ? Also can you confirm by rooting we can get the read and write access by installing any additional programs that needed..
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But in the oneplus devices(oxygen os) it supports by default i believe .. So does that mean they pay the fees ? Also can you confirm by rooting we can get the read and write access by installing any additional programs that needed..
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Which version of NTFS does it support? Every version of windows that has used NTFS has created a newer version of NTFS that usually is not backwards compatible with the previous version of Windows. I do know that there was an OSS NTFS project that was reverse engineering NTFS, but at the time wasn't able to support the latest and greatest version. if want to use usb sticks and microsd cards with Android via a OTG cable and be able to have read/write support you are better off going with Exfat you get the <4GB file support and most Android devices will read/write the media reliably, but that is not so with NTFS you need extra apps installed before you can get it to work.
You can google the Paragon NTFS support for Android and see that it's been hit or miss for people.
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I have an 8gb sd card for my evo and i need to put a 5.2 gig movie on it. Is there any way i can convert the sd card so that i can put files on it that are larger than 4gb? I formated it to NTFS and the evo wouldn't recognize it. PLEASSEEEEE HELLPPPPPPPPP. THANKS!
Not gonna happen. I don't believe Android has any NTFS support at this time and they probably aren't really looking in to it.
It does.
But fat32 is faster.
I'll test it out, but chances are I'm wasting my time.
kthejoker20 said:
It does.
But fat32 is faster.
I'll test it out, but chances are I'm wasting my time.
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whenever I formated my card to NTFS and put it in my phone it never would recognize it, and wouldn't let me mount it till I formated it back to fat32.
i know it supports ext file systems but i don't know if those are only mounted as apps2sd or if it can be mounted as the main partition for everything
but if ntfs doesn't work it's worth a shot
edit: ext driver for windows http://www.fs-driver.org/
personally i would suggest one of the following options
option 2 compress the video so it is below the 4gb cap (1 file lower quality)
option 3 split it into 2 parts 4gb +1.2gb parts (would maintain full quality but would have 2 files)
i'm assuming your using windows (because u want ntfs) so i cant help with finding apps for compressing or splitting as i use mac but few min of google search should turn up an answer
you need a custom kernel with ntfs built in, or it wont work
none exist as of now, because its not worth the time
kthejoker20 said:
you need a custom kernel with ntfs built in, or it wont work
none exist as of now, because its not worth the time
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Are there any ideas on how to compile a custom kernel with NTFS support?
Wait, why can't you put a file higher than 4GB on FAT32? I've return that I've had isos bigger than that on my flash drives.
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Wait, why can't you put a file higher than 4GB on FAT32? I've return that I've had isos bigger than that on my flash drives.
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your flash drive probably is ntfs or if mac hfs+
fat32 has a file maximum of 4gb no clue as to why but i do know it is there
good example is the ps3 only supports fat32 so games with files above 4gb are split into smaller sizes and cant be played off of external till parts are rejoined together on internal HDD or compressed to smaller sizes
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fat32 has a file maximum of 4gb no clue as to why but i do know it is there
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fat32 probably uses 32-bit addressing which allows up to 4gb to be accessible per file. Just like you can't recognize memory over 4gb on a 32-bit OS.
what about ext4 or 3 it supports lfs. 16gb files or some ****
And there are already ways to create an ext4 or ext3 partition on your sd card, doesn't aman ra do that? or sdpart or something. I dont remember I've never needed apps2sd or anything like that. I have such few apps. But I'm pretty sure that'll be the way to go since it is recognized so easily by linux anways.
I'm sure the OP just said NTFS because it is what he is familiar with, not because he actually wanted to use NTFS for any particular reason.
Afaik, no. Recompress the movie. Or just split it.
Is this possible on any of these three?
*stock ROM
*stock ROM with different kernel
*non stock ROM?
I want to be able to upgrade to 64 and 128...
Yes, pretty much any Android device out there will work with a 64gb microSD if you allow the device to reformat it to FAT32 versus the default exFAT file system. The phone will ask to do this automatically when it finds an incompatible file system on the card, so its pretty easy to do.
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Yes, pretty much any Android device out there will work with a 64gb microSD if you allow the device to reformat it to FAT32 versus the default exFAT file system. The phone will ask to do this automatically when it finds an incompatible file system on the card, so its pretty easy to do.
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thanks, I was under the impression it was a hardware limitation.
128GB should be OK then too.
rancur3p1c said:
thanks, I was under the impression it was a hardware limitation.
128GB should be OK then too.
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In theory reformatting to FAT32 will work up to 2TB. The largest a single file can be is 4GB due to the 32bit limitation of this older file system. This is part of the reason exFAT is being used on newer cards.
rancur3p1c said:
thanks, I was under the impression it was a hardware limitation.
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You can also do it on a PC (Windows or Linux) with a reader.
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spunker88 said:
In theory reformatting to FAT32 will work up to 2TB. The largest a single file can be is 4GB due to the 32bit limitation of this older file system. This is part of the reason exFAT is being used on newer cards.
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Wait thought exFat was the reason for the 32gb limitation?
Seems like one step forward one back.
rancur3p1c said:
Wait thought exFat was the reason for the 32gb limitation?
Seems like one step forward one back.
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The 32GB limit is an artificial limit set by Microsoft and others so that people would choose newer file systems. Its just a coincidence (or perhaps they did it on purpose) that this limit was set at 32GB. The 32 in FAT32 refers to the fact that it can only represent a file with 2^32-1 bytes which turns out to be around 4GB. But as long as you keep individual files below 4GB, there really isn't any disadvantages to FAT32, maybe slower transfer speeds.
exFAT is basically the successor to FAT32. If we ever get exFAT support in Android someday, the card can be formatted back to exFAT easily.
flash coffee kernel doesn't mount ntfs,than did perseus that didnt work now i dont even wanna flash Razer LTS cause that wont work,is any kernels out that work mounting it with paragon
Use exFAT format
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Deezy88 said:
flash coffee kernel doesn't mount ntfs,than did perseus that didnt work now i dont even wanna flash Razer LTS cause that wont work,is any kernels out that work mounting it with paragon
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Hi,
To quote from faux123:
NOTE: This kernel DOES NOT SUPPORT exFAT formatted 64 GB SDCards! In order to use 64 GB SDCards, you need to format it to NTFS, then use NTFSMount from Play Store to access your 64GB SDCard.
(This is due to LACK OF SOURCE CODE from Samsung/Microsoft for exFAT. Samsung licensed Microsoft's CLOSED SOURCE exFAT implementation. But Samsung under agreement with Microsoft DOES NOT release the source code and therefore we CANNOT build any support for exFAT formatted 64 GB SDCards )
Source:
look HERE
kevin95 said:
Use exFAT format
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I got 50 gb of files on a ntfs,i aint trying reformat and send it over the exfat,but i think that what im have to do
Deezy88 said:
I got 50 gb of files on a ntfs,i aint trying reformat and send it over the exfat,but i think that what im have to do
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I am rooted and use Paragon NTFS &HFS+ from the Play Store to display files on NTFS. Works quite well, actually.
faux123 said:
NOTE: This kernel DOES NOT SUPPORT exFAT formatted 64 GB SDCards! In order to use 64 GB SDCards, you need to format it to NTFS, then use NTFSMount from Play Store to access your 64GB SDCard.
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You need to do this, before he can see it.
robogo1982 said:
I am rooted and use Paragon NTFS &HFS+ from the Play Store to display files on NTFS. Works quite well, actually.
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too late had reformat and put them in exfat,good thing now i can use it in recovery,and its just like ntfs with no limits
I've got a 128GB microSD card that I've been using for a while with CM12.1 on a 900T. I just flashed CM13, and it says that it doesn't support the card. I swapped the card out with a smaller one that's FAT32, and it reads it fine. Is this an exFAT issue? Is this just CM13, or does Marshmallow itself not support this? Any idea?
You have to select it under storage and format as portable make sure you backup anything stored on it as it will erase it
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You have to select it under storage and format as portable make sure you backup anything stored on it as it will erase it
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I selected it as portable, but that doesn't address the formatting issue. It wants to reformat the card, saying that it's incompatible. I've got another card in the phone that I've gone through the process, and it didn't ask to reformat the card. The other card works fine. The 128GB exFAT card worked fine before I flashed CM13, and is what I had the CM13 image on when I flashed it (so it works in recovery). The exFAT card is also read fine by my computer. I understand the implications of the exFAT format, but everything else seems to read it fine. I'm looking for confirmation for the symptoms I'm seeing, and wondering if there's a work around to using the card as is without reformatting it.
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I selected it as portable, but that doesn't address the formatting issue. It wants to reformat the card, saying that it's incompatible. I've got another card in the phone that I've gone through the process, and it didn't ask to reformat the card. The other card works fine. The 128GB exFAT card worked fine before I flashed CM13, and is what I had the CM13 image on when I flashed it (so it works in recovery). The exFAT card is also read fine by my computer. I understand the implications of the exFAT format, but everything else seems to read it fine. I'm looking for confirmation for the symptoms I'm seeing, and wondering if there's a work around to using the card as is without reformatting it.
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I don't like to hop onto other people's topics, but seeing as I too suffer from the same issue as you are, I also want to know if there is a fix that will allow people to use micro SD cards without formatting it in Android Marshmallow as I think it is absolutely stupid for the OS to ask users to format it before using it in Android Marshmallow.
Marshmallow wants to format it to FAT32, which is stupid I agree. Whether a fix will come or not is up to CM - I doubt Google will do anything about it.
I had to backup everything and let the phone reset the SD, it was a Transcend 64GB exFat.
Thanks. I thought that was probably the case, but I wanted verification. Any idea if it supports other formats besides FAT32?
It's not that CM doesn't support exfat - external usb in exfat is recognized and read. But using it as portable storage seems to make it want to format to fat32.
Update: marshmallow converted my sd card to fat32 ((
I was wondering why the speeds were a bit slow...
Well f***... I'm having the same issue. Seems like I'm stuck without ex_sdcard, as when I try to format the storage via android it gets stuck at 20% (cm13 + samsung 64 class10). Fortunately I could re-format the card with a card reader to exFAT and now I can use TWRP to send my previous CM12.1 backup and restore it. Really glad I dumped that backup to my pc
Can anyone confirm if this is a CM13 related issue or a marshmallow one? The former would be great, as there are more chances of getting a "fix" form them than from google.
Thanks a bunch.
I hate to drum up an old thread but I see it's only a few weeks old and never got an answer....
If I'm not mistaken, exFat is not recognized by Google Android natively. Some hardware manufactures (like Samsung) bake exFat support into their version of Android but I understand this is at a cost as they have to pay MS for licensing and MS is keeping a firm hold on it. Since CM is based from Vanilla Android, it too won't have native support for exFat. It will however support Fat32 but that sucks because it is slow and has a 4GB file limitation. I have read that ext4 is mountable with Marshmellow but it is not compatible with Windows natively. So the option then becomes how to get large files onto the extSD card if it is formatted to ext4 if you have a windows machine? This is where I'm at. I'm currently formatting a microsd card to ext4 to try and see if I can still wirelessly transfer directly to my extsd card or if I can transfer to the internal storage and then transfer from internal to external storage within the phone.
I'm sure there is a fix for getting exFat compatibility somewhere though.
I'm running 6.0.1 stock on my Nexus 7 and was able to access my 64GB exFat microSD via OTG using Solid Explorer and it's OTG plugin. Paid app but completely worth all the features.
Solid Explorer - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.solidexplorer2
Solid Explorer USB OTG Plugin - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.solidexplorer.plugins.otg
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I'm running 6.0.1 stock on my Nexus 7 and was able to access my 64GB exFat microSD via OTG using Solid Explorer and it's OTG plugin. Paid app but completely worth all the features.
Solid Explorer - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.solidexplorer2
Solid Explorer USB OTG Plugin - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.solidexplorer.plugins.otg
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Yes, but that is as an OTG device, not a portable sd card directly in a slot on the device. Apples and oranges.
I've just met this regression on my SIII, it's Google not coughing up the licensing for exFAT. Perhaps not surprising.
It's going to be fun working with painfully slow FAT32 after 3/4 years without it.
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If you are lucky enough to be running a Motorola stock ROM you can set your card as portable storage and your phone will not reformat the card.
Can someone confirm this and will Moto phones support exFAT natively?
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/109134/p/1449,9582
From clintonfitch.com, not verified by me: "But there is another feature that Android users have long wanted out of the platform that has come with Marshmallow: Native USB On-the-go (OTG) support. ... it appears that the only devices that this works on with Marshmallow are Nexus devices: Nexus 5, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6, Nexus 6P, Nexus 7 (2013), Nexus 9 and Pixel C. I can confirm that I was able to connect a USB drive and a mouse successfully to my Nexus 6 and Nexus 7 while I was equally able to connect both to a colleague who as the Nexus 6P and Nexus 9. " I have not verified this; I use a rooted Marshmallow with stickmount and that works with exFAT 64GB cards formatted on my GoPro.
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Well f***... I'm having the same issue. Seems like I'm stuck without ex_sdcard, as when I try to format the storage via android it gets stuck at 20% (cm13 + samsung 64 class10). Fortunately I could re-format the card with a card reader to exFAT and now I can use TWRP to send my previous CM12.1 backup and restore it. Really glad I dumped that backup to my pc
Can anyone confirm if this is a CM13 related issue or a marshmallow one? The former would be great, as there are more chances of getting a "fix" form them than from google.
Thanks a bunch.
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Try formatting it as FAT in TWRP and booting back.
I confirm Solid Explorer unlocked read and write exFAT USBstick via OTG. Maybe the only solution till now.
same issue
i am also having this same sd card issue on resurrection remix -marshmallow v5.6.7 where 128gb exfat card ask for format and erase for both portable and internal storage options whereas old 2gb FAT card works fine
i guess this is marshmallow problem.cause lollipop was fine too
now i looking to make my sd card work without formatting it...but i guess thats not possible
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i am also having this same sd card issue on resurrection remix -marshmallow v5.6.7 where 128gb exfat card ask for format and erase for both portable and internal storage options whereas old 2gb FAT card works fine
i guess this is marshmallow problem.cause lollipop was fine too
now i looking to make my sd card work without formatting it...but i guess thats not possible
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I was able to make it work with boeffla kernel
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Chaitanyapatel8880 said:
I was able to make it work with boeffla kernel
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Using it as portable storage or OTG?
What ROM? Galaxy S5?
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Chaitanyapatel8880 said:
I was able to make it work with boeffla kernel
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can you give us a direct link ?
Agni kernal also supports exfat but its just my sd card doesn't work even with it. i talked to kernel developer and he said that the rom must utilize this kernel feature in order to support exfat card and since vanilla android doesn't support exfat so flashing kernel that supports exfat without rom that doesn't is futile attempt. i know this coz i have tried it and given up
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Using it as portable storage or OTG?
What ROM? Galaxy S5?
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i guess you could make exfat work in otg with correct app e.g solid file explorer with its USB OTG plugin or with stickmount app by chainfire in CM based roms.
its the portable storage that gives problems
samsung galaxy series with touchwiz based rom support exfat. Samsung baked this support into their roms ,but CM based roms on galaxy devices give problem with exfat cards since exfat file system is not native in vanilla android
I'm having to prepare a memory card for my nieces phone and I will not have a lot of time to trouble shoot it (she lives across state) when I go to install it.
It would be better if it was fully prepared and ready to go when it is opened at Christmas and ready for gaming.
Her phone is a unmodded Samsung Galaxy J3.
I know that Samsung Note 3's will take Exfat and a lot of phones won't, but I don't want to plug
and pray and lose and have to trouble shoot during a very limited amount of time.
Anyone have a complete list of filesystems the stock rom J3 can read on a memory card?
Or atleast can attest that it supports a certain other filesystem with no filename limits?
Samsung made F2FS do most of their phones support it innately?
I expect that all files put on it will be over 255 characters of length for the filename (beyond Fat32's support).
Exfat, NTFS, Ext4, F2FS? Information that anything is supported instead Fat32 will help immensly.
I've searched all over the internet for this info, thank you for any replies. >.<
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iBarf said:
I'm having to prepare a memory card for my nieces phone and I will not have a lot of time to trouble shoot it (she lives across state) when I go to install it.
It would be better if it was fully prepared and ready to go when it is opened at Christmas and ready for gaming.
Her phone is a unmodded Samsung Galaxy J3.
I know that Samsung Note 3's will take Exfat and a lot of phones won't, but I don't want to plug
and pray and lose and have to trouble shoot during a very limited amount of time.
Anyone have a complete list of filesystems the stock rom J3 can read on a memory card?
Or atleast can attest that it supports a certain other filesystem with no filename limits?
Samsung made F2FS do most of their phones support it innately?
I expect that all files put on it will be over 255 characters of length for the filename (beyond Fat32's support).
Exfat, NTFS, Ext4, F2FS? Information that anything is supported instead Fat32 will help immensly.
I've searched all over the internet for this info, thank you for any replies. >.<
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ExFAT is recommended and probably the file system the sdcard will be shipped with.
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ExFAT is recommended and probably the file system the sdcard will be shipped with.
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It worked out beautifully with exfat.
Yeah it had a Exfat filesystem on it at first.
Pretty sure my Honor 5x won't load it though.
Phone manufactures have to license exfat support right?
And Android memory cards are usually Fat32?
I skipped using unmodded phones completely so I'm not really sure
what most of the stock phone systems support (my memory cards are usually ext4 or f2fs formatted).