Hello.
As i was always frustrated battery life in my G4, some time ago i found a way to improve battery life about 30%.
Some time ago i borrowed my fast charger 2A to my sister, then i used old Sony 850ma charger to my G4, after whole night iv'e started to use my phone, i didn't know it will the longest day with 4,5h SOT, and 15% battery left on my G4, iv'e charged it again on this old sony charger, and same, good life battery, after 3 days i used my normal 2A charger, effect? Battery drain horrible, just % down and down, 3h sot, battery is empty. So for me, charging with less amperage, slow charing gives much better battery life. Check it guys and let know how it works for you
Ganjax said:
Hello.
As i was always frustrated battery life in my G4, some time ago i found a way to improve battery life about 30%.
Some time ago i borrowed my fast charger 2A to my sister, then i used old Sony 850ma charger to my G4, after whole night iv'e started to use my phone, i didn't know it will the longest day with 4,5h SOT, and 15% battery left on my G4, iv'e charged it again on this old sony charger, and same, good life battery, after 3 days i used my normal 2A charger, effect? Battery drain horrible, just % down and down, 3h sot, battery is empty. So for me, charging with less amperage, slow charing gives much better battery life. Check it guys and let know how it works for you
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And charging with the regular g4 charger?
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And charging with the regular g4 charger?
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No no, sense is, faster charge = lower battery life, longer charge with less amperage = longer battery life.
I checked it with original G5 charger and samsung 2A charger, fast charge = worse battery life.
Ganjax said:
No no, sense is, faster charge = lower battery life, longer charge with less amperage = longer battery life.
I checked it with original G5 charger and samsung 2A charger, fast charge = worse battery life.
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The original charger is 1.8A tho. But I'll give it a try despite the fact it makes no sense whatsoever xD
It have much sense, i saw somewhere article about batteries and that's true that slower charging is like "deeper charing" anything it mean.
I feel big difference, as im using G4 for one year and I really was frustrated it drain very fast, and now it looks as it should. Check today:
https://imgur.com/pAl5xym
30 min calls, 1:20sot (youtube, browser, tapatalk, messenger and facebook) and still 80%. Before it was impossible to get result like this.
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@Ganjax,I have a 850ma charger from my Razr XT910 and I'll try this...
Can you tell me how long it will take to charge this battery with it? From,let's say 15%-20% to 100%?
not sure about battery technologiy right now. but it makes sense. when i used to fly rc helicopters with lipo batteries. slow charge would make battery life last longer, then using fast charge. in some cases fast charge would heat battery.
it seems like it holds charge better.
welder73 said:
@Ganjax,I have a 850ma charger from my Razr XT910 and I'll try this...
Can you tell me how long it will take to charge this battery with it? From,let's say 15%-20% to 100%?
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Really not so long, 3-4h and dont forget to connect phone when it have 15% battery left, not less, it's best for battery condition.
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Check this out, 1h spotify, 1h calling, fb, messenger, always mobile data on and ~3h sot and STILL 40% battery! It's incredible for me.
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yep. Used to do the same thing with my g2. Would get an extra 1hr or so SOT. Find the same with the G4. Even with my super cheap extended battery.
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Really not so long, 3-4h and dont forget to connect phone when it have 15% battery left, not less, it's best for battery condition.
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yeah i beleive so that lipos should not dye on you best thing is to recharge at 20%, its been a long time since i used lipos. but if i remember right . its cause it isnt like the nicd or nmh. lipos dont have memory. so if you go below at certain voltage it makes battery shorter life..
when you have a car battery that isnt doing okey you take it to a slow charge that takes a whole day to recharge they dont use fast charge.. so slow its always better.
When i charge with my fast charger 2.0 the batterie last less, that´s a fact !
I will try with a slower charger to see the difference.
What´s the amperage ?
I do not care about chargers. I charge anytime anywhre with any charger . my phone stay with 100% battery after 3 hours of beibg unplug from charger. I make phone calls etc and still 100 % after long time boing unplug feom charge.
Is true is very true . my friends alllways want their phone to do same .
The secret? No secret ,i m just using slim 6 rom .
dianxxyyzz said:
I do not care about chargers. I charge anytime anywhre with any charger . my phone stay with 100% battery after 3 hours of beibg unplug from charger. I make phone calls etc and still 100 % after long time boing unplug feom charge.
Is true is very true . my friends alllways want their phone to do same .
The secret? No secret ,i m just using slim 6 rom .
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Thats marketing
yesman89 said:
Thats marketing
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No marketing man. Rom is free for eveyone .i ask myself if i do a slow 850ma charge ,how many hours my phone stay on 100 % after unplug from charger. I have to check
If you really want to improve battery life...
I've been running this 8500mah battery (google zerolemon g4 battery) for over a year now... Get 3+ days out of it still... I have noticed that since the H81120Q OTA update it's gone down some (used to get 4-5 days on a charge), not sure if that's because of the battery age or the update. I'm running stock firmware. Only complaint I've have is that the buttons on the back can be a little tricky to feel the difference of without turning it over...
That's actually true. I have some old LG adapter with 0.8A and after charging it like this I get like 5 or 6hrs of SOT. With Samsung fast charger I get only up to 4.5h. Don't use fast charger if you don't really need it. It should only be used if case of emergency like you run out of battery but you need it to last 2 more hours and you don't have much time to let it charge. Then in the evening recharge it with weaker charger
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welder73 said:
@Ganjax,I have a 850ma charger from my Razr XT910 and I'll try this...
Can you tell me how long it will take to charge this battery with it? From,let's say 15%-20% to 100%?
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For me with LG 0.8A it's about 4-6 hours to fully charge battery
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Same here, im just plug charger on night and at morning got full device. Im using slow charge now and i really have better battery performance now, as never before.
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is there a way to reduce voltage on stock charger.? an app a terminal command.? if so what would be an ideal setting?
raptorddd said:
is there a way to reduce voltage on stock charger.? an app a terminal command.? if so what would be an ideal setting?
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Yes, but it's kernel job, if kernel support voltage ac control. On LG G2 dev Dorimanx implemented this, on G4 i think nobody. It's stweaks scripts.
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I went back to the slow charger for overnight charging and battery life has been pretty darn good. When I use the fast charger it says it gets to 100 quickly but I feel it drops down way faster. Anyone else feel this way?
yeah, same happened with the note 4. I only use the fast charger when i need a quick charge. I use my old note galaxy tab s regular charger overnight.
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Yeah. Fast chargers are great (the one included with MXPE is superb) but they're not meant for overnight-leave-your-phone-on-the-charger-for-6-or-7-hours-while-you-sleep type charging. Technically, the less you leave your phone on ANY charger after it reaches 100% the better it is for your battery.
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Yeah. Fast chargers are great (the one included with MXPE is superb) but they're not meant for overnight-leave-your-phone-on-the-charger-for-6-or-7-hours-while-you-sleep type charging. Technically, the less you leave your phone on ANY charger after it reaches 100% the better it is for your battery.
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This used to be true, but I thought it's been debunked with current battery technology. Recent source anywhere?
No source... IMO. (And the fellow XDA members that replied to this thread)
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No source... IMO. (And the fellow XDA members that replied to this thread)
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He was asking for the source saying it is better to disconnect your phone once it gets 100% battery...
It's been proven it has no ill effect over time, and after charging to full it will stop charging until it discharges enough to need a trickle charge, at which point it will trickle back up to 100% and repeat the process.
If you have ever had a battery pack shut itself off after charging your phone to 100%, it's because it finished charging and didn't discharge quickly enough before the battery pack shut off.
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I never use my rapid/turbo/quick charger (or whatever it's called). I only use the regular old overnight charger. I get great battery life. I know for a fact that heat is bad for all electronic components including batteries as can be read about in numerous articles on the subject. However, I also wonder about rapid charging to 100% why would the charge not last as long? Unless something that is reading the battery capacity is not accurate when the battery has been rapidly charged?
I don't have any scientific evidence. I just find I get better battery life using the old charger and noticeably worse battery using the rapid charger
I use the rapid charger and the battery life is the same with or without it.
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Yeah. Fast chargers are great (the one included with MXPE is superb) but they're not meant for overnight-leave-your-phone-on-the-charger-for-6-or-7-hours-while-you-sleep type charging. Technically, the less you leave your phone on ANY charger after it reaches 100% the better it is for your battery.
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I agree with this, my phone was on 15% and I was about to fall asleep so I left it plugged in for about 9 hours, and it was almost dead with 2hrs SOT and 5 hours after being unplugged. But if I unplug it when it's at 80-90% it lasts me almost all day and into the night.
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I use the rapid charger and the battery life is the same with or without it.
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Same here. Rapid charge is awesome, and my battery life is very good as a business user.
I agree that fast charging is great for a temporary quick charge but not good using it to get your phone to 100%
Does anybody else's battery drain quick?
Marshmallovv said:
Does anybody else's battery drain quick?
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Yes but it depends on the charge and discharge. If I charge my phone for a couple of hours (even with the turbo charger) it drains less slowly.
Sometimes I get stuck charging at day 88% and I have to let the battery door to recalibrate. It seems like there are battery problems and I may send in for support (along with ghost charging that occurs when phone gets cold)
I have noticed battery last longer with normal charge (i.e OUT 5V - 2.0A) than Turbo Charge, I don't know if I'm the only one but you may try using normal charge rather than fast charge just for the sake of comparison
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I have noticed battery last longer with normal charge (i.e OUT 5V - 2.0A) than Turbo Charge, I don't know if I'm the only one but you may try using normal charge rather than fast charge just for the sake of comparison
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A normal charger takes 3-4 hours on my phone. What is your experience?
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A normal charger takes 3-4 hours on my phone. What is your experience?
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I'm using an OEM Samsung charger with INPUT 100-240V ~ 50/60Hz and OUTPUT 5V - 2A. Phone takes around 2.5hrs from 10-15% to 100%. It is not the best I know but in my very personal experience it works better for me
Hi just wondering if anyone wants to share their accubattery battery wear screenshots. Mine reports I've only lost 2% capacity in 6months which I find impressive.
Well it certainly doesnt look that good for my battery. It lost 25% in 16 months.
That looks consistent with what I've seen from others stats. It looks like my strategy of only charging to 85% is working(and only using a 700ma charger for overnight charging, I only use a 2A charger if I need a topup during the day which I rarely do).
Anyway 3700mah is still enough to easily make it through the day at least for me.
Here's mine
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Here's mine
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Hello everyone, which kernel is the best for Mi A1 ?? i need least is support fast charge
thanks everyone :laugh:
S_ATTT said:
Hello everyone, which kernel is the best for Mi A1 ?? i need least is support fast charge
thanks everyone :laugh:
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Franko kernel has good reviews
gedamsandeep said:
Franko kernel has good reviews
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do Franko have fast charge??
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do Franko have fast charge??
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I hv't use yet. But yes I hv seen it on YouTube that with Franko kernel mi A1 take 30 minutes less time to charge from 0 to 100% compare to official stock kernel.
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I hv't use yet. But yes I hv seen it on YouTube that with Franko kernel mi A1 take 30 minutes less time to charge from 0 to 100% compare to official stock kernel.
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i think that is lie ?
Void kernel for stock
Moun kernel for custom/treble.
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S_ATTT said:
Hello everyone, which kernel is the best for Mi A1 ?? i need least is support fast charge
thanks everyone :laugh:
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The MiA1 wasn't designed for fast charge so the battery will probably fail sooner.
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The MiA1 wasn't designed for fast charge so the battery will probably fail sooner.
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This is not true at all. There's no special "quick charge battery" installed in phones that support quick charge. The SD625 supports QC 3.0 (it's listed right on the official qualcomm website), Xiaomi just decided to exclude the functionality in their kernel. That being said, I would make sure the phone is placed in an open area to make sure heat is dissipated well while quick charging. I would also only use quick charging on an as need basis. Putting it on a quick charger at the end of the day, every single day, just to sit at 100% most of the night is kinda pointless. A slower charger would be a better choice for over night charging if you're really concerned about battery health. These same tips would also apply to phones with QC support OOB.
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This is not true at all. There's no special "quick charge battery" installed in phones that support quick charge. The SD625 supports QC 3.0 (it's listed right on the official qualcomm website), Xiaomi just decided to exclude the functionality in their kernel. That being said, I would make sure the phone is placed in an open area to make sure heat is dissipated well while quick charging. I would also only use quick charging on an as need basis. Putting it on a quick charger at the end of the day, every single day, just to sit at 100% most of the night is kinda pointless. A slower charger would be a better choice for over night charging if you're really concerned about battery health. These same tips would also apply to phones with QC support OOB.
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Wrong. Fast charging is not just a function of the SOC but requires a different battery chemistry and improved charging algorithms built into the battery and charger itself. Heat is not the only problem with fast charging as you are alluding. Hammering the battery with a 'forced' fast charge is a good recipe for killing the battery prematurely.
Does anybody noticed the battery health of 6t draining faster ..
I'm talking about capacity of battery
After 4 cycle of accubattery app it shows around 3600 mah battery but my phone is brand new its been a 10 days till i bought .. is my battery faulty or is it okay ?
STARK0711 said:
Does anybody noticed the battery health of 6t draining faster ..
I'm talking about capacity of battery
After 4 cycle of accubattery app it shows around 3600 mah battery but my phone is brand new its been a 10 days till i bought .. is my battery faulty or is it okay ?
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Accubattery does not work correctly on the OnePlus.
Try ampre
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Try ampre
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Okay buddy
Yeah, mine after I unplugged (100) it shows 98 and sometime 99 in less than 2 minutes without using my phone at all ... And all my apps are not running in the background just a few never had this problem before I did factory reset clear cache and all that but still ...
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Yeah, mine after I unplugged (100) it shows 98 and sometime 99 in less than 2 minutes without using my phone at all ... And all my apps are not running in the background just a few never had this problem before I did factory reset clear cache and all that but still ...
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Same here. Battery quickly drains to 96% after unplugging from the charger. Takes half an hour max without using at all. After that normal drain.
reppi said:
Same here. Battery quickly drains to 96% after unplugging from the charger. Takes half an hour max without using at all. After that normal drain.
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May be new update is buggy ?
Since the last release I decided to stick with Nova Prime and no Google Companion. Before I was on stock launcher and turned off shelf. Charged to 100% and over night battery drained to 99%.Right now I am at 77% with 2 hrs of screen time and been unplugged for 16 hrs.
I would think that shelf or Google Discover is a battery drain for sure.
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May be new update is buggy ?
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I don't think so. It's happening on custom ROMs as well. For me it started from one day on another. Weird thing but I think that's the ACTUAL capacity of the battery. You'll actually never have 100% battery when unplugging from the charger after some longer charging. It just shows you that.
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Same here. Battery quickly drains to 96% after unplugging from the charger. Takes half an hour max without using at all. After that normal drain.
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At least I'm not the only one with this problem... Hope this can be fixed .. because is kinda annoying.
STARK0711 said:
Does anybody noticed the battery health of 6t draining faster ..
I'm talking about capacity of battery
After 4 cycle of accubattery app it shows around 3600 mah battery but my phone is brand new its been a 10 days till i bought .. is my battery faulty or is it okay ?
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I noticed as well. I think its because of my extended use of fast charging as isn't good for the battery. But I thought that the heat was going to the charger and you should use the charger that comes in the box.
However, from extended use of my 6T and my previous phone the OnePlus 3. Dash charging affects the battery even though heat doesn't go to the phone, it affects the battery health. And you shouldn't use it especially if you want to keep the phone for 2+ years. I've been using my 6T since December and my battery health is around 70%?! I only been using dash charge as well for both of my 6T and OP3. The reason I upgraded was because of the degraded battery in my OP3. From this, I'm gonna send my 6T back to OnePlus for a battery replacement, so that I get a brand new battery and from now on I'm never gonna use dash charge and instead gonna use quick charge 2.0 chargers as I don't have a apple 5V charger. But this should still be better for long term, even if it is a form of fast charging. All Samsung phones since the S7 have been having this quick charge standard. Using fast chargers is convenient, but it is not good for long term and it is just another scummy way for companies to reduce the longevity of your device and make you buy a new one. Tbh Dash Charging or Warp Charging or any fast charging should only be used when you're in a rush and you're phone's battery is low
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I noticed as well. I think its because of my extended use of fast charging as isn't good for the battery. But I thought that the heat was going to the charger and you should use the charger that comes in the box.
However, from extended use of my 6T and my previous phone the OnePlus 3. Dash charging affects the battery even though heat doesn't go to the phone, it affects the battery health. And you shouldn't use it especially if you want to keep the phone for 2+ years. I've been using my 6T since December and my battery health is around 70%?! I only been using dash charge as well for both of my 6T and OP3. The reason I upgraded was because of the degraded battery in my OP3. From this, I'm gonna send my 6T back to OnePlus for a battery replacement, so that I get a brand new battery and from now on I'm never gonna use dash charge and instead gonna use quick charge 2.0 chargers as I don't have a apple 5V charger. But this should still be better for long term, even if it is a form of fast charging. All Samsung phones since the S7 have been having this quick charge standard. Using fast chargers is convenient, but it is not good for long term and it is just another scummy way for companies to reduce the longevity of your device and make you buy a new one. Tbh Dash Charging or Warp Charging or any fast charging should only be used when you're in a rush and you're phone's battery is low
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Thanks buddy noticed this issue too .. while charging on regular charger it's fine shows almost 3700 as health but on dash charger it shows much lower
So i figured something interesting ...
The ideal capacity of oneplus 6t is 3700
But rated or we can say usable capacity is of 3610mah ..
So according to that accubattery is almost right ...
Hey!
I got a new device one week ago. Felt the same. As soon as I unplug, it starts to tick. Battery backup is up for 24 hours only. But I have seen many say that it lasts longer. Suggestions? ? I did one update after getting the device. That's it. Even before it was the same situation.
saraofficial said:
Hey!
I got a new device one week ago. Felt the same. As soon as I unplug, it starts to tick. Battery backup is up for 24 hours only. But I have seen many say that it lasts longer. Suggestions? ? I did one update after getting the device. That's it. Even before it was the same situation.
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In the beginning I had a similar issue. Drain up to approx. 85% went fairly quick,but afterwards the drain will improve drastically. Takes some time I think
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In the beginning I had a similar issue. Drain up to approx. 85% went fairly quick,but afterwards the drain will improve drastically. Takes some time I think
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You mean to say that drain will stop? Sorry just wanted to clarify. ?
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You mean to say that drain will stop? Sorry just wanted to clarify. ?
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It did for me at least. Otherwise it's an app issue.
I only have the "issue" that battery goes from 100 to 96% fairly quick but I don't really care. Drain afterwards is normal and getting over 10hrs SOT easily anyway.
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It did for me at least. Otherwise it's an app issue.
I only have the "issue" that battery goes from 100 to 96% fairly quick but I don't really care. Drain afterwards is normal and getting over 10hrs SOT easily anyway.
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Yah 10+ some occasions ... So not a big deal .. and this rated capacity issue seems to be in all one plus devices .. so nothing to worry about ...i guess so
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Same here. Battery quickly drains to 96% after unplugging from the charger. Takes half an hour max without using at all. After that normal drain.
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Mine does this but I noticed that if I reboot my phone every morning before taking it off the charger, this issue goes away. So I'm guessing there is some sort of trickle charging happening once the batter reaches capacity. I also notice if I take the phone off the charger as soon as it hits 100%, battery does not drain to 96% quickly as well. Must be something with the way one plus software works with charging
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Mine does this but I noticed that if I reboot my phone every morning before taking it off the charger, this issue goes away. So I'm guessing there is some sort of trickle charging happening once the batter reaches capacity. I also notice if I take the phone off the charger as soon as it hits 100%, battery does not drain to 96% quickly as well. Must be something with the way one plus software works with charging
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Yah it's a tricky may be preventing battery from unusal degrading ...
Nonetheless battery backup is just amazing ..im on staock oos9.0.13 and this is what i got its amazing ....