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Hi all, i'm going to buy this device, probably, but i'm a bit scared by its particularity.
I fear that not so many devs will pick it up and support for long time...who's here, apart from Chainfire (great guy, but he develops root methods mostly, not full roms or super optimized kernel, he shows the way to others )?
Supercurio (another great dev, but with specific attention to color/sound and not to full roms, again) could come up later (he doesn't seem the "0 day" buyer ), or at least i hope so, and i think Cyanogen will come pretty soon (but could it be with S-Pen full support or not?), but then?
Is it out in USA or not yet?
Sorry for all the questions (they may sound even dumb, i know), but continuous development is the only main "?" i'm facing before the purchase (my galaxy s1, far from being perfect, gained incredible improvements from devs' work)
Same doubts here... How about developers who have the device/are about to buy comment on this thread, that way we can know about the kind of developer support we can expect.
It took 7 months for the GSII to come to the US. I wouldn't cross my fingers.
I'm running rooted stock right now and I am already getting better battery, performance than my S2, and loving this HD screen!
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But when I bought the SGSII in June 1st week, a lot of development was already taking place. The Note is following the same launch trajectory: UK>Europe>India>South-East Asia> then rest of the world. Now that it's available in India, I don't see many developers who have adopted the device.
kunalparwani said:
But when I bought the SGSII in June 1st week, a lot of development was already taking place. The Note is following the same launch trajectory: UK>Europe>India>South-East Asia> then rest of the world. Now that it's available in India, I don't see many developers who have adopted the device.
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The op was asking if the Note was in the US, wasn't responding to you.
Why run custom ROMs when the system is already godly? Anyways just look at the At&t ****rocket, it is a piece of **** that At&t created and it is still getting devs.
If you think development is a problem, there's a simple solution... go with your gut. No one here can tell you what to do, the Note runs faster and smoother than my GSII that has cooked roms. Cooked ROMs can increase some aspects, but mess up others. Once someone zipaligns and adds some init'd scripts, I'll be happy.
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The op was asking if the Note was in the US, wasn't responding to you.
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I was asking for availability to US developers, i'm european and very keen to buy this beautiful tabphone (hoping to be able to manage it, i like big screens, but this is just bigger ).
I'm glad it runs so well (but i tried it in store and it didn't look so incredibly smooth, i hope it was due to idiots who mess up everything with their sticky hands ), but i hope to see some customization soon (not only custom samsung roms, that are indeed kinda pointless, but cyano, miui, and hopefully mods of these two roms, deeply modified kernels and so on...ICS )
I have to kind of agree, I really see no reason to put a custom rom on the note, everything just works. I wouldn't mind some themes for when things get a little stale but don't really see a need for a rom.
I have been flashing Roms since 2005. The ONLY reason I would not installed a custom rom is the fear of losing the warranty. But since even that is not a problem usually now, I see no reason why not flashing a custom rom..
E.g: Some people want's to modify their cars, other not.. We respect everyone's opinion(if within reason) and preferences.
BUT: The option to have a Custom Kernel/ROM made by our skilled developers here for performance/optimization, stability and longer battery life and customizations? I would take that every time over the stock..
Any 10.1 Devs willing to help out the 7.0 Plus forum? We're hurting on dev and could really use some of you. Anyone?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1426
aaronuser said:
Any 10.1 Devs willing to help out the 7.0 Plus forum? We're hurting on dev and could really use some of you. Anyone?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1426
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Most devs don't develop for a device they don't own.. Maybe start a thread in the 7.0 Plus area asking if someone has one to donate and / or raise cash to buy a dev one..
We are pretty lucky with the 10.1 as we have some of the best devs on XDA here..
I know a few devs were tempted by the 7 Plus (an Exynos Tab? Sounds great! At least at first) but then were turned off by the AR6000 driver source code fiasco.
A closed-source binary module that has been identified to be the root of documented stability problems for a device is a developer's nightmare, and a great way to completely kill its desirability for a developer.
I was considering the 7 Plus, but the AR6000 driver mess made me decide to wait for a device that Samsung didn't **** up.
Not like I'd be much benefit - you already have a very good kernel developer and I've given him a whole pile of pointers.
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I know a few devs were tempted by the 7 Plus (an Exynos Tab? Sounds great! At least at first) but then were turned off by the AR6000 driver source code fiasco.
A closed-source binary module that has been identified to be the root of documented stability problems for a device is a developer's nightmare, and a great way to completely kill its desirability for a developer.
I was considering the 7 Plus, but the AR6000 driver mess made me decide to wait for a device that Samsung didn't **** up.
Not like I'd be much benefit - you already have a very good kernel developer and I've given him a whole pile of pointers.
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Greatly appreciate your help. I personally own a 10.1 but purchased a 7+ as well for a custom vehicle install.
I understand DEV's don't normally dev on a device they don't have. But it does happen...quite a bit on some devices. Just trying to wrussle up some love is all.
Thank guys
The ability to do blind development is highly dependent on how similar a device is to one the developer owns.
For example, I finally started blind developing I9100 kernels because the difference is incredibly small and you can compile for both I9100 and I777 with just one defconfig change.
The Tab 7 Plus is completely and totally different from anything else out there, and the presence of closed-source modules makes blind development nearly impossible even if there were similar hardware.
Hello.
I am currently debating wether or not I should get an Oppo Find 5. As far as I have understood the phone is kind of open to develop for. I guess you people that have one has a better understandning of the situation.
What are your predictions on the phone running future versions of Android? Will it be possible to develop a KitKat rom for the phone? I've heard a lot of people complaining about the software in the phone but I really don't care as long as a relatively clean rom such as AOSP/AOKP is available.
As far as I've understood many Samsung phones for example have been a pain to develop for because of the locked down Exynos? Are there any such problems with the Oppo? Such as Oppo or Qualcomm have the phone locked down in some way? I always believe in the community but I don't like when we have to depend on the manufacturers.
Regards.
Masssy said:
Hello.
I am currently debating wether or not I should get an Oppo Find 5. As far as I have understood the phone is kind of open to develop for. I guess you people that have one has a better understandning of the situation.
What are your predictions on the phone running future versions of Android? Will it be possible to develop a KitKat rom for the phone? I've heard a lot of people complaining about the software in the phone but I really don't care as long as a relatively clean rom such as AOSP/AOKP is available.
As far as I've understood many Samsung phones for example have been a pain to develop for because of the locked down Exynos? Are there any such problems with the Oppo? Such as Oppo or Qualcomm have the phone locked down in some way? I always believe in the community but I don't like when we have to depend on the manufacturers.
Regards.
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Next version of android will for sure also come to this phone. Codefirex has a android 4.3 ROM even with a pure aosp function in it, so yes there is also an aosp rom for find 5 and it shouldn't depend on oppo if a custom 4.4 version is coming or not
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Well as we all know our tabs 4s have been. Left out in the cold, without many of the roms available even on the prehistoric devices.
I suggest as tab 4 users, let us unite and collaborate on building, testing and modifying at least one stock android room (cm11 or cm12 style, in other words, no touchwiz) or we work on modifying/porting a nice touchwiz rom to our beautiful devices.
I'm no pro or developer but have decent knowledge on roms and would love to hear feedback on my suggestion from the tab 4 community
I would try but I don't have the time or the tools on my computer to even try this. Anyone on this forum want to take a stab at this?
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ya. there doesnt seem to be much interest in this... I'll try look into it more myself and see what I can do
Hi, just wondering what's up. I'd kill for CM12 or 13 on my brand new a5 2016.. what gives?
thanks!
We waited more than a year for the A5 2015 edition to get roms, and there are only about 2 serious developers working on it. It is likely that you will get very little to zero support for your phone, even less if you have the Exynos variant. If you want big custom rom support, buy a flagship or a Nexus. That is the best thing you can do. And what I have realised is before you buy a new phone, first search the XDA forums to see which is more popular and which have the most support.
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We waited more than a year for the A5 2015 edition to get roms, and there are only about 2 serious developers working on it. It is likely that you will get very little to zero support for your phone, even less if you have the Exynos variant. If you want big custom rom support, buy a flagship or a Nexus. That is the best thing you can do. And what I have realised is before you buy a new phone, first search the XDA forums to see which is more popular and which have the most support.
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well... ****
Hey bro, I'm waiting too for any custom rom on my a3 2016, coz i'm getting sick of using laggy and bad looking touchwiz.
Please Devs, do smething for our devices....
I've always used CM or CM-based custom roms on all my phones, but (never thought I would say this) I'm quite liking TouchWiz. Everything works, no bugs. Good stock apps like calendar, camera and email. Theme engine is good enough. Unbelievable battery life.
Just root, install xposed, and you're good.
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I've always used CM or CM-based custom roms on all my phones, but (never thought I would say this) I'm quite liking TouchWiz. Everything works, no bugs. Good stock apps like calendar, camera and email. Theme engine is good enough. Unbelievable battery life.
Just root, install xposed, and you're good.
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:good: Absolutely right! And if you don't like TouchWiz you can use other launchers ... - I think the A5 is one of the best phones I ever bought and do not see the need to use a custom rom.
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:good: Absolutely right! And if you don't like TouchWiz you can use other launchers ... - I think the A5 is one of the best phones I ever bought and do not see the need to use a custom rom.
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agree. I have used kf rom for several weeks . but now back to the stock rom
You can port CM by yourself. There are a lot of porting guides on the internet, but... there aren't developers because there aren't much people with that device, maybe later there will be some developer with that phone or maybe not. As jnvdh06 said u have to buy a nexus if you want lots of roms, because google release all sources