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Future of the Q?

Hi,
I wondering why there was no announcement about the Q yesterday.
Didn't they want to overwork it? I am a little bit disappointed because a Q would be a great Device to connect my nexus devices with my TV.
Hopefully they work on it at the moment and release many Q´s with the next announcement.
Best Regards
Tobias

hoeffel-t said:
Hi,
I wondering why there was no announcement about the Q yesterday.
Didn't they want to overwork it? I am a little bit disappointed because a Q would be a great Device to connect my nexus devices with my TV.
Hopefully they work on it at the moment and release many Q´s with the next announcement.
Best Regards
Tobias
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seeing how the nexus q isn't even on the android page anymore, its likely that any further development will be from the community..

what..
animal24 said:
seeing how the nexus q isn't even on the android page anymore, its likely that any further development will be from the community..
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I hope they haven't abandoned it. I thought it would be very popular. I was gonna buy one, maybe two or three for the house. Why would/are Google drop/ping it?

Fallon9111 said:
I hope they haven't abandoned it. I thought it would be very popular. I was gonna buy one, maybe two or three for the house. Why would/are Google drop/ping it?
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I have 2, wanting two more and I wish it would take off, but early reviews said for $300 it should do a lot more. If they could talk amazon into supporting it it could take off. Netflix would be happy to support. They already have remote/server capability. We shall see. I just want it to do that seamless playback they showed off at io.

Haven't see it mentioned elsewhere so consider it unverified.
RIP, Google Nexus Q (UPDATED)

Good point. His second update, the response from Google, seems to suggest that it is still considered a delay. Maybe Christmas? I dunno. I may start playing with your rom.

Hopefully with the release of the Nexus 10 and 4 tomorrow, they can implement some type of miracast support, where the Q will function as the miracast dongle for those devices.

So instead of this, at least with youtube, googletv now does what the Q does. Youtube update

Actually, I wouldn't be all too surprised to see that el Goog is tending to shift more towards Google TV than Nexus Q.
The Nexus Q is a very unique piece of hardware but it might be that the general public find it a bit difficult to embrace the Q compared to the Google TV which brings another, I would dare say more complete, Android experience.
I'm an owner of the Q myself and I must say I totally dig this extraordinary piece of hardware but it's getting a lot less love from Google than I would have wished.
It's hard enough to get the app for a mobile device here in Sweden (could someone please verify that 1.0.8.393535 is the latest version of the app?) and the very limited services (youtube and music are the only ones I've been able to use so far) makes it a very limited device to use.
I'm a fan of unlocked Android devices and a lot of the Nexus series have been delivering what I would expect. I just get a feeling that Google is shifting resources to other areas other than the Q. But I would really like to be proven wrong.

jonahs said:
Actually, I wouldn't be all too surprised to see that el Goog is tending to shift more towards Google TV than Nexus Q.
The Nexus Q is a very unique piece of hardware but it might be that the general public find it a bit difficult to embrace the Q compared to the Google TV which brings another, I would dare say more complete, Android experience.
I'm an owner of the Q myself and I must say I totally dig this extraordinary piece of hardware but it's getting a lot less love from Google than I would have wished.
It's hard enough to get the app for a mobile device here in Sweden (could someone please verify that 1.0.8.393535 is the latest version of the app?) and the very limited services (youtube and music are the only ones I've been able to use so far) makes it a very limited device to use.
I'm a fan of unlocked Android devices and a lot of the Nexus series have been delivering what I would expect. I just get a feeling that Google is shifting resources to other areas other than the Q. But I would really like to be proven wrong.
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Google needs to be global with android. Its used globally. Good point.
The latest rev of the app is 1.0.8.406084 . I'll backup and root and try to get you the .all tomorrow.
Its funny that you say "only YouTube and music. " the only other service you get state side is movies.
Have you checked to see if you have the latest q software installed? ian67k?

Merry Christmas, how's the weather across the pond?

animal24 said:
Merry Christmas, how's the weather across the pond?
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Ah, thank you very much for this animal24, much appreciated. I'll verify the Nexus Q firmware version as well, that's a very good point.
It's starting to look like winter over here. It's been snowing practically all day and I'd say there are about 10cm on the ground.
Someone even went so far as to start celebrating New Year's by shooting firecrackers out on the yard.

From happy but unsatisfied 1+x owner

Hi folks, let me get one thing out of the way: I have a 1+x and I love it.
But reading what people post on xda and on the oneplus forum makes me wonder: since when have we become so happy with unfinished products?
I constantly hear "yes, but they'll fix it soon" or "yes, but think about the price". I understand that we paid little for the phone compared to other brands, but we paid little because of the specs, not because of an unfinished software which needs to be updated over and over again.
And don't give me a "well, then you shouldn't have bought it" because it's not like when you ordered it, they inform you about the software bugs.
With the phone that will be used for 1 or max. 2 years, waiting some months to get the basic bugs fixed is an eternity. Also, that the company is young doesn't really matter, I rather have them do better testing, wait one month longer and pay a little bit more for a fully working product than having to wait for something that is supposed to work from the beginning.
As I said before, I don't regret buying the 1+x, I'm just trying to understand why we as the consumer lowered our expectations and accept to pay the full price for an unfinished product (me included) when instead we should get very angry at the producer and I really don't like the companies going like "the product doesn't really work as it's supposed to, but we can start selling it anyway and fix it afterwards". And why does this only apply to smartphones?
Imagine buying a car where you can't switch on the windscreen wiper, "don't worry, they'll fix it with the next onboard-computer update", or a microwave oven that doesn't have a timer function "but don't worry, that will be fixed soon", who would go for that?

Some interesting points made, but also nothing specific mentioned about the X and an irrelevant comparison against the car industry, or if you must compare, then pick something like built in Sat Navs which are ludicrously expensive and rarely updated ( or at least for a reasonable cost). Current car is the first car in 10 years i have owned where the updates are free and available when I want. But even so, I can download a free app that does much of what my expensive sat nav does and sometimes more.
The whole technological world has conditioned us to be satisfied with poor products for years and arguably Apple did a lot to improve things for all of us. I have not owned a single device of any nature where I have not cursed the makers for some omission that seems important to me, or failure to update the software or some inherent bug. Couple that with the throw away culture of those of who who have the luxury to do so and you have the current state.
So what are you referring to with regard to the x that is not working and waiting for a bug fix?
As you say these devices have a very short shelf life and an equally short design, prototype, build, test period. With an open platform and variety of hardware options, issues are inevitable and Windows did a good job of conditioning us to that.

charliebigpot said:
Hi folks, let me get one thing out of the way: I have a 1+x and I love it.
But reading what people post on xda and on the oneplus forum makes me wonder: since when have we become so happy with unfinished products?
I constantly hear "yes, but they'll fix it soon" or "yes, but think about the price". I understand that we paid little for the phone compared to other brands, but we paid little because of the specs, not because of an unfinished software which needs to be updated over and over again.
And don't give me a "well, then you shouldn't have bought it" because it's not like when you ordered it, they inform you about the software bugs.
With the phone that will be used for 1 or max. 2 years, waiting some months to get the basic bugs fixed is an eternity. Also, that the company is young doesn't really matter, I rather have them do better testing, wait one month longer and pay a little bit more for a fully working product than having to wait for something that is supposed to work from the beginning.
As I said before, I don't regret buying the 1+x, I'm just trying to understand why we as the consumer lowered our expectations and accept to pay the full price for an unfinished product (me included) when instead we should get very angry at the producer and I really don't like the companies going like "the product doesn't really work as it's supposed to, but we can start selling it anyway and fix it afterwards". And why does this only apply to smartphones?
Imagine buying a car where you can't switch on the windscreen wiper, "don't worry, they'll fix it with the next onboard-computer update", or a microwave oven that doesn't have a timer function "but don't worry, that will be fixed soon", who would go for that?
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Your're right, but I think the main problem is Android.
Everyone who is going to buy an Android is going to be a beta tester. None of the phones I've had was stable. Every phone had problems.
Oneplus must fix the main problems, but if the base isn't bugless, we can't expect that Oneplus or other producers can make a software totally free of bugs. (Ex. LP is one of the worst versions of Android, even if one the most looking version).

You guys are right! But i m still happy
I bought the opx seeing its spces, i knew oxygen os wil be a problem but still i got it becoz i knew that theres gona be a ton of roms for this phone!
But i believe its bad of oneplus ,to not provide a well finished(stable) software!

Totally agree with many of you guys. Dropped some "likes" here and there.
Really, waiting for some serious custom juice to flow soon. [emoji16]

So what are the problems? What doesn't work? Mine will be delivered today. Guess I am asking this a little late.

Well I can give you more relative comparison. I have both the base models of the Alcatel idol 3 5.5 and the zenfone 2 2gb variant and both perform pretty much rock solid. The idol 3 does have some lagging here and there but that is known with the 615 chipset. However all major functionality works on both phones. Asus as been pushing out refinement updates about every 3 weeks and marshmallow is due out very soon. Both phones are under 250 and with the holidays around you can probably get them in the sub 200 USD range. We could make the argument that these companies are much bigger and have been around the game longer. But we also must remember that this is OPs 3rd phone now. And that OP is run by a bunch of ex OPPO executives. To top that off OP had major dealings with CM in the initial OPO and borched software and updates. They simply have not learned and continue to throw out half baked cheap products. Forcing their customers into a "wait and pray it gets better mindset".
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bricky23 said:
So what are the problems? What doesn't work? Mine will be delivered today. Guess I am asking this a little late.
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Everything works, but there are some problems:
- proximity sensor too lazy when you are calling.
- light sensor lazy
- vibration soft
These are for the most annoying problems

Your points are solid. I wholeheartedly agree

To be honest I didn't have any problems. After one OTA the SD card wasn't visible in the System settings, but, at least for me, it was accessible. Since the last OTA this is restored, and there's also App to SD functionality.

Tbh, based on a whole lot of other devices that I've used, the response to fix even the tiniest of niggles has been pretty stunning.
There are so many devices out there with software issues that are never resolved by OEMs. Also, I've not seen a single major hitch in the software. The SD card issue was only a visual one, from what I know, and the update before that was a generic update to improve the camera app and some performance enhancements. I'd say it's good that the OEM is releasing timely fixes rater than letting the issues stagnate.

i dont get it
they cud have easily have given maxxaudio with opx but they didnt and as a result the audio output is not upto the mark
i am dissapointed with this
the stock equalizer sucks big time

Android is too fragmented to expect a flawless experience. Hardware is too widely varied and the manufacturers push for new devices too quickly for the fine tuning to ever happen. If Android controlled the hardware like Apple does , you could see polish and refinement. Too many models, too many updates, many issues. It's easier to make it good enough and move on to the latest and greatest.
My OnePlus X should arrive early next week!
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coolasnju1993 said:
i dont get it
they cud have easily have given maxxaudio with opx but they didnt and as a result the audio output is not upto the mark
i am dissapointed with this
the stock equalizer sucks big time
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Really? The OnePlus X is (for some strange reason) one of the first devices to use the Ultrasound Driver from CAF. It's not about the equalizer, mate. The audio output from the headphone jack is incredible, and IMO you need new headphones if you think this is bad.

Quasar said:
Really? The OnePlus X is (for some strange reason) one of the first devices to use the Ultrasound Driver from CAF. It's not about the equalizer, mate. The audio output from the headphone jack is incredible, and IMO you need new headphones if you think this is bad.
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I use apple earpods and its still not good I guess I need to change my earphones :|

coolasnju1993 said:
I use apple earpods and its still not good I guess I need to change my earphones :|
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Yep you do.

Quasar said:
Yep you do. [/]
nd from where did you come to know that onx uses ultrasound sound drivers from caf??
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coolasnju1993 said:
nd from where did you come to know that onx uses ultrasound sound drivers from caf??
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From the vendor blobs.

coolasnju1993 said:
I use apple earpods and its still not good I guess I need to change my earphones :|
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Dude apple earpods are the suckiest pair money can buy. If you love your music, buy new ones. Btw I got Brainwavz m2 and they are awesome
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Quasar said:
Tbh, based on a whole lot of other devices that I've used, the response to fix even the tiniest of niggles has been pretty stunning.
There are so many devices out there with software issues that are never resolved by OEMs. Also, I've not seen a single major hitch in the software. The SD card issue was only a visual one, from what I know, and the update before that was a generic update to improve the camera app and some performance enhancements. I'd say it's good that the OEM is releasing timely fixes rater than letting the issues stagnate.
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Yes, indeed they are fast in fixing issues, but 1) we're talking about OOS specific bugs and 2) we're still talking about weeks, potentially months before it's all fixed. They definitely listen more to the users than other companies, but just today, I updated to the latest OOS version and suddenly there is lag when scrolling in the browser (NBPro, when swiping up/down it literally stops after just some millimeters) and the display seems less reactive in general, especially when using gestures on the lockscreen.
I've read about the same issues here on xda and on the oneplus forum and yes, maybe I can solve it by wiping or resetting, but I don't want to have to do that and spend more time than necessary on it, I didn't sign up to be a beta-tester for OOS.
Again, I'm happy I bought it and I will be patient (CM is close..) but it feels that with each update they fix some issues but create some new ones.
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The SD card issue was only a visual one,"
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That might be true, but as a customer I expect 100% perfect device since I paid 100% of the price.

Nexus 9 won’t be updated to Android 7.1.2 Nougat

I read google will not update NEXUS 9 to the next version of Android.
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-6-9-nougat-746286/

Too bad, but they told us in the beginning: Guarandeed updates untill Oct. 2016.
We're lucky that some smart Devs here can cook Custom ROMS for us.

Our two years of main updates are over.
So it's not surprising... So back to AOSP/LOS no problem.
The sad thing is we probably won't get our audio fix.

I am sad they have gave up not to bad with phones as I tend to get a new one with every contract but being as all new android tablets have been canned pretty much I hoped they would keep this one up to date. Looks like I'll be rooting

RIP and I just bought my Nexus 9, receive it today lol.. At least they got it to 7.1.1 which is substantial.
Google really has no other tablet, other than the Pixel C now. Nexus 9 is still a very strong contender in the Tablet world, nothing out IMHO worth the $$ to make a difference. Would love to see a 8.9" Pixel C2.

maybe all is not lost and Google will launch the second wave beta confirmed
and come on, why NP receive? just because is android tv?!

Well I received mine last week lol, thanks for the Open Source community that do their best to keep our devices alive, far from being outdated like the big companies wants us to believe.

Wonder if someone is going to make a 7.1.2 ROM and higher

USBhost said:
Our two years of main updates are over.
So it's not surprising... So back to AOSP/LOS no problem.
The sad thing is we probably won't get our audio fix.
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I'm sorry to hijack this thread, but what do you mean by audio fix?

iNaruX said:
I'm sorry to hijack this thread, but what do you mean by audio fix?
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Android 7.1.1 came with a nasty surprise, we got bad audio aka low bass and volume.
PS. Good anime !
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@Super-Veloce you bet I will!

Urgh.....
I just did a clean install of stock android 7 and this thing is so slow it hurts.
It takes like 5 seconds for the keyboard to appear in chrome. This is a fresh install of Android 7 stock.
I thought the fresh install would speed things up. I am so sad.
But maybe it's a sign that our devices are just getting too old

Macmee said:
Urgh.....
I just did a clean install of stock android 7 and this thing is so slow it hurts.
It takes like 5 seconds for the keyboard to appear in chrome. This is a fresh install of Android 7 stock.
I thought the fresh install would speed things up. I am so sad.
But maybe it's a sign that our devices are just getting too old
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Yeah... Stock Android is definitely running into issues... I'm running Lineage OS and it runs well now! It's still got life! No worries!

champ784 said:
Yeah... Stock Android is definitely running into issues... I'm running Lineage OS and it runs well now! It's still got life! No worries!
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I thought that was in alpha for the N9

Macmee said:
I thought that was in alpha for the N9
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It is... And it still runs better than stock! Just saying!

Macmee said:
Urgh.....
It takes like 5 seconds for the keyboard to appear in chrome. This is a fresh install of Android 7 stock.
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I had the same issue. I finally resolved it by performing a factory reset - it seems to format the data partition and thus resolv any corruption on the file system.
Now my N9 is back to 7.1.1 and runs smothly again.

champ784 said:
It is... And it still runs better than stock! Just saying!
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Where can i download the alpha? Or is it the unofficial you're talking about?

Marky__Mark said:
Where can i download the alpha? Or is it the unofficial you're talking about?
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It's the unofficial

I have seen other Google devices get better with the software updates after release, but the Nexus 9 is an exception. Like they never could fully get a handle on the SoC and memory management. They've given up.
Thankfully the community stepped in with wonderful kernel work among other things. The Nexus 7 has also benefitted greatly from community support. If I was in the market for a tablet that's not officially supported I'd go that way instead. Less likely to get a lemon IMHO.

kyyummy said:
I have seen other Google devices get better with the software updates after release, but the Nexus 9 is an exception. Like they never could fully get a handle on the SoC and memory management. They've given up.
Thankfully the community stepped in with wonderful kernel work among other things. The Nexus 7 has also benefitted greatly from community support. If I was in the market for a tablet that's not officially supported I'd go that way instead. Less likely to get a lemon IMHO.
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The Nexus 9 certainly has the power even with stock, mine has 6 or 7 different user accounts for managing family members games on it, it stutters a bit every so often but it's quite stunning that it can handle that, the tegra chipset is unparalleled and I believe it's been chosen for the new Nintendo Switch.

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The Nexus 9 certainly has the power even with stock, mine has 6 or 7 different user accounts for managing family members games on it, it stutters a bit every so often but it's quite stunning that it can handle that, the tegra chipset is unparalleled and I believe it's been chosen for the new Nintendo Switch.
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I have the feeling that there must be different versions of the Nexus 9 in the wild. My Nexus 9 is so sluggish that I only use it to read ebooks. If I wipe it it's ok, for a couple of hours/days and then it gets slow again. The next thing I'll try is disabling the FS-encryption but if that solves anything why did Google enforce that in the first place?
I don't understand how people say "it has the power even with stock" and state "it stutters a bit every so often" just a couple of words later. It either is powerful and delivers a consistent performance or it isn't.

Completely misleading Android one program / Feedback hub app

I'm beginning to feel completely misled about the Android 1 program. December and still no Oreo, I was thinking of a Pure Android with instant first in line updates to the latest software, similar to the Nexus and Pixel phones. My friend with an old One plus 3 received Oreo in Early November.
Also, this is not pure android. It's preloaded with Miu junkware.
Of particular interest is the feedback hub app. Is this a Google or Miu App? I thought the latter and there is no way to remove it from the phone.
I Bought this for the pure android experience and instant updates, but there are better tech/price handsets out there in this price range with decent battery and better screen/chips.
New buyers proceed with a little caution.

What other devices with Pure Android, instant first in line updates and better tech/price handsets at this price range with decent battery and better screen/chips are you reffering to?
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1. Xiaomi promised Oreo by the end of the year. The beta has already rolled out. And will soon be released as promised. I don't see how that's a problem.
2. There's literally no junk in this phone I don't know what you're talking about.. miremote? How else you're gonna use that IR blaster. And micamera app because stock also camera doesn't support xiaomi's dual camera setup. And finally mi feedback.. you should be grateful that they are trying to listen to their customers..
3. OnePlus 3 is also double the price of mi A1. You can't expect flagship phone with on a potato price.
4. Kindly list those phones with better tech screen and 'chips' (lays?) Closest phone with similar spec is Moto g5s plus which costs ₹2000 more than A1. Others don't even have specs remotely close to this one and costs close to ₹20000.

I was was referring to phones that do not have pure Android.
Android One on the Mi A1 is not pure Android either.
My point is you may as well buy another phone because this is not a true pure Android experience. Don't be fooled.

surajsun22 said:
1. Xiaomi promised Oreo by the end of the year. The beta has already rolled out. And will soon be released as promised. I don't see how that's a problem.
2. There's literally no junk in this phone I don't know what you're talking about.. miremote? How else you're gonna use that IR blaster. And micamera app because stock also camera doesn't support xiaomi's dual camera setup. And finally mi feedback.. you should be grateful that they are trying to listen to their customers..
3. OnePlus 3 is also double the price of mi A1. You can't expect flagship phone with on a potato price.
4. Kindly list those phones with better tech screen and 'chips' (lays?) Closest phone with similar spec is Moto g5s plus which costs ₹2000 more than A1. Others don't even have specs remotely close to this one and costs close to ₹20000.
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You really expose yourself here as a deluded fanboy. My point is the one plus 3 does not have pure android but was updated months ago. Unremovable feedback app points to doctored software and therefore is not pure. THIS IS NOT A PURE ANDROID PHONE. FACT.
There are plenty of better spec Chinese built phones in this range. Do yourself a favour and have a quick browse on gearbest. I know you want to protect your investment by convincing yourself it's great but it really isn't. IR blaster is virtually useless in the modern world and is a cheap replacement for lack of NFC.

This IS pure Android. Having 1 or 2 pre-installed apps doesn't mean it's not pure Android. Name one phone with pure Android except nexus and pixel.
You mean I should rather buy a phone with half hd screen, an older SoC with a single camera which costs more than a1? Even if we consider for a second that it's not pure Android in A1 ( which it is).. its still a great phone and no other phone comes close to this phone in terms of price/spec ratio.

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This IS pure Android. Having 1 or 2 pre-installed apps doesn't mean it's not pure Android. Name one phone with pure Android except nexus and pixel.
You mean I should rather buy a phone with half hd screen, an older SoC with a single camera which costs more than a1? Even if we consider for a second that it's not pure Android in A1 ( which it is).. its still a great phone and no other phone comes close to this phone in terms of price/spec ratio.
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Your really not getting this are you.
PURE.
The camera is rubbish. There are much better single cameras out there. The 'optical zoom' is a joke.
Yes it is still a good phone but the chip is very old now and there are plenty of other options.

pow01 said:
You really expose yourself here as a deluded fanboy. My point is the one plus 3 does not have pure android but was updated months ago. Unremovable feedback app points to doctored software and therefore is not pure. THIS IS NOT A PURE ANDROID PHONE. FACT.
There are plenty of better spec Chinese built phones in this range. Do yourself a favour and have a quick browse on gearbest. I know you want to protect your investment by convincing yourself it's great but it really isn't. IR blaster is virtually useless in the modern world and is a cheap replacement for lack of NFC.
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My argument still stands.. they promised Oreo BY THE END OF THE YEAR. Is it January yet? It's not like you got cheated or something.
The is just installed as system app it doesn't mean the OS itself is doctored.. please go and learn about Android before spreading your ignorance.
So you would rather buy a Chinese trash phone with cr*p mediatek processors with no guarantee on its quality than this phone which comes from a decent company.
Lastly NFC is just novelty in the region where A1 is supposed to be sold. Unlike IR blaster which many people make use of.
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pow01 said:
Your really not getting this are you.
PURE.
The camera is rubbish. There are much better single cameras out there. The 'optical zoom' is a joke.
Yes it is still a good phone but the chip is very old now and there are plenty of other options.
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Camera is rubbish? Are you high on something?
You are constantly saying there are plenty other options .. kindly name those options or we're done here..
Have a good day.

surajsun22 said:
My argument still stands.. they promised Oreo BY THE END OF THE YEAR. Is it January yet? It's not like you got cheated or something.
The is just installed as system app it doesn't mean the OS itself is doctored.. please go and learn about Android
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If it's installed on the system and you cannot remove it, then it is considered bloatware and the operating system has been doctored.
It is not a pure Android phone. I'm sure there is a thread already that exposes this project as a joint Xiaomi/Google project but run by Xiaomi. Your right about one thing...I should have done a little research into the so called Android One project.
Plenty of >Snapdragon chip phones out there in this price bracket I know it and so do you so stop pretending. And don't talk about power efficiency, that's why you pack a 4000+ battery!

pow01 said:
I'm beginning to feel completely misled about the Android 1 program. December and still no Oreo, I was thinking of a Pure Android with instant first in line updates to the latest software, similar to the Nexus and Pixel phones. My friend with an old One plus 3 received Oreo in Early November.
Also, this is not pure android. It's preloaded with Miu junkware.
Of particular interest is the feedback hub app. Is this a Google or Miu App? I thought the latter and there is no way to remove it from the phone.
I Bought this for the pure android experience and instant updates, but there are better tech/price handsets out there in this price range with decent battery and better screen/chips.
New buyers proceed with a little caution.
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You obviously aren't satisfied with the choice you made, so..sell the phone, buy "better phone in this price range", be happy. It's really as simple as that.
If you really believe that you have been lied to by Xiaomi, there are legal options which you can take. Search Google for legal services in your area, they'll be happy to discuss this point with you.

surajsun22 said:
Camera is rubbish? Are you high on something?
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Yes, it's really bad. The front facing camera is terrible and the pixelation on the rear is really bad. Forget about night time. And I was coming from a Nexus 5.
Which phone did you own previously?

_mysiak_ said:
You obviously aren't satisfied with the choice you made, so..sell the phone, buy "better phone in this price range", be happy. It's really as simple as that.
If you really believe that you have been lied to by Xiaomi, there are legal options which you can take. Search Google for legal services in your area, they'll be happy to discuss this point with you.
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Another bitter poster who is protecting his investment furiously rather than admitting it's shortcomings.
I did not say I had been lied to and I am fully aware of how to use Google search. But if you really think this matter requires me to seek legal assistance you really are a bit special.
What I am freely admitting is that I should have done more research on the Android One project as it is not what I thought it was. My bad and I learn from my mistakes.

Use a nexus device & u can instantly understand the difference.. Android one programs supposed to have faster updates & be more stable.. A1 is just a half hearted effort from Mi.. Bugs, bugs and more bugs.. Awesome hardware, but crap software.. And android one program is supposed to have os updates pushed by Google..
If u have used a nexus phone, u 'll know how soon they address bugs.. I used Nexus 5 & the first version of kitkat had a vdo recording problem.. It was addressed in just a matter of days.. The contact linking issue has not been addressed even after four or five updates..

That being said if it was just marketed as a Mi phone with Stock os it wud have been alright.. Its value for money.. But it doesnt do justice to the android one tag..

neojith said:
That being said if it was just marketed as a Mi phone with Stock os it wud have been alright.. Its value for money.. But it doesnt do justice to the android one tag..
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This is what I thought I had bought into. A Mi phone with stock OS.
I was mistaken and should haved looked a little deeper into it. As you said before, this is not even close to a Nexus/stock android experience.

@pow01 : ha ha.. i thought i was the only one coming from nexus 5.. oreo feedback seems to be good.. lets wait & see..
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This forum is full of ****ing retards. They promised Ored by END OF THE YEAR and its still ****ing december and u STILL ****ING COMPLAIN. And just because it has 2 Xiaomi apps doesn't mean its not stock Android. Bloody fools. You complain about fcking everything.
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Bro.. Use a nexus device & u'll know the difference.. its not just about oreo.. the stutters, microlags, freezes, contact linking issue.. its frustrating.. if u have experienced android at its purest, u'd b swearing at Mi right now.. Nexus in marshmallow is still loads better than A1 with nougat..
For nexus fans, when Mi announced the Android one program it was a dream come true.. Mi is known for its vfm hardware.. Stock google os should be flying on this device.. not micro stuttering like on A1..
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santr33 said:
This forum is full of ****ing retards. They promised Ored by END OF THE YEAR and its still ****ing december and u STILL ****ING COMPLAIN. And just because it has 2 Xiaomi apps doesn't mean its not stock Android. Bloody fools. You complain about fcking everything.
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Bro.. Use a nexus device & u'll know the difference.. its not just about oreo.. the stutters, microlags, freezes, contact linking issue.. its frustrating.. if u have experienced android at its purest, u'd b swearing at Mi right now.. Nexus in marshmallow is still loads better than A1 with nougat..
For nexus fans, when Mi announced the Android one program it was a dream come true.. Mi is known for its vfm hardware.. Stock google os should be flying on this device.. not micro stuttering like on A1..

I came from Nexus 5X and yes, I feel the difference. I have snappier phone which keeps more apps in memory without closing them immediately during multitasking, I'm not experiencing unfinished HDR photos now, etc... I still receive monthly security updates and actually am happy that my device is not the very first one receiving major OS upgrade, as it often breaks many things (TWRP, root, not updated apps). So I'll rather wait couple of weeks or months until all developers catch up and I can continue using my device without hiccups.
I bought phones which I wasn't happy with in the past and guess what, I sold them and purchased something else. But if you feel that posting on forums that you made a mistake is the right way how to solve your problem..well.. be my guest, though not sure how is it supposed to help others.

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I came from Nexus 5X and yes, I feel the difference. I have snappier phone which keeps more apps in memory without closing them immediately during multitasking, I'm not experiencing unfinished HDR photos now, etc... I still receive monthly security updates and actually am happy that my device is not the very first one receiving major OS upgrade, as it often breaks many things (TWRP, root, not updated apps). So I'll rather wait couple of weeks or months until all developers catch up and I can continue using my device without hiccups.
I bought phones which I wasn't happy with in the past and guess what, I sold them and purchased something else. But if you feel that posting on forums that you made a mistake is the right way how to solve your problem..well.. be my guest, though not sure how is it supposed to help others.
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The camera on my Nexus 5 was better than the Mi A1 producing far superior images. I'm not looking to solve my problem I'm just happy to make others aware this is not a stock android experience. What I'm posting is valuable feedback for those thinking about buying one of these devices.
The bottom line is everything has to run through Beijing first before being released rather than coming straight from San Francisco.
I am happy with the phone and VFM (but it's no Nexus)
I am not happy with the way Xiaomi is executing Android One.

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Your really not getting this are you.
PURE.
The camera is rubbish. There are much better single cameras out there. The 'optical zoom' is a joke.
Yes it is still a good phone but the chip is very old now and there are plenty of other options.
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The "very old" chip is based on 14 nm technology, how are you calling it old? Sure, its not the most cutting edge, but it fares well when it comes to daily usage.
And yeah, having other camera apps surely would help. I think Mi camera app sharpens up the image a bit more.
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Bro.. Use a nexus device & u'll know the difference.. its not just about oreo.. the stutters, microlags, freezes, contact linking issue.. its frustrating.. if u have experienced android at its purest, u'd b swearing at Mi right now.. Nexus in marshmallow is still loads better than A1 with nougat..
For nexus fans, when Mi announced the Android one program it was a dream come true.. Mi is known for its vfm hardware.. Stock google os should be flying on this device.. not micro stuttering like on A1..
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You are right. I tried using Google Live Wallpaper on my A1, and it made the whole phone slow! Opening app drawer/jumping to home page, etc felt slower and laggy.
Funny thing is, I was using the same wallpaper on my Redmi 2s. It ran on that phone PERFECTLY FINE!!! No lags, no stutters, and no loss in battery life!! Sure, Redmi 2s has a 720p screen, and I could tell that the animations set to a lower resolution, but I'm disappointed that Mi A1 stutters with such beautiful wallpapers.
Get yo **** together, Xiaomi. Give Mi A1 the Android it deserves.
And to people who are *****ing that it isn't the stockest stockesty android, calm yo tits. It comes very close to Nexus levels stock, save a few apps. But still wish they had included Night Light tho.

Ah, now I see. This explains pretty much everything: "I'm not looking to solve my problem"
"this is not a stock android experience", which is only your opinion. As far I see this is stock android with very similar experience to Nexus devices with the same or better user experience. Obviously we don't have to agree with each other, but as you certainly won't accept another opinion than yours and are not able to discuss politely..so.. Have fun bashing Xiaomi and Google with your utterly useful posts (oh sorry, "valuable feedback" as you call it ).

Samsung rom on 6p

Hello everybody,
I'm wondering if any samsung rom has ever been created for the Nexus 6p.
Tried to find it on xda and Google, but didnt find any.
Thanks

neeko92 said:
Hello everybody,
I'm wondering if any samsung rom has ever been created for the Nexus 6p.
Tried to find it on xda and Google, but didnt find any.
Thanks
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Will never happen just buy a Samsung ?

Exodusche said:
Will never happen just buy a Samsung ?
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Come on ! :crying: Just want to try the rom and then go back to pure android rom

neeko92 said:
Hello everybody,
I'm wondering if any samsung rom has ever been created for the Nexus 6p.
Tried to find it on xda and Google, but didnt find any.
Thanks
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You didn't find any because there are none and there never will be. There's a reason Samsung has nicknames like "Samdung" and "Samsuck", or why their horribly mutilated version of Android is known as "Touchjizz": it's absolute trash.
If you really want to try it, then do as the person above me suggested and pick up a cheap Samsung device off eBay or Swappa or something and use that. Or go to your local Verizon/AT&T/TMobile/Sprint store, Best Buy, etc and play with one they have on the showroom floor.

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You didn't find any because there are none and there never will be. There's a reason Samsung has nicknames like "Samdung" and "Samsuck", or why their horribly mutilated version of Android is known as "Touchjizz": it's absolute trash.
If you really want to try it, then do as the person above me suggested and pick up a cheap Samsung device off eBay or Swappa or something and use that. Or go to your local Verizon/AT&T/TMobile/Sprint store, Best Buy, etc and play with one they have on the showroom floor.
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Lol.
Touchcrap was king of lag for a long time but Android O seems to have done away with that. I've had hands on with a friend's s8+ before and after update. No more lag.
S9+ speakers are a step above our 6p sad to say. Although not front facing, they're loud, full and clear.
If I was going to upgrade, the S9+ pushes all the right buttons.

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Lol.
Touchcrap was king of lag for a long time but Android O seems to have done away with that. I've had hands on with a friend's s8+ before and after update. No more lag.
S9+ speakers are a step above our 6p sad to say. Although not front facing, they're loud, full and clear.
If I was going to upgrade, the S9+ pushes all the right buttons.
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To be fair, I haven't used Samsung phone since my old Note 4 back in 2014, so things may have improved since then, but I don't plan to go back. A locked bootloader, no root, and being stuck 2 Android versions behind everyone else turned me away from Samsung for life.
They do make very nice hardware, but I don't care. I almost never physically touch the actual phone since I always put my device in a plastic/rubber case. The phone could be made of plastic, glass, metal, or whatever, my phones always feel the same due to the case. I also use headphones 99% of the time, so the speakers don't matter much to me either.

Well, I've finally picked up an s9 and traded in my 6p. It's the only phone which I can really consider an upgrade. Sammy spent a year on the stereo speakers and it sounds as much. Quality loudness. It's a good time to pick up the s9 since sales aren't up to expectation. It's a refined s8 and you didn't sign up as a guinea pig first time round.

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Well, I've finally picked up an s9 and traded in my 6p. It's the only phone which I can really consider an upgrade. Sammy spent a year on the stereo speakers and it sounds as much. Quality loudness. It's a good time to pick up the s9 since sales aren't up to expectation. It's a refined s8 and you didn't sign up as a guinea pig first time round.
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well, great.. you picked up one... but do remember, stock is stock. Nothing can beat it. Plus theres very little development for samsung s9. I had an s8, thats why m saying this.... All the custom roms that you'll try will be based on touchwiz not aosp.

salim0786 said:
well, great.. you picked up one... but do remember, stock is stock. Nothing can beat it. Plus theres very little development for samsung s9. I had an s8, thats why m saying this.... All the custom roms that you'll try will be based on touchwiz not aosp.
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Going to take a break from unlocking and rooting. Hardly flashed any custom roms on 6P anyway. On stock most of the time. I only rooted for the sound mods and xposed. Sammy is like the iPhone of Android. Everything is done for you. I'm going to sit back and hopefully enjoy what their well paid engineers have cooked up. Cheers.

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Going to take a break from unlocking and rooting. Hardly flashed any custom roms on 6P anyway. On stock most of the time. I only rooted for the sound mods and xposed. Sammy is like the iPhone of Android. Everything is done for you. I'm going to sit back and hopefully enjoy what their well paid engineers have cooked up. Cheers.
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That's where you're wrong...... Samsung will start lagging in like 6 months where as stock vanilla ROM doesn't. And why the hell are you comparing Samsung experience to that of iOS smoothness. IOS runs smooth even after years whereas Samsung will not. I have friends who own an s8 and they complained of lagginess

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That's where you're wrong...... Samsung will start lagging in like 6 months where as stock vanilla ROM doesn't. And why the hell are you comparing Samsung experience to that of iOS smoothness. IOS runs smooth even after years whereas Samsung will not. I have friends who own an s8 and they complained of lagginess
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If you bothered to read what I wrote, I made the comparison based on the difficulty of unlocking and rooting a Samsung phone. Same as jailbreaking an iPhone i.e. they want you to use the phone as how they made it. I also have a friend who has an 8+ who says the lag has gone with Oreo update, something which I pointed out in my earlier post.
You heard about the deliberate slowing of older iPhones by apple on the pretext of improving their battery life?
I don't know what your disdain for Samsung is based on. It's not healthy.
This is my first Samsung phone. I'm not going to lose it if it doesn't suit me. I can always trade it in for something else.
It's only a phone. Get over it.

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If you bothered to read what I wrote, I made the comparison based on the difficulty of unlocking and rooting a Samsung phone. Same as jailbreaking an iPhone i.e. they want you to use the phone as how they made it. I also have a friend who has an 8+ who says the lag has gone with Oreo update, something which I pointed out in my earlier post.
You heard about the deliberate slowing of older iPhones by apple on the pretext of improving their battery life?
I don't know what your disdain for Samsung is based on. It's not healthy.
This is my first Samsung phone. I'm not going to lose it if it doesn't suit me. I can always trade it in for something else.
It's only a phone. Get over it.
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I dont hate samsung at all. Just saying that stock is always preferred. I meanvanilla android. I used s8 with oreo (before I sold it). And coming to unocking, its damn easy....... And coming to lagging, I know samsng has come a long way in that area but see the nexus is almost 3 years old and shows minmal lag (due to old hardware), can you say that about samsung? And ya the most beautiful phone in terms of aesthetics is made by Samsung (No one can deny that).
Coming to deliberate slowing of iphones, I heard that and their explaination is somewhat justified as you can have top notch performance and amazing battery life.
Whats the point of freedom of speech if you can't criticize something for their shortcomings

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I dont hate samsung at all. Just saying that stock is always preferred. I meanvanilla android. I used s8 with oreo (before I sold it). And coming to unocking, its damn easy....... And coming to lagging, I know samsng has come a long way in that area but see the nexus is almost 3 years old and shows minmal lag (due to old hardware), can you say that about samsung? And ya the most beautiful phone in terms of aesthetics is made by Samsung (No one can deny that).
Coming to deliberate slowing of iphones, I heard that and their explaination is somewhat justified as you can have top notch performance and amazing battery life.
Whats the point of freedom of speech if you can't criticize something for their shortcomings
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Watch what needs to be done to unlock and root. Not as easy as other phones.
https://youtu.be/g3IppGISkP0

tropical cactus said:
Watch what needs to be done to unlock and root. Not as easy as other phones.
https://youtu.be/g3IppGISkP0
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U watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-F4WbU8N80&t=155s
Its fairly easy, not as easy as stock but comparable

I cant even believe what i'm reading. Is this a joke thread or something?