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White Dots pattern in raw photos ZTE axon 7

Hi
Today I had an unpleasant surprise to shoot the first photos in Raw with the ZTE axon 7 and to discover a uniform pattern of white dots throughout the length of the photo ... anyone else has this?
Thanks
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The problem has been reported by other users or in official forums ZTE USA, so it is possible to think that this a very serious problem and could be a global hardware error of A7 ... May be this is the cause of the excessive processing of the JPG images of Axon 7.
Also, I also think that is why "camera2 API" does not Is available, which is why third-party camera applications can not be fully functional ...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z1aLNX3h6nmXcqIcQvjLAR8Bnwx5-dysXQ/view?usp=sharing

I've had this as well. Usually, I lower the ISO and it goes away.

What app is being used to take raw pictures?

Where is the raw setting? Was 7.1.1 not meant to provide raw files support?

front firing speakers said:
Where is the raw setting? Was 7.1.1 not meant to provide raw files support?
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Only on US variant.

gpz1100 said:
What app is being used to take raw pictures?
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Hi gpz1100... I am use the default camera app of ZTE Axon 7. Raw options are available in settings.
The pattern of white dots is clearly visible.

front firing speakers said:
Where is the raw setting? Was 7.1.1 not meant to provide raw files support?
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Hi front firing speakers... the Raw option is available in settings, in expert mode... Only on US variant (for the moment)

RainofOranges said:
I've had this as well. Usually, I lower the ISO and it goes away.
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Hi RainofOranges... In this case RAW photos show a sharp pattern of white dots. Like a rain or snow over the total surface of the image.
It is a very serious problem and may be a global hardware error of A7 ... Maybe this is the cause of the excessive processing of the JPG images of Axon 7.
Also, I also think that is why "camera2 API" does not Is available, which is why third-party camera applications can not be fully functional ...

You can see te original raw file in this link
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7ojY63Qx7YjRWwzS3BiNFZYTU0
I post screenshots from my RAW editor to show the problem
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aviladario said:
Hi gpz1100... I am use the default camera app of ZTE Axon 7. Raw options are available in settings.
The pattern of white dots is clearly visible.
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Can you post a screen shot or instructions on how to get raw mode enabled? I don't see anything pertaining to rawmode in setting in 7.1.1 stock. Thanks!

gpz1100 said:
Can you post a screen shot or instructions on how to get raw mode enabled? I don't see anything pertaining to rawmode in setting in 7.1.1 stock. Thanks!
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Hi gpz1100... I can tell how I do: Open stock camera... Go to Expert mode... open Settings (gear icon)... select "Save like RAW image"
The Raw DNG photos you can see in a PC or, in your phone, using a app for raw process (like Photo mate 3d).
The Raw photos do not show in galery, You must find this with a file explorer (I use "solid explorer")

aviladario said:
Hi gpz1100... I can tell how I do: Open stock camera... Go to Expert mode... open Settings (gear icon)... select "Save like RAW image"
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I think that's the missing link. I don't see expert mode¿?

gpz1100 said:
Can you post a screen shot or instructions on how to get raw mode enabled? I don't see anything pertaining to rawmode in setting in 7.1.1 stock. Thanks!
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7ojY63Qx7YjZy11WHpfdVBINm8
(My default language is spanish)

gpz1100 said:
I think that's the missing link. I don't see expert mode¿?
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If you're not running the A2017U variant rom then you won't find the RAW feature. A2017G and A2017 phones don't have it.

aLexzkter said:
If you're not running the A2017U variant rom then you won't find the RAW feature. A2017G and A2017 phones don't have it.
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I am on stock a2017u
I see this
http://i.imgur.com/WvwbMVo.png
But in the manual settings, no raw setting.

Try find raw option in the settings of manual mode.
Apparently only in A2017U model raw is supported.
Another reason to be disappointed with the zte axon 7 ... And, on the other hand, continue enjoying the jpg of his camera, because the raw are disastrous (at least for now)

Ok! So one has to be in manual mode, then the raw option appears in settings (gear icon top left). I took a few pics but they're all saved as jpg's, not .dng. Where do yo special for it to save as dng?
If you can be precise with what is needed to duplicate your issue, perhaps more could chime in on their experience.

gpz1100 said:
Ok! So one has to be in manual mode, then the raw option appears in settings (gear icon top left). I took a few pics but they're all saved as jpg's, not .dng. Where do yo special for it to save as dng?
If you can be precise with what is needed to duplicate your issue, perhaps more could chime in on their experience.
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Try locating the .dng files on a file explorer? I don't suppose the stock gallery can see those files. Sorry if it's too obvious

With raw mode activated, two versions of same image are saved: a JPG and a DNG file.
The DNG files (raw photo) are saved in phone memory (not in SD). Conect the phone in a computer for download the image (in my phone: the folder "Camera" into "DCIM" folder) or use a file explorer for find raw photo (for my only "solid explorer" works for show and open dng files in edition apps with raw support, like Photoshop express, Photo Mate R3, Snapseed)...

Sorry!
I have the phone set to save pics to sd card. Didn't think to look in the internal storage originally.
Anyways, here's a sample I just took.
I opened it up both on the phone and with the pc. Don't see any dots.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4OJ4vVQChtiX0xEZU5YYU5VdGc/view?usp=sharing

Watercolor photos. Auto mode camera issue. When the camera soft is upgraded?

Somebody from forum and I noticed a very strange feature in the stock camera on the Oneplus 5. I don't know whether it was done specifically or not, but the quality of photos in auto mode and in Pro mode is very different. And I'm talking about Pro mode, but without additional manual settings. Let's call this mode Pro-auto. The thing is, if you take a photo in auto mode the detailing of distant objects (especially trees, grass) is violated and the picture becomes horrible, the picture looks like a watercolor painting. This is clearly seen with croping. But if you take the same photo in Pro mode with automatic settings, you will not see the watercolor. The picture becomes more qualitative and detailed. Interestingly, the exposure time and ISO in auto and Pro-auto modes can be the same, but the result will be different. Probably algorithms for processing photos in the auto and Pro modes are not the same. Auto mode uses strong noise reduction more than necessary, because of this we see a watercolor effect. For comparison, I present a few photos in auto (without HQ and HDR) and Pro-auto got by 1+5 and a photo in auto mode by 1+3 (without HQ and HDR).
You can download all full size pictures here https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B61V7UugGlMNMzNLMzNJMW1GVXc
Example #1. It is the miniature of the picture in auto.
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Looking pretty good, but if we crop and compare with Pro-auto mode photo, we will see the difference.
Even OP3 has more details.
Next two photo examples were took by my colleagues from 4pda forum.
Example #2. Again it looks nice.
But if we crop and compare with RAW, which was got by Pro-auto mode, ... just look at this ...
Example #3. Indoor low light picture.
Let's crop again.
Even here we can see the difference between auto and Pro-auto modes algorithms.
It's just a few examples, but I assure you that all owners will have the same problem. The problem is the camera soft. My colleagues and I call you not to leave it. You could add your examples with auto and Pro-auto comparison. We all need to attract more attention to this problem, maybe OnePlus team will fix this awful watercolor effect in auto mode.
Let's share and spread this information!​

I tried it myself and I noticed that when the watercolour effect is present, the ISO of the photo is a lot higher. In the pro-auto mode, the ISO used is 800, while in auto mode for the same picture the ISO is 1600. I also notice that sometimes the watercolour effect may not take place in auto mode, in this case, the ISO as well as the picture quality will be the same as pro-auto mode.

In addition please find the topic on the official forum.
Also there is at least one support ticket 1269844 - but this one seems to be visible for 1+ support only...

LKspro said:
I also notice that sometimes the watercolour effect may not take place in auto mode, in this case, the ISO as well as the picture quality will be the same as pro-auto mode.
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Unfortunately not, the watercolor effect always appears in auto mode. It may not be noticeable when you look at the close and large objects on the picture, but this doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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Unfortunately not, the watercolor effect always appears in auto mode. It may not be noticeable when you look at the close and large objects on the picture, but this doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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Have the same on my unit, tried cropping and looks like on the above examples. Camera is the weakest point on this phone I hope they will try to do this something with this software...

The camera is terrible. In auto mode, there is a very strong watercolor effect, there is no clarity. In the pro mode, the situation is slightly better, but the noise reduction works very hard, kills all the details. In addition, in the pro mode, the dynamic range is smaller.

I absolutely agree. The software is horrible for this camera. OnePlus used way too aggressive noise reduction, AND they use to high ISO values in Auto mode. And I didn't even mention the useless digital crap that their marketing calls "2x lossless zoom". Unfortunately, they don't seem to be interested in fixing the camera (a HAL change is required), and they officially stated they won't open access to the telephoto camera because it's quite crappy.
Oh, and by the way, their Camera 2 API implementation is buggy as hell. We have a mosquito artefact when shooting HDR+ with Google Camera or even using Snap Camera to capture RAW!

Curious how 4.5.10 compares to 4.5.8....They Noise Reductions improvements.

I haven't got the chance to take any daylight shots , but when i took some indoor shots , i indeed saw huge improvements in 4.5.10 , and the noise has gone down and details have gone up , i will post some example shots if u want.

android lover 2000 said:
I haven't got the chance to take any daylight shots , but when i took some indoor shots , i indeed saw huge improvements in 4.5.10 , and the noise has gone down and details have gone up , i will post some example shots if u want.
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Can you post comparison shots ?
Thanks in advance

Stupifier said:
Curious how 4.5.10 compares to 4.5.8....They Noise Reductions improvements.
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There is no difference... Watercolor effect is still here.

Camera is still bad. Please oneplus can't you just see how detailed and sharp the oneplus 3t camera is?? How hard would it be to correct the post processing?

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Sorry, but I have no idea where you got this information. The difference between RAW and RAW+ on the OPPO Find X5 Pro is the following:
RAW-Mode: creates a dng and a jpg/heic.
RAW+: only creates a dng.
RAW+ works in a similar way as multi-frame raw. As Oppo themselves explains: RAW+ captures more details and a wider dynamic range.
There might be some confusion with the designation "RAW+". With DSLR´s, RAW+ often refers to the option to save both a dng and a jpg, while RAW only saves a dng.

Absolutely right. I have to do some comparison between the generated RAW and RAW+ with my Find X6 Pro.