Absolutely terrible battery life and overheating. known fix? - LG V20 Questions & Answers

Is this a common issue with this phone ? It is 4 pm and my phone is at 27%. Unplugged it at 630am this morning . Hardly used it today, and already charged it during lunch time for 30 ,minutes , and charged on my way to work as well. It overheats significantly , to the point I have to take it out if my pocket because it's too warm. I'm always closing apps and try to keep brightness at a minimum. I forced switched to the v 20 from the Note 7, and god how I miss my note 7. I'm at a point were I have to carry an external battery with me even when I'm at home. Any help would be appreciated.

Sounds like a bad unit that needs to be warrantied to me.

darkleafar said:
Is this a common issue with this phone ? It is 4 pm and my phone is at 27%. Unplugged it at 630am this morning . Hardly used it today, and already charged it during lunch time for 30 ,minutes , and charged on my way to work as well. It overheats significantly , to the point I have to take it out if my pocket because it's too warm. I'm always closing apps and try to keep brightness at a minimum. I forced switched to the v 20 from the Note 7, and god how I miss my note 7. I'm at a point were I have to carry an external battery with me even when I'm at home. Any help would be appreciated.
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It depends on alot of things as to why its doing it.
Like how many apps have you tranfered over from an older device instead of starting from scratch.
What apps do you have running on V20?
What's the refresh rate on apps your running?
Do you have battery saver apps installed or app killer apps installed? If so, remove them from the phone.
Have you tried a factory reset?
How about a battery pull?
How long has this been going on?

shwnr11 said:
It depends on alot of things as to why its doing it.
Like how many apps have you tranfered over from an older device instead of starting from scratch.
What apps do you have running on V20?
What's the refresh rate on apps your running?
Do you have battery saver apps installed or app killer apps installed? If so, remove them from the phone.
Have you tried a factory reset?
How about a battery pull?
How long has this been going on?
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[quote name="darkleafar" post=70380821]Is this a common issue with this phone ? It is 4 pm and my phone is at 27%. Unplugged it at 630am this morning . Hardly used it today, and already charged it during lunch time for 30 ,minutes , and charged on my way to work as well. It overheats significantly , to the point I have to take it out if my pocket because it's too warm. I'm always closing apps and try to keep brightness at a minimum. I forced switched to the v 20 from the Note 7, and god how I miss my note 7. I'm at a point were I have to carry an external battery with me even when I'm at home. Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]<br />
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It depends on alot of things as to why its doing it.<br />
Like how many apps have you tranfered over from an older device instead of starting from scratch.<br />
Over 100 apps
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What apps do you have running on V20?<br />
Nothing major. Mostly use it for streaming and smart home control. I always make sure to close apps when not in use
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What's the refresh rate on apps your running?<br />
Facebook and email are updating based on push notifications. But according to battery consumption they are not a major factor. Plus I'm not doing anything different that I used to do on my note 7 and yet the result is entirely worse.
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Do you have battery saver apps installed or app killer apps installed? If so, remove them from the phone.<br />
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None
Have you tried a factory reset?<br />
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Not yet. Thinking about it
How about a battery pull?<br />
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Haven't tried. Didn't really see how that would help
How long has this been going on?
Since day one.
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If it's been going on since day one.
I would first start with a factory reset, than install apps straight from Google one by one.
Do not do transfers of apps. Especially when going from older android 6 to newer android 7.
Yes battery pull can fix issues over unknown heating. Had the issue myself a hand full of times off and on. But they have stopped.
But your problem sounds more like a bad app or a bad phone. I'd try the cleaning up of apps first before returning the phone.

I also had to ditch a Note 7. I have had the issue with TWO V20s. Apps dont really close and then the phone gets hot and drains the battery. It happens 2-3 times a week. This week, it was Facebook Sunday, Chrome Tuesday, and the Weather Channel app yesterday. I have to force stop the app to get it to stop. I have done factory resets, comlplete wipes etc. Nothing works. I have sent the phone back to LG, they "fixed" it , and 2 days later it was doing it again. LG won't do anything but "fix" it again, leaving me without a phone for 10 days, which is unacceptable. I'm going to switch to a different phone. Never buying another LG product, ever...

Either you have an app misbehaving or a bad phone. I can get 24-48 hours easy when using my v20 lightly. I never run out before the end of the day when using it moderate to heavy. Only time mine got warm and used battery was right after the last update while it had "upgrading Android" in the notification area. After it was done it cooled down and battery life is better than before the update.
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Remove facebook app and messenger

Add another app...
The stock calculator, that comes pre-loaded just caused the phone to get hot and drain the battery after use.
Used the calculator for maybe a minute, then closed it. Phone got hot and the battery drained 10% in 5 minutes, until I force-closed the app.
Verizon is sending me a loaner Galaxy S5 to use, while I, once again, send the V20 back to LG for them to "fix".
Trying to build my case for getting out of this clunker, especially since a 2nd, refurbished, phone did the same thing.

rowihel2012 said:
Remove facebook app and messenger
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This. Use your browser to access facebook. The most recent update for the Facebook app is a battery hog on all platforms.
I don't use the Facebook app or Facebook messenger app and have no battery issues. Get rid of them and see how it works. If it doesn't change anything then you need to try and remove some other apps until you can narrow it down.

androiddiego said:
This. Use your browser to access facebook. The most recent update for the Facebook app is a battery hog on all platforms.
I don't use the Facebook app or Facebook messenger app and have no battery issues. Get rid of them and see how it works. If it doesn't change anything then you need to try and remove some other apps until you can narrow it down.
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FWIW, the Facebook app I had on my V20 was 2 updates old......I deliberately did not update it. Phone still overheats and drains the battery. The 2nd V20 - didn't even have Facebook on it, and had the same issue. In fact, it had NOTHING, other than what was on it, right out of the box.

It has happened to me 3 times now, I pull battery for about 2-3 minutes and whatever app or process causing it resets. I've tried closing recent apps, restart, etc. doesn't work. I have a temp monitor installed and it got up to 116F and the battery drops so fast. Just waiting it out to the Note 8.....................

up8000 said:
It has happened to me 3 times now, I pull battery for about 2-3 minutes and whatever app or process causing it resets. I've tried closing recent apps, restart, etc. doesn't work. I have a temp monitor installed and it got up to 116F and the battery drops so fast. Just waiting it out to the Note 8.....................
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If you're able to remember the last app you used, you can force-stop it in settings. That will save you the time of pulling the battery. Happened to me three times LAST WEEK.

chrisdg74 said:
FWIW, the Facebook app I had on my V20 was 2 updates old......I deliberately did not update it. Phone still overheats and drains the battery. The 2nd V20 - didn't even have Facebook on it, and had the same issue. In fact, it had NOTHING, other than what was on it, right out of the box.
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It's the location services on the LG V20.
You need to go to settings > location services ... change it from "high accuracy mode" to "Networks only (Battery Saver)"
Also disable your Facebook app in the apps, and make sure you don't have Snap Chat installed, if you do go into Snap Chat and set the roaming data option in the app it will prevent it from constantly downloading updates in the background.

exist2resist said:
It's the location services on the LG V20.
You need to go to settings > location services ... change it from "high accuracy mode" to "Networks only (Battery Saver)"
Also disable your Facebook app in the apps, and make sure you don't have Snap Chat installed, if you do go into Snap Chat and set the roaming data option in the app it will prevent it from constantly downloading updates in the background.
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1. Networks only/Battery saver - I set it to that on every new phone I get., including both V20s. Phone has overheated with location turned completely off.
2. Facebook app has been disabled since it caused the overheat 1/15. Phone has overheated 3 times since, and FB is still disabled.
3.Don't have SnapChat installed.
This appears to be a fairly common issue. I have seen similar threads on AndroidCentral, Verizon community forums, droid-life to name a few.

I only charge once every two or three days and I'm a heavy user. Never had it get hot except when I was backing up in TWRP. Of course, I don't run Facebook, Snapchat, or Instagram (but I do run Twitter, as a system app) or the advanced location services (HIGH) though.

chrisdg74 said:
I also had to ditch a Note 7. I have had the issue with TWO V20s. Apps dont really close and then the phone gets hot and drains the battery. It happens 2-3 times a week. This week, it was Facebook Sunday, Chrome Tuesday, and the Weather Channel app yesterday. I have to force stop the app to get it to stop. I have done factory resets, comlplete wipes etc. Nothing works. I have sent the phone back to LG, they "fixed" it , and 2 days later it was doing it again. LG won't do anything but "fix" it again, leaving me without a phone for 10 days, which is unacceptable. I'm going to switch to a different phone. Never buying another LG product, ever...
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My dad and I both have replacement devices due to the same issues. Anne then my dad's replacement just did it again, we're not happy and at&t isn't willing to do anything
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That sucks. This is why I'm somewhat hesitant to root my device it seems riddled with problems. I have a feeling I won't be keeping the V20 for more than a year. I miss my HTC M8 that was a solid phone.

I have H990DS model and no overheating. I run a lot of apps but not Facebook!
I've had this phone for 3 months without serious issue. Perhaps something associated with Verizon is chewing your battery? I bought a spare battery early January and so far I haven't needed to use it. Start work at 6:30am and phone is nearing death at 10pm with moderate to heavy use.
The phone runs MUCH cooler than my HTC One M9 & M7. I'm very happy so far.

exist2resist said:
That sucks. This is why I'm somewhat hesitant to root my device it seems riddled with problems. I have a feeling I won't be keeping the V20 for more than a year. I miss my HTC M8 that was a solid phone.
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LOL Tell me I picked up a m9 after loving my m8, big disappointment. But the m9 makes a great hand warmer in the cold.
Looking at picking up a v20 or s7 edge. Reading the heat problems here is making wonder, don't want one more hot phone.

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How I solved a big part of my Atrix Battery Problem

So I got my Atrix just over a month ago. For the first week to two weeks, battery life was GREAT! But then suddenly I'd used 70% of my battery in 3 hours, and wasn't getting through the day.
Sure I'd downloaded a few apps, but the focus of MY device is personal email and phone calls, and that usage hadn't changed. So SOMETHING was amiss!
I looked at the apps I'd downloaded, running apps in the background, and I REALLY didn't see the issue. So for a week my battery was nearly dead. One night I LET it die. Ran it into the ground and charged it ALL the way back up. It seemed better for a day or two, but then the problem seemed to come up again...
Frustrated, but not wanting to have to Factory Reset my device, re-root, re-enable tethering on my data plan, etc... I looked for other options. And about this time, my Social Networking app wasn't updating. Figuring I didn't really need it anyway, I first disabled it, then used a 3rd party app to uninstall it. The icon is still in the phone, and I can still open it... but it NEVER updates.
Well, since doing that... my battery life has been MUCH better! I think the Social Networking was keeping the radio running WAY more than it needed to be. And now that it's disabled or whatever, I'm not having 1/2 that battery drain. Getting through the day isn't such an ordeal, and I LOVE my phone again!!!
Dunno if this will work the same for others, but thought it might help a few folks. Best wishes!!!
What 3rd party app did you use to get rid of it?
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Ramsport said:
What 3rd party app did you use to get rid of it?
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Use titanium backup to freeze it, no need to uninstall
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merkman said:
So I got my Atrix just over a month ago. For the first week to two weeks, battery life was GREAT! But then suddenly I'd used 70% of my battery in 3 hours, and wasn't getting through the day.
Sure I'd downloaded a few apps, but the focus of MY device is personal email and phone calls, and that usage hadn't changed. So SOMETHING was amiss!
I looked at the apps I'd downloaded, running apps in the background, and I REALLY didn't see the issue. So for a week my battery was nearly dead. One night I LET it die. Ran it into the ground and charged it ALL the way back up. It seemed better for a day or two, but then the problem seemed to come up again...
Frustrated, but not wanting to have to Factory Reset my device, re-root, re-enable tethering on my data plan, etc... I looked for other options. And about this time, my Social Networking app wasn't updating. Figuring I didn't really need it anyway, I first disabled it, then used a 3rd party app to uninstall it. The icon is still in the phone, and I can still open it... but it NEVER updates.
Well, since doing that... my battery life has been MUCH better! I think the Social Networking was keeping the radio running WAY more than it needed to be. And now that it's disabled or whatever, I'm not having 1/2 that battery drain. Getting through the day isn't such an ordeal, and I LOVE my phone again!!!
Dunno if this will work the same for others, but thought it might help a few folks. Best wishes!!!
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I had the same problem and did the same thing and it solved my problem also.
Just tried that, and unfortunately I'm still having the terrible battery problems. Battery barely lasts through half the day
you know, your phones come with a battery manager in settings, so you can see what app / service is draining it.
Instant messengers for example, no matter which one, drain the battery a lot.
I usually turn the phone on at 7:30am and turn it off at 12:00am and am left with 40% battery, although i am a very light user. One gmail account, one twitter account with 15 minutes sync, whatsapp, light browsing and sometimes a phone call here and there.
If you are using Facebook, the new update seems to be killing my battery. I force stop the app after every use.

Gallery App Battery Drain

Hey Everyone,
I saw a post about what i'm having issues with a few weeks ago, but I can't seem to find it. Essentially this what my problem with my Galaxy 10.1 32gig (stock wallpaper) with the new touchwiz update from a few weeks ago is:
The gallery app is killing my battery life. I charge from a dead battery to full, turn on the tablet, and let it sit over night, i lose 40%+ of the battery and i check the battery usage and the majority of it is because of the Gallery App (note, i never "used" it, its just running in the background).
This is a new problem (like 3-4 weeks), before i would lose just a couple of percent overnight, but now its just ridiculous.
EDIT: From what i remember of the other post, someone had mentioned that the gallery app is constantly monitoring rotation so its draining the battery? not quite sure
Thoughts? (I'm pretty darn sure its not my wallpaper as i've never changed it and this is a new issue)
I'm thinking about rma'ing the thing, its just pretty much unusable because the battery is dead so soon.
I'll also point out that i tried the battery recalibration that was posted here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1215182&page=1)
Thanks!
blackbird2150 said:
Hey Everyone,
I saw a post about what i'm having issues with a few weeks ago, but I can't seem to find it. Essentially this what my problem with my Galaxy 10.1 32gig (stock wallpaper) with the new touchwiz update from a few weeks ago is:
The gallery app is killing my battery life. I charge from a dead battery to full, turn on the tablet, and let it sit over night, i lose 40%+ of the battery and i check the battery usage and the majority of it is because of the Gallery App (note, i never "used" it, its just running in the background).
This is a new problem (like 3-4 weeks), before i would lose just a couple of percent overnight, but now its just ridiculous.
PP
EDIT: From what i remember of the other post, someone had mentioned that the gallery app is constantly monitoring rotation so its draining the battery? not quite sure
Thoughts? (I'm pretty darn sure its not my wallpaper as i've never changed it and this is a new issue)
I'm thinking about rma'ing the thing, its just pretty much unusable because the battery is dead so soon.
I'll also point out that i tried the battery recalibration that was posted here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1215182&page=1)
Thanks!
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I only have high gallery battery usage after a fresh flash of the rom, on my tab as well as on my SGS2! this is because the gallery app indices your pictures, as well as creating thumbnails...
so if you have lots of pictutes this would be quite normal, but only for a few hours!
I had this or similar problem. Download Terminal Emulator and type "top -n 1", you will see a list of processes and how much processor they are using. For me the problem was media process, it used over 30% all the time. Killing it fixed the problem for some time. I installed a leaked firmware and the problem went away. But i think that factory data reset could also fix the problem.
Perhaps you have your Gallery app synced with your Picasa account.
If you do, and you have WiFi running while in standby mode, it will drain.
Mine used to drain in the background.
I installed a widget to turn off WiFi when I'm not using my tablet.
My battery life is so much better.
I also disabled the Picasa sync for my Gallery app as well.
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Go to Settings/Applications and find Gallery apps and force close it. It should stay this way. Check it after a while.
blackbird2150 said:
EDIT: From what i remember of the other post, someone had mentioned that the gallery app is constantly monitoring rotation so its draining the battery? not quite sure
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This happens on phones too. Common solution is to uninstall Gallery3D, and install QuickPic from the market.
I've never been impressed with the image display quality of Gallery.
cdf3 said:
Perhaps you have your Gallery app synced with your Picasa account.
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I have mine synced with Picasa and experience non of these problems. My "Running Applications" doesn't even show the Galley App and it's not listed under Battery Use either.
I installed a widget to turn off WiFi when I'm not using my tablet.
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Would't it be simpler to use the factory setting to turn off WiFi when the screen turns off?
16GB WiFi Stock TW
I suspect the OP may have an errant app that may be causing the problem.
Jay Evans said:
I have mine synced with Picasa and experience non of these problems. My "Running Applications" doesn't even show the Galley App and it's not listed under Battery Use either.
I suspect the OP may have an errant app that may be causing the problem.
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Install Spare Parts from the Market (assuming the ROM you're using is providing stats). When the Gallery is sucking battery you'll see excessive sensor usage under 'Battery History'. Partial Wake Usage is another good place to look if you suspect an errant app.

Battery Life Tips and Tricks Thread

I've noticed this phone has hit or miss battery life depending on what you have installed, greenified and frozen. I thought it would be a good idea to create a thread where everyone could share their battery life tips and tricks on this phone.
Below I posted what I have done to maximize battery life. I have not rooted my phone yet, so none of the below tips require root.
I disabled all bloatware apps that came with the phone. I did not disable any of the Asus applications.
I utilize the Asus autostart manger and denied auto start to all my applications except music applications, messenger applications, and google photo sync.
battery sucks. drain to much.
Just use until you have 5% free battery, this should make at least your day
With Android OS taking so much thanks to lollipop, there is not a lot to hope.
We wont see a good battery improvement until we get 5.1
Luckily, that is in the future for this device acc. to Asus.
Since the issue seems to primarily be Android os draining the battery I don't think most battery saving measures will make a difference. We will just have to wait for an update
When I was looking at the phone reviews people were claiming 8 hours screen on time, I can barely get 2 hours screen on time.
The problem I'm having is that the phone never goes to sleep and is constantly awake. Has anyone else seen this issue?
facelessloser said:
When I was looking at the phone reviews people were claiming 8 hours screen on time, I can barely get 2 hours screen on time.
The problem I'm having is that the phone never goes to sleep and is constantly awake. Has anyone else seen this issue?
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I had the same problem after the latest update, no deepsleep in BetterBatteryStats (I'm rooted), I wiped everything and now it goes to deepsleep.
marcof93 said:
I had the same problem after the latest update, no deepsleep in BetterBatteryStats (I'm rooted), I wiped everything and now it goes to deepsleep.
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Which firmware version are you on. I've wiped the phone once already, did you clear any caches? It's driving me mad
facelessloser said:
Which firmware version are you on. I've wiped the phone once already, did you clear any caches? It's driving me mad
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I'm on 2.18.40.12 (ZE551ML of course), I restored the phone from backup & restore in settings (It may take 30 minutes or more). Before restoring I had 45+% of Android OS during the night, now 20% more or less, but, as said, also in BBS I can see deepsleep in frequencies.
Someone posted on Zentalk to turn off remote lock and scan for security threats in google settings. Not sure if it helps or not.
marcof93 said:
I'm on 2.18.40.12 (ZE551ML of course), I restored the phone from backup & restore in settings (It may take 30 minutes or more). Before restoring I had 45+% of Android OS during the night, now 20% more or less, but, as said, also in BBS I can see deepsleep in frequencies.
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I wiped my phone yesterday and restored back up like you suggested and it seams to have sorted out my wake lock issue. I wonder why that is?
facelessloser said:
I wiped my phone yesterday and restored back up like you suggested and it seams to have sorted out my wake lock issue. I wonder why that is?
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Glad you solved, but don't know why, maybe they are working hard on the firmware and there are lot of changes that can cause problem, maybe we have to wipe after every update, Intel processor and Lollipop are so unstable right now!
toebus said:
Someone posted on Zentalk to turn off remote lock and scan for security threats in google settings. Not sure if it helps or not.
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It helps..i turned andriod device manager too
Ok so this is my battery with a normal day of use... Tomorrow ill show the results with your sugestions. My normal days have gsm calls(normal phone calls) whasapp (chat) youtube, twich, game like plant vs zombies 2, look at gmail, surfing internet, taking pics like 25 today.
I notice that battery drains a lot more while photo app open.
I use doble sim as you can see
If you want to test app battery drain, try GSAM Battery Monitor, or for some extra functionality the Pro version. Also very useful to determine what is causing wakelocks when you run into them.
Sammaul said:
If you want to test app battery drain, try GSAM Battery Monitor, or for some extra functionality the Pro version. Also very useful to determine what is causing wakelocks when you run into them.
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Really interesting app ill download tomorrow im tring to lock some functionalities from google like sending data for app security and after that will download this and tell you what i got
Thank u sir thats a good one
Everyone is always wondering about Android using the most battery. Without doing some in depth debugging and tracing I would guess Houdini falls under Android. Because the ZenFone 2 uses the Intel processor a binary conversion for ARM instructions takes place with Houdini. More than likely you have a lot of apps native for ARM.
Force closing asus support app and zenui services app from apps setting gives me good amount of battery boost. Apart I have also disabled google books, movies, plus etc. I don't know if its placebo effect but someone can try and confirm. These app tend to restart at times so if you feel the battery decreasing at high rates again, make sure you force close them again.
Roughly speaking, I tend to get 3-5 min per percentage of screen on time with this which totals to 5 to 6 hrs on SOT on continous usage. Without the apps being force closed, I barely get 2min/%. The usage scenarios are normal web browsing, chats etc. This is using mobile data. It gets even better with wifi.
Try and let me know if this helps.
Maybe I don't use my phone as much as other people. I posted this last night on another forum. My phone was unplugged at 07:00, It's now 21:00. I have 80% battery left and the battery monitor shows 3 days left
I have received email, 3 phone calls and text messages. I checked Twitter a couple of times with the browser. I have read Google News a couple of times and played GSN Casino for about 20 minutes.
In Auto Start Manager I turned off Docs, Sheets, Skype, Slides, Translate, Amazon Kindle, Data Transfer and Web Storage. Everything else is Allow, but I have no social networking applications installed.
Its looks like battery life is a right mixed bag. At the start of the week I was suffering wake lock issue, my phone wouldn't go into deep sleep and was constantly awake. I wiped and restored from backup which seams to fix the issue.
Got up this morning and it looks like the wake lock issue is back. I don't know what to do to fix it.
Feel like giving up on the phone and sending it back if I can

Anyone having any Lag & Heat Issues???

Having Lag & Heat Issues???
Is anyone having lag issue or any heat issues? I guess I have one of the problem notes as mine has extreme lag and heat problems. I have cleared all caches and have also factory reset several times. What's weird is that the lag will come and go, but it's there more often than not. Even scrolling in settings has the jitters.
Any ideas anyone. I might be better off going through the miserable process of exchanging through the mail.
Thanks in advance for any help!
You'll have to boot to safe mode to see if the issue persists. Also, make sure power saving mode isn't on (I've left it on before).
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You'll have to boot to safe mode to see if the issue persists. Also, make sure power saving mode isn't on (I've left it on before).
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I'm experiencing the same issues - overheating, slowing down, serious lag. It's simply terrible. I exchanged it and the new one is just as bad and maybe even worse.
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I'm experiencing the same issues - overheating, slowing down, serious lag. It's simply terrible. I exchanged it and the new one is just as bad and maybe even worse.
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welcome to samsung
I have none of these problems and i am a heavy user
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My guess is it has to do with one or multiple of the apps you have installed. There is a 3 step process to fix this issue.
#1 - See if any of the apps you have installed are running rouge. Check, battery usage, RAM usage, and Data Usage to see if you have any bad apps. Uninstall any 3rd party apps that you installed that are running too much. They may just still need updated to be optimized for this new device. Also you can use the "sleep" (doze) feature in battery management to restrict apps that are running TOO much in the background. Also on any apps that are using too much data or RAM check the permissions. If an app does not need access to Data, Media etc to work properly turn off those permissions.
#2 Debloat the device. I like "Package Disabler Pro". Basically if it has Facebook, FB, or ATT in the name you should disable it. Also you can go through an disable any Samsung software you do not use as well. I would be careful about using the "disable all bloatware" button because it is not setup correctly for this new device yet.
#3 Give it some time. It you have a TON of media on a micro EXSD card then it can take a new phone a long time to index and create thumbnails for all of that information. It should speed up i about a day or so once it finishes indexing. this will also effect your battery life till it is completed.
ShrekOpher said:
My guess is it has to do with one or multiple of the apps you have installed. There is a 3 step process to fix this issue.
#1 - See if any of the apps you have installed are running rouge. Check, battery usage, RAM usage, and Data Usage to see if you have any bad apps. Uninstall any 3rd party apps that you installed that are running too much. They may just still need updated to be optimized for this new device. Also you can use the "sleep" (doze) feature in battery management to restrict apps that are running TOO much in the background. Also on any apps that are using too much data or RAM check the permissions. If an app does not need access to Data, Media etc to work properly turn off those permissions.
#2 Debloat the device. I like "Package Disabler Pro". Basically if it has Facebook, FB, or ATT in the name you should disable it. Also you can go through an disable any Samsung software you do not use as well. I would be careful about using the "disable all bloatware" button because it is not setup correctly for this new device yet.
#3 Give it some time. It you have a TON of media on a micro EXSD card then it can take a new phone a long time to index and create thumbnails for all of that information. It should speed up i about a day or so once it finishes indexing. this will also effect your battery life till it is completed.
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I used the disable all bloatware. Looks to be working fine.
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I used the disable all bloatware. Looks to be working fine.
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Yeah it will break Samsung Pay though... I think it's related to the UIBCVirtualSiftkey app, but have not confirmed that. Also it does not get nearly all of the bloatware. There is a ton of new AT&T junk it does not disable as well as a bunch of new Facebook crap and Samsung crap.
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Yeah it will break Samsung Pay though... I think it's related to the UIBCVirtualSiftkey app, but have not confirmed that. Also it does not get nearly all of the bloatware. There is a ton of new AT&T junk it does not disable as well as a bunch of new Facebook crap and Samsung crap.
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Can you provide a list?
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Can you provide a list?
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Definitely. It gave me the perfect opportunity to try out the scroll capture. Let me know if you have any questions. This is what I have disabled so far without any issues. Once I get a full completed list I'll probably do a write up about how to clean up the dock ROM. I think I'm about 70% done with the list.
So far I'm getting about 6.5 hrs of SOT and about 28 his of usage.
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Definitely. It gave me the perfect opportunity to try out the scroll capture. Let me know if you have any questions. This is what I have disabled so far without any issues. Once I get a full completed list I'll probably do a write up about how to clean up the dock ROM. I think I'm about 70% done with the list.
So far I'm getting about 6.5 hrs of SOT and about 28 his of usage.
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What is the file that could mess up Samsung pay? I can always restore disabled apps correct?
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What is the file that could mess up Samsung pay? I can always restore disabled apps correct?
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I am not positive but I think it's the UIBCVirtualSoftkey if the doesn't fix it. Just enable all of the stuff you disabled and reboot. Then only disable what's on my list. I can confirm is working with my setup.
I'm exchanging mine tomorrow and was hoping for better news but from your experience it sounds like I may have to deal with an expensive piece of crap.
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My guess is it has to do with one or multiple of the apps you have installed. There is a 3 step process to fix this issue.
#1 - See if any of the apps you have installed are running rouge. Check, battery usage, RAM usage, and Data Usage to see if you have any bad apps. Uninstall any 3rd party apps that you installed that are running too much. They may just still need updated to be optimized for this new device. Also you can use the "sleep" (doze) feature in battery management to restrict apps that are running TOO much in the background. Also on any apps that are using too much data or RAM check the permissions. If an app does not need access to Data, Media etc to work properly turn off those permissions.
#2 Debloat the device. I like "Package Disabler Pro". Basically if it has Facebook, FB, or ATT in the name you should disable it. Also you can go through an disable any Samsung software you do not use as well. I would be careful about using the "disable all bloatware" button because it is not setup correctly for this new device yet.
#3 Give it some time. It you have a TON of media on a micro EXSD card then it can take a new phone a long time to index and create thumbnails for all of that information. It should speed up i about a day or so once it finishes indexing. this will also effect your battery life till it is completed.
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I used this app and it's worked wonders.
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This phone lags a lot especially in Chrome and other scrolling apps.. sometimes switching between apps takes lot of time too...I have been using Samsung phones for quite sometime, but unfortunately this is the phone lagging more than any other phone for me..debloated almost 150 apps, still the same..and it gets hot as well when watching videos...none of this happened for me on Note 5...I think Samsung screwed with Note7 software..when they initially released Grace UX software for Note 5, it was very smooth...but the final Note7 software seems to be laggy...the same apps and setup on Note5 doesn't give me these issues....gonna return and try my luck with new one...but good thing is battery life has been very good for me...easily 5hrs SOT whereas on Note5, I used to get only 3.5 hrs
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Having Lag & Heat Issues???
Is anyone having lag issue or any heat issues? I guess I have one of the problem notes as mine has extreme lag and heat problems. I have cleared all caches and have also factory reset several times. What's weird is that the lag will come and go, but it's there more often than not. Even scrolling in settings has the jitters.
Any ideas anyone. I might be better off going through the miserable process of exchanging through the mail.
Thanks in advance for any help!
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I am exactly facing this issue..I am a heavy XDA user, so I monitor all the apps on phone and debloated lot (around 150) apps...still the same.. thing is lag doesn't happen all the times..but it starts from no where..but the phone consistently gets hot while moderate usage
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When the phone is working properly, bloatware should make no noticeable difference and debloating is unnecessary.
My Note 7 usually responds instantly, with no lag, no matter how heavily I'm using it. That's with nothing disabled or debloated. (I'm using the Google Now launcher but everything else is stock/default, with no esoteric apps or settings.)
However, on three occasions in the week I've had the phone, it's gotten into a mode with serious lag while typing. In this mode, even though the characters I type still show up on the screen instantly, I can type 3 or 4 characters with no sound feedback or vibration feedback; then, there will be 3 or 4 delayed clicks and vibrations in rapid succession.
When this serious-lag mode starts, it continues even if I close all apps and put the phone in Airplane mode. It also makes no difference if I turn on power-saving mode, or even maximum power-saving. The only thing I've found that fixes it (for a while) is rebooting.
The intermittent occurrence of the serious-lag problem shows that it's not a matter of the phone being underpowered or overloaded. There's some specific bug that needs to be fixed.
UPDATE: It just happened for a fourth time. And when the serious-lag mode starts, it's not just typing that has a delay with audio feedback. The feedback delay also occurs when I tap on icons, tap on the Back or Recent-apps soft-buttons, etc. There's a delay of up to a second or two between tapping and hearing the feedback.
On the other hand, compute-intensive tasks--such as playing streaming video--work properly even when the phone is in serious-lag mode. So that's further evidence that there is some specific bug, and not a general problem of being underpowered or overloaded.
Gary02468 said:
When the phone is working properly, bloatware should make no noticeable difference and debloating is unnecessary.
My Note 7 usually responds instantly, with no lag, no matter how heavily I'm using it. That's with nothing disabled or debloated. (I'm using the Google Now launcher but everything else is stock/default, with no esoteric apps or settings.)
However, on three occasions in the week I've had the phone, it's gotten into a mode with serious lag while typing. In this mode, even though the characters I type still show up on the screen instantly, I can type 3 or 4 characters with no sound feedback or vibration feedback; then, there will be 3 or 4 delayed clicks and vibrations in rapid succession.
When this serious-lag mode starts, it continues even if I close all apps and put the phone in Airplane mode. It also makes no difference if I turn on power-saving mode, or even maximum power-saving. The only thing I've found that fixes it (for a while) is rebooting.
The intermittent occurrence of the serious-lag problem shows that it's not a matter of the phone being underpowered or overloaded. There's some specific bug that needs to be fixed.
UPDATE: It just happened for a fourth time. And when the serious-lag mode starts, it's not just typing that has a delay with audio feedback. The feedback delay also occurs when I tap on icons, tap on the Back or Recent-apps soft-buttons, etc. There's a delay of up to a second or two between tapping and hearing the feedback.
On the other hand, compute-intensive tasks--such as playing streaming video--work properly even when the phone is in serious-lag mode. So that's further evidence that there is some specific bug, and not a general problem of being underpowered or overloaded.
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Curious, do these typing lags occur on the hangouts app?!?! It seems to be the ONLY app on my Note 5 (and all the other phones I've used) that has a VERY NOTICEABLE KEYBOARD LAG, especially with Samsung Stock keyboard. This happens even with other keyboards, but is WORST with samsung keyboard.....
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Curious, do these typing lags occur on the hangouts app?!?! It seems to be the ONLY app on my Note 5 (and all the other phones I've used) that has a VERY NOTICEABLE KEYBOARD LAG, especially with Samsung Stock keyboard. This happens even with other keyboards, but is WORST with samsung keyboard.....
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No, the problem I'm seeing is unrelated to any app or keyboard. When my phone is in serious-lag mode, the problem occurs across the board. When it's not in lag-mode (which it usually isn't), then there's no lag in any app, including Hangouts.
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No, the problem I'm seeing is unrelated to any app or keyboard. When my phone is in serious-lag mode, the problem occurs across the board. When it's not in lag-mode (which it usually isn't), then there's no lag in any app, including Hangouts.
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Hmmm.....interesting....I use the app os monitor to show which processes are running at high cpu %. Perhaps that can shed some light on your lag issue?
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Hmmm.....interesting....I use the app os monitor to show which processes are running at high cpu %. Perhaps that can shed some light on your lag issue?
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It happens even with all apps closed, no heat, no battery drain. It's not a side-effect of the phone being bogged down with anything.

BUGS & BATTERY USAGE on JULY official rom

hi MI A1 owners.
for those brave enough to use the latest vanilla, official OTA rom, what change did you notice?
does the battery still suffer huge drain that appeared in 2018 roms?
it's a big "NOPE" for me to update, i'm still on official DEC rom because of this drain issue.
Battery life is good on 8.1 no issue for me getting 5-6 hours SOT on gaming.
Never had battery drain problems. Only "issue" is notification led not blinking.
Just noticed that led light is no longer blinking when notifications arrive. Light stays on only when screen is off. Also Bluetooth is constantly disconnecting.
Ambient display isn't working for me.
Led notifier is also not blinking anymore!
Led not blinking, proximity sensor doesn't work properly all the time, some scrolling lag. That's what I've got so far
dudes thanks for your answers.
i'm just more convinced to not doing the update.
maybe the drain i had was magisk-related. (?)
Nothing for me, even got ten hours of screen after some cycles. Led doesn't bother me and it's the only thing i noticed.
Yes, the LED is always on, which is annoying, but the bigger issue is there is no change in the battery drain. I charged to 100%, set the phone down and did not move it or use it overnight. 8 hours later almost 14% of battery was drained. I have tried everything I can think of to try, including turning off high accuracy location, not allowing any location things like safe area, etc. and still I get this drain even when the phone is not in use. Android kernel and system consumed 85% of that usage, and System UI, Play Store and Phone Services accounted for 7%! SO basically, basic Android paired with the A1 hardware seems to be the issue and I don't know that there is any fix for that.
At one point, I thought an upgrade to the A2 was going to be a no brainer, but with the issues with updates being broken and this battery drain issue that nobody seems to be able to pinpoint and resolve, I am thinking I may not buy ANY other Xiaomi. It may be time to try something else because the only way I can get two days of battery is to turn on airplane mode when the phone is not in use!
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8 hours later almost 14% of battery was drained.
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Dunno what to say man. Mine is below.
2-3% at most over night.
And now it would appear that there is an issue with airplane mode.
I put the phone into Airplane mode at 2300 last night with 90% battery and did not pay attention to it. This morning I turned to phone on to find there was only 69% battery left, and WiFi was working. (see screen shot) WTF???? I have started using airplane mode to keep the battery drain to a minimum when the phone is not in use, and now it would appear that this doesn't work either.
I am REALLY getting frustrated with Android and Xiaomi as it seems that every time they do an update, something else goes bump! I have gone from totally happy with the AI when I first got it to being ready to write off Xiaomi as a company I would consider for purchase.
IjazCI said:
Is your WiFi scanning is on. ( Under location / scanning)
Play services also cause these type of sudden battery losses.
Try downloading latest play services apk from apkmirror . Latest one is
"com.google.android.gms_12.8.74_(090408-204998136)-12874034_minAPI26(arm64-v8a,armeabi-v7a)(480dpi)_apkmirror.com.apk"
Uninstall your current one. Install this .
Power off your phone for a few seconds and reboot.
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Thanks for the thoughts, but unless I totally misunderstand what airplane mode is, WiFi should not be active when airplane mode is invoked. You can see by the screen cap that airplane mode is on AND WiFi is active. This seems to be a one off as it has not happened again for the last two days. I turn airplane mode on to stop the overnight battery drain while the phone is doing nothing. I have location set to GPS Only. IIRC play services was just updated 3 days or so ago, so it should have the latest version. I will check it and see though. Again, thanks for the thoughts.
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At one point, I thought an upgrade to the A2 was going to be a no brainer, but with the issues with updates being broken and this battery drain issue that nobody seems to be able to pinpoint and resolve, I am thinking I may not buy ANY other Xiaomi. It may be time to try something else because the only way I can get two days of battery is to turn on airplane mode when the phone is not in use!
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I can't logically understand why you would think it is the hardware causing the issue. If it was hardware, what you are seeing would be happening to every owner of the phone and clearly that is not happening. By saying it is the hardware when you have other software loaded is akin to saying your car's air conditioning doesn't work properly when you have all the windows wound down.
There is something loaded on your phone that is causing the systemUI to be working when you think nothing should be happening. The first thing I see on the screenshot on your phone is that in the top left of the screen you have two non standard icons. That tells me that you have a skin or non standard software constantly running.
The way to solve any issue like this is to go back to basics. I would get the fresh rom and do a Miflash whilst keeping your data. Make sure you do a backup first.
If that does not work, back up your data and do a clean install and check the phone's battery life. Do not load any non google software / app at this stage.
Then each day add one app and test for 24 hours. You will find this issue and the offending app or apps and I would be willing to bet you a few Singhas it will be an app you downloaded not the hardware causing this.
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I can't logically understand why you would think it is the hardware causing the issue. If it was hardware, what you are seeing would be happening to every owner of the phone and clearly that is not happening. By saying it is the hardware when you have other software loaded is akin to saying your car's air conditioning doesn't work properly when you have all the windows wound down.
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Actually, I think it is a combination of hardware/software, but that is just a WAG. Others have noted the exact same issue without running the same software. My bet would be on the RCS services stuff.
There is something loaded on your phone that is causing the systemUI to be working when you think nothing should be happening. The first thing I see on the screenshot on your phone is that in the top left of the screen you have two non standard icons. That tells me that you have a skin or non standard software constantly running.
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Those icons are my Email client and GSAM Battery Monitor (presently 0.1% and 0.8%) and are the only two constantly running programs other than the stock apps and Sophos (0.3%). Neither use much battery compared to the Android stuff. Presently Kernel is 41.6%, RCS/Phone is 30.3%. SystemUI is 3.3%, Play Services is 2.0% and Phone Services is 1.8%
The way to solve any issue like this is to go back to basics. I would get the fresh rom and do a Miflash whilst keeping your data. Make sure you do a backup first.
If that does not work, back up your data and do a clean install and check the phone's battery life. Do not load any non google software / app at this stage.
Then each day add one app and test for 24 hours. You will find this issue and the offending app or apps and I would be willing to bet you a few Singhas it will be an app you downloaded not the hardware causing this.
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Good advice. I will do this when I have a few days to play with it. In the interim, it's airplane mode every night. Thanks for the reply. If it turns out to be one of these apps, let me know where to send the Singhas.
Good luck with it. I hope you find the solution. It can be frustrating, but getting to the bottom of it will be worthwhile. I haven't used Sophos for a long time and even then it was for PC. I am not up with how Sophos AV is integrating into Android but that would be my first guess.
I have only had one issue with this phone after updating and it was that the OS was constantly asking for a password on unlock after using fingerprint not just on startup. A clean install solved it and I have been trouble free since with every update. With over 50 PCs in my office, I could only wish that I had so few issues with Windows updates as I do with Android.
For me, night light auto schedule not working properly.
I can't tether via wifi/bluetoth/usb
Made another post with the problem.
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Good luck with it. I hope you find the solution. It can be frustrating, but getting to the bottom of it will be worthwhile. I haven't used Sophos for a long time and even then it was for PC. I am not up with how Sophos AV is integrating into Android but that would be my first guess.
I have only had one issue with this phone after updating and it was that the OS was constantly asking for a password on unlock after using fingerprint not just on startup. A clean install solved it and I have been trouble free since with every update. With over 50 PCs in my office, I could only wish that I had so few issues with Windows updates as I do with Android.
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Just for grins and giggles, I uninstalled my email client, GSAM, and Sophos, the only programs that run constantly other than system and Line. I then turned my phone off and back on, forced stopped Line, charged it to 100% and set it down with the screen off. It did not move of get used for 8 hours, yet it still used 12% of the battery. (see screenshots) This is better than the 20% with those apps installed, but still not close to what I would consider normal. When I first got the phone, it easily lasted 2-3 days between charges, with 6-7 hours SoT. Overnight would use MAYBE 2% of the battery. Now if I want it to last 2 days I need to turn on airplane mode overnight and then I can make it through a day.
So I guess the next step is to do as you recommended and load up the fresh rom when I have time to mess with it. At least I am now pretty sure that those apps aren't the culprits causing the biggest part of the battery drain. I hate to do it, but I am seriously thinking of a factory reset and seeing if that clears the issue. Would that put me back to Nougat?
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I always disable carrier services apk. As rcs is not here in India.
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How do you disable this apk? I seriously think this is the major culprit in the battery drain.
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charged it to 100% and set it down with the screen off. It did not move of get used for 8 hours, yet it still used 12% of the battery. (see screenshots) This is better than the 20% with those apps installed,
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So those apps were causing 40% of of the 20% of the battery drain. That is a good start. I am confident there are software issues with your phone. I see you have some GPS app on your home screen, if that was running askew, it might be constantly pinging. That is just a guess.
In things like this, work methodically through it. But of cause a hard reset would be the best way to go. I see no reason why you wouldn't stay on your current version after a hard reset.
If you want to go make to version 7 you would need to use the MiFlash program and a downloaded standard fastboot rom. You may need to do something else to the phone to go back to 7, but I would not think so.

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