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No....and most likely never will be.
I have the T-Mobile branded V20 and it doesn't have the tabs for wireless like the V10 had.
The LG v20 does support wireless charging... At least a according to LG's site... The back cover does not have contact points because it's already made from metal... And wireless charging is the worst thing to do to your phone... Just saying.
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ZDeuce2 said:
The LG v20 does support wireless charging... At least a according to LG's site...
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Please supply the link
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And wireless charging is the worst thing to do to your phone... Just saying.
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Whats wrong with wireless charging? Ive never had it,just curious.
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The LG v20 does support wireless charging... At least a according to LG's site... The back cover does not have contact points because it's already made from metal... And wireless charging is the worst thing to do to your phone... Just saying.
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I've never seen any proof that rhe V20 has wireless charging. What the are you talking about the back already being metal? That doesnt explain why the phone lace the charging pins that are needed. How is a slow charge more damaging than a quick charge? I guess that the coils can generate heat but....
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I've never seen any proof that rhe V20 has wireless charging. What the are you talking about the back already being metal? That doesnt explain why the phone lace the charging pins that are needed. How is a slow charge more damaging than a quick charge? I guess that the coils can generate heat but....
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I'm still waiting for the person to supply the link that calls out the wireless charging.
Think we'll be waiting a long time.
The back cover is metal, therefore the entire back is a conductor... All of the spots you see here are contact points to the phone frame, the two major ones are near the camera opening.
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The back cover is metal, therefore the entire back is a conductor... All of the spots you see here are contact points to the phone frame, the two major ones are near the camera opening.
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What's the link to the web page you said had information to the V20 supporting wireless charging?
Actually read that best buy canceled orders of wireless charging back plates for most phones after the note 7 fiasco. Also sorry, the two contacts near the camera bezel are for nfc... The other spots were contacts are made were to be for wireless charging back plates, the pads on the back cover are insulation so the contacts do not touch the metal on the stock back plate, and lg customer service has now back pedaled on there stance of it being wireless charging compatible. So it seems it is, but it won't be released due to concern of a Samsung type disaster.
And yes, the heat generated by wireless charging could reduce battery life by over 50% if you use it exclusively. Why I said it was horrible for batteries (Lithium)
Supposedly, the note 7 problem was due to the battery being made to thin, which cause the chemical separation plate in side the battery to fail from heat, and or damage from drops, and being struck. After it failed, the chemicals mix and boom.
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The only proof I was able to find now it a screen shot of an lg reps conversation on reddit... All the stuff I read months ago is now gone... Google it and click on the reddit link to see this pic. Other than that it seems that everything else is gone...
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The back cover is metal, therefore the entire back is a conductor... All of the spots you see here are contact points to the phone frame, the two major ones are near the camera opening.
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Also sorry, the two contacts near the camera bezel are for nfc... The other spots were contacts are made were to be for wireless charging back plates, the pads on the back cover are insulation so the contacts do not touch the metal on the stock back plate, and lg customer service has now back pedaled on there stance of it being wireless charging compatible.
And yes, the heat generated by wireless charging could reduce battery life by over 50% if you use it exclusively. Why I said it was horrible for batteries (Lithium)
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You realize that you made a statement about the back plate and the completely retracted everything you said in the second response. I'm not trying to be an asshole here but please make sure that you have your facts straight before posting it.
There is is no proof that those 10 pins are for wireless charging. A giant metal door can not wireless charge. You would need a coil for that. Controlled resistance and magnetic fields. I'm not saying that the pins are not for wireless charging though. If there is wireless charging, the back will have to be replaced.
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You realize that you made a statement about the back plate and the completely retracted everything you said in the second response. I'm not trying to be an asshole here but please make sure that you have your facts straight before posting it.
There is is no proof that those 10 pins are for wireless charging. A giant metal door can not wireless charge. You would need a coil for that. Controlled resistance and magnetic fields. I'm not saying that the pins are not for wireless charging though. If there is wireless charging, the back will have to be replaced.
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I said I was sorry, I was wrong... I am not stupid, that is why I said I'm sorry... Furthermore, if you read the damn post you quoted, I also stated the the contact we're insulated from the metal door... And no there isn't any proof, because as I stated, anything and everything that was posted by LG or on any LG site now has been removed... Just in case you missed it I also said that the only thing now available is on reddit.. But since you just feel the need to let everyone know you're here, I'll stop this post now so you can rebuke my post rebuking your post that rebuked a post I already rebuked myself on...
I now pass the mic to you Captain Redundancy...
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I said I was sorry, I was wrong... I am not stupid, that is why I said I'm sorry... Furthermore, if you read the damn post you quoted, I also stated the the contact we're insulated from the metal door... And no there isn't any proof, because as I stated, anything and everything that was posted by LG or on any LG site now has been removed... Just in case you missed it I also said that the only thing now available is on reddit.. But since you just feel the need to let everyone know you're here, I'll stop this post now so you can rebuke my post rebuking your post that rebuked a post I already rebuked myself on...
I now pass the mic to you Captain Redundancy...
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It's the internet, don't get an aneurysm over a simple post. Reddit posts are hardly facts. All the other proof that you claim to have magically disappeared is just another internet post that I don't take serious. Calm down.
It's not my fault that you post false information then realize how nonsensical it was less than an hour afterward. You then get angry at me for calling you out. Are you going to apologize for that information about wireless charging heating up batteries more than quick charging? The heat is only generated at the coils themselves. The batteries remain much cooler as the energy input to them are low.
I've dropped the mic and walked out of the building. It up to you if you want to pick it up and cry to yourself. I will not destroy this thread anymore.
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It's the internet, don't get an aneurysm over a simple post. Reddit posts are hardly facts. All the other proof that you claim to have magically disappeared is just another internet post that I don't take serious. Calm down.
It's not my fault that you post false information then realize how nonsensical it was less than an hour afterward. You then get angry at me for calling you out. Are you going to apologize for that information about wireless charging heating up batteries more than quick charging? The heat is only generated at the coils themselves. The batteries remain much cooler as the energy input to them are low.
I've dropped the mic and walked out of the building. It up to you if you want to pick it up and cry to yourself. I will not destroy this thread anymore.
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Lmao, yeah I'm so upset... Once again, I corrected my mistake and apologized for my misplaced statements long before you even read any of it... I know I messed up and corrected myself. You did absolutely nothing but acted like the self absorbed douche canoe that you are... I also stated that the only lg info left is a guys screen shot from reddit... Which by no means is a statement of fact... I only said it is the only thing you can find anywhere remotely tied to LG regarding wireless charging... I could honestly care less if you believe me or not, I could care less if my v20 ever gets wireless charging or not... In my opinion, and the opinion of many others wireless charging is bad for the life of Lithium batteries... Besides that, I have two extra batteries, and a damn cradle... Which I rarely use as is, plus a charge pack I carry for my speaker... I was reading this thread, got curious, did some research, and was misinformed, did some more research and found stuff which seems more accurate, yet is still inconclusive... So in closing, instead of quoting my posts, and my self correction of my post, why don't you post something meaningful, since you claim to have all the damn answers and not one shread of proof. At least I have the balls to say my first post was wrong... You aren't telling me a damn thing I didn't already know, or admit to for that matter... I also stated numerous times that this was everything I could find... So have at it Internet tough guy... Rant over, everyone have a wonderful night... (except you, you suck) ?I'm out.
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on wish.com you can order the c type wireless receiver that plugs in and sticks to the back of the phone and will fit under your case, and you can also get the charge pad also, I just want this for when I am at work, have the charge pad, I am now ordering the receiver
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on wish.com you can order the c type wireless receiver that plugs in and sticks to the back of the phone and will fit under your case, and you can also get the charge pad also, I just want this for when I am at work, have the charge pad, I am now ordering the receiver
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The problem with the current receivers is that they max out at 1 amp at 5v of input to the phone. You'll get an error that states "Charging Slowly" Use the charger and cable that were provided with this phone, or check the cable is properly connected." On clearing the error it will charge but... huh... slowly. I don't believe it's damaged the battery as it still gets me through a day. It's just a pain having to clear the error. So if it eventually damages the battery or shortens it's life - I'll get a new battery. As we all know they're easily replaced.
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The LG v20 does support wireless charging... At least a according to LG's site... The back cover does not have contact points because it's already made from metal... And wireless charging is the worst thing to do to your phone... Just saying.
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I've said I'd never buy a phone without wireless charging... well - here I am. It's too convenient to plop your phone on the charger on your nightstand, your desk, and in your car. I'm hoping we get wireless charging as this is the only thing that can get me to change out my V20 (as of today). Love the phone.
If it's hard on the battery, I'll replace the battery - which we can do and many others can't.
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The problem with the current receivers is that they max out at 1 amp at 5v of input to the phone. You'll get an error that states "Charging Slowly" Use the charger and cable that were provided with this phone, or check the cable is properly connected." On clearing the error it will charge but... huh... slowly. I don't believe it's damaged the battery as it still gets me through a day. It's just a pain having to clear the error. So if it eventually damages the battery or shortens it's life - I'll get a new battery. As we all know they're easily replaced.
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I've said I'd never buy a phone without wireless charging... well - here I am. It's too convenient to plop your phone on the charger on your nightstand, your desk, and in your car. I'm hoping we get wireless charging as this is the only thing that can get me to change out my V20 (as of today). Love the phone.
If it's hard on the battery, I'll replace the battery - which we can do and many others can't.
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I too said the same thing--coming from an S7 Edge and many others with wireless charging, I was in love with it. However, I rarely used my wireless charging because QuickCharge is so fast! I can bring my phone to a full charge a phone in about an hour, before bed, so I don't need to drop it on the charging pad all night. Same goes for the morning before work. I bought 10ft USB cables on aliexpress.com and because of this phone, just bought microUSB to USB-C connectors for all my cables. They had a 5-pack for $8, I'm pretty happy. Even my car charger is an Anker QC 3.0 compatible, so it charges just as quickly.
Unlike with the Samsung, it'll be nice to have a second battery for road trips. There is a big difference between swapping a second battery over carrying around a charging brick and having your phone connected while it charges slowly back up when you're sight-seeing.
At this point I guess it's unlikely that a 3rd party will make a proper sticker either - the kind that does not use the USB port. It's really unfortunate that LG dropped the ball with the back cover. I got the V20 on sale for half price, but really considering going back to Note 4 while I still can. V20 just seems like too much of a trade off in features.
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Found this cover that claims to have wireless charging functionality. But their own pictures show that it's just plastic - no receiver, no contacts visible.
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I modified my Galaxy Note to use inductive charging via a palm touchstone / patch.
Just a quick note. Not a whole lot to contribute here, because I largely followed the examples of the Qian Qi. That guy is awesome.
I don't think I voided a warranty, either. Only minimal teardown required (black plastic back, then the speaker section). Never came across a sticker I had to remove....
Useful links:
galaxy s inductive charging mod
evo 4g induction charging mod
galaxy note teardown video
galaxy note teardown pics
Notes:
- Buy a good soldering iron. Weller WESD51, set to 610 deg F, with 1/32" long conical tip, with lots of flux and lots of flux remover are the only reason I could do this. I can't stress enough the value of having good temperature control, knowledge of temperature, and so forth. I stumbled around with an "ordinary" soldering iron for a long time, and in hindsite, I can't believe I did so.
- Do not choke on the price. I already had a lot of soldering gear, and I bought $220 more. Spend the money. It's worth it.
- Watch the curious inventor youtube videos on soldering. This guy. Watch everything, several times. http://store.curiousinventor.com/
- You want 30 gauge wire. It's the only thing that just barely can be crammed in. I used the "Kynar" coated type. Buy at least 2 colors.
- as you look at the phone disassembled, with speaker on the bottom left, the +5 pin on the micro usb (MHL) port is the leftmost. I attached a wire to that, and a ground wire to the housing where the port was soldered.
- routed the wires under the speaker, then back, then into a VERY slight indentation into the battery compartment. used a blue "safe open" tool to help shape the wire / crimp ends. Once in the battery compartment, you're golden. Attach the inductive charging coil to the back of the samsung plastic back, add solder to the pads, and attach the wires.
- Attached is a picture with roughly how I routed wires. Red is +5V, Blue is ground. Be sure and double check if my recollection is right where the indentation is into the battery compartment. (that part is by memory).
- dont leave too much slack. it's really hard to get the samsung black pastic panel back on. Mine very slightly bulges.
- be careful where you put the charging sticky patch, because this phone is a little bit bigger than a palm pre. You have to consider if the phone can sit on the charger and "lock in" with the magnets. If you place it too high, it actually can't (in portrait)!
- Qian Qi had a really interesting point: most articles about how Li-ion batteries behave are wrong, and fully discharging the battery drastically reduces the number of cycles you have. So this is actually a very useful mod--whenever you don't use the phone, toss it on the charger.
Thanks for summing it up! Was actually thinking of doing this mod myself. Question: do you have a protective case on your Note? If so - what kind and how badly does it affect the magnetic properties?
No case. Especially because the note is so big, I think it would be unmanageable.
I took the samsung thin plastic back, and placed the Palm PRE (with charging coil still attached) on top of it, on the touchstone -- to figure out proper placement & mark with a pencil. I noticed a buzzing sound, coming from (I think) the induction coil on the palm pre back itself. I suspect if you use a case, this wont work well.
Also, the size/weight/placement of the galaxy note are such that the magnets are just barely strong enough to hold it. One time my phone was near, but off, the charger. I'm not sure if vibration from the phone did that, or my kids
In summary, I'm not sure how well it would work with a case. You might be able to research this on the net; among the 15 or 20 people that have bought a Pre, you might be able to find some info about the effect of a case on inductive charging.
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im wanting to try this mod i have my touchstone on the way not thank you amazon but it seems like to me that the pad from the pre wouldnt fit under the cover of our phablet =/ could you post pics of the finished product and i think this is the only instance that i have seen someone attempt this with the note and i want to try it i love my note but would love it even more with inductive charging.
I am not the original author but I performed a different Touchstone mod and posted pics here:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...1-galaxy-note-touchstone-mod-photo-heavy.html
Hope it helps!
-darren
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Thank you!!!
Thank you so much for your post I have my materials on the way but I hadn't seen a detailed guide for the note other than this one and was worried I would have to solder directly to the usb pins which looked scary lol I did have two questions though would your mod work the same way for the at&t note? Specifically the points where you soldered to the phone and can wireless charging be performed through a case?
Hey, OP here. You may want to hold off just a bit. Mine is exhibiting some issues now. As in, it says "charging" but it doesn't do so wirelessly. The phone will stay "charging" but the battery % never goes up. (It was slow before, but would charge fully over a night).
Charging via USB still works.
It may be something simple; I'm not sure. But I need to crack it open and take a peek, and I haven't had time to do that yet because my phone is functional at the moment.
If nothing has conspicuously changed, there may be something about the design that isn't sustainable. Or maybe my solder joint halfway broke, or one of the wires got smashed enough so that it's partially broken...
I'll write back with my findings. Bug me if I don't
Thanks for the notice I was about to pull the trigger lol tbh I probably shouldn't attempt this I've never done a mod like this before and I'm not exactly a surgeon with a soldering iron lolvthatvbeing being said I'm going to attempt this on an old evo 4g I have before I do surgery on my baby lol plus I'm already familiar with the guts of an evo from screen repairs ill report back with my results
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Success it took some doing but I got it I haven't done the mod on my note yet but I did it on my evo last night and it works its rough I haven't cleaned it up yet but I'll post the pics I got this mod from www.goodandevo.net
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Thank you for this post.
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No prob I just wanted to see if i could do it and if I can do it with little soldering experience I'm sure most could do it I haven't done this mod to my galaxy note though as there is way less room in its a far more complicated mod than the evo because you have to make room for wires in a device samsung made as thin as possible and the way you have to route the wires I feel like the solder joints would just break
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For those who want to try this out but still have warrantee just buy a backcover, a micro usb plug and assemble it according to the directions here.If you need the note just take out the usb plug and the back cover and you're good to go.... Or leave it there.....
For those who don't know what pins to use on the usb plug:
Pin: 1 is 5V+ (red)
Pin: 5 is GND (black)
Works like a charm.......
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Cool mod! Does it affect the stylus operation though?
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Cool mod! Does it affect the stylus operation though?
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yes it affects the stylus sometimes it reacts with delay and sometimes it clicks although only hovers over it
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Cool mod! Does it affect the stylus operation though?
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I was not a big stylus user; I can't stand the input lag. I didn't notice a difference, but I always considered the input speed unacceptable. Not sure why there would be any difference, anyway.
My big problem that I've never taken the time to address is that after some time, it's as though I can't pull enough current through the wires to charge. One day I need to crack this open & figure out why.
gr8 n interesting post
wonder how fast can a full charge be completed
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gr8 n interesting post
wonder how fast can a full charge be completed
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It is slower than normal, but completed in a night. I still have not dismantled my phone to attempt to repair this, but I want to soon
I feel Microsoft and their OEM's can revolutionize on the wireless charging and expand to solar charging, no other device offers this, I believe this will be minimal but beneficial.
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I feel Microsoft and their OEM's can revolutionize on the wireless charging and expand to solar charging, no other device offers this, I believe this will be minimal but beneficial.
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I love the idea of wireless charging no more fumbling around searching for the cable to plug in. every night.
I will have one for my office desk and one for my bedside table thanks.
Glad to see Nokia take the lead in implementing this, the technology has been around a while, and if they follow this up with some great car accessories it would be fantastic.
Imagine a solar shirt designed with a wireless charging pocket. Place the phone in the pocket and it charges while you are walking. Walla
Just for the record the majority of Docomo mobiles (Japan) have been coming with the wireless charging pad for months now and they released solar charging handsets last year.
It is a nice idea though.
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Just for the record the majority of Docomo mobiles (Japan) have been coming with the wireless charging pad for months now and they released solar charging handsets last year.
It is a nice idea though.
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palm.... has had this like, forever.
before folks go GaGa over wireless charging, how are you going to USE your phone while its charging?
no phone calls except speaker phone.
no texting without knocking it off the charger ( or ewwww speak to txt ) or the good old " I'm not crazy!!! " Bluetooth yelling conversatikns.
no maps without knocking it over
basically , no functioning of the phone without picking it up.
cords still own the charging and usable portion of phones.
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palm.... has had this like, forever.
before folks go GaGa over wireless charging, how are you going to USE your phone while its charging?
no phone calls except speaker phone.
no texting without knocking it off the charger ( or ewwww speak to txt ) or the good old " I'm not crazy!!! " Bluetooth yelling conversatikns.
no maps without knocking it over
basically , no functioning of the phone without picking it up.
cords still own the charging and usable portion of phones.
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I agree with you about the wireless charging NOT, currently, the end-all-be-all.
They will have a "Dock" that you can stand your phone in with wireless charging. If you are used to it, you can use some functions while it is docked. For the most part, you can just pick it up, use it and set it right down without the worry if your cord is too short or anything. I know that yanking on the cord to use it while charging has cause many issues with ports being broken, so nice to know we're getting away from that.
I have BT headset, so phone calls while it is docked/charging is not an issue.
I think the biggest benefit to me in Wireless charging is that I am always on the go. I always have my phone with me and when I am at my desk, I have to get up at a moments notice sometimes. I just grab my phone and go, no need to worry about plugging it in or unplugging it.
Now, there is a place where Wireless charging will not take over, until someone makes something VERY stable and snug. Charging in the car. I will have a cord there.
Im quite looking forward to a new handset before xmas and very interested in the 920. Though I am concerned about the cost and practicality of a wireless charger for the car.
I do drive a fair amount and the satnav really gives the battery a hammering
Anyone seen and info on the car chargers looks/cost?
You cant use the phone while it is charging? Simple. Just pick it up off the plate, use it and then put it back on charge. The phone is not glued to the charging plate you know
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I plan on having the dock on my bedside table and the plate on my computer desk.
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You cant use the phone while it is charging? Simple. Just pick it up off the plate, use it and then put it back on charge. The phone is not glued to the charging plate you know
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I plan on having the dock on my bedside table and the plate on my computer desk.
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you're at 5% remaining battery, at your desk, and need to make a lengthy phone call (weak signal eats battery), that may require linking to web pages, emailing a link to a map, and checking your calendar..... would you rather have the phone die mid process or have it plugged in and charging?
in the car a dock+ wireless charging would sooooo rock. yes, agreed. please no proprietary plugs for audio though.
Maybe wired charging is still an option
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you're at 5% remaining battery, at your desk, and need to make a lengthy phone call (weak signal eats battery), that may require linking to web pages, emailing a link to a map, and checking your calendar..... would you rather have the phone die mid process or have it plugged in and charging?
in the car a dock+ wireless charging would sooooo rock. yes, agreed. please no proprietary plugs for audio though.
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Perhaps you will still be able to charge by wire?
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you're at 5% remaining battery, at your desk, and need to make a lengthy phone call (weak signal eats battery), that may require linking to web pages, emailing a link to a map, and checking your calendar..... would you rather have the phone die mid process or have it plugged in and charging?
in the car a dock+ wireless charging would sooooo rock. yes, agreed. please no proprietary plugs for audio though.
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luckily i have a phone and laptop at my desk so this situation is not that likely
but seriously. Solar is a moronic idea. Cell's just cannot generate enough power, let alone the amount of space it would take.
I would never let my battery go to 5% and yes you can still charge directly by cable. I don't see what the problem is.
There are accessories that can help you charge your phone using solar energy.
Pretty much every phone can be charged that way.
However, the phone batteries require a lot of electric power in order to regenerate the chemicals producing energy inside, and solar power with small panels does not produces that much voltage to charge it in comparable time to fast USB chargers or AC from power grids.
If the phone was running on native solar energy cells, it would have been much better, but that comes with its own set of problems.
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Perhaps you will still be able to charge by wire?
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glad you said that. yep, and when its time to go, you're carrying the phone sized wireless charger, that wire, and your phone to wherever. the needless duplication was the point I was coming to.
now, about that awesome car dock, maybe it has an antennae and signal booster built in? that would so rock.
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glad you said that. yep, and when its time to go, you're carrying the phone sized wireless charger, that wire, and your phone to wherever. the needless duplication was the point I was coming to.
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I'm guessing you're being synical for the sake of an arguement; so if I may, I'll dig in
Personally, I like for the sake of not having to fumble around with a cable every time I want to charge my phone at night, or the office (my cables have a tendancy of finding their way back on the floor; and yes, I leave a spare charger at my desk, since no one steals).. I would be more likely to place my phone on a charging platform, even though the battery reads 85%, then the traditional method; reducing the odds of the battery falling to critical levels. Also, as more companies adopt Wireless Charge, less often will my friends be asking me if I have the proper cable, or have to hunt for it because it fell behind my desk again.
By the way, Nokia is working with businesses and airports, to implement "charging bars" at cafe's mini-bars and waiting gates.. Which is a far more attractive option then trying to source an outlet at the airport.
So yes, wireless charging will be useful to many others
synical? nope. just looking at real life usage. I'm plugged in right now, because soon it will be shut eye time, and the phone is making backups of whatever I scheduled, then it will drop box the stuff somewhere...yawwwwwwwn I know. boring.
the fact is, its not ergonomic to actually use a phone laying flat on its back, in a charger or dock, wireless or wired. if its in your hand, its usable.
"working with airports" implies that something, might happen, someday.
it would rock a metric **** tonne more, to have your dock/charger plugged in tomorrow, while waiting on your flight, and watch some Netflix or other movie.
show me the car dock that has wireless (phone to charger) connectionivity and I'll definitely stamp it as a win. otherwise, wireless charging is just a place to put a phone with some extra gee wiz.
I don't see why there is negativity or what the problem is. Wireless charging is not the ONLY way to charge the phone you know. You can still charge by cable directly. If Wireless Charging is not for you then don't buy the bleedin' charging plate. I for one love the idea. Reason being my last HTC had a faulty usb port from the constant plugging in and out for charging. Eventually it bust and the only way to charge it was by removing battery and using wall charger. Lost me money in resale. Now my usb port on my Radar is starting to play up. So if anything wireless charging will save wear and tear on the phone's usb port which is a GREAT thing! Plus if someone goes on holiday they would bring just the usb cable and not the plate. Its common sense. The plates are meant for home and office. Ohgood you say when its time to go you need to bring the plate, cable and phone with you. Here is an idea for you, leave the plate at home or office and just bring a charging cable with you. Good idea huh?
yeppers, excellent.
it seems that real world use is misconstrued to be negativity usually. also, any non " marketspeak " opinion is assumed negative. a few folks (you did) can comprehend the differences and see applications in real life usage.
ex: my carrier says my home city has "4g" coverage blanketing the entire city. there's one marketspeak (ms) term already, and one falisy. then they continue with "up to 14mbps" . real life usage proves its hspa in blanket , and hspa+ in pockets, but edge is really the all penetrating connectivity provided.
were I to say " ItS not really a blanket of hspa+ coverage" folks wouldn't say much, and would likely bemoan the market speak they're -used-to- hearing and knowing isn't exactly true.
should I attempt the same thing with an established, mature charging system that Nokia is prophesizing as the "future" , suddenly I'm being negative....
hope that cleared things up nicely.
Just to be clear, Nokia so did not invent wireless charging or were the first ones to use it. There have been competing standards for years. They seem to be the first high profile phonemaker to push it on a high-profile flagship phone and try to make it a standard. Just like Apple.
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Just to be clear, Nokia so did not invent wireless charging or were the first ones to use it. There have been competing standards for years. They seem to be the first high profile phonemaker to push it on a high-profile flagship phone and try to make it a standard. Just like Apple.
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Nobody stated Nokia invented wireless charging.
It’s good to see they are willing to push new technology out and try to advance the whole mobile ecosystem unlike a curtain fruit company that has changed very little in their last 3 models.
I am amazed at how many glass half empty people there are.
I've been mulling this over, and here is where I'm at so far...
Can we develop a relatively easy / straight forward wireless charging mod for the LG G2, similar to what has been done for the Samsung Galaxy S3/4 and Note 2?
At first it doesn't seem that likely, as there's not much space behind the cover of the G2, and not being designed to be removable, is relatively hard to get off. Maybe not that hard though. Some looking around here at XDA shows several people who have removed their back covers to rough them up and get rid of the shiny plastic / tendency to collect fingerprints, so it seems taking it off / putting it back on without damaging the phone is quite possible.
The main thing then is finding a coil / receiver setup thin enough that it won't cause bulging or fitment issues, which may not be possible while retaining the "stock" back.
I suspect we may be able to get around this by using a "snap on" style hard case and some padding to maintain the over all look of the phone, effectively mounting the coil in the resulting gap where the back cover once was. This isn't my idea originally -- I've seen several people do this when using exceptionally thick aftermarket cases for the Galaxy S3, where they either removed the stock back of the phone entirely or built the Palm charging coil in to the back of the case The main issue with this sort of setup would be the area around the buttons / camera lens as it would have a space there and likely collect dust and dirt / be more likely to get damaged. If the stock back becomes available (like via ebay, say) relatively cheaply I could see some people buying a spare and modifying it relatively easy to cover this problem area, we're talking about a thin piece of plastic after all.
The only remaining issue would be getting the coil connected, then. I have yet to open the AT&T version or see a picture of one opened (all the pictures I've seen thus far have been the VZW version with the wireless charging built in) but as I understand the AT&T and T-Mobile versions likely don't include the pogo pins used to connect the charging coil for the VZW version, so we'd have to find somewhere else to connect, likely to the charging pins of the USB port as has been done for other wireless charging mods with earlier phones.
All in all this probably won't be a common mod (we're likely in solid "warranty voiding / can't easily be reversed" territory here) but I don't see any definite reason so far why it wouldn't be doable.
Would anyone else (ideally someone with more "involved" hardware modding experience -- I've just done the Palm Touchstone mod in a few Samsung GS3s) like to chime in here? Suggestions?
I love my G2 and I imagine ROM / community support is going to be great since the Nexus 5 is looking to be based off of it, but after only a week or so of ownership I'm really missing just setting the GS3 on the Touchstone at night, and while the USB port seems sturdy enough I don't like risking it every time I charge.
silent-circuit said:
I've been mulling this over, and here is where I'm at so far...
Can we develop a relatively easy / straight forward wireless charging mod for the LG G2, similar to what has been done for the Samsung Galaxy S3/4 and Note 2?
At first it doesn't seem that likely, as there's not much space behind the cover of the G2, and not being designed to be removable, is relatively hard to get off. Maybe not that hard though. Some looking around here at XDA shows several people who have removed their back covers to rough them up and get rid of the shiny plastic / tendency to collect fingerprints, so it seems taking it off / putting it back on without damaging the phone is quite possible.
The main thing then is finding a coil / receiver setup thin enough that it won't cause bulging or fitment issues, which may not be possible while retaining the "stock" back.
I suspect we may be able to get around this by using a "snap on" style hard case and some padding to maintain the over all look of the phone, effectively mounting the coil in the resulting gap where the back cover once was. This isn't my idea originally -- I've seen several people do this when using exceptionally thick aftermarket cases for the Galaxy S3, where they either removed the stock back of the phone entirely or built the Palm charging coil in to the back of the case The main issue with this sort of setup would be the area around the buttons / camera lens as it would have a space there and likely collect dust and dirt / be more likely to get damaged. If the stock back becomes available (like via ebay, say) relatively cheaply I could see some people buying a spare and modifying it relatively easy to cover this problem area, we're talking about a thin piece of plastic after all.
The only remaining issue would be getting the coil connected, then. I have yet to open the AT&T version or see a picture of one opened (all the pictures I've seen thus far have been the VZW version with the wireless charging built in) but as I understand the AT&T and T-Mobile versions likely don't include the pogo pins used to connect the charging coil for the VZW version, so we'd have to find somewhere else to connect, likely to the charging pins of the USB port as has been done for other wireless charging mods with earlier phones.
All in all this probably won't be a common mod (we're likely in solid "warranty voiding / can't easily be reversed" territory here) but I don't see any definite reason so far why it wouldn't be doable.
Would anyone else (ideally someone with more "involved" hardware modding experience -- I've just done the Palm Touchstone mod in a few Samsung GS3s) like to chime in here? Suggestions?
I love my G2 and I imagine ROM / community support is going to be great since the Nexus 5 is looking to be based off of it, but after only a week or so of ownership I'm really missing just setting the GS3 on the Touchstone at night, and while the USB port seems sturdy enough I don't like risking it every time I charge.
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I have an Optimus G Pro, but a family member got a G2 as a gift. I have Qi, but they don't (T-Mo version). I'd be interested in helping out; just not sure they'd let me open theirs up. Are you sure it lacks the pogo pins? And, additionally, for Qi, could the patch in the G Pro be potentially helpful?
I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more momentum...
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I have an Optimus G Pro, but a family member got a G2 as a gift. I have Qi, but they don't (T-Mo version). I'd be interested in helping out; just not sure they'd let me open theirs up. Are you sure it lacks the pogo pins? And, additionally, for Qi, could the patch in the G Pro be potentially helpful?
I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more momentum...
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You can compare the pins in these pictures. Notice the extra 2 contacts by the NFC contacts on the Verizon version.
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and people complain about android fragmentation.
Here we have the same LG G2 and you get wireless charging on one and not on the others. You have to buy the flip case for them based on your carrier. It's rather retarded if you ask me. They should all have the wireless charging.
Not just an LG thing either.
OP, to you answer your question, this isn't possible. I run an android parts shop and we have torn down a D801, D802 and a VS980. I have a D802 myself and wanted the wireless charging ability. My technician said it wasn't possible, the wireless charging module from the VS980 has no place to connect to on a D80x board.
:crying:
The best solution I think would be to solder the coil straight to the USB charging lines, but if that isn't possible I guess you could connect the coil to a USB plug and then just connect the plug on the USB port and leave it there all the time (you'd only need to remove it when you connect the phone to the PC). You would need to find a rather small USB head (ideally one with a 90 degree angle) so it doesn't get in the way.
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The best solution I think would be to solder the coil straight to the USB charging lines, but if that isn't possible I guess you could connect the coil to a USB plug and then just connect the plug on the USB port and leave it there all the time (you'd only need to remove it when you connect the phone to the PC). You would need to find a rather small USB head (ideally one with a 90 degree angle) so it doesn't get in the way.
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Agreed. Something like: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Type-A-Micro...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item51b4da088d
I actually did this recently to my Verizon Galaxy Nexus. I used a Note 2 Qi Receiver pad. I took my soldering iron and melted plastic casing away to expose 5V and GND where I soldered 2 beads for connection. I then fitted the Qi Pad over the beads and adjusted for a good connection. Added Double Sided tape and applied my Incipio Feather Case. When I removed the case, the double sided tape kept the Qi Pad on the case, where I permanently installed it.
I have the actual back plate cut in half to keep the camera whole sealed, but the battery and Qi pad is exposed. I basically built myself a Qi Charging Case. Remove the case and replace the back cover with a whole one, and it's gone.
Wireless Charging WAS a requirement for my next phone and luckily only the Verizon variant had it. I saw it as fate.
But conclusion is that just because the internal case doesn't have charging leads available, doesn't mean you can't make it happen. To pour salt in the wound, the Qi Charging works fantastic on the VZW model. I use it every day.
I really hope something comes up with this. I've got the ATT D800 and came from a Nokia Lumia 920 with Qi. I still have the Nokia charger and would LOVE to go back to it. I know some people say it's not important, but those are people who have not tried it yet.
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and people complain about android fragmentation.
Here we have the same LG G2 and you get wireless charging on one and not on the others. You have to buy the flip case for them based on your carrier. It's rather retarded if you ask me. They should all have the wireless charging.
Not just an LG thing either.
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If I have to choose between wireless charging and flawless GPS performance, I'll take the latter.
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If I have to choose between wireless charging and flawless GPS performance, I'll take the latter.
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My Lumia had flawless GPS and Wireless Charging. It can be done. I may break open my G2 and look around a bit...
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My Lumia had flawless GPS and Wireless Charging. It can be done. I may break open my G2 and look around a bit...
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My post was specific to the G2. There is obviously no causal link between wireless charging tech in general and spotty GPS reception but it seems to be the case here. Anecdotally, it somehow has an affect on the VZW model's ability to acquire and maintain a lock.
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My post was specific to the G2. There is obviously no causal link between wireless charging tech in general and spotty GPS reception but it seems to be the case here. Anecdotally, it somehow has an affect on the VZW model's ability to acquire and maintain a lock.
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I hadn't read that yet. Sounds like they put the charging coil too close to the GPS antenna.
I've just ordered one off eBay: http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=261329370615
They're reasonable cheap so I figured I'd try it out and see how it performs. Not going to solder as of now though
//M
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I have no problem with the GPS on Verizon... Acquire locks very fast as well.
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You can compare the pins in these pictures. Notice the extra 2 contacts by the NFC contacts on the Verizon version.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/17/uhu5a3aj.jpg
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My question, though, is what the circuits look like on the back side of the board. It might still have the wiring, just no holes/connector
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My question, though, is what the circuits look like on the back side of the board. It might still have the wiring, just no holes/connector
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I can't speak definitively, but from my experience the traces for those connections are on the same side as they're surface mounted.
I suppose not possible then....?
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I suppose not possible then....?
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HI8JYFE
I have one now, but I haven't gotten in the charging pad to test it, yet.
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eagerly awaiting this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imhoFe4bbFU
neat mod, but seems that it still needs further testing since its so new. qi charging at the end of the video.
very interesting, hope to see a video on how they do it!
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very interesting, hope to see a video on how they do it!
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does anyone know whats the biggest qi wireless receiver pad on the market?
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does anyone know whats the biggest qi wireless receiver pad on the market?
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I have to believe it is something like the Tylt Vu. It has three coils and is quite tall.
This mod makes me happy as I wait for my N5X to be delivered but that theme just brings back a memory from the only time I've shedded a tear in a video game.
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very interesting... Still really risky, you will have to void the warranty to do this and if you don't shield the heat or if the wire touches something wrong it could brick. Just be careful guys. Zsnaps is a safer alternative that makes charging simple. Wish they would ship already
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I have to believe it is something like the Tylt Vu. It has three coils and is quite tall.
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not charger. but a receiver pad.
Why can't someone make a bumper case for the 5X that incorporates a Qi charging coil and plugs into the USB socket? I think there are auxiliary batteries for some phones like that. That would work for me.
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Why can't someone make a bumper case for the 5X that incorporates a Qi charging coil and plugs into the USB socket? I think there are auxiliary batteries for some phones like that. That would work for me.
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im sure someone is going to make one. but not everyone likes to use a case.
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... but not everyone likes to use a case.
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Agreed. And (surprising to me) not everyone likes wireless charging. I hope the intersection of the two (and the 5x community) is big enough to warrant market attention.
I asked the poster ,xCubicle....
What's the large light grey patch on the inside of the back cover?
It can be seen in the ifixit teardown images at step 4.
Got the response...
"useless sticker. peeled it off."
I couldn't help but think back to the AMA
specifically the part "...Meanwhile, wireless charging adds z (thickness)..."
So what's the deal here with the blatant capability of qi wireless being designed into the rear case but the spec being deleted...?
It's because they did not want to give qi to the 5x and leave it out of the 6p because it has an aluminum body.
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It's because they did not want to give qi to the 5x and leave it out of the 6p because it has an aluminum body.
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I'm pretty sure you hit the nail on the head here.
It wouldn't have been as bad if they'd just said that, but the bull****ting about thickness as an excuse is not cool.
after further testing with the mod. i am indeed able to charge wirelessly up to 100% from 0%. i measured the wireless charging current and it seems to range from 100-500ma charge rate. a typical charger ranges from 1000-2500ma charge rate.
regardless, its a working mod so far.
i need to refine the wiring to layout to make it a bit more appealing before i offer it as a modding service.
Awesome news. Looking forward to potentially doing this mod myself!
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I have to believe it is something like the Tylt Vu. It has three coils and is quite tall.
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I bought this for my Nexus 7. Yep it is the largest one, you can even buy it from a Verizon store.
Charging time
Can anyone comment on the wireless charging time with the mod compared to the wireless charging time on the older Nexus 5 which had it built in?
In the same boat as many, where the lack of Qi has prevented me from upgrading
What will happen if wireless charging and USB Charging together?
Not even sure what happens now
To answer my own question form my last post. "Even the more expensive Qi modules appear to charge slower than the factory built in modules". Not sure what the reason for would be? Or people do not realize they are buying lower powered (yet more expensive) modules. Most posts I have seen refer to 500mAh modules
I was bummed when the G4 didn't come with Qi by default but the phone included the pins for it and a $10 easy to install sticker behind the rear plate brought it to life.
With this phone being a metal body and no word on any way to add it without some large bulky case, it's a no go for me.
Qi pad in my office, in bedroom, in my living room and even on my car dock mount. I can't remember the last time I physically plugged my phone in.
No thanks LG.
Why leave out such a basic feature?
Thats the sacrifice they have chosen since wireless charging does not work on phones made out of metal.
Yea thats a bummer, only hope is if theres a module built for it.
Qualcomm did show wireless charging working on metal phones. But with usb type C, it charges so much faster then micro usb. It sucks in a way, but I rather take faster charging then wireless
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So I guess the fragile glass backs on Samsung don't hamper wireless charging.
LG should have just made all their backs a premium leather (because a glass back is terrible, fingerprint magnet and shatter helpful.
It could have been a phone I wanted.
Now I'm stuck looking for an off-the-wall manufacturer who will make what I want... probably won't happen.
Wireless charging (or lack of) doesn't bother me. I never bothered to implement it on my G4. I have no need to keep at charging all day. I plug it in at my desk if it's running low and charge it overnight.
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So I guess the fragile glass backs on Samsung don't hamper wireless charging.
LG should have just made all their backs a premium leather (because a glass back is terrible, fingerprint magnet and shatter helpful.
It could have been a phone I wanted.
Now I'm stuck looking for an off-the-wall manufacturer who will make what I want... probably won't happen.
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The glass back on the S7 is Gorilla GLass 5, same as the screen.
Very disappointed with this. Been using Qi charging for ages
Currently have the Lumia 950XL which I am now bored with.
Was hoping to go to the LG but no Qi is a deal breaker.
Such a pity.
It may be the S7 after all then for me
There is no point to wireless charging when you have a removable battery. Buy an extra battery and a wall charger for it. When charging is required, just switch batteries. I never have to tether my phone to a charger because I always have a fully charged battery on stand by.
turbodroid said:
There is no point to wireless charging when you have a removable battery. Buy an extra battery and a wall charger for it. When charging is required, just switch batteries. I never have to tether my phone to a charger because I always have a fully charged battery on stand by.
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This right here. +1
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Wireless charging (or lack of) doesn't bother me. I never bothered to implement it on my G4. I have no need to keep at charging all day. I plug it in at my desk if it's running low and charge it overnight.
The glass back on the S7 is Gorilla GLass 5, same as the screen.
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gorilla glas 5 does not exist yet 4 is the correct one zdnet made a mistake copying
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turbodroid said:
There is no point to wireless charging when you have a removable battery. Buy an extra battery and a wall charger for it. When charging is required, just switch batteries. I never have to tether my phone to a charger because I always have a fully charged battery on stand by.
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my setup is a bit more extrem when I have a day of heavy mobile usage 10+ h sot because navigation and stuff
I bring my external battery charger my external battery and my second battery I let my external battery charge my secondary battery in an contraption that looks like a lonney toons bomb, because the charging of a battery takes 2h and my phone avareges 3-5h sot I always have enough time and am never for more then 2 minutes unavalable untill I crash when I get home
I'm disappointed too. Love my Nexus 5 with wireless charging.
The Samsung S7 sounds kind of boring, and very expensive. The LG G5 sounds great, but why they left out wireless charging while including all the other features is beyond me.
I'm hoping for a good case that allows this, otherwise will be waiting for the next best thing.
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Wireless charging (or lack of) doesn't bother me. I never bothered to implement it on my G4. I have no need to keep at charging all day. I plug it in at my desk if it's running low and charge it overnight.
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turbodroid said:
There is no point to wireless charging when you have a removable battery. Buy an extra battery and a wall charger for it. When charging is required, just switch batteries. I never have to tether my phone to a charger because I always have a fully charged battery on stand by.
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Quick charge is good enough for me:good:
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gorilla glas 5 does not exist yet 4 is the correct one zdnet made a mistake copying
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True that Corning l Gorilla Glass
Personally i am careless about wireless charging even though i have two wireless charging pad at home with my note 5.
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Quick charge is good enough for me:good:
True that Corning l Gorilla Glass
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LG didn't mention what kind of quick charging in their announcement, quick charge 3.0 or quick charge 2.0 ?
On GSM Arena, it's written :
- Fast battery charging: 83% in 30 min (Quick Charge 3.0)
- Optional Wireless Charging (Qi-enabled)
what do you think?
I think it's definitely possible, really happy to see Type-C on this device.
Right now I'm taking a hard look at this and the Xperia X
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I'm disappointed too. Love my Nexus 5 with wireless charging.
The Samsung S7 sounds kind of boring, and very expensive. The LG G5 sounds great, but why they left out wireless charging while including all the other features is beyond me.
I'm hoping for a good case that allows this, otherwise will be waiting for the next best thing.
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Would be cool to have a case module with battery that allows wireless charging capabilities. Shouldn't be too hard to make and I'm sure the demand is there.
This is the least important feature...particularly, all the radiation, heat and wasted energy from wireless charging.
I imagine that with that swappable accessory bottom they could have one that include wireless charging, even if it creeps up the back of the phone a bit.
Charging ports wear out, that's why wireless charging is so great, so easy to place phone on wireless charging dock
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There is no point to wireless charging when you have a removable battery. Buy an extra battery and a wall charger for it. When charging is required, just switch batteries. I never have to tether my phone to a charger because I always have a fully charged battery on stand by.
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So you carry around a spare battery and charger, and don't mind swapping batteries and rebooting your phone when you want a fully charged phone? It's much easier to have a wireless charger at your desk at work, at home near the couch/bed, and anywhere else you are often, since instead of putting your phone down on the table or desk you just put it on the wireless charger, and when you pick it up it's always at 100%. It's a lot more convenient than having to plug and unplug all day long, or swap batteries.
There's no reason it needs to be wireless charging vs fast charging, all flagship phones have fast charging now, wireless charging is a nice addition.
You can also use wireless charging if your port goes bad, if your phone gets wet and you need to charge it, etc.