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Available onboard memory for applications?

This phone has 8GB of memory (or 16GB for the other model). Can anyone tell me if all of this space is available for application installation? (excluding the space required for the system files etc)?
I thought I read somewhere that only 1GB was available for application installation while the rest could be used to store normal files like on the SD Card. If it is entirely available for application installation then I'm probably ok not upgrading the memory card as 8GB is plenty big enough for what I need. Even if it is limited to 1GB for application storage, this is plenty big enough for what I need.
TIA

1.8GB free for applications installation in the Galaxy S.

I assume the rest is used for storage space of user files like an extension to the SD card?

Correct.... It's an ideal dumping ground for Photos, Music or whatever takes your fancy.

I'm confused, after the 1.8gb where is the other 6.2gb?

The ~6 gb are called Internal SD card or something similar, and is available as storage for music, pictures or whatever you want basically.

Are you aware that with Android 2.2 (froyo) applications will be installable onto the memory cards.

yeah i never really put much on to the onboard memory...i install my apps onto the storage card

SiL3nTKiLL said:
yeah i never really put much on to the onboard memory...i install my apps onto the storage card
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Pray tell how you are managing to install to SD Card as to install to other than internal memory you need Froyo on your system.

Beards said:
Pray tell how you are managing to install to SD Card as to install to other than internal memory you need Froyo on your system.
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more than likely the phone has been rooted

igniztion said:
The ~6 gb are called Internal SD card or something similar, and is available as storage for music, pictures or whatever you want basically.
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ah makes sense now, thanks

vibez said:
more than likely the phone has been rooted
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Yes... I was thinking that myself but I'd just like to clear this one up.

fletcharama said:
Are you aware that with Android 2.2 (froyo) applications will be installable onto the memory cards.
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Strictly speaking, developers need to update their application before it can be installed onto the SD Card. I'm guessing a lot of the less maintained applications won't be updated and thus won't be able to be installed on the SD Card.
Not many applications fall in this area but I'm sure people have a few apps that work as is and haven't been updated for ages.

A little confused by sdcard and external_sd

As the title says, I'm a little confused by the folder "sdcard" and the sub-folder "external_sd".
This is my first native Android device. I've been using Android on my HD2 for about 8 months now and I was fine with the "sdcard" folder actually being my sd card. Now, I've got internal memory of 16GB and that has an "sdcard" folder that my apps use to store stuff to the sd card, but they're not really storing anything on the sd card - it's a folder on the internal memory.
I'd ideally like to have internal memory and an sdcard folder that really is a sd card, so that when apps store things to "/sdcard" it does go to my sd card.
Can someone please clarify this for me?
Thanks

im not 100 precent sure on this but i think this is how it works.
thr tab has an internal non removable 2gb drove that is mounted as /
there is a internal non removable 16 gb drive that mounts as /sdcard ( /mnt/sdcard/ ) this is where your apps are installed.
then whaever external microsd card you insert gets mounted to /sdcard/external_sd/ ( /mnt/sdcard/external_sd/ )
. why its done like this is kinda stupid. apps like titanium backup you gave to type "sdcards/external_sd" as the backup folder if you want to put your backups on the microsd card since it thinks /sdcard is a removable device, which it isnt.
this is where i store pics vids and music crap.
also clockworkmod does seem to correctly put backups on the external card automatically.
heres a tip. create an empty folder on the external card called "THIS IS THE EXTERNALS SD" and likewise for the internal. that way when you are using a app or mounting as usb storage you can quickly and eaisly recognize what drive is what.
i dont know if tha answeres your question but i hope it helps.
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gophet said:
im not 100 precent sure on this but i think this is how it works.
thr tab has an internal non removable 2gb drove that is mounted as /
there is a internal non removable 16 gb drive that mounts as /sdcard ( /mnt/sdcard/ ) this is where your apps are installed.
then whaever external microsd card you insert gets mounted to /sdcard/external_sd/ ( /mnt/sdcard/external_sd/ )
. why its done like this is kinda stupid. apps like titanium backup you gave to type "sdcards/external_sd" as the backup folder if you want to put your backups on the microsd card since it thinks /sdcard is a removable device, which it isnt.
this is where i store pics vids and music crap.
also clockworkmod does seem to correctly put backups on the external card automatically.
heres a tip. create an empty folder on the external card called "THIS IS THE EXTERNALS SD" and likewise for the internal. that way when you are using a app or mounting as usb storage you can quickly and eaisly recognize what drive is what.
i dont know if tha answeres your question but i hope it helps.
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Thanks Gophet. That's pretty much what I assumed, and it was specifically apps like Titanium and Launcher Pro that backup to the SD card that made me ask the question in the first place. Shame I can't set backup folders for everything!
Cheers mate

cool enjoy
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gophet said:
there is a internal non removable 16 gb drive that mounts as /sdcard ( /mnt/sdcard/ ) this is where your apps are installed.
then whaever external microsd card you insert gets mounted to /sdcard/external_sd/ ( /mnt/sdcard/external_sd/ )
. why its done like this is kinda stupid.
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Actually, the reason it is done like this is pretty logical.
Applications get stored in /data/apps (or /system/apps if they are system apps), and can use storage in /data/data. However, on most regular Android devices, the space in these partitions is quite limited, so if an application needs a lot more space (e.g. a game), it stores it's other resources where there is a lot more space and generally this in the sdcard. So many apps are hardcoded to look in /sdcard.
Since the GSM Tabs have 16GB of flash memory, it makes sense to have this space where it is going to be the most use, and that is going to be /sdcard because it is where most applications expect it to be.
If it didn't do this, you'd find that you would have to have a MicroSD card installed on the Tab in order for most applications to work properly, which is a nonsense when you have all that additional internal memory to play with.
Regards,
Dave

Cheers Dave.
That does make sense. I guess it's because I'm coming from a device where I only had about 70MB free space internally, so I needed an SD card, and was constantly moving apps over to it (if they would work there). I guess I need to rethink my ways and just use my SD card for media, with the "sdcard" folder being used for apps.

johncmolyneux said:
Cheers Dave.
That does make sense. I guess it's because I'm coming from a device where I only had about 70MB free space internally, so I needed an SD card, and was constantly moving apps over to it (if they would work there). I guess I need to rethink my ways and just use my SD card for media, with the "sdcard" folder being used for apps.
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If you are referring to our beloved HD2 bud then why do you manually move apps? Just use a sd-ext partition, most the nand roms come with the support or you can flash a zip to enable it. You dont need to mess about with linux to create the partitions you can just use the one included in CWR, it creates a ext3 partition that works fine, ive been using it for ages.
Depending on the rom, the user data will either be moved to your partition or the partition will actually been seen by the HD2 as internal memory so our euro HD2 can actually have 1GB of internal memory.
I myself got a Tab recently and am loving it, its like the big brother to our HD2's
Hey did you notice how small the HD2 seems now?

TheATHEiST said:
If you are referring to our beloved HD2 bud then why do you manually move apps? Just use a sd-ext partition, most the nand roms come with the support or you can flash a zip to enable it. You dont need to mess about with linux to create the partitions you can just use the one included in CWR, it creates a ext3 partition that works fine, ive been using it for ages.
Depending on the rom, the user data will either be moved to your partition or the partition will actually been seen by the HD2 as internal memory so our euro HD2 can actually have 1GB of internal memory.
I myself got a Tab recently and am loving it, its like the big brother to our HD2's
Hey did you notice how small the HD2 seems now?
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I'm more than happy to move things to the SD card on the HD2. Titanium can do it in batches too, which makes life a lot easier. To be honest, I found a ROM that I liked a couple of months ago and I've just stuck with it. It's just a basic NAND ROM with no support for ext sd partitioning, but it's fine as it is. If I do ever flash a newer ROM to it then I'll probably stick with the same setup, to be honest. I'm a bit set in my ways
And yeah, it's funny you should say that about the size of the HD2. It used to feel quite large - a really good size - but after 1 day with the tab it feels like a matchbox in a giant's hand.

[Q] Unable to move apps to external SD on rooted phone

Hi!
So yeah i have a rooted i9505
When i select the option move to SD card it loads about a minute and says its on the SD card
But its still on the internal phone memory (well sometimes a few mbs of huge GBs games.
I also tried Link2SD and created a second EXT2 partition on my sd card and it said everything was correct
But even after "linking" the apps and it says they are linked correctly its still on the internal memory
How can i solve this?
I also already formated the card in the phone itself
Thanks

xeph20 said:
Hi!
So yeah i have a rooted i9505
When i select the option move to SD card it loads about a minute and says its on the SD card
But its still on the internal phone memory (well sometimes a few mbs of huge GBs games.
I also tried Link2SD and created a second EXT2 partition on my sd card and it said everything was correct
But even after "linking" the apps and it says they are linked correctly its still on the internal memory
How can i solve this?
I also already formated the card in the phone itself
Thanks
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As for your first paragraph, it is working exactly as it is supposed to. In that regard there is nothing to solve.
As for the second, are you entirely sure that you're not merely viewing the symlinks that point to your sd card?
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najaboy said:
As for your first paragraph, it is working exactly as it is supposed to. In that regard there is nothing to solve.
As for the second, are you entirely sure that you're not merely viewing the symlinks that point to your sd card?
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Well when i "Link" them to the ext sd partition and i look at downloaded apps or all apps it says 1 gb free
But when i look at "storage" it still says 1 gb free but the bar above shows almost about 1/4 free from 9.23 gb
So i think it maybe works but storage and apps still says its on internal?

xeph20 said:
Well when i "Link" them to the ext sd partition and i look at downloaded apps or all apps it says 1 gb free
But when i look at "storage" it still says 1 gb free but the bar above shows almost about 1/4 free from 9.23 gb
So i think it maybe works but storage and apps still says its on internal?
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See use foldermount

qazmed said:
See use foldermount
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storagemount also says 8.2 from 9.2 gb used internal
and ext2 sd 213 MB used but they were already used for formatting to ext2
and one game just dissapeared with Link2sd
i think thats why the bar shows less i cant find the game anywhere
Very strange
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I rebooted the device after relinking in link2sd and now the dissapeared game is back in the list but now also the bar shows almost full so it was indeed because of the game
but i still cant get them on the partition while it says its there

Saving the SD card file Help

Hello
I need to redo my phone xperia z2 so that you can save files to the sd memory, I tried already klilku instructions but unfortunately none helped me so I ask you for help, I have captured the root + bootlager blocked.
sorry for the mistakes I use a translator,sorry also for SP-topic in this section is not how you wrong I'm new

There's an xposed module called handle external storage, sounds like that's what you need

Mr.R™ said:
There's an xposed module called handle external storage, sounds like that's what you need
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I have been using this module but it seems, Move to SD is still not yet in the App Info.

I misunderstood, there is no apps2sd functionality yet, folder mount will allow you to move app data though

when it comes to downloading applications, games it saves on phone memory and wants to though applications were stored on sd card or also needs a tutorial for turning internal memory to external memory, I tried already a few tutorials but unfortunately does not help and I have android 4.4
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I tried to do the program Link2SD but unfortunately when creating ext2 partition that is not loaded even in windows, the size of her doing 993 mb while on fat32 gives 59 gb. Adata 64gb card

Samsung galaxy J5 memory full

I have troubles with J5, because it has 8Gb memory and official rom takes about 5.5Gb of rom so the rest is full almost imediatelly with 3 extra apps.
So I have rooted phone and put in external SD 32Gb and format is as internal memory, but still get notification all the time that storage is full.
I tried all custom roms here but none works, so I have installed official rom back.
Is there a way to do something to release that internal storage memory?

Blisk1 said:
I have troubles with J5, because it has 8Gb memory and official rom takes about 5.5Gb of rom so the rest is full almost imediatelly with 3 extra apps.
So I have rooted phone and put in external SD 32Gb and format is as internal memory, but still get notification all the time that storage is full.
I tried all custom roms here but none works, so I have installed official rom back.
Is there a way to do something to release that internal storage memory?
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Ragazzza said:
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thank you I tried that but not working.

This this [Module] Magic Folder Binder (requires magisk)
Read #3 post for instructions how to use it
Basically whats that modules does is to mount folders on your external SDcard on internal memory, so you can move your app data to your SDcard and use it as normal.
Any questions ask on module thread.

American_Jesus said:
This this [Module] Magic Folder Binder (requires magisk)
Read #3 post for instructions how to use it
Basically whats that modules does is to mount folders on your external SDcard on internal memory, so you can move your app data to your SDcard and use it as normal.
Any questions ask on module thread.
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Thanks, I already formated SD card as internal memmory and moved all apps which can be moved, but basically none of google apps can be moved and that is a problem.
Also don't know what fills up memmory, because fresh installed rom have 5.5Gb and phone fills up in one month to 8Gb.
Some light room will be good but I tried all and nothing works.
Is there a way to remove google apps which usually can not be removed?

I bought j5 and I downloaded At least few apps and it started showing "low disk space " I decided to delete all apps and out of 8gb it shows that I have 4MB only. I can't install anything and this phone is useless

Mlomdeeni said:
I bought j5 and I downloaded At least few apps and it started showing "low disk space " I decided to delete all apps and out of 8gb it shows that I have 4MB only. I can't install anything and this phone is useless
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Use the Samsung Smart Switch to restore the original ROM or use a custom ROM, it takes less space a have better performance