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My 15 year old nephew wants a mobile. Main use will be music and free games. I was looking at Samsung Galaxy Mini and a user suggested this phone which seems to be available in India as Dell XCD35.
Is the phone good for the price.can he download and play games? How is ram and internal memory?
Would users suggest to but this phone?
I have read there are battery drain problems. Are these solved now?
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It's better than a galaxy mini because it has a better screen. Battery is as good as any other Android smartphone. 512mb ram & 512mb rom. The camera is poor, especially in low light & doesn't have any flash. Like the Galaxy mini it is a low end phone with a relatively slow armv6 cpu, so most games will work, but some of the more demanding 3D games wont work.
The ARMv6 cpu also means that it can't run the official version of Adobe Flash or Google Earth, or a few other apps.
Depending on what's available in your country & the prices it is probably the best phone for the money, but it can't compete with higher end phones (which are usually at least double the price).
yeah its a great phone
I love it. But realy you must install a custom rom because stock sucks much. Cm7 has a great battery life! I can have 2-3 days buut heavy use internet and games 1day. I love it for 130€ its great! Realy.
Thanks for the replies. I can understand that high end games won't run. But it seems a great value for money phone, the screen size and resolution are really impressive in specification, hope in reality too they are good. I will surely suggest this phone only.
Well yes, also highly recommended by me.
I bought one while my HTC was in warranty repair and first I was a bit affraid that it would be crap. After a few weeks I found it to be an excellent phone.
Now I sold the ZTE to my father a couple of weeks ago and I started to miss it a week after, ... and I have a desire HD believe that?
I just ordered one in the Nederlands for 100 Euro which will arrive tomorrow and I am feeling happy again.
lukesan said:
Well yes, also highly recommended by me.
I bought one while my HTC was in warranty repair and first I was a bit affraid that it would be crap. After a few weeks I found it to be an excellent phone.
Now I sold the ZTE to my father a couple of weeks ago and I started to miss it a week after, ... and I have a desire HD believe that?
I just ordered one in the Nederlands for 100 Euro which will arrive tomorrow and I am feeling happy again.
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Now I am firm that this is the phone to buy. Thanks everyone for their inputs.
The phone is good(I think u might have bought it by now.) But watch out for Dead pixels on the screen, speaker clipping(the speaker flutters while playing songs that have bass), the white color status bar that makes a mark on the OLED screen, no loudspeaker in FM Radio app, no LED to show u missed calls(there is a back button led but doesn't flash), The phone OVERHEATS while charging, removing the back cover is like peeling off formica(plywood- whatever u call it) from ur table...
Otherwise its a really good phone. U can find workarounds for the above problems.
And BTW u can play HD high end games...
I still love this phone!!
jj_95nano said:
The phone is good(I think u might have bought it by now.) But watch out for Dead pixels on the screen, speaker clipping(the speaker flutters while playing songs that have bass), the white color status bar that makes a mark on the OLED screen, no loudspeaker in FM Radio app, no LED to show u missed calls(there is a back button led but doesn't flash), The phone OVERHEATS while charging, removing the back cover is like peeling off formica(plywood- whatever u call it) from ur table...
Otherwise its a really good phone. U can find workarounds for the above problems.
And BTW u can play HD high end games...
I still love this phone!!
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A couple of thoughts about that one.
Dead pixels. Haven't seen one of the 10 Blades I saw.
Speaker clipping. Well the thing is at least 5 times as loud as my Desire HD and the sound of the speaker has some body.
No led, true but also alot of other phones have the same issue.
New ones use LCD not Oled, the quality of the screen is very very good.
The back, well yes, but I rather have a back were RF signals like wifi, gps etc can get thru. Wipes the floor with my Desire HD in terms of wifi, gps, phone signal and speaker
The dead pixels are somethings u really have to look for on a black background. You may have them but not even notice. About the speaker-> listen to something like Sun Is Up by Inna and you'll see how it clips. And I might have been wrong with oled or lcd... mine is TFT(Gen 2){Just saw that on the net}.
I have to agree that this phone is value for money! Overheating while charging is not much of a problem, but it`s fact. The only thing that I think the phone lacks is battery life, its poor while playing games or browsing /especially on 3G/. I`ve seen worst 3.2px cameras, so I think its barable (Using Camera 360 improves picture quality for me). As a whole, its a great phone for a great price!
I liked this phone so much when I got it that I'm now stuck with 3 of them. Blade was my first Android phone and while it was a cheap one, it was still better than any of the Nokia phones I had previously owned. Like many have mentioned, it does lack in some fronts, camera is just utterly horrible, pretty much the only thing it's good for is barcode scanning, so if you want to take decent (or even good photos), better grab a real camera with you. The speaker in Blade is INCREDIBLY good! It's the best I've heard so far and I've had way more expensive phones.
Wow, thanks for the good reports everyone. But the budget is increasing so I was looking for alternatives.
Thinking of getting the Samsung Galaxy Y S5360 or Vodafone Smart 858 U8160 (not sure if it will work for non-vodafone SIM)
jesrani said:
Wow, thanks for the good reports everyone. But the budget is increasing so I was looking for alternatives.
Thinking of getting the Samsung Galaxy Y S5360 or Vodafone Smart 858 U8160 (not sure if it will work for non-vodafone SIM)
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The problem with that is those two phones are much worse than the Blade. Especially the U8160, they are terrible.
You have to spend double the Blade's price to get anything significantly better & you could easily pay 50% more for a worse phone.
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The problem with that is those two phones are much worse than the Blade. Especially the U8160, they are terrible.
You have to spend double the Blade's price to get anything significantly better & you could easily pay 50% more for a worse phone.
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I can confirm that. Great for the money!!!
Hi Xda Members
How are you ?
I have some thoughts in my mind lately, I bought last year the GNX. I really Loved it, but there was one problem ( Signal drop ), each time i call someone the signal drops. they said its Software problem but it was never solved (with me), even with different ROMS.
However, i broke it by mistake.
so i waited for the N4 , waited for Nov 13 and as all of you know, OUT OF STOCK! till now
am really nexus google fan ( I love how nexus device are built ) especially that all the buttons are touch in the screen ( i dont like the Galaxy series )
For those who have the Device or really an expert in ANDROID market :
1- Now its Mid January and no news about stocking, we don't know when this device will be available. Do you think there will be new devices in the Market soon ( HTC ... etc ) maybe ?
2- If there are some new devices , do you think buying N4 will be useless at that time?
( If there are any new Devices may come to the market soon , any recommendations ?)
About the Problems People complaining about :
I heard some complaining about these things ( For those who own the device ) i need really the truth.
1- Some Buttons ( Volume - Power ) are moving, maybe not strongly held in place.
2- Back glass near the Speakers may get Damaged because of sound ? or glass may break when you put it the pocket or scratches ( I read a thread long ago )
3- Signal Drops after using WiFi ( 3g does not work after WiFi ) you need to restart network ( what about normal Radio signal does it drop like GNX ) ?
.....
So i want some thoughts from people with knowledge, would you recommend me this device after all this delay in Stock while more device are approaching with new tech ?
Thanks and Sorry for Long talk
The S4 pro should remain top dog at least for another 4-5 months. Unless you're willing to wait roughly half a year for the exynos 5, I think now is a decent time to buy the nexus 4 provided you can get your hands on one by February. But there has been no concrete information provided by Google about when it might be back in stock.
As far as problems go, the glass back is fairly fragile and scratch-prone. I really recommend that you use a case. There is slight coil whine from the ear piece if you really pay attention to it. The stock kernel runs pretty hot and battery life without the 3g wakelock fix is poor. With a custom kernel and undervolting, heat and battery life are very acceptable. I personally have not had any problems with data or signal drops.
While build quality is so-so as far as internals go, all performance-related issues for the n4 can be remedied with software; the price for the core technology you're getting is unbeatable regardless. All-in-all, I would recommend the n4 provided you can get one in a reasonable time-frame.
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I got sometimes a signal drop but it's in the same places I had it with my evo 3d so I think it's not phone's issue. Buttons are made with quality of Samsung - they won't fall out but you may hear this ugly sound when it gets pressed. And the back glass... No idea yet.
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Thanks Roberrt ! So i can assume Radio signal is way better than the previous Nexus
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The S4 pro should remain top dog at least for another 4-5 months. Unless you're willing to wait roughly half a year for the exynos 5, I think now is a decent time to buy the nexus 4 provided you can get your hands on one by February. But there has been no concrete information provided by Google about when it might be back in stock.
As far as problems go, the glass back is fairly fragile and scratch-prone. I really recommend that you use a case. There is slight coil whine from the ear piece if you really pay attention to it. The stock kernel runs pretty hot and battery life without the 3g wakelock fix is poor. With a custom kernel and undervolting, heat and battery life are very acceptable. I personally have not had any problems with data or signal drops.
While build quality is so-so as far as internals go, all performance-related issues for the n4 can be remedied with software; the price for the core technology you're getting is unbeatable regardless. All-in-all, I would recommend the n4 provided you can get one in a reasonable time-frame.
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Nice reply Consolidate ^_^
So
1- Signal is better than previous
2- Some scratches may occur ;( i hate using cases i love the normal phone way
3- Some sounds may be heard while clicking the buttons
4- heat problems
5- Battery problem was in the previous nexus too , Low battery life !
I hope they solve the heat with some ROMS or they update the stock ROM
and if they stocked it in this month or februery i should buy it
I hope all the delays in the stock because LG is trying to solve these issues
Thanks again guyz for reply
I got a Xperia Z Original(tmobile) and just waiting for it to be delivered.
I use a Windows Phone now and only ever used like 10 apps total. Might use 20 at most in a day.
Is this phone still a good for casual performance. I mostly use music,video,email,social media apps, and not much else.
All else is done in the browser.
I won't be running multiple apps a lot,no new games.
Also I heard the screen is terrible at an angle, but also heard it's not the screen, but sonys settings.
So can it be made better at viewing angles with software tweaks or is really that bad.
I got for around $120, which looks good for 5 in. 1080p phone.
Just not too sure how the processor holds up.
edit: sorry I put this in wrong forum section, not sure how to move it. Please move.
Sure!
I'm using Xperia Z for daily use
It still perform well without any lag
I usually use it to listen musics.surf the net....
It can even run a lot of games!!
the only defect is it's poor screen and poor battery life...it too bad
but all in all, I think Xperia Z is still a execellent phone!
tnciw said:
Sure!
I'm using Xperia Z for daily use
It still perform well without any lag
I usually use it to listen musics.surf the net....
It can even run a lot of games!!
the only defect is it's poor screen and poor battery life...it too bad
but all in all, I think Xperia Z is still a execellent phone!
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What do you mean poor battery.
Is it okay or really bad?
I don't use my phone with screen on for too long.
I once had a galaxy nexus and that thing would drain like 1% a minute with screen on!
In the span of 30 minutes my battery was like a 70!
Xperia Z is good but it was a history..
i'm using Xperia ZL though, there no different between this Z and ZL since there are brother more like a twin..
both of it sucks at battery life if you upgrade to android 5.0.2 which means you have made one mistakes and you will experience phone overheating like you can put your pan and make omelette on it with the battery draining like hell when display remain on because i only got less than 4 hours if device screen remain on plus the camera won't be capturing nice photo anymore even the android version is rising up from 4.1.2 tp 5.02, but the camera quality is falling down and down..
Positive sides is...
The music? i admit my ZL in 5.0.2 sounds better..no scary sound like others, i got more clarity of my music..
i salute for this phone is still smooth eventhough 2 years old and quite satisfying performance but poor battery life.. Well that's it.. my opinion..
I'm migrating to Lenovo Vibe Shot until 5.1.1 is out.. Goodbye
Good to know, wasn't Sony supposed to roll out updates for Android 5.1 this month?
Not sure if it will updated or not, when I receive it.
As to me,the battery drop 1% in 2-3min
I think...if you use it just for receiving phone call
It can satisfy you of course.
But if you want to play games or surf the net
I would suggest you to do it with a powerbank
If you don't care about battery problem and photo quality
Xperia Z will be very suit for you !
The screen isn't that bad, only at angle viewing, not when viewing straightforward.
Also, battery should be replaced after 12 months, for every phones brand so..
And I use custom kernel which throttles the cpu when it gets warm so my phone stays cool
But I'm afraid with tmobile u can't unlock bootloader and therefore not flash custom kernels.
Anyway, I think this phone is still a good one to get. (better that windows phone lol xD)
It was actually sony's flagship in 2013..
Are the dock connectors on the side the same from Z-Z3?
Some of the magnetic cables that use the connectors say only Z1,Z2,Z3.
They never mention Original Z, so did they change the connectors for the dock after the Original Z?
Yes. The Z have different connectors than Z1, Z2 and Z3. Each Z phone have a specific dock for charging. I don't recommend the magnetic charging cables.
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If you set screen brightness to 70%, battery life isn't that bad. Screen is ok when you normally look at it. Also,you can downgrade Android version and everything will much better! No heating,better battery life, better photos...
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hmm since it will be getting tmobile version, is it that hard to downgrade?
One last thing, what docks do you use for the xperia Z.
The Sony docks are kind of expensive and have seen some cheaper ones for like $10.
Would a third-party dock work well?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DBVV8QA/ref=twister_B00DAV8Q1G?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Got this one for $3.86, since I had like $4 in amazon credit.
we'll see how slow it charges, most third party chargers charge really slow.
Also any big issues to be aware of?
I've seen some forum post of people saying the phone screen cracked without them touching it.
SD cards being killed by the phone.
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...my-ear-Screen-cracked-from/m-p/317879#U317879
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...-touching-or-dropping-it/m-p/1002815#U1002815
They seemed a bit far fetched.... kind of funny just reading the post.
Sony phones have very bad service centers. That's a big Sony's problem
daniLaLaLaLaLa said:
Xperia Z is good but it was a history..
i'm using Xperia ZL though, there no different between this Z and ZL since there are brother more like a twin..
both of it sucks at battery life if you upgrade to android 5.0.2 which means you have made one mistakes and you will experience phone overheating like you can put your pan and make omelette on it with the battery draining like hell when display remain on because i only got less than 4 hours if device screen remain on plus the camera won't be capturing nice photo anymore even the android version is rising up from 4.1.2 tp 5.02, but the camera quality is falling down and down..
Positive sides is...
The music? i admit my ZL in 5.0.2 sounds better..no scary sound like others, i got more clarity of my music..
i salute for this phone is still smooth eventhough 2 years old and quite satisfying performance but poor battery life.. Well that's it.. my opinion..
I'm migrating to Lenovo Vibe Shot until 5.1.1 is out.. Goodbye
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I just bought a 2nd hand Xperia Z,and it asked me to update so I pressed it and I end up with 5.0.2. Battery runs out on me twice a day pretty heavy user, I got the paid version of poweramp and about £20 worth of widgets and skins for poweramp player and I can only use the default skin and widget, and I mainly use it just for music, I tried to root my phonyyesterday with kingroot and it worked, I don't know what happened but I got rid of the root, as I didn't know what to do after I rooted, I want to use custom rom and delete unused apps what I never use, if anyone got any help for me after rooting, I wasn't able to update SuperSu it wouldn't update, I don't know what ideas doing really.
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I got the phone today and it's on 4.3.
Any way to root it?
edit: I rooted the phone, a lot easier than I thought.
Now since the tmobile version is locked bootloader.
What is the best Android version to have on on the Xperia Z?
jms_209 said:
I got the phone today and it's on 4.3.
Any way to root it?
edit: I rooted the phone, a lot easier than I thought.
Now since the tmobile version is locked bootloader.
What is the best Android version to have on on the Xperia Z?
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4.3 is perfect. Stay with it until 5.1 is released.
I'm posting this as i think Sony doesn't know what they are doing anymore, they are not in control of their mobile dev department, its a real mess.
After years of experiencing android market, Sony reinventing the wheel every time they come up with something new, the latest example is the Z5 series
they released a device with half a day battery life under fair usage, they are marketing it as a 2 days battery ready
they forgot to add the correct drivers for the bluetooth and wifi, that's why the bower consumption is really high when both left on without connecting to BT headset or Wi-Fi
the camera is far from the expectations, lagy, hardly focus, image optimization is at the worst, extremely noisy, file size is at the highest, please do a fair comparison between this camera and any other mid-range device, even Huawei doing much better than Sony camera, the weird thing is they are selling their camera module to most of the high-end manufacturers, but others knows how to perfectly use this module.
even their own apps like "Smart Connect" it doesn't trigger the required action upon device pairing to a bluetooth for example
Stamina Clock disconnects the mobile data believe me it does
"Adaptive Brightness" is not correctly functioning, it extremely exposure the screen brightness for seconds before it detects the correct settings
sound drivers are sh*^%&t, stereo speakers are not well calibrated, and after every Facebook call or disconnecting noise cancelling headset, I have to readjust ringer and call volumes again
Sony fans stay away please, no need for (my device lasts for full 5 years with only 10% battery) as this is a lie, I factory rest and repaired my device 6 times with all possible settings before I post this, this post is not for you guys, I was a Sony fan, starting from Xperia Z, Z1, Z2, Z3, and finally this sh%^ty Z5P, and unfortunately am an advanced user and i know Sony mobiles behavior
Good luck everyone, stay away from Sony mobiles this year if you care about your money, you won't be satisfied unless you are a beginner, or you have the patience to wait for months for an update to fix a bug and bug another, till finally after ages they fix their firmware.
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hahah you sure bro ? you got all that problem in your phone ? is that even legit Sony product or maybe you buy the cloned one hahahha . I think the problem is you or let's say your phone only because every error that you mentioned is all just story .
1. My phone takes almost 2 day before it drain : game , facebook , music . Also i think you need to learn to read , Sony announced it 2days in Standby mode , really are you fan of Sony . Nice story .
2.Do you know the correct drivers your talking about ? My wifi is on always i dont get that problem.
3. LMAO the CAMERA this one , really ? Sony Camera is SUPERB ! Even my friends who used Samsung , Iphones they know Z5 Camera is better . This the best hahaha .
4.Smart Connect ? Even this one you got problem hahahahah !
5.I used Stamina Clock and I can still use mobile data with LTE .
6.The adaptive brightness is very good also . You know i dont know whats your problem retarded hahaha .
7.Lastly the Music , ow common . Sony's Stereo is great .
Dont listen to this guy claiming he is a Sony Fan hahahah . Its easy to say that your a Sony Fan . Actually your a great Story Teller on the other side . Laughing very hard to this post haha . Almost all the details in the phone you got the problem seriously ? Your too obvious . I pity you , all story that you mentioned i didnt even got one . I hope i have atleast one ! hahahah
True Sony Z5 Series Xperia User can tell it . I know others will get some problems just like all other phones but not all the problems that you mentioned . Cool Story Bro ! Cheers
Im very proud with this phone.
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Lucky you, none even one problem with your Xperia Z5P, that's cool while Sony knows these issues and promising for an upcoming update to fix these issues, you -the only one on planet- who has none of the above at all, and I'm the story teller??
please check the following:
a professional reply from Sony here, not a childish one as yours (the guy with no issues) https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...isappointed/m-p/1071489/highlight/false#M5004 check Sony reply and awareness of these issues
Adaptive Brightness Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/help/screen-looking-washed-t3265869
Stareo Speakers Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/sound-problem-z5-premium-t3264852
these are just examples, i can post tons of links
Hossam.Abdelsalam said:
Lucky you, none even one problem with your Xperia Z5P, that's cool while Sony knows these issues and promising for an upcoming update to fix these issues, you -the only one on planet- who has none of the above at all, and I'm the story teller??
please check the following:
a professional reply from Sony here, not a childish one as yours (the guy with no issues) https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...isappointed/m-p/1071489/highlight/false#M5004 check Sony reply and awareness of these issues
Adaptive Brightness Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/help/screen-looking-washed-t3265869
Stareo Speakers Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/sound-problem-z5-premium-t3264852
these are just examples, i can post tons of links
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You sound like a fairly smart and technical dude so I'll give u the benefit of the doubt and try to stay constructive.
There are a number of quirks with the Z5P that we all wished were not there, just like there are many quirks with every single phone in it's first months of release
There will be fixes for the MINOR bugs you are mentioning and there is no reason to blow it out of proportion like a teenager on her first period. I mean if Smart Connect, adaptive brightness(no issue here), Stamina clock and readjusting volume after FB call is you idea of "STAY AWAY FROM SONY" issues, I think you have some serious unresolved ones. Not trying to offend you, just a friendly observation.
As far as camera, battery and wireless drivers(?!), you either got a faulty device, or you are smoking some fine dope and I want in on it
Camera pics (low light especially) made a pal of mine switch to Z5 from an iPhone. I was at a party on Saturday and people were borrowing my phone to take pics and send to themselves afterwards. As objective as it comes. .
I haven't switched off BT or WiFi ever since I became a Sony user(Z, Z1, Z2). Z5P does noticeably worse than my Z2, which was a power stamina beast, but it still holds up to the two day promise Sony makes (~4 hours of screen time, stamina mode - On, wifi/BT - On, adaptive brightness set to medium). I easily start a morning with 100% and last to next day evening. I am not a power user and rarely play games on it, so if you do, I can see your frustration. The Snapdragon 810 is infamous with its power starve.
As for the "tons" of links with bad feedback, it is true for every single piece of hardware. Simple human behavior is that they rarely write on a forum about a positive experience.
My advice is, write down all the issues you are having, send back your phone for a warranty service (even invent a few if it helps your case) and see if they can swap it.
Otherwise you can keep whining and badmouthing, it's your choice, but it's also no way to live a life Put a nice smile on and make it better
Cheers
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You sound like a fairly smart and technical dude so I'll give u the benefit of the doubt and try to stay constructive.
There are a number of quirks with the Z5P that we all wished were not there, just like there are many quirks with every single phone in it's first months of release
There will be fixes for the MINOR bugs you are mentioning and there is no reason to blow it out of proportion like a teenager on her first period. I mean if Smart Connect, adaptive brightness(no issue here), Stamina clock and readjusting volume after FB call is you idea of "STAY AWAY FROM SONY" issues, I think you have some serious unresolved ones. Not trying to offend you, just a friendly observation.
As far as camera, battery and wireless drivers(?!), you either got a faulty device, or you are smoking some fine dope and I want in on it
Camera pics (low light especially) made a pal of mine switch to Z5 from an iPhone. I was at a party on Saturday and people were borrowing my phone to take pics and send to themselves afterwards. As objective as it comes. .
I haven't switched off BT or WiFi ever since I became a Sony user(Z, Z1, Z2). Z5P does noticeably worse than my Z2, which was a power stamina beast, but it still holds up to the two day promise Sony makes (~4 hours of screen time, stamina mode - On, wifi/BT - On, adaptive brightness set to medium). I easily start a morning with 100% and last to next day evening. I am not a power user and rarely play games on it, so if you do, I can see your frustration. The Snapdragon 810 is infamous with its power starve.
As for the "tons" of links with bad feedback, it is true for every single piece of hardware. Simple human behavior is that they rarely write on a forum about a positive experience.
My advice is, write down all the issues you are having, send back your phone for a warranty service (even invent a few if it helps your case) and see if they can swap it.
Otherwise you can keep whining and badmouthing, it's your choice, but it's also no way to live a life Put a nice smile on and make it better
Cheers
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I'm on the fence on choosing a z5premium or a iPhone 6s plus. ..which one do you think I should get? How's the front camera on the z5premium I'm into social media and use snap chat alot so I want a good selfie camera. .as well as a good rear camera and how long do you guys think the next premium model drops ?
Which version of the premium do you have? Is it dual? Is it E6883? I wonder if bugs are only in certain versions of the phone. Especially the battery issue. I got the dual E6883 and I feel like the battery is not lasting how it should.
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I'm on the fence on choosing a z5premium or a iPhone 6s plus. ..which one do you think I should get? How's the front camera on the z5premium I'm into social media and use snap chat alot so I want a good selfie camera. .as well as a good rear camera and how long do you guys think the next premium model drops ?
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Both have a good front facing camera. The Sony one captures a little more (wider lens) but the quality is not different enough to drive a decision. Right now, before a Firmware update, you'll be happier with the 6s Plus.
After Sony releases a couple of updates, I think the Sony will be the better phone.
The rear camera is better on the Sony but that is subjective to my picture preferences. On the objective side, Sony's lenses are much wider and capture more of the scene and it has a camera button, which I wouldn't swap for anything. the 6s Plus does have OIS tho. Videos tend to be a little less shaky.
pick the one u like in your hand. I am not a fan of apple's product line but that's on a personal level so I can't recommend against it.
gd luck
P.S. If you'r not in a hurry, my advice is - wait till spring. The Z6 line will be a lot better. Rumors are there will be 5 screen sizes to pick from and lot of goodies. And in case they suck, you can grab the Z5P cheaper. The only reason I got mine was a random Black Friday promo for 50% off
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Both have a good front facing camera. The Sony one captures a little more (wider lens) but the quality is not different enough to drive a decision. Right now, before a Firmware update, you'll be happier with the 6s Plus.
After Sony releases a couple of updates, I think the Sony will be the better phone.
The rear camera is better on the Sony but that is subjective to my picture preferences. On the objective side, Sony's lenses are much wider and capture more of the scene and it has a camera button, which I wouldn't swap for anything the 6s Plus does have OIS tho. Videos tend to be a little less shaky.
pick the one u like in your hand. I am not a fan of apple's product line but that's on a personal level so I can't recommend against it
gd luck
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Probably when the marshmallow update drops soon it will be alot better huh? Yeah the camera button would be nice !! i wanted a rear camera closest to a dslr so the z5p is probably that. I heard the z5p has a better stabilizer..Do you think a new model z5p will drop soon? i guess thats my main concern, i dont want the phone to depreciate after Christmas and i know iphones dont hardly do that haha. Hows your battery life ??
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bahkata said:
Both have a good front facing camera. The Sony one captures a little more (wider lens) but the quality is not different enough to drive a decision. Right now, before a Firmware update, you'll be happier with the 6s Plus.
After Sony releases a couple of updates, I think the Sony will be the better phone.
The rear camera is better on the Sony but that is subjective to my picture preferences. On the objective side, Sony's lenses are much wider and capture more of the scene and it has a camera button, which I wouldn't swap for anything. the 6s Plus does have OIS tho. Videos tend to be a little less shaky.
pick the one u like in your hand. I am not a fan of apple's product line but that's on a personal level so I can't recommend against it.
gd luck
P.S. If you'r not in a hurry, my advice is - wait till spring. The Z6 line will be a lot better. Rumors are there will be 5 screen sizes to pick from and lot of goodies. And in case they suck, you can grab the Z5P cheaper. The only reason I got mine was a random Black Friday promo for 50% off
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edit: Do they still have that black friday promo? lol and i should probably get a iphone 6s plus then since i can easily resell it for alot (seem to hold value). i found a 6s plus 128gb for $700 new
Nah, was just a 12 hour promo on a Swedish provider
If u want to hold value, iPhone would be a better option. U'll be happy with both.
Battery is fine. I miss my Z2's marathon stamina but I easily get two days and it will get better with andro M.
In the end, its a lifestyle choice, dude. They cover different needs and have a different customer base. If u want pretty, shiny and easy to use - go 6s Plus. If u want to tinker, customize and a more real experience in a tougher shell - its Sony. Go play with both of them in a store.
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Nah, was just a 12 hour promo on a Swedish provider
If u want to hold value, iPhone would be a better option. U'll be happy with both.
Battery is fine. I miss my Z2's marathon stamina but I easily get two days and it will get better with andro M.
In the end, its a lifestyle choice, dude. They cover different needs and have a different customer base. If u want pretty, shiny and easy to use - go 6s Plus. If u want to tinker, customize and a more real experience in a tougher shell - its Sony. Go play with both of them in a store.
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2 days seems amazing, on my s6 edge plus i sold i got around 10hrs only with probably 2-3sot. Guess i gotta think this through lol... do you have any camera samples? or any samples on instagram or something ?
Thats quite disappointing. People here don't like it when they get "only" 4-5 hrs SOT on the Z5P
check here -> http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z5_premium-review-1344.php
loads of samples and a decent review
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You sound like a fairly smart and technical dude so I'll give u the benefit of the doubt and try to stay constructive.
There are a number of quirks with the Z5P that we all wished were not there, just like there are many quirks with every single phone in it's first months of release
There will be fixes for the MINOR bugs you are mentioning and there is no reason to blow it out of proportion like a teenager on her first period. I mean if Smart Connect, adaptive brightness(no issue here), Stamina clock and readjusting volume after FB call is you idea of "STAY AWAY FROM SONY" issues, I think you have some serious unresolved ones. Not trying to offend you, just a friendly observation.
As far as camera, battery and wireless drivers(?!), you either got a faulty device, or you are smoking some fine dope and I want in on it
Camera pics (low light especially) made a pal of mine switch to Z5 from an iPhone. I was at a party on Saturday and people were borrowing my phone to take pics and send to themselves afterwards. As objective as it comes. .
I haven't switched off BT or WiFi ever since I became a Sony user(Z, Z1, Z2). Z5P does noticeably worse than my Z2, which was a power stamina beast, but it still holds up to the two day promise Sony makes (~4 hours of screen time, stamina mode - On, wifi/BT - On, adaptive brightness set to medium). I easily start a morning with 100% and last to next day evening. I am not a power user and rarely play games on it, so if you do, I can see your frustration. The Snapdragon 810 is infamous with its power starve.
As for the "tons" of links with bad feedback, it is true for every single piece of hardware. Simple human behavior is that they rarely write on a forum about a positive experience.
My advice is, write down all the issues you are having, send back your phone for a warranty service (even invent a few if it helps your case) and see if they can swap it.
Otherwise you can keep whining and badmouthing, it's your choice, but it's also no way to live a life Put a nice smile on and make it better
Cheers
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Thanks man for your reply, but when you pay around $850 to get a Z5P in my country -with no warranty BTW-, and after days of waiting for it to be delivered to find out you've paid this for a downgraded version of your current device (Z3) which lasts easily for a day with heavy use, most of issues were fixed (except for the call and ring volumes and Smart connect actions), battery smooth UI, no lags, fair camera, ...etc, imagine the impression man, paying such amount of money to be downgraded to half a day battery usage, software issues here and there, practically same camera results.
add to this, being in a poor country, no Sony support, all the above issues are hidden to the normal user, advanced digging needed to reach out for solutions, this is not like a teenager on her first period, this is called disappointment
Hossam.Abdelsalam said:
Thanks man for your reply, but when you pay around $850 to get a Z5P in my country -with no warranty BTW-, and after days of waiting for it to be delivered to find out you've paid this for a downgraded version of your current device (Z3) which lasts easily for a day with heavy use, most of issues were fixed (except for the call and ring volumes and Smart connect actions), battery smooth UI, no lags, fair camera, ...etc, imagine the impression man, paying such amount of money to be downgraded to half a day battery usage, software issues here and there, practically same camera results.
add to this, being in a poor country, no Sony support, all the above issues are hidden to the normal user, advanced digging needed to reach out for solutions, this is not like a teenager on her first period, this is called disappointment
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Im originally from Bulgaria, mate. I don't have to imagine. But being from the third world you must also be aware that the lowest quality batches get send there and you need to be extra careful. As far as warranty goes, there is no such thing as "no warranty" with a big name brand. You can always send it to a Sony service center outside your country. You just have to communicate that through the correct channels. I managed to do it with a Nokia and a Samsung in my teens. You are a big boy, you'll figure it out
Now the disappointment part. It's not the feeling I am referring to. It's the process you are going through to handle it. This is a forum where people come together to be helpful/get help. Thanks to topics and posts like yours it is becoming a mundane and unhelpful place where people come to vent and whine without really seeking a solution, which makes it a less helpful place. Essentially you are making the world a ****tier place. By a very little amount of course, but it contributes
What was wrong with posting in the Q&A, troubleshooting section, explaining your problems and ask nicely if people have the same and what could be a solution?
Also don't be mad at Yolo. He has the right to be frustrated, just cannot express it very well.
I have the 6853 and honestly it works great... The camera is definitely better than the iPhone 6S+...my wife uses that and I took a ton of pictures using both...the Sony is considerably better...no phone is perfect but right now I don't think there's anything better than the Z5P...Android M will be out soon and it will only get better...the one thing that Sony is wrong on is Battery....as a heavy user, I get one full day usage, not 2...but its usually hovering around 15-20% when I finally put it back on the charger...another thing I noticed was that Sony's quick charger is slower than others...I have a $9 certified Qualcomm quick charger I got from Amazon that charges the phone from 2-3% to 100% in one hour...and I get it up to like 70% in 30-35 minutes.
Only battery drain a little bit too fast other then is perfect for me.
Before z5p I had use moto x prue ,nexus 6p, lumia 950xl but I feel z5p is better one
i've used the z, z1, z ultra (still have this beast), z3, z3 tablet compact, and recently got the z5 premium.
I've never gotten a lemon in any of those devices, and none of those problems happened to me before.
the z5 premium's performance is blowing all those out of the waters now so I guess I'm just one lucky son of a gun
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i've used the z, z1, z ultra (still have this beast), z3, z3 tablet compact, and recently got the z5 premium.
I've never gotten a lemon in any of those devices, and none of those problems happened to me before.
the z5 premium's performance is blowing all those out of the waters now so I guess I'm just one lucky son of a gun
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I am still using my Z1 and it has never had a single issue in over two years but I am contemplating getting the Z5 Premium in black.
How would you rate it next to the Z1, take into consideration that o have not used or owned any other Z series device.
Would it be a massive jump and difference in user experience, in a positive manner?
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I'm on the fence on choosing a z5premium or a iPhone 6s plus. ..which one do you think I should get? How's the front camera on the z5premium I'm into social media and use snap chat alot so I want a good selfie camera. .as well as a good rear camera and how long do you guys think the next premium model drops ?
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I'll be brutally honest here. Go with the iPhone. It's the best phone for social media. I've been using the Z5premium for a little longer than a week now and I can tell you that the front facing camera is definitely not as good as the one on the iPhone. It also doesn't take pictures as fast as the iPhone does. However I will say that the Z5's rear camera does take better photos than the iPhone, albeit slower due to post-processing.
There's also a weird glitch with the camera when taking videos of extremely detailed subjects on Snapchat. I don't know when this will be fixed, but I do know that it looks distorted and really weird. I wish I could show you a sample, but the snap was a few days ago.
This is not to say that I don't love this phone though. For more reasons I like this phone better than my iPhone. There are just a few things that the iPhone simply does better. But hey, no phone is perfect.
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I'll be brutally honest here. Go with the iPhone. It's the best phone for social media. I've been using the Z5premium for a little longer than a week now and I can tell you that the front facing camera is definitely not as good as the one on the iPhone. It also doesn't take pictures as fast as the iPhone does. However I will say that the Z5's rear camera does take better photos than the iPhone, albeit slower due to post-processing.
There's also a weird glitch with the camera when taking videos of extremely detailed subjects on Snapchat. I don't know when this will be fixed, but I do know that it looks distorted and really weird. I wish I could show you a sample, but the snap was a few days ago.
This is not to say that I don't love this phone though. For more reasons I like this phone better than my iPhone. There are just a few things that the iPhone simply does better. But hey, no phone is perfect.
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i ended up ordering a 6s+ on ebay haha thanks for replying back! I know exactly what you mean, they haven't optimized the camera yet for snapchat i had that happen with my old g4 ..only way to fix that is to use the 3rd party snapchat app called "casper" it allows you to use original camera app. idk what it is but iphones always tend to have the better front camera even with being a lower resolution. Main reason i did not get the z5p is because there is rumors with the z6 plus/ultra coming out soon so i would rather stick with something that wont depreciate yenno
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hello to every one . pls read this and think about .
I am a mobile repair specialist and seller too . in 2017I sold a few models of doogee . Each had its own problems
(fingerprint ,bad battery , not ota update,bad 4g and more . So I changed them with other brands
I decided to install them firmware again , Each one found a new problem, and some diedد
so i send few email to company . after 3 month i recived this answer ( pls check our site
Now pay attention Do not waste your money
1- doogee havent a suporter for your problems
2- Doogee havent a good sound spk and calling voice
3-Most profiles are unrealistic ( camera . battery , finger print time , ota update,.........
4- There is no definite way to install the firmware, and any problem can be foundEven if they are of a model
5- If you have this brand, forget about updating to the newer Android
6- The handsets are not even supported by Google, for example, look at the Smart Lock .If available, it will be removed after reset by recovery or it will not have a face lock . check android 7 original options
7- Go to the site and you will see thousands of problems said and there are no answers
8- I was fired by writing the brand problems. Because they could not solve, but I will write on different sites.
9- ok now , you can read and writing your comment about my idea
I agree. Bought a Doogee Mix and its trash. The system is buggy, gps overheats the phone and restarts, very very bad wifi... I dont remember more things, but I stopped using it many months ago. Trash phone.
Doogee mix is just a scrap.
I also had similar problem and finally after 4 month I have to throw away.
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hello to every one . pls read this'll and think about .
I am a mobile repair specialist and seller too . in 2017I sold a few models of doogee . Each had its own problems
(fingerprint ,bad battery , not ota update,bad 4g and more . So I changed them with other brands
I decided to install them firmware again , Each one found a new problem, and some diedد
so i send few email to company . after 3 month i recived this answer ( pls check our site
Now pay attention Do not waste your money
1- doogee havent a suporter for your problems
2- Doogee havent a good sound spk and calling voice
3-Most profiles are unrealistic ( camera . battery , finger print time , ota update,.........
4- There is no definite way to install the firmware, and any problem can be foundEven if they are of a model
5- If you have this brand, forget about updating to the newer Android
6- The handsets are not even supported by Google, for example, look at the Smart Lock .If available, it will be removed after reset by recovery or it will not have a face lock . check android 7 original options
7- Go to the site and you will see thousands of problems said and there are no answers
8- I was fired by writing the brand problems. Because they could not solve, but I will write on different sites.
9- ok now , you can read and writing your comment about my idea
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it is a brand to ban, no support and devices have too many problems.
The MIX smartphone is very fragile, the screen and the rear glass is broken after only two falls at low height.
The charger heats up with a strange smell and a very unpleasant whistle.
GPS is not accurate, there is no optimization, the device heats, the sound is disgusting you hear nothing in call! the double camera is false, etc...
To ban !!!
Now it's on trash
I agree, never
I agree. Doogee is garbage. I got the f7 pro when it first came out. Nothing but problems. Nothing up to spec
HaHAHa, WTF? The camera is a big big garbage, indeed. With root and a little bit tweaking, this phone rocks.
@Digo69 show me one high price gorilla glass phone, (with front and back glass) that falls to the ground from more than 50cm height and nothing is damaged. Come on. Post a video and show me that phone plz.
Because I am a pro photographer, I don't care if a smartphone camera is brilliant or not. The Doogee's one is 100% garbage. The rest of the phone is great (in this price segment) and I am a heavy and frequent user.
bit of an old thread but not to old.
Im after ordering the S90, Im really looking forward to it arriving.
I dont care about the aftercare from the company, Im after having 3 oukitel phones over the last few years and they have non existent aftercare when it comes to their phones.
I have the miracle box and I can replace screens if they break so Im happy.
seanybiker said:
bit of an old thread but not to old.
Im after ordering the S90, Im really looking forward to it arriving.
I dont care about the aftercare from the company, Im after having 3 oukitel phones over the last few years and they have non existent aftercare when it comes to their phones.
I have the miracle box and I can replace screens if they break so Im happy.
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Any luck? did your phone arrive? how did you order it?
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Any luck? did your phone arrive? how did you order it?
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Yeah i got it from ali express. Deadly phone. I ordered the complete bundle and the ****ehawk I ordered it from never sent the wireless charger and the gamepad module , he started to ignore me so I just got bored and gave a lovely update on the review hahaha.
The usb port is gone a bit wonky I on mine. I use the power bank anyways so that doesnt bother me. .Love the phone.
seanybiker said:
Yeah i got it from ali express. Deadly phone. I ordered the complete bundle and the ****ehawk I ordered it from never sent the wireless charger and the gamepad module , he started to ignore me so I just got bored and gave a lovely update on the review hahaha.
The usb port is gone a bit wonky I on mine. I use the power bank anyways so that doesnt bother me. .Love the phone.
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Yeah, I had an S70lte, liked it enough thought Id order the full fat version. I never got a reply from the doogeemall.com webstore. they never once replied to any messages, so I just cancelled payment through my bank. If they don't have time to address customer concerns they don't need my money. I also noticed in the delay my order sat un-filled the price of the phone kept dropping and they still didn't send mine. Tough to want to get another after that.
I brought doogee s90. the touch doesn't work. I have to lock and unlock to make it work and the phone keeps on restarting. done factory reset but no use. the company doesn't respond to query .is there any way to fix it
100% AGREE
Same for me !
I bought a S90 ,I can still make calls with it BUT if I try to install an app ,it crashes ,whatever it is !
My wife bought a S70 Lite ,working BUT if anybody try to call her ,he can ear his own voice as a loud echo ...
So I agree !
Did I get Lucky? I have been using XDA for ... since they were created and only today created an account to post. I bought a Doogee S90 2 years back. Love the phone, its hardcore rugged and lasted. Took this thing in the ocean in Mexico (vaca) multiple water rafting trips and it awesome. Soda, food spills? Just wash it in the sink. it has been thrown, dropped many times and never a screen crack or damage.Everything works GREAT. I never experience the phone everyone posts online..... not once. I added a 128gb storage, game on it all the time and more. Even now, I'm Still using the phone 2 years later. I have never owned a Phone as tough and rugged as this. Heck, even works with Cricket Wireless (my carrier/AT&T network clone).
Only issues I have had so far.... I never got the night vision or camera attachment working, that never worked. CB radio worked, fm radio worked, 5g and more all works. Phone is water proof and tough as hell.... yea throw it across the street and wash it under the sink, take it kayaking, fishing and underwater (ive done these things), no issues there.
other issue, no android support or upgrades. the Doogee company is JUNK/Crap for not supporting their software, no firmware updates. I'm still stuck on Droid 8.1 in 2021 and im now searching like hell for a ROM hack. I want to install droid 10 or 11.... but i can't find anything. Never a software patch to fix the night-vision that never worked or cam attachment.
This may be my last Doogee phone, I read all the new phones from Doogee will not support Cricket/AT&T network bands......
SO... I love the rugged phone, whats the Doogee competitor?
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HaHAHa, WTF? The camera is a big big garbage, indeed. With root and a little bit tweaking, this phone rocks.
@Digo69 show me one high price gorilla glass phone, (with front and back glass) that falls to the ground from more than 50cm height and nothing is damaged. Come on. Post a video and show me that phone plz.
Because I am a pro photographer, I don't care if a smartphone camera is brilliant or not. The Doogee's one is 100% garbage. The rest of the phone is great (in this price segment) and I am a heavy and frequent user.
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Hey I'm new here. I bought a DOOGEE S86 off eBay about 6-months ago and couldn't be more pleased.
Everything works great, have dropped it about 15' off the roof a couple times. It's been swimming in my pond about 10' once. The 8500mah battery lasts me for 2 days 48 hrs. and that's using it playing videos, listening to music, using tools such as level, distance measurer, protractor, all while I might have anywhere from 20 to 50 web pages open on 4 different browsers.
I'm hard on phones. Also I still have 4g LTE service when all my friends phones can't even get a signal. Loudspeaker is awesome clear and loud.
I own S68Pro for quite a few years. It's a BRICK. You could use it as a deadly weapon. Armored as hell and heavy. Still works.
But ZERO droid updates. Do not EVER expect any software update from Doogee after the initial software.
Been using it with lineage OS since almost the start. Most things work except sound hiccups when calling with someone making it almost unusable for phone calls.
Using it for navigation/internet/backup phone since.
That said I would not buy phone without software support ever again.
As written in another post they do not release kernel source so there is not much to be done about getting newer droid on it.
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I have an s86pro, rooted via magisk. And, apart from a few aesthetic inconveniences the android 10, and the absence of OTA update. Nothing to report for this model. It's true that you can easily kill someone with it. I got tired of "big" brands telling you that your phone is dead because you keep it in your pocket. Corrosion. No kidding... I'm not going to take a bag just to carry a cell phone. My s86pro fell from high, lots of times, it took fleet and other liquid, 4g+bt+24/7 hotspot, and it's my daily pda, etc., etc. Nickel autonomy. So yes it is heavy but damn it does the job and it does it well. I do not know the other models of the brand, but this model I vote for. And in customer service, they don't know their products. Contacted by email for info, unable to give an answer related to the question. In short, like most customer service these days.
In any case I like this model, great ratio / quality / price.
Hi. I have the Doogee Max V 5g, switching over from the Ulefone Armor 10 5g in late 2020 when Blu was dragging its heels getting into the 5G game and the last few Vivo X models totally sucked plus I was breaking them much faster than when I initially got on board in 2006.
Apparently I lucked out with the Ulefone Armor 10 because my speaker lasted 2 years. Most complain that theirs go sooner than that AND I was able to get mine to work on ATT. While I found the speaker for the cheap price of $8.47, no one knows how to repair it.
So, based on a cnet review that the Doogee Max V 5g blew the new Ulefone Armor 18T 5g out of the water and the specs were superior, while the prices were similar and Doogee came with an extended warranty, the decision was simple.
One nano hitch: Android 12 -- one can no longer record phone conversations from native phone app. (Caveat: no matter what you see in app store, telephone apps have been blocked from recording calls since Android 9)
I absolutely must be able to record phone calls for meetings etc.
Otherwise, I love this phone!! Yup, it's heavy, as are most rugged phones. A good thing since I often drop the poor thing on the face plate several times a day!! Nighttime, infrared and under water photography is a breeze.
We'll see how rooting with Magisk to make the telephone recording available goes.