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Nexus 6, the worst phone Google made??

I have been using this phone for almost a month now, and God knows I love it, I love how big it is and how defining it's colors are but being a premium expensive phone it didn't deliver as was expected of it, I see a lot of threads regarding frozen screens, speaker stuttering, lagging, random reboots and many other bugs which are not all software related, shouldn't it be better if they make a phone like Nexus 5. Flagship but relatively mid priced, Comment if you guys are happy with your Nexus 6.

Yasharkhan said:
I have been using this phone for almost a month now, and God knows I love it, I love how big it is and how defining it's colors are but being a premium expensive phone it didn't deliver as was expected of it, I see a lot of threads regarding frozen screens, speaker stuttering, lagging, random reboots and many other bugs which are not all software related, shouldn't it be better if they make a phone like Nexus 5. Flagship but relatively mid priced, Comment if you guys are happy with your Nexus 6.
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Mine doesn't exhibit any of those problems you have listed. It's better than any other android powered phone I've used.

Yasharkhan said:
I have been using this phone for almost a month now, and God knows I love it, I love how big it is and how defining it's colors are but being a premium expensive phone it didn't deliver as was expected of it, I see a lot of threads regarding frozen screens, speaker stuttering, lagging, random reboots and many other bugs which are not all software related, shouldn't it be better if they make a phone like Nexus 5. Flagship but relatively mid priced, Comment if you guys are happy with your Nexus 6.
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I, personally, don't have any of the issues you've mentioned. I run my Nexus 100% stock and encrypted. I do agree that there are some reported bugs, but IMHO, most are software related. Hopefully you'll find a device that you are happy with, but I assure you, many of us here are very satisfied with the Nexus 6.

Have non of those... Give yours LSD instead of Lollypop!

I experienced issues upgrading to 5.1. First time I tried I started getting reboots about every 5 minutes... Restored my backup. Updated a week later again... Lost all my sound, restored my backup. Waited another week or two... Updated again and it's doing okay now. Still have a few random freezes and reboots, but its rare.

No prob's here and I love the *#&%$ outta mine :good:

Mine has no problems and runs perfectly. I had more problems with my galaxy nexus than I've had with this phone. It's perfectly equipped to be in the premium category.

no problems with my nexus 6, and i love my nexus 5 as well! worst nexus? have you tried a nexus one, nexus s, galaxy nexus, or nexus 4?

No issues yet imho the front facing speakers and phablet size make it my dream phone. The only issue has been the forced encryption and only when I didn't read enough before flashing.
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simms22 said:
no problems with my nexus 6, and i love my nexus 5 as well! worst nexus? have you tried a nexus one, nexus s, galaxy nexus, or nexus 4?
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N4 wasn't bad at all... I jumped to 6 straight from 4 and I loved it! Especially with the hybrid radios and LTE enabled... Great looking Glass on the back...

Frostfire said:
No issues yet imho the front facing speakers and phablet size make it my dream phone. The only issue has been the forced encryption and only when I didn't read enough before flashing.
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The encryption is a lot less of an issue than you think. I've had every nexus minus the G1 and nexus 1.... This is hands down the best nexus.... The 5 is it's equal but the speakers,screen, and camera give the 6 a slight edge.

The worst Nexus phone made ? What ?
I have owned every Nexus phone, except the 5 due to the tiny crap battery they put in there.
I have two Nexus 6's, one for Wifey and me, and zero issues on either. We're both running Chroma ROM and this phone is a beast. Great screen, good battery life, nice speakers, super fast and smooth like flowing water.
Out of all of the Nexus phones, I put this up there as one of the best. And after a few weeks of use, the large size becomes comfortably normal.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA mobile app

No problems at all with my Nexus 6, love it.

Idk man. I went from the note 4 to the nexus 6 to the iPhone 6 plus and back to a cloud white 64gb nexus 6. This is the best phone I've had period.

BigDig said:
N4 wasn't bad at all... I jumped to 6 straight from 4 and I loved it! Especially with the hybrid radios and LTE enabled... Great looking Glass on the back...
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it was a good nexus, but i loved them all. it did have an issue with thermal throttling though, even through i always kept it disabled. i ended up selling it, just weeks ago. it was in perfect shape as well. its too bad that i needed the money
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Smallsmx3 said:
The encryption is a lot less of an issue than you think. I've had every nexus minus the G1 and nexus 1.... This is hands down the best nexus.... The 5 is it's equal but the speakers,screen, and camera give the 6 a slight edge.
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the screen and especially the speakers give it a HUGE edge, even though i use my n5 nearly daily as well(at work, on wifi).

If mine had breasts I'd marry it.
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Yasharkhan said:
I have been using this phone for almost a month now, and God knows I love it, I love how big it is and how defining it's colors are but being a premium expensive phone it didn't deliver as was expected of it, I see a lot of threads regarding frozen screens, speaker stuttering, lagging, random reboots and many other bugs which are not all software related, shouldn't it be better if they make a phone like Nexus 5. Flagship but relatively mid priced, Comment if you guys are happy with your Nexus 6.
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No. The Galaxy Nexus is the worst phone Google never made (Google doesn't make phones).

Only problem I have is the terrible battery life. I'm a heavy user and get 5 hours of battery life on average (with android wear watch connected).
For comparison, my previous handset was an Xperia Z3 and with the exact same usage habits, I got 12+ hours.

adrynalyne said:
No. The Galaxy Nexus is the worst phone Google never made (Google doesn't make phones).
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Because of battery life or some signal issues? Or was it something else? I still use mine on 5.1.1 with my n6 and s4 everyday and other than battery and signal its a great phone. Now in town signal is fine and with the extended battery it's fine so I'm happy with it. Everyone of my android devices run 5.1.1, NP,n6,gnex,s4,touchpad, & nexus 7 and don't have a issue with any really but this n6 is the tits.

OP obviously has never heard of the GNex lol

This or the s7 edge?

I'm getting tired of the horrible camera from my note 3 and really bad build quality, so I'm thinking of getting a new flagship phone and pass my note to my girlfriend.
At the moment, I'm deciding between the nexus 6p and the newly released Galaxy s7 edge.
I used some AOSP roms on my Samsung and I fell in love with them, the ui was incredibly smooth and minimalistic, everything was flying except for the camera performance and poor battery life because somehow touchwizz had better drivers. I would really love a stock android rom on the premium body of the 6p, but I'm planning to use this phone for a long time, at least 3 years. So I was wondering if the s7 edge wouldn't be a better option, since it has better specs and should be more future proof.
How is the snapdragon 810 compared to the exynos 8890? Is the exynos much better?

lvnatic said:
I'm getting tired of the horrible camera from my note 3 and really bad build quality, so I'm thinking of getting a new flagship phone and pass my note to my girlfriend.
At the moment, I'm deciding between the nexus 6p and the newly released Galaxy s7 edge.
I used some AOSP roms on my Samsung and I fell in love with them, the ui was incredibly smooth and minimalistic, everything was flying except for the camera performance and poor battery life because somehow touchwizz had better drivers. I would really love a stock android rom on the premium body of the 6p, but I'm planning to use this phone for a long time, at least 3 years. So I was wondering if the s7 edge wouldn't be a better option, since it has better specs and should be more future proof.
How is the snapdragon 810 compared to the exynos 8890? Is the exynos much better?
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Well on benchmarks the the new exynos and SD 820 both beat the SD 810
But given you want to use the phone for 3 years I would suggest get a phone with more updates and developer support so that it works flawlessly till you buy your next phone ( so IMO buy nexus)

As a prior N3 user I can tell you the 6p is actually easier to hold however reviewers are praising the Sedge over any other phablet for its pocketability and ease-of-use 1-handed.
The 6p is a big ugly block in my pocket and can be uncomfortable when sitting. Everything else about it is amazing though. With pie controls (and there are non-root apps that do this) 1-handing it is a breeze.
I would say if you value updates, rooting/custom roms and don't care for touchwhiz then go for the Nexus. I'm guessing since you're on XDA you do. Leave the locked down Samsung nightmare behind.

Thanks for all the replies guys, I decided to buy the nexus in the end.
Here's why: I will use it for at least 3 years, so the constant updates are a big plus. Also, even if it has lower specs then the s7, the software is much more optimized. No matter how fluid and smooth touchwiz has become, no Samsung in this world runs better then stock android on the latest nexus flagship.
And even if it has slightly lower specs then the s7, they are still more then enough for what I'm planning to use it for: Internet browsing, YouTube, Facebook, clash of clans and taking pictures (I read that the camera is great).
The reason I'll be using it this much is that the store I buy it from, here in Romania, offers the possibility to get 1 or 2 more years of warranty, aside from the 2 years the device already comes with. And if do I get extra warranty, it becomes premium warranty. This means: if my device breaks and needs to be sent for repair, they send a courier to my door to pick the product for me, free of charge and free shipping. And if they don't fix the device within 5 working days, I can get a full refund of the initial price. That's right, after let's say 3 years, when this phone will be worth around 200-300$ in used condition, I can get the full 570$ I initially payed, if they can't fix the phone.
I already did that with my nexus 10 after a year, then got enough money to get the note 3. My note still has 2 more years and a few months of warranty, in which time I'm 100% positive that it will eventually break.
The note goes to my girlfriend and I decided that I want a new phone, a premium one that I'll be using for a long time while I have the 4 years warranty.

Congratz! enjoy your Nexus 6p Bad Boy on XDA.

U have had all galaxy S line. Trade my note 5 for nexus 6p which was my first nexus phone. I can tell u that i never felt in love with a phone ao much like the nexus 6p. Even the note 5 was driving crazy with lag in app like fb, youtube etc.
I have 2 galaxy s7 edge on preorder tmobile bogo, But will most likely will be sell both. I already went to the store like 5time to play with the edge. I have tried to really like it but i dont. It feel like a toy. Nexus 6p is more mature looking. S7 is faster but nexus 6p stock android is way smoother. Now with androis N releasinf in the fall i can see all galaxy s owner crying and waiting 6 month for a single update. Not only samsung releasing the update. But thwn u have to way for thw carrier to release them. 6.0.1 waa release a month agon on the note 5. Tmobile,att still have not.

Root s7 and forget that your device will go to deep sleep after reverting to stock ...
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Obviously 6p, we already have Android N!! lol

lvnatic said:
I'm getting tired of the horrible camera from my note 3 and really bad build quality, so I'm thinking of getting a new flagship phone and pass my note to my girlfriend.
At the moment, I'm deciding between the nexus 6p and the newly released Galaxy s7 edge.
I used some AOSP roms on my Samsung and I fell in love with them, the ui was incredibly smooth and minimalistic, everything was flying except for the camera performance and poor battery life because somehow touchwizz had better drivers. I would really love a stock android rom on the premium body of the 6p, but I'm planning to use this phone for a long time, at least 3 years. So I was wondering if the s7 edge wouldn't be a better option, since it has better specs and should be more future proof.
How is the snapdragon 810 compared to the exynos 8890? Is the exynos much better?
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@lvnatic You might want to see this. You made the right choice. (Cea mai bună alegere, am să-ți mai scriu în privat).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=65746519
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eduardmc said:
U have had all galaxy S line. Trade my note 5 for nexus 6p which was my first nexus phone. I can tell u that i never felt in love with a phone ao much like the nexus 6p. Even the note 5 was driving crazy with lag in app like fb, youtube etc.
I have 2 galaxy s7 edge on preorder tmobile bogo, But will most likely will be sell both. I already went to the store like 5time to play with the edge. I have tried to really like it but i dont. It feel like a toy. Nexus 6p is more mature looking. S7 is faster but nexus 6p stock android is way smoother. Now with androis N releasinf in the fall i can see all galaxy s owner crying and waiting 6 month for a single update. Not only samsung releasing the update. But thwn u have to way for thw carrier to release them. 6.0.1 waa release a month agon on the note 5. Tmobile,att still have not.
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I totally agree I mean the s6 is still on 5.1 by the time that updates to mashmelow then I android N, it might be years. That's why am sticking with nexus as got fed up waiting for updates from Sammy.

marvi0 said:
I totally agree I mean the s6 is still on 5.1 by the time that updates to mashmelow then I android N, it might be years. That's why am sticking with nexus as got fed up waiting for updates from Sammy.
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good to read all posts above, but need little help if you or someone could :
I am using Edge + for last 5 months and still waiting for MM to drop for my phone version
I am thinking to sell my edge + and buy 6P coz i love flashing roms and modifying system files
now what I have read everywhere, the screen is not better on 6P compare to edge +
camera software lags and can take time to save pictures if HDR is used (compare to edge + / Note 5)
starts lagging after the phone gets hot. or say the processor throttles down which I have never seen on my edge +
please tell me what above points are true or am I taking the right decision of selling Edge + for 6 P ?
sorry I can not see 6P in any mobile shop in my town, they sell but they don't have it on display....so I have to buy sealed pack without trying/using it first
I would appreciate if someone could help me take decision
Regards

I guess I'm too late, but I've owned both. And my answer would be S7 Edge without any question. I won't go into all the reasons since you already got the 6P. Definitely enjoy your device!

gitin said:
now what I have read everywhere, the screen is not better on 6P compare to edge +
camera software lags and can take time to save pictures if HDR is used (compare to edge + / Note 5)
starts lagging after the phone gets hot. or say the processor throttles down which I have never seen on my edge +
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This imo.

Elnrik said:
This imo.
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thanks for the reply !
alright so its just the display which I will miss right ?
i am reading thread where many have complained about the pink/grey tint issues with the display and even after getting their phone replaced so many times, its still not perfect
I guess, its something I won't like because my edge+ screen is perfect
now I have to decide, if I want perfect screen then s7 edge or nexus 6P if I need rom development
oooohhh tough call

gitin said:
alright so its just the display which I will miss right ?
i am reading thread where many have complained about the pink/grey tint issues with the display and even after getting their phone replaced so many times, its still not perfect
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You probably will miss the display. Sammy has great displays - arguably the best in the business. I attribute this to the brightness of the screen more than anything else.
I think the pink/grey thing is definitely not a predominant issue with the majority of the 6Ps being shipped. Most of my family have 6Ps based on my recommendation, and none of them have had that issue. Neither have the ones I've seen at Best Buy, or the ones my friends and colleagues use. If it weren't for the vocal few here, I'd never have known the issue exists. In short: I doubt you'll have a problem, and if you do by all accounts I've read on Google's support, it has been stellar.
Also, the 6P screen is far from terrible. It's just not as bright as the S7's display. They're both AMOLED so they'll saturate colors, but both phones give you options on color correction.

Elnrik said:
You probably will miss the display. Sammy has great displays - arguably the best in the business. I attribute this to the brightness of the screen more than anything else.
I think the pink/grey thing is definitely not a predominant issue with the majority of the 6Ps being shipped. Most of my family have 6Ps based on my recommendation, and none of them have had that issue. Neither have the ones I've seen at Best Buy, or the ones my friends and colleagues use. If it weren't for the vocal few here, I'd never have known the issue exists. In short: I doubt you'll have a problem, and if you do by all accounts I've read on Google's support, it has been stellar.
Also, the 6P screen is far from terrible. It's just not as bright as the S7's display. They're both AMOLED so they'll saturate colors, but both phones give you options on color correction.
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thanks again my friend, I really appreciate your help !
I think i might not see color tint because most of the time I use my phone on 90% manual brightness and people who are complaining about the tint issue use their phone below 50% brightness, I think that is the time when tint is more noticeable ?
Also, 1 last question, do we also have so many variants of 6P ?
coz on my edge+ there are so many variants, different for all countries, many have got MM update already but I am still waiting because Sami hasn't dropped update for my variant yet
If I buy 6P, do I need to look for some special variant to buy online so all roms are available to flash ?
or any unlocked phone from local shop will do ?
thanks again

gitin said:
thanks again my friend, I really appreciate your help !
I think i might not see color tint because most of the time I use my phone on 90% manual brightness and people who are complaining about the tint issue use their phone below 50% brightness, I think that is the time when tint is more noticeable ?
Also, 1 last question, do we also have so many variants of 6P ?
coz on my edge+ there are so many variants, different for all countries, many have got MM update already but I am still waiting because Sami hasn't dropped update for my variant yet
If I buy 6P, do I need to look for some special variant to buy online so all roms are available to flash ?
or any unlocked phone from local shop will do ?
thanks again
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You're welcome. Glad to help.
I honestly don't know. I normally adjust my display manually: Under 40%-ish while I'm browsing in bed with the lights off. (It's blinding at 80% or more in a dark room.) I've had no issue on my screen under 50%, or with adaptive brightness on. Looks fine above 50% too. Brightness settings are not something I worry about messing with, so I adjust often. Other people seem to be a bit more OCD about the whole thing. They search for the perfect all-around brightness for them, and hate messing with it once they've found that spot. Personally, I don't understand that, but... to each their own.
No, nothing special. There are only 2 variants I think? I had to google for it. I came across this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus/comments/3omi6l/nexus_6p_us_vs_international_model/ So, if you live outside North America, get the international version. As far as I know, the factory images contain everything for both variants, and I would assume most ROMs do as well.

Elnrik said:
You're welcome. Glad to help.
I honestly don't know. I normally adjust my display manually: Under 40%-ish while I'm browsing in bed with the lights off. (It's blinding at 80% or more in a dark room.) I've had no issue on my screen under 50%, or with adaptive brightness on. Looks fine above 50% too. Brightness settings are not something I worry about messing with, so I adjust often. Other people seem to be a bit more OCD about the whole thing. They search for the perfect all-around brightness for them, and hate messing with it once they've found that spot. Personally, I don't understand that, but... to each their own.
No, nothing special. There are only 2 variants I think? I had to google for it. I came across this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus/comments/3omi6l/nexus_6p_us_vs_international_model/ So, if you live outside North America, get the international version. As far as I know, the factory images contain everything for both variants, and I would assume most ROMs do as well.
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thanks thanks again,
my friend is going to buy my phone in a week, will then buy 6P and make some goodies
i have made few mods/themes for other phones i owned, i'll be happy to learn more from 6 P forum
god bless you !
will PM you if I need to ask anything before purchase, don't want to spam this thread anymore

http://www.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7-bootloader-lock-explained-you-might-not-get-aosp-after-all/
No development for the s7 on any carrier is pretty lame. T-mobile bootloaders locked.

does it still worth it?

With all those new phone's came out lately.
I'm confused, S7 looks like a beast, and he is far more beautiful than the 6P.
Although he is also much more expensive and not to mention the crappy touchwiz.
Same thing with Note 5.
The one that caught me is the HTC 10.
But also much more expensive.
Anoter area that I'm curious about is the brightness level, how's the 6P handle?
Thanks!
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HTC 10... Get the HTC ....
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The battery ? is sucks the brightness ? not the best
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badmentor.ah said:
The battery ? is sucks the brightness ? not the best
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Really bad battery life? My G4 SOT is around 2-2.5h depends on usage (gaming or not)
But this isn't bothering me because i have another battery with me.
But this isn't the case with the 6P that's why it's important for me.
Ya i thought the brightness isn't special from all what i heard, but i guess it is better that the G4, right?
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I don't use the g4 but from what I hear about it the camera is the one thing good in it.
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If you're not concerned of losing the stock android interface and monthly updates, go for either of them. Just be careful, apparently the maximum brightness on the HTC is low too.
Nexus 6P is a good device but brightness is quite subpar* ; same goes with battery life, considering the beefy battery it has got!
* all stock
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I'm not sure why anyone is complaining about battery life on this device, it performs really well for me. It mostly comes down to individual setup anyway, it's like installing a turbo on your car and then complaining that the car has terrible fuel efficiency.
As for whether it's still worth it, probably not. I certainly wouldn't be opting for Samsung though, and the HTC is nice but you'll be waiting several months for any updates. The next Nexus is only a few months away probably, I'd be waiting for that.

no, definitely go with the HTC 10. I got my 6p and damn the mic, speaks, and call quality is terrible !!!
stay away plus its way large

probiewankenobi said:
If you're not concerned of losing the stock android interface and monthly updates, go for either of them. Just be careful, apparently the maximum brightness on the HTC is low too.
Nexus 6P is a good device but brightness is quite subpar* ; same goes with battery life, considering the beefy battery it has got!
* all stock
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The only device i would give up pure android for is HTC. Sense is my second favorite if not par with stock android.
After been with HTC One M8 for a year and a half, than switching for LG G4.
I know how good HTC devices is, only problem is that here in ny country HTC ain't popular, most people's buy iPhone or Samsung and lately LG. Which cost me when i sold my M8, after bought it for 700$ and sold for only 250$ in new condition.
I guess the brightness on the Nexus 6P is higher than HTC 10 and my LG G4.
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Heisenberg said:
I'm not sure why anyone is complaining about battery life on this device, it performs really well for me. It mostly comes down to individual setup anyway, it's like installing a turbo on your car and then complaining that the car has terrible fuel efficiency.
As for whether it's still worth it, probably not. I certainly wouldn't be opting for Samsung though, and the HTC is nice but you'll be waiting several months for any updates. The next Nexus is only a few months away probably, I'd be waiting for that.
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What i like about Samsung devices
(S7 edge and note 5)
Is the amazing display and brightness.
All other thing's including software is awful, at least for me.
S7 edge is a really beauty device, but way too expensive.
If I'll buy the HTC 10 i could live with the several month's update because it has sense which is the closets one to pure android. But also there, too expensive..
What do you mean by few month's away?
I guess also when it'll come out it'll be expensive, and till than my G4 will loss another 200$.
I'll wait for more answers, What bothering me mostly on the Nexus 6P is SD810, as G4 has SD808 which is not that different..
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mr.dj26 said:
no, definitely go with the HTC 10. I got my 6p and damn the mic, speaks, and call quality is terrible !!!
stay away plus its way large
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Oh wow, that's a little surprising me. I thought it has some really good quality speakers and mic.
What do you say about brightness?
Is it really that bad in direct sun or outdoors?
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ben33891471 said:
What i like about Samsung devices
(S7 edge and note 5)
Is the amazing display and brightness.
All other thing's including software is awful, at least for me.
S7 edge is a really beauty device, but way too expensive.
If I'll buy the HTC 10 i could live with the several month's update because it has sense which is the closets one to pure android. But also there, too expensive..
What do you mean by few month's away?
I guess also when it'll come out it'll be expensive, and till than my G4 will loss another 200$.
I'll wait for more answers, What bothering me mostly on the Nexus 6P is SD810, as G4 has SD808 which is not that different..
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As far as skins go, Sense is ok. I'm I'll never use a Touchwiz device though, that's awful.
There are rumours that the new Nexus lineup will be released in American summer, but probably in October/November like usual.

Heisenberg said:
I'm not sure why anyone is complaining about battery life on this device, it performs really well for me. It mostly comes down to individual setup anyway, it's like installing a turbo on your car and then complaining that the car has terrible fuel efficiency.
As for whether it's still worth it, probably not. I certainly wouldn't be opting for Samsung though, and the HTC is nice but you'll be waiting several months for any updates. The next Nexus is only a few months away probably, I'd be waiting for that.
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You won't be waiting "several months" for any updates. The software on the 10 is similar to the A9 and is actually closer to stock than the A9 which got updates roughly 15 days after Nexus devices. Definitely not several months.
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no, definitely go with the HTC 10. I got my 6p and damn the mic, speaks, and call quality is terrible !!!
stay away plus its way large
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I am coming from the M9. The 6P blows it away in every category you mentioned. I can't even get cell reception in my basement on the M9 and the 6P has 2-3 bars. Since nobody really has the 10 other than reviewers you can't really definitely make that statement.
I will say I already miss Sense somewhat. I like having screenshot in the drop down quick settings. Where is the battery percentage? I have the system tuner version but it is useless once you get into the 50-60's percentage. Why no option to restart instead of just turning off? Gmail is terrible for exchange. I tried it again in hopes that the update this week would address some problems but it sucks. The camera app on the 10 will be much better than the 6P. HTC Mail is way better and I can't get hacked versions of HTC apps to work that is on XDA. HTC does some really good things to compliment Android without being overbearing like Touchwiz which keeps it running smooth years later, unlike Samsung. They are subtle but when you don't have them you start to notice.
That said, I was not about to pay $300 more for the 10. If it was the same price. I would have bought it. No phone is worth $1,000.

neo905 said:
You won't be waiting "several months" for any updates. The software on the 10 is similar to the A9 and is actually closer to stock than the A9 which got updates roughly 15 days after Nexus devices. Definitely not several months.
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I am coming from the M9. The 6P blows it away in every category you mentioned. I can't even get cell reception in my basement on the M9 and the 6P has 2-3 bars. Since nobody really has the 10 other than reviewers you can't really definitely make that statement.
I will say I already miss Sense somewhat. I like having screenshot in the drop down quick settings. Where is the battery percentage? I have the system tuner version but it is useless once you get into the 50-60's percentage. Why no option to restart instead of just turning off? Gmail is terrible for exchange. I tried it again in hopes that the update this week would address some problems but it sucks. The camera app on the 10 will be much better than the 6P. HTC Mail is way better and I can't get hacked versions of HTC apps to work that is on XDA. HTC does some really good things to compliment Android without being overbearing like Touchwiz which keeps it running smooth years later, unlike Samsung. They are subtle but when you don't have them you start to notice.
That said, I was not about to pay $300 more for the 10. If it was the same price. I would have bought it. No phone is worth $1,000.
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You are right, i won't buy a phone that cost more than 700$.
My HTC One M8 cost me 700$ and i enjoyed him the whole time i had him
(a year and a half).
When i moved to G4 i missed the sense as well.
But over time you get used to what ever phone you have, unless you have Samsung??
Also i wanted to ask you, as i still wait for more answers, don't wanna rely on one person.
What do you say about the brightness on the 6P? how's it's handle direct sun and outdoors visibility? And how's the camera?
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Don't get Samsung. You will course the day you bought a Samsung.
Get the HTC.
The Nexus is a sweet device fir sure.
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ben33891471 said:
You are right, i won't buy a phone that cost more than 700$.
My HTC One M8 cost me 700$ and i enjoyed him the whole time i had him
(a year and a half).
When i moved to G4 i missed the sense as well.
But over time you get used to what ever phone you have, unless you have Samsung
Also i wanted to ask you, as i still wait for more answers, don't wanna rely on one person.
What do you say about the brightness on the 6P? how's it's handle direct sun and outdoors visibility? And how's the camera?
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Coming from the M9 it is way better. I guess it all depends on your frame of reference and if you had a S6 S7 Samsung screen before. I can also see what people talk about with this display vs a LCD one on HTC. The images just are more vivid and punchy. If you like the flat look you can change that on the 6P as well. I like the saturation though for a change. The 10's screen is better than the M8 and M9 but not as good as the 6P. At least not $300 better. That's for sure.

ben33891471 said:
You are right, i won't buy a phone that cost more than 700$.
My HTC One M8 cost me 700$ and i enjoyed him the whole time i had him
(a year and a half).
When i moved to G4 i missed the sense as well.
But over time you get used to what ever phone you have, unless you have Samsung
Also i wanted to ask you, as i still wait for more answers, don't wanna rely on one person.
What do you say about the brightness on the 6P? how's it's handle direct sun and outdoors visibility? And how's the camera?
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The display used in nexus 6p is made by Samsung... I don't think brightness should be an issue... Also you could use ultra brightness mode in elementalx kernel... Regarding camera it's good.... Haven't used g4 so can't exactly compare them... Pm me your email. I will send you photos captured by 6p..
Note: sd810 doesn't support 10bit hevc hardware decoding whereas s7 exynos supports it... So sd820 may support it too... Shouldn't bother you if you don't watch 10bit videos on phone.

Samsung = Knox.
If you want to tether on an UDP (Verizon) you must have root for WiFi tether.
So if I were to buy a phone today, unless I could unlock the bootloader, the device is not on my shopping list.
So for me on Verizon, Nexus or HTC. With HTC you can at least usually pay someone for S-Off.

I have an M9 from day one last year. Really liked it but got the 6P last November because of the improved camera. Also because the monthly updates it receives.
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Also who needs removable battery now that there are recharge packs.
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Really on the fence atm as well.. The 32gb is about $650 CAD and the 64gb is about $700 CAD on Newegg.. Ive been running through reviews and comparison videos all week and I am so close to purchasing it, but the price still kind of hurts. It has everything I need, but battery life seems to vary among everyone. The camera also seems to have some issues and lag time between users. The most recent update was suppose to fix it, but some users are still experiencing slow-downs. The phone is almost 7 months old, but since its by Google, updates will always be rolling out.
Love stock android as I had the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 5, but moved away to the Asus Zenfone 2, which is already experiencing slow downs and my camera is all wonky. I would never purchase a phone over $600, but the Nexus 6P is looking amazing. Right now, I am just looking for a way to justify buying it

Is the 6P still a good buy at $370

Are there any hardware issues? For example, I considered the G5 until I found out it has GPS issues. Then the Axon 7 seemed to be my dream phone until I learned it has an over aggressive power saving app killer that results in music playback being stopped when sceen is off, that's a huge deal breaker.
So I'm wondering if the 6P has any inevitable hardware faults and also how the battery has held up after long time ownership. Thanks much in adance

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Are there any hardware issues? For example, I considered the G5 until I found out it has GPS issues. Then the Axon 7 seemed to be my dream phone until I learned it has an over aggressive power saving app killer that results in music playback being stopped when sceen is off, that's a huge deal breaker.
So I'm wondering if the 6P has any inevitable hardware faults and also how the battery has held up after long time ownership. Thanks much in adance
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I just jumped on a 64gb one for $320 including shipping and was thrilled to get it
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EvoRocker said:
Are there any hardware issues? For example, I considered the G5 until I found out it has GPS issues. Then the Axon 7 seemed to be my dream phone until I learned it has an over aggressive power saving app killer that results in music playback being stopped when sceen is off, that's a huge deal breaker.
So I'm wondering if the 6P has any inevitable hardware faults and also how the battery has held up after long time ownership. Thanks much in adance
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Hi... There are a few issues.
Check these threads..:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/nexus-6p-randomly-shutting-50-youre-t3522911
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/boot-loop-death-nexus-6p-t3533528
Also can get a bit hot during intensive tasks or game playing (thanks to snapdragon 810)
What else... I don't have anything else in mind at the moment...

EvoRocker said:
Are there any hardware issues? For example, I considered the G5 until I found out it has GPS issues. Then the Axon 7 seemed to be my dream phone until I learned it has an over aggressive power saving app killer that results in music playback being stopped when sceen is off, that's a huge deal breaker.
So I'm wondering if the 6P has any inevitable hardware faults and also how the battery has held up after long time ownership. Thanks much in adance
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Bought mine in November last year. No regrets. Love the lowlight pics and stereo speakers. Latest monthly security patches. Pixel mod. No battery issues. Not tempted by any other phone.

EvoRocker said:
Are there any hardware issues? For example, I considered the G5 until I found out it has GPS issues. Then the Axon 7 seemed to be my dream phone until I learned it has an over aggressive power saving app killer that results in music playback being stopped when sceen is off, that's a huge deal breaker.
So I'm wondering if the 6P has any inevitable hardware faults and also how the battery has held up after long time ownership. Thanks much in adance
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The only phone I can see really competing with the 6p at a price point of $400 or less is the One Plus 3t. Its like Nexus software (vanilla Android) that a dev got to and modded with all the extra goodies (customizations), has the most up to date CPU/GPU (till the S8 is released). What it's lacking in comparison to the 6P... 6P has front facing stereo speakers, QHD display (3T has 1080p) Faster updates, monthly security patches.
I personally can't give up my 6P to anything offered currently. I may consider the One Plus 4 if it has the SD835 in the fall but I think you won't do much better then the 6P at that price point.

The Nexus6p is worth the treat and especially on XDA!

Eric214 said:
The only phone I can see really competing with the 6p at a price point of $400 or less is the One Plus 3t. Its like Nexus software (vanilla Android) that a dev got to and modded with all the extra goodies (customizations), has the most up to date CPU/GPU (till the S8 is released). What it's lacking in comparison to the 6P... 6P has front facing stereo speakers, QHD display (3T has 1080p) Faster updates, monthly security patches.
I personally can't give up my 6P to anything offered currently. I may consider the One Plus 4 if it has the SD835 in the fall but I think you won't do much better then the 6P at that price point.
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Ya. 3T and axon 7 are close rivals. I thought of getting the axon 7 but a friend beat me to it. Glad I didn't. After playing with it, everything else is a downgrade except the speakers. With the latest software every month, I can't imagine going back to outdated software, even if it's only a month.

If it's new and still in box then I would say that it's definitely a solid deal. With that being said I'm sure you can find one that has been used that's still in good condition for a little under $300 depending on where you look.

EvoRocker said:
Are there any hardware issues? For example, I considered the G5 until I found out it has GPS issues. Then the Axon 7 seemed to be my dream phone until I learned it has an over aggressive power saving app killer that results in music playback being stopped when sceen is off, that's a huge deal breaker.
So I'm wondering if the 6P has any inevitable hardware faults and also how the battery has held up after long time ownership. Thanks much in adance
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Google 6P random shutdown. Or... Just look through this section it general. You'll find your answer. I won't tell you not to buy it, but..... Yeah, there's a lot of complaints.
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Google 6P random shutdown. Or... Just look through this section it general. You'll find your answer. I won't tell you not to buy it, but..... Yeah, there's a lot of complaints.
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Maybe, but that battery issue I fully believe is from ppl not knowing or understanding how to take care of their battery. Most ppl don't know when or how to charge the battery. My battery is exactly 1 year old, bought my phone mid February last year and I still have 93% of my battery capacity. Most I read are well into 60% or lower that have this battery issue. So I'm thinking it's mainly cause by ppl letting their batteries get below 15-10% regularly. Look up and read about charge cycles on battery university of you don't understand what I'm saying.

No issues whatsoever, a highly recommended phone.

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Maybe, but that battery issue I fully believe is from ppl not knowing or understanding how to take care of their battery. Most ppl don't know when or how to charge the battery. My battery is exactly 1 year old, bought my phone mid February last year and I still have 93% of my battery capacity. Most I read are well into 60% or lower that have this battery issue. So I'm thinking it's mainly cause by ppl letting their batteries get below 15-10% regularly. Look up and read about charge cycles on battery university of you don't understand what I'm saying.
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I understand what you're saying and I know about charge cycles of batteries of different types and structural integrity but I will have to disagree about it being a user error. I just sent in RMA number 6, had it for a week, battery health was 98%. I never let my devices die after a bad experience I had with the Samsung Galaxy SII. Battery died on it and it never turned back on until I got a new battery. That was years ago though.
The other reason I don't think it's a battery issue.....it's happening to brand new Pixel devices.
Don't get me wrong, I love the 6P and I think it's a good device. But this late in the game, I would say pass because of what's happening to them, and the specs of it....processor wise that is.

i got mine for 200 euro

Don't buy one that doesn't come with a full warranty --and if available an extended warranty might not be a bad deal for this particular phone. The problem is that too many people are experiencing boot looping that turns the 6P into an expensive paper weight if you don't have a warranty. The phone is great if you don't get a lemon.

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Don't buy one that doesn't come with a full warranty --and if available an extended warranty might not be a bad deal for this particular phone. The problem is that too many people are experiencing boot looping that turns the 6P into an expensive paper weight if you don't have a warranty. The phone is great if you don't get a lemon.
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i m actually getting mine in the mail with a us warrenty

Jammol said:
Google 6P random shutdown. Or... Just look through this section it general. You'll find your answer. I won't tell you not to buy it, but..... Yeah, there's a lot of complaints.
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The "battery issue" is not so common. It looks common because those with issues will likely post/complain about the issue versus those that do not have issues.
Those without any issues generally don't start threads about issues or post in threads saying "no issues" since it doesn't apply to them.
I'll also like to add that there are reports of other phones with the shut down issue, with some saying it could be software related. I could recall Franco talking about voltage drops or something along those lines in relation to cold environments.
Truth is, every phone will have their share of issues. Find the one that best suits you. Some may say it's worth it while others could disagree. I personally wouldn't spend over $250 on a cell phone.
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richii0207 said:
The "battery issue" is not so common. It looks common because those with issues will likely post/complain about the issue versus those that do not have issues.
Those without any issues generally don't start threads about issues or post in threads saying "no issues" since it doesn't apply to them.
I'll also like to add that there are reports of other phones with the shut down issue, with some saying it could be software related. I could recall Franco talking about voltage drops or something along those lines in relation to cold environments.
Truth is, every phone will have their share of issues. Find the one that best suits you. Some may say it's worth it while others could disagree. I personally wouldn't spend over $250 on a cell phone.
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Dude have you seen Reddit? I'm sorry but what's your definition of large?! Just saying. Lets not try to down play the issue. Just because everyone doesn't complain about it, doesn't mean it's not a lot of people having the issue.

I'd say no.
I love this phone and the front facing speakers, but let's be real, here. The 810, however well optimized in this phone, still isn't the greatest. Battery life is all over the place. It can be good if you use battery saving profiles, turn off a lot of functions, and can deal with stuttering. If you want buttery smooth UI, battery life is around 3-4 hours of screen time, if you're lucky.
It can get hot, too.
For $370, I'd rather get a OnePlus 3T. Yeah it doesn't have the front facing speakers or a 1440p AMOLED display. But it trumps the 6P performance wise and battery life wise.
If you could find one for maybe $300, max, then I'd say it's a decent deal. But $370 for a 2 year old phone with a flawed soc? You can do better.

Jammol said:
I understand what you're saying and I know about charge cycles of batteries of different types and structural integrity but I will have to disagree about it being a user error. I just sent in RMA number 6, had it for a week, battery health was 98%. I never let my devices die after a bad experience I had with the Samsung Galaxy SII. Battery died on it and it never turned back on until I got a new battery. That was years ago though.
The other reason I don't think it's a battery issue.....it's happening to brand new Pixel devices.
Don't get me wrong, I love the 6P and I think it's a good device. But this late in the game, I would say pass because of what's happening to them, and the specs of it....processor wise that is.
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I haven't heard of any new device having the issue, just older phones. But all said and done, I would certainly be looking at the One Plus 3T. I think if anyone is not going to wait for a phone with the SD835 in it then I'd look at the 3T. It doesn't have the front facing stereo speakers and and its only 1080p but I'd probably only get the 6P if those are important the buyer.

I got mine when it was released in Germany in November 2015. I'm very satisfied with it. No problems with this strange battery bug, everything's fine here.
Phone is running smoothly, I can't complain. I think it's a good price and you don't have to worry - you just have to keep in mind that it's a bit older phone regarding the specs. But it's still great!
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who plans on keeping there 6p for a couple more years?

Hey all figured I'd see how many people feel the way I do. I've had 4 Nexus 6ps. I am a massive phone junky and trade up all the time. Recently I traded a pixel for a OnePlus 3t and then ended up getting rid of it and getting another Nexus 6p Ive replaced the battery and I have a new charger port on the way Ill also be replacing the speakers at some point to. I forgot how much I love the 6p I am planning on keeping this phone through Android 9 via custom rooms obiously and I was curious who is with me! I trully like the 6p better then the pixel and think that this phone with the new battery and port should last a long while! Many people hate the 810 chip however I've never had an issue with it on any of the phones I've owned with the chip.

Me bro screens large and beautiful. Also it's still a good speed. ?

Me too. It's a nice smartphone with a good screen, a good battery life and all apps work very well and fast.

I feel like I'm on the Titanic and loving it and everyone else is jumping off getting rescued and I'm still sitting at the bar drinking the highest quality wine. I know my time is up soon but I'm loving every minute until that happens.

Till death do us part.

Lol. I'm surprised this thread hasn't been flamed yet. A lot of unhappy owners floating around.
I love this phone to bits. A recognized contributor friend just picked up a second hand unit last week...ckpv5, king of sense launcher port (rooted version)in m8 forum. No scratches or dents and so far a good battery.
My 6p takes everything I throw at it. Viper, Dolby Oreo, Pixel 2 launcher, sense 9 launcher, pixel camera MOD, xposed Oreo, ex kernel color profiles, high brightness mode, google lens in assistant...
Having the time of my life. But without and thanks to our amazing devs, the 6p will not be attractive to the average consumer.

I just got a nexus 6p to replace my moto z and plan on keeping it for a year or 2. I love the screen, the front speakers and especially the camera. This is the best camera I've had on a phone. I also love the fact that it's very developer friendly.
The battery is crap though. According to accubattery it's down to 62% health. I'll be replacing that myself something soon.

Hey there. I was the proud owner of a Xiaomi MI5, that went trough a lot, 3 screen replacement and 2 batteries, and... It was time to put it to rest, but Xiaomi have proven to be great, have no complaint whatsoever. So, i decided to give a shot to a 6P, with 1 year of use, but as good as new... So far so good, great specs, beautiful phone, so...lets see how it goes.

Bought it for 120 usd and I'll keep it as long as I can. Coming from a boring S7.

No other smart phone has the power of this hardware, + Screen size. I did research for 2 months on phones and this was the only one compairable. (buying it for 350$) no other phone matches that price + specs. None. Pixel has less screen size... less processor... and cost more.. So idk how its a 'better' phone??? I looked for unlocked HTC's droids and other brands. I'm a "phablet" guy. and no one has this power for this screen size... ill never go with a smaller phone.
I'd RATHER LOSE HARDWARE Vs SCREEN SIZE but thats just me

I had to keep it until my phone died maybe, had to use money to replace my PC, because it getting old.
Pixel first gen had to many issue, so I rather avoid it, Pixel 2/XL 2 is ridiculous expensive, I wait till the price go down.

burningcreation said:
I feel like I'm on the Titanic and loving it and everyone else is jumping off getting rescued and I'm still sitting at the bar drinking the highest quality wine. I know my time is up soon but I'm loving every minute until that happens.
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This is exactly what I'm doing. Every new phone I look at has some downside that I'm not looking forward to. Pixel 2 has no headphone jack, OP5T has **** speakers, LG and Samsung phones have bloat and ****ty skins. This phone is perfect for me, I just get the feeling that my days with it are numbered. For now, though, it's awesome.

I almost got a pixel 2 but then I replaced the battery in my 6p instead. I'll definitely hold onto it at least until the pixel 3 phones come out.

Definitely will be keeping mine till it doesn't work anymore. I haven't change any hardware on mine including the battery though its not what it used to be but still I love my 6p till death lol. It's still fast and still works as well as I would hope for. I admit the devs are making me love it this long. I'm using ABC btw.

Been upset with battery life since Oreo upgrade. Going to flash official 7.1.2 and use it until it dies. I love my Nexus 6P!!

as long as it does not die on me i plan to keep it for a couple more years for sure.
i've had my 6p for about just a year now.
i love everything about the phone, had no issues for now thankfully.
no battery issues and no bootloop thingie, and i read often that there are users who owned the phone since launch and had zero issues with it up till now , so i hope it will turn out the same for me, and if it does then i will be good to go for a couple more years with my beloved 6p.
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gfighter said:
Been upset with battery life since Oreo upgrade. Going to flash official 7.1.2 and use it until it dies. I love my Nexus 6P!!
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maybe try ABC from storm and his superuber kernel.
i usually get good battery life on ABC Oreo.
same as on N.
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tropical cactus said:
Lol. I'm surprised this thread hasn't been flamed yet. A lot of unhappy owners floating around.
I love this phone to bits. A recognized contributor friend just picked up a second hand unit last week...ckpv5, king of sense launcher port (rooted version)in m8 forum. No scratches or dents and so far a good battery.
My 6p takes everything I throw at it. Viper, Dolby Oreo, Pixel 2 launcher, sense 9 launcher, pixel camera MOD, xposed Oreo, ex kernel color profiles, high brightness mode, google lens in assistant...
Having the time of my life. But without and thanks to our amazing devs, the 6p will not be attractive to the average consumer.
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defintely agreeing on the last part ,without our android devs every phone out there would become boring.
btw. Dolby oreo ? i am interested in that, is it any good? i usually use v4a.

I've replaced the battery and the daughterboard/USB port. now I wish I could make it a QC 821 or a QC 835...

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maybe try ABC from storm and his superuber kernel.
i usually get good battery life on ABC Oreo.
same as on N.
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I'll give it a go, but I don't mind stock ROMs. I don't have any other issues and have had it since launch. The battery drain is annoying. EDIT: Can you send me a link to the ROM pls? Tried a search... no luck. Thx!
Actually, I remember Apple being investigated in Germany, or somewhere, for new iOS version making older handsets slow to force users to upgrade handsets. I suspect this maybe the same with my beloved Nexus 6P; that would make me angry.

@leondestiny
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74880570&postcount=31697

Changed the battery exactly yesterday!
This phone is amazing! I also disabled the 4 BIG core due to the bootloop problem, but hey! My phone runs butterly smooth and cool! It's cooler then before and lasts longer without any noticeable performance drop The bootloop was a win-win trade for me xD