I just got my prime edition and when I was setting it up I enabled the developer options from the settings. And there is a option for "OEM unlocking" and the description is "Allow the bootloader to be unlocked". Has anybody seen this before? And could it actually allow the device to be rooted? I'll try exploring this more tomorrow but I was wondering if anybody has tried this before I get my hopes up.
There have been phones with the OEM Unlocking option before which can't really be unlocked. This option doesn't mean the device can be unlocked unfortunately.
It cannot be unlocked. I ended up selling my Prime G4 Play the day after I got it and buying the regular flavored edition instead.
MaanasDwivedi said:
There have been phones with the OEM Unlocking option before which can't really be unlocked. This option doesn't mean the device can be unlocked unfortunately.
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So now I'm curious, what does that option do? Does it toggle the lock/unlock on phones that can unlock the bootloader and just do nothing when it can't be unlocked (as in our case)? Or does it do something else entirely?
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So now I'm curious, what does that option do? Does it toggle the lock/unlock on phones that can unlock the bootloader and just do nothing when it can't be unlocked (as in our case)? Or does it do something else entirely?
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Not entirely sure about this, but I think in non unlockable devices there is something else that is done to prevent unlocking. The option does what it does on other phones, but what it does is not enough to unlock the phone in this case. If they could make the option useless they might as well remove it. So, I think there are more governing factors besides this option which tell if the device can be unlocked or not.
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So I went into bootloader (hold down trackball while starting up phone) to explore the options in nexus bootloader. One option that caught my eye was SIMLOCK. Needless to say I stayed far away and made sure to not even highlight that option (lol).
Why would the put an option to LOCK your phone?? (im assuming once you SIMLOCK you cant unlock so easily, otherwise it would defeat the purpose of a simlock)
Not sure about the simlock on the bootloader, but the app "WaveSecure" offers a similar function if you're interested in using it without fear of messing anything up. With their simlock it basically locks the phone down with an error screen if someone replaces your sim. Pretty nice security app.
The option does nothing without correct SIM emulator.
It's a standard option on HTC engineering bootloaders.
Who already got permanant unlocked guys, Can you let me know "Device Unlock" app icon dispaying on the App drawer after Factory reset.
I known that Device unlock icon should be gone(Exactly Disabled in App manager) and first permanent unlocked success, Device unlock app gone(As Disabled). Do factory reset then still Device unlock app gone(Disabled) in the App drawer? If keep permanent unlock and run device unlock app, what kind of message dispaying in the Device unlock app? Can you capture and share to here?
Also have you ever been network relocked symptom? I had Tmobole note5 and it suddenly network relocked. Reason is mystery. One day I just eject the sim then insert the sim. Thats it.
Who same experinced guys, how can you resolve this relock problem?
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Who already got permanant unlocked guys, Can you let me know "Device Unlock" app icon dispaying on the App drawer after Factory reset.
I known that Device unlock icon should be gone(Exactly Disabled in App manager) and first permanent unlocked success, Device unlock app gone(As Disabled). Do factory reset then still Device unlock app gone(Disabled) in the App drawer? If keep permanent unlock and run device unlock app, what kind of message dispaying in the Device unlock app? Can you capture and share to here?
Also have you ever been network relocked symptom? I had Tmobole note5 and it suddenly network relocked. Reason is mystery. One day I just eject the sim then insert the sim. Thats it.
Who same experinced guys, how can you resolve this relock problem?
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Did you contact T-Mobile about this issue?
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Did you contact T-Mobile about this issue?
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Yes, Actually i asked at least 10 times or over about this re-lock problem.
But no luck. They said that network relocked meaning is just network locking problem and this Note5 IMEI indicate outstanding balance or financing.
T-mobile REP. said device contract & financing problem only resolve account owner. But this account owner(ebay seller) cant't reach now. Because I bought this item one year ago.
Yeah, I was using this T-mobile Note5 unlocked status about one year. But after one year and one day, it suddenly relocked. Still i can't believe why my Note5 re-locked.
The important thing is previous owner(ebay seller) now can't reach out. May he is busy or he no longer login to ebay.
At least i don't have to request T-mobile unlock officially. Because i am not real owner of this Note5 device.
So i found 3rd party unlock service, but recently t-mobile device unlock app service price is increased to $130. Its too high cost for unlocking.
I am very confusing how can i resolve this network relock problem.
Think of it, when i first reviced this unlocked T-mobile note5 from ebay buyer, Device unlock app exists on app drawer.
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So, when i executed the Device unlock app, message indicate as below.
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Unlock failed
Unlock approved : Mobile device is permanently unlocked.
I think above unlock fail message is wrong and above message keep since network relocked.
So.. Have you tried a different carrier sim on it to confirm if it's locked or not? If you're using only T-Mobile, why are you worried about device unlock app?
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So.. Have you tried a different carrier sim on it to confirm if it's locked or not? If you're using only T-Mobile, why are you worried about device unlock app?
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Sure, Actually I am living at South Korea, So everytime korean SIM insert into this device and still locked as attached screenshot.
I hope to verify this "Device unlock" app's concept for verify my Note5 relock problem.
As I already said my Note5 device unlock app keep displaying at App drawer since permanent unlocked.
I think that is incorrect symptom and hope to know this T-mobile unlock concept
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https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-14011
If you completed a Permanent Unlock, the applications disappear from the device app list.
verified or changed on Galaxy S7 edge(G935T) model.
Really curious point is When permanent unlocked, Device unlock app disappear /disabled from App drawer even though after Factory reset.
I'm not sure if it was factory unlocked by T-Mobile or if it was unlocked by 3rd party and sold on ebay.. my opinion is that several people have unlocked by T-Mobile and they have installed G935U Rom so it doesn't lock itself.. your best bet might be T-Mobile support with details of your usage or 3rd party unlock..
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I'm not sure if it was factory unlocked by T-Mobile or if it was unlocked by 3rd party and sold on ebay.. my opinion is that several people have unlocked by T-Mobile and they have installed G935U Rom so it doesn't lock itself.. your best bet might be T-Mobile support with details of your usage or 3rd party unlock..
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Thanks your detail explanation and good advice.
Regarding official T-mobile response, they said as follows.
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That being said, it's definitely important to know that if it's a T-Mobile Note 5 and you try to use a different carrier's SIM card in it, it may not work unless the device is SIM unlocked to accept service from another carrier. Even more important to note is that the device will ALWAYS be tied to the original owner. This means even if it has a clean IMEI now, if something happens down the road (it's not fully paid off yet, and the original owner stops making payments on it, or if they report it as lost/stolen to insurance, or if they simply reach out to us and request to block the IMEI), this can change that status at any time. There is no way to prevent this, and if it does happen, the only way to get it unblocked is for the original owner to reach out to take care of whatever the issue is. Does this all make sense? I want to be sure, so you don't run into an issue where you buy a phone that you someday cannot use! Let me know what questions you have!
In short, T-mobile device always tied to original user if device have finaning, only original user can resolve this problem, not second buyer like me(ebay buyer)
Yeah, I think remain key is only 3rd party unlock solution. But 3rd party unlock solution price is now too expensive. About $130
Hope to 3rd party unlock price go down nearby $50.
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My main question is still not resolve. Can you let me know following my question if you have permanent unlocked G935T model?
Can you let me know "Device Unlock" app icon dispaying on the App drawer after Factory reset.
I known that Device unlock icon should be gone(Exactly Disabled in App manager) and first permanent unlocked success, Device unlock app gone(As Disabled). Do factory reset then still Device unlock app gone(Disabled) in the App drawer? After factory reset, If keep permanent unlock and run device unlock app, what kind of message displaying in the Device unlock app? Can you capture and share to here?
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Thanks your detail explanation and good advice.
Regarding official T-mobile response, they said as follows.
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That being said, it's definitely important to know that if it's a T-Mobile Note 5 and you try to use a different carrier's SIM card in it, it may not work unless the device is SIM unlocked to accept service from another carrier. Even more important to note is that the device will ALWAYS be tied to the original owner. This means even if it has a clean IMEI now, if something happens down the road (it's not fully paid off yet, and the original owner stops making payments on it, or if they report it as lost/stolen to insurance, or if they simply reach out to us and request to block the IMEI), this can change that status at any time. There is no way to prevent this, and if it does happen, the only way to get it unblocked is for the original owner to reach out to take care of whatever the issue is. Does this all make sense? I want to be sure, so you don't run into an issue where you buy a phone that you someday cannot use! Let me know what questions you have!
In short, T-mobile device always tied to original user if device have finaning, only original user can resolve this problem, not second buyer like me(ebay buyer)
Yeah, I think remain key is only 3rd party unlock solution. But 3rd party unlock solution price is now too expensive. About $130
Hope to 3rd party unlock price go down nearby $50.
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My main question is still not resolve. Can you let me know following my question if you have permanent unlocked G935T model?
Can you let me know "Device Unlock" app icon dispaying on the App drawer after Factory reset.
I known that Device unlock icon should be gone(Exactly Disabled in App manager) and first permanent unlocked success, Device unlock app gone(As Disabled). Do factory reset then still Device unlock app gone(Disabled) in the App drawer? After factory reset, If keep permanent unlock and run device unlock app, what kind of message displaying in the Device unlock app? Can you capture and share to here?
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You checked if your imei is blacklisted?
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You checked if your imei is blacklisted?
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Yeah, At least not blacklisted.
Yesterday I found another solution and resolved this problem.
My conclusion is it's double fault both Samsung and T-Mobile. It meaning first unlock not processed perfectly and it would have been cause relock problem.
Detail things of this provlem will update soon with timeline and evidences.
My GS7 recently re-locked as well after trying the G930U ROM. It was unlocked via the app after 40 days of service, and worked fine on AT&T for a little while. I recently went back to the G930T ROM and the device unlock app showed back up. It now throws the same error - "Unlock Failed: Mobile Device is Permanently Unlocked". Device is not blacklisted, and I no longer have an AT&T sim to try.
Does anyone know why the OEM unlocking option in the Developer Options is greyed out? I contacted T-Mobile and they will give me an unlock code within the next 48 hours. However, I cannot turn on the OEM unlocking option. It's currently off. Help, please.
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Does anyone know why the OEM unlocking option in the Developer Options is greyed out? I contacted T-Mobile and they will give me an unlock code within the next 48 hours. However, I cannot turn on the OEM unlocking option. It's currently off. Help, please.
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Have you not been paying attention?
The T-Mobile version is BL locked until paid off.
Once paid off the IMEID must be provided via a form to get an unlock code.
Do you own it the phone or you're financing?
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Does anyone know why the OEM unlocking option in the Developer Options is greyed out? I contacted T-Mobile and they will give me an unlock code within the next 48 hours. However, I cannot turn on the OEM unlocking option. It's currently off. Help, please.
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Good, after you get the unlock code and unlock the phone the option will be un-grayed. Also, if you haven't got the code yet, just try the unlock app, it's likely that'll work.
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Good, after you get the unlock code and unlock the phone the option will be un-grayed. Also, if you haven't got the code yet, just try the unlock app, it's likely that'll work.
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There is no SIM Unlock code to get on T-Mobile phones,you're either eligible/approved to get the phone SIM Unlocked or not.
When you select Permanent Unlock,it will unlock,reboot the phone,the Device Unlock app disappears & that's it.
Then,if you wish,you're free to OEM unlock/get the token from OnePlus,etc.............
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There is no SIM Unlock code to get on T-Mobile phones,you're either eligible/approved to get the phone SIM Unlocked or not.
When you select Permanent Unlock,it will unlock,reboot the phone,the Device Unlock app disappears & that's it.
Then,if you wish,you're free to OEM unlock/get the token from OnePlus,etc.............
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Yeah that's what I meant, some other people mentioned that TMobile told them the same thing as op but they had to just go to that app and it worked.
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Yeah that's what I meant, some other people mentioned that TMobile told them the same thing as op but they had to just go to that app and it worked.
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Exactly,just wanted to emphasize,since there's still some that "didn't get the memo" & keep asking about it/checking their e-mails for something that'll never arrive/etc........
That's why I don't mess with chats/Twitter/etc...... a phone call to your dedicated Team Of Experts during normal working hours will get accurate information vs the off-hours overseas non-T-Mobile employee support.
It's obvious they're reading scripts & sorely outdated ones at that.
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Exactly,just wanted to emphasize,since there's still some that "didn't get the memo" & keep asking about it/checking their e-mails for something that'll never arrive/etc........
That's why I don't mess with chats/Twitter/etc...... a phone call to your dedicated Team Of Experts during normal working hours will get accurate information vs the off-hours overseas non-T-Mobile employee support.
It's obvious they're reading scripts & sorely outdated ones at that.
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Yup, just wish we didn't need an unlock bin. Locking down oem option is already enough.
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Yup, just wish we didn't need an unlock bin. Locking down oem option is already enough.
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I'm gonna give it a go in a month or so (SIM Unlock > B/L Unlock),the OP6T is a fairly clean & functional phone,but yeah,I couldn't agree more. :good:
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I'm gonna give it a go in a month or so (SIM Unlock > B/L Unlock),the OP6T is a fairly clean & functional phone,but yeah,I couldn't agree more. :good:
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You should apply for the bin now so you don't have to wait later.
Please continue the discussion here: How I unlocked my TMobile OnePlus 6T
Thank you.
I called T-mobile to request a temp unlock because I'm going to Singapore (here now). They of course approved it and instructed me to use the unlock app, temp unlock, when it's getting closer to departure day since it's a 30 day unlock. So right before leaving, I decided for the fun of it to press permanent unlock and bam it unlocks it and the app disappears. Am I permanently unlocked? I'm tempted to mess around with this thing... bootloader unlocked first of course.
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I called T-mobile to request a temp unlock because I'm going to Singapore (here now). They of course approved it and instructed me to use the unlock app, temp unlock, when it's getting closer to departure day since it's a 30 day unlock. So right before leaving, I decided for the fun of it to press permanent unlock and bam it unlocks it and the app disappears. Am I permanently unlocked? I'm tempted to mess around with this thing... bootloader unlocked first of course.
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The standard process is that the unlock app gets disabled and no longer works after a permanent unlock. The best option would be to check developer options and see if OEM unlock is grayed out. If it isn't, then you are one lucky person and are permanently unlocked.
Yeah OEM Unlock is not greyed out!
Yeah this has been a thing, people have requested temps and hit permanent unlock, which basically unlocks it permanently.
I was planning on buying a brand new Pixel (the first one, not 2, 3, C, XL, etc...) from ebay and loading Lineage OS on it. There were a few things I wasn't sure about though. Do I install Lineage OS before or after activating the phone with the carrier or does it not matter? Also, if I have to activate first is there anything Verizon could/would do that might prevent me from installing this after it's activated?
I don't currently have a smartphone or know much about them but I get the impression Verizon doesn't like people doing things like this. The setup process seems straighforward enough but since I haven't seen anything address the questions above I worry I may wind up wasting money if I don't find out for sure first. Any input would definitely be appreciated! Sorry if these questions are redundant, I've spent a bit of time these past few days looking into setting this up and haven't seen anything that says one way or the other.
You're going to need to lookup a guide for unlocking the Verizon Pixel bootloader if a Verizon SIM has ever been inserted into the device. You don't have to worry about carrier locking however. A carrier lock and a locked bootloader are not the same thing.
What many online guides don'tmention (at least last I checked) is that you should actually factory reset the device twice without a Verizon SIM, then after doing so, you must connect to an internet-connected WiFi source, enable USB debugging, go to developer options, back out of developer options, and then wait 3-5 minutes and then you can go back into developer options and toggle OEM unlocking (so you can actually unlock your bootloader and load a custom ROM.)
The alternative, if there's never even been a Verizon SIM in the phone, is that you can just connect to WiFi and enable OEM unlocking. The bootloader doesn't actually semi-permanently lock until a SIM has been inserted.
Pixels are factory unlocked even when you buy them from Verizon, you can use them on any network without even having to fully pay off the phone. The SIM being read by the motherboard will lock the bootloader, but under no circumstances will a Pixel ever be carrier locked.
Lineage runs great on my first gen Pixel XL (originally purchased from Verizon), so well I actually have decided to sell my Galaxy Note 9 because it feel sluggish by comparison.
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You're going to need to lookup a guide for unlocking the Verizon Pixel bootloader if a Verizon SIM has ever been inserted into the device. You don't have to worry about carrier locking however. A carrier lock and a locked bootloader are not the same thing.
What many online guides don'tmention (at least last I checked) is that you should actually factory reset the device twice without a Verizon SIM, then after doing so, you must connect to an internet-connected WiFi source, enable USB debugging, go to developer options, back out of developer options, and then wait 3-5 minutes and then you can go back into developer options and toggle OEM unlocking (so you can actually unlock your bootloader and load a custom ROM.)
The alternative, if there's never even been a Verizon SIM in the phone, is that you can just connect to WiFi and enable OEM unlocking. The bootloader doesn't actually semi-permanently lock until a SIM has been inserted.
Pixels are factory unlocked even when you buy them from Verizon, you can use them on any network without even having to fully pay off the phone. The SIM being read by the motherboard will lock the bootloader, but under no circumstances will a Pixel ever be carrier locked.
Lineage runs great on my first gen Pixel XL (originally purchased from Verizon), so well I actually have decided to sell my Galaxy Note 9 because it feel sluggish by comparison.
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Thanks for the reply! The phone I pick up should be brand new so no worries about a SIM having already been in it. Based on what you say about the bootloader locking when the SIM is inserted it sounds like installing Lineage OS before activating the phone and putting the SIM in is the way to go so that’s what I’ll do.
Also, glad to hear this performs so well compared to your newer phone!